Hours, show that the dems are having aft shocks from the last president ial election. The latest sign of a partys infrastructures from 2016 have gotten close to healed starting with those comments on Hillary Clinton, defeating Bernie Sanders tand her comments in a separate interview where she said nobody liked senator sanders. Clinton has clarified and said she will vote for whoever the nominee. Take a look at what happened in an event outside des moines. You guys remember last week when someone by the name of Hillary Clinton said that nobody, were not going to boo. Were classy here. Were classy. Ill boo. Boo. You all know i cant be quiet, no, were going to boo. Thats all right. The haters will shut up on monday when we win. There we go. Yikes, this morning, talib walked back her comment in a tweet and said quote, in this instance, i allowed my disappointment with secretary clintons latest comments about senator sanders, our movement deserve better. Clinton spokesman nick merrill issued this statement. I cant imagine this kind of behavior is something that iowans want to see from candidates and their surrogates. I dont imagine the vast majority of voters in congresswoman talibs district which secretary clinton won by over 60 points in 2016 want to see this either. Joining me is britney cunningham, cofounder of campaign soo campaign zero. Erin haynes editor at large, the 19th, and sherry mortise, the president of iowa cc one action. Thank you all for being here. I have to go to you first, charlie, as sort of a knneutral party here. It does feel like we are living in groundhog day, and the 2016 primaries will never end. It really is time for the 2016 election to be over. This is reminding me of the star trek episode with Frank Gorshen where one guy was white on one side and black opt other, and the other guy was reversed. Thats what this is. Everybody let it go, seriously. And the fact that they cant let it go that this rift in the party is still so raw for both Hillary Clinton supporters and obviously the candidate, and for Bernie Sanders supporters particularly he doesnt talk about it as much. It shows that the democrats are not taking a single party into the 2020 election. Theyre taking basically two parties, which are still at war. This is, you know, this is worse than 2008. Well, i mean, i think what you are seeing is that this wound has been opened anew, right, you talked to the Sanders Campaign, Hillary Clinton drew first blood by bringing this back up again. This is not just bad blood, lingering over from 2016. These are fresh comments coming out of a documentary. Yeah, i think, you know, you saw representative talib saying, you know, that she would boo. The audience, they started that boo, and the moderator, you know, referred to Hillary Clinton as a hater, and so yes, i mean, this rift is still very fresh for a lot of folks and that, you know, could portend badly, especially if senator sanders is the nominee. Will Hillary Clinton unify around him as she said that she would in those later comments. You know, is that going to hold up once we actually get to, you know, a general election. Should he be the nominee. And let me go to this. I dont feel like it was reopened and obviously by the interviews that Hillary Clinton has given. If youre on social media at all, you know it has never ended and the feelings that sanders supporters from 2016 had about the party, about the dnc, and about Hillary Clinton, supporters never changed and so i wonder from your point of view how what we saw from the congresswoman and im an open fan of the squad. I think theyre brilliant. I think they are changing the party in a great way. The fact that they too have that feeling, how would sanders unite a party behind him that he and his supporters still have such resentment toward . You know, i think if youre on the ground here in the state of iowa, youre seeing just an incredibly strong ground game, and so i think what the campaign and what supporters in this state are really focused on is just this incredible momentum. And so these are really somewhat of a, kind of a distraction. Were really excited about senator sanders is surging and its on a basