Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20190903

MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews September 3, 2019

This according to the National Hurricane center. For the very latest, lets turn to nbc meteorologist bill karins. We finally have a storm on the move. After days of sitting over the alabaman island. 6 miles per hour. Still slow by hurricane standards, but now its heading for the carolina coastline. Will it make that direct landfall . Its still a direct possibility. We do not think it will get much weaker from here on out. It did go from a category 5 to a 2. Even if it makes landfall as a strong category two, we would have significant problems in areas of the carolinas. Would it look like grand alabama island or great abaco . No. Still, maybe a week or two without power. Storm surge issues, wind, trees. Raking the florida coast. Its about 80 miles off the coast. And thats all thats really protected areas of east coast of florida. Yes, we still have some storm surge concerns, but were not thinking were going have any direct hurricane impact. That path is safely off the coast for the next 24 hours. Here is the key time on thursday. As it begins to go northward, when is it going to make that turn . Is it going to go into charleston or will it make the turn, missing it . The same thing goes for myrtle beach. Or it may parallel or rake the coast from wilmington, atlantic beach, morehead city, all the way through the pimlico sounds. Thats a possibility. 105mileperhour winds to 90mileperhour winds is nothing to sneeze at. And again, it will cause a lot of issues. As far as impacts go in florida, were still concerned with the high tide, especially tomorrow afternoon. Areas around jacksonville, duval county and st. Johns river. As we head into georgia, same thing. Near the brunswick area, the inlet area, some storm surge problems. Not really concerned too much with the amount of rain and wind. But once we get to the carolinas, if we get to the eye, whats left of it, the center of the storm over land, thats when quo start to have problems with the winds causing issues, the storm surge, and heavy rain and inland flooding. And the same goes for area theres of north carolina. So well watch this continually over the next day or two, and well have to wait and see where it makes final destination there in north carolina. Okay, bill karins, thank you for that. I know youre going to keep monitoring it. We will check back later in the program. And meanwhile, a political storm is brewing over in ireland where Vice President mike pence is spending the last few days of the european trip. The Vice President had two days of meetings in dublin. Instead of staying in the capital city, though, pence opted to stay at the Trump International golf links in doan doonbeg, ireland, about 175 miles from dublin. President trump and members of his administration have been accused of funneling taxpayerow in the u. S. And abroad. Last week, President Trump hos next g7 summit. Pences chief of staff told reporters that it was President Trump who made the, quote, suggestion to stay at the doonbeg resort. Pence himself defended to stay at the trump property. Take a look. If you have a chance to get to doonbeg, youll find its a fairly small place, and the opportunity to stay at Trump National in doonbeg to accommodate the unique footprint that comes with our security detail and other personnel made it logical. We checked it with the state department. They approved us staying there. Last year, propublica, a nonprofit news organization, found that during the Trump Administration, roughly 16 million in taxpayer money has been spend at trumpowned properties. According to an nbc news account, President Trump has spent almost 300 days at trump properties. President trump remains the sole beneficiary of his businesses, and he receives updates from his sons who manage the organization on his behalf. For more im joined by jonathan swan, Axios National political reporter. Neera hayk, and michael steele, former rnc chairman. Thanks to all of us for being with us. Jonathan, i guess take us inside the administration on how Something Like this works or might work. We have the reporting there that the president suggested to mike pence that he stay at a trump property. What does that mean in an Administration Like this . And whats the consequence . Is there a consequence somebody would face if they dont follow the suggestion . Well, my reporting is that it isnt any more complicated than what was described by mike pences chief of staff sorry, chief of staff, mark short. Trump often does things like this when he says you should my property is the best you should stay there. I think whats really important is to put it in the much larger context is that trumps presidency has been the worlds greatest infomercial for trump properties. Its not just the money that you just referenced in terms of taxpayer dollars of housing, secret service and others at the properties. Its putting it on the world stage. The name idea of maralago prepresidency versus now, i would love to see a comparison of that. He goes to his properties. He makes his properties household names. And to discuss holding the g7 at doral in miami next year, this just this is probably the smallest example ive seen of what is a much, much larger trend in the trump presidency. So michael, it sounds like he puts this in almost personal terms to in this case, mike pence, why wouldnt you stay here . Youd be personally insulting me if you didnt choose to stay here. What do you think would happen if mike pence didnt end up choosing the stay there . Oh, he would probably get a nasty tweet somewhere along the lines of gee, mike, you could have at least stayed at my place in ireland, you know. I appreciate the Vice President doing his best to sort of clean this up. But you mean to tell me no American Administration has ever gone to ireland and their footprint weve always gone 140 miles away from the central event that were there for . Of course not. Its crazy. But what else was the Vice President going to do . I mean i think his chief of staff put it best. Yeah, the president requested we stay at his place. Guess where we stayed . At his place. Now here is the rub, steve. We can talk about this, but what are the consequences with respect to the emoluments close and the way this president has marketed, branded and financially benefitted from being president with his various properties and other associations. The republicans in the house and senate arent going to do squat. The democrats are largely hopeless and helpless in doing anything because they dont have the power besides calling a meeting. So the president will continue to do this. And there is more spending to come, guaranteed. Neera, you know how the state department works. Mike pence makes the point the state department did approve this arrangement. Logistically, behind the scenes, what goes into a determination like that when it comes to a trip like this . Yeah, there is certainly a calculation that goes on the back end for any average worker, average employee. Clearly the Vice President and president are able to make exceptions for themsely similar suggestion which is essentially you to make this work. Under normal circumstances, i would have had to show where we were going, look at something close to the facility, and if i wanted to be reimbursed or have it done on the work dime, it would have to be close, not three hours away that required on top of the distance a military helicopter for transportation. So the expenses here are above and beyond what would be in the normal line of duty for not just any civil servant, but anybody in a business capacity who is traveling on a work dime. Meanwhile, trumps decision to play golf this weekend as Hurricane Dorian approached raised some eyebrows, not just at home, but also abroad. Last week trump said he was cancelling a trip to poland in order to monitor the hurricane. On monday, london sadiq khan told politico he is clearly busy dealing with the hurricane out on the golf course. President trump responded tweeting this, the incompetent mayor of london sadiq khan was bothered that i played a very fast round of golf yesterday. Many polls travel for hours. President obama would fly to hawaii. He is a terrible mayor who should stay out of our business. Throughout the 2016 campaign, candidate trump frequently criticized president obamas golf outs. Take a look. We have a president who doesnt fight. He goes out and plays golf all the time. He doesnt want to work too hard. He wants to go play golf. He plays more golf than the guys on the pga tour play. Golf, golf, golf, golf. More, more. Learning how to chip, learning how to hit the drive, learning how to putt, oh, i want more. If i win, there wont be time to go golfing all the time. But im not going to be playing much golf, believe me. If i win this, im not going to be playing much golf. Im not going to play much golf, because there is a lot of work to do. What am i going to do . Play a round of golf . Its boring. Michael steele, i guess thats said, donald trump, barack obama, go back a long line of president s who have played golf for considerable amounts of time during their presidency. Sure. Its not new. There are all sorts of defensible justifications for it. But there is the fact that donald trump made this a major indictment of his predecessor. Yeah. And heres the rub. The reality of it is youre right, steve. President s find a way to get away from it all, to take some time for themselves, to sort of relax. And, yeah, you can make political hay from time to time about the president being on the golf course. But i think for this president to look back at his predecessor and to berate him the way he did then and to even pretend as if now what hes doing is not out of line is a little bit well, its trump. So you kind of take it for what it is. The fact of the matter is donald trump likes to play golf. And the last clip of him saying its boring, no, its not for him. Its how he spends a lot of his time. Just like his executive time which takes up 3 4 of the morning is about watching television and tweeting. Its not about doing executive business. So we are now folks are getting a broader picture of where this president and this presidency is, as we go into this next political cycle. And the American People are going to have to ask themselves some really deep and hard questions about how this countrys being governed at this hour. And jonathan swan, that back and forth too with sadiq khan with the mayor of london, thats also not something new. This president and khan have gone after each other back and forth a number of times now. The context there i guess is interesting there was big news today out of britain just in terms of what happened in parliament with Boris Johnson and his plan on brexit. But there are deep divisions in britain. It seems the eagerness you can talk about Donald Trumps eagerness to go after sadiq khan to play to his base here. But the eagerness of khan to engage with this president tells you about the political divide a bit in england and how at least a good chunk of that country doesnt like donald trump and is looking for somebody to speak out against him. I remember last year i traveled with President Trump to london when he met with theresa may. That was the same trip that he had that famous press conference with Vladimir Putin in helsinki. I mean, london, london proper was filled with protesters against the president , and look, it benefits both of their political constituencies to sadiq khans base and President Trumps base when they take shots at each other. Thing is part 400 of their ongoing feud which has been going on for sort of probably the best part of his presidency. President trump on that trip i remember wanted to elevate the idea that sadiq khans london is this crime ridden hell hole and sadiq khan had a great time taking shots back at him. What im watching with that relationship is its actually quite similar to President Trump has a personal connection to Boris Johnson in the same way that he has a personal affinity and chemistry with Benjamin Netanyahu in israel. Both of them are very vulnerable politicians, and President Trump wants them to succeed and get into power. Im interested. Im watching very closely what bones, if any he throws to each of them that might help them politically. With Boris Johnson, its very much in the realm of trade and hyping up the potential of a u. S. uk trade deal to mitigate all the downside economic consequences of brexit. All right. Jonathan swan, michael steal, nayyera haq, thank you all for being with us. Coming up, House Democrats plan to hold public hearings on President Trumps alleged role in hush money payments two two women. What effect if any will this have on the push for impeachment . 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Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee are planning to refocus their investigations of the white house on the 2016 scheme to silence two women alleging affairs with the president. The Washington Post was first to report that the committee, quote, is preparing to hold hearings and call witnesses involved in hush money payment to explayboy model Karen Mcdougal and adult film star Stormy Daniels as soon as october. Those payments were coordinated by former trump lawyer Michael Cohen who is currently serving three years in prison for breaking Campaign Finance laws, among other accusations. Prosecutors in cohens case detailed the president s alleged role in this scheme, but closed their investigation last month with no additional charges. Now according to the post, quote, the new congressional inquiry will reopen questions about the extent of trumps involvement in the episode and whether he would have been charged if not for Justice Department opinions that a sitting president cannot be indicted. The new line of inquiry will no doubt fuel more debate about impeachment, a move thats now favored by 134 democrats in the house. Joining me now is democratic congresswoman mary gay scanlon of pennsylvania, thank you for joining us. Let me ask you this. This was investigated in the Southern District of new york. The case was closed without any further action. What can you learn here . What do you hope to learn here that we dont already know . Well, what we know already is that Michael Cohen is serving jail time for Campaign Finance violations involving paying money in violation of Campaign Finance laws to affect the election of his then boss, donald trump. We know that the Southern District investigated it. We know that the d. A. In manhattan is still investigating it, and just recently, just at the beginning of august, issued some more subpoenas. So there are active facts there that should be looked into. I think it would be malpractice of the judiciary not to look into is the t president authorized payments to anybody to try to impact his election. I guess thats my question, because ive seen some of my colleagues. One of your colleagues quoted already satisfied that the evidence is there that shows the president was a coconspirator. Is that your view or not . There may be evidence there, but our committee hasnt seen it. Congress hasnt seen it there was evidence presented to the grand jury. The u. S. Attorney up there refers to someone who can only be the president as individual number 1 as having authorized payments in violation of Campaign Finance laws. So its kind of like you can charge someone based upon what youve been told, but you need to see the evidence before you go to tri

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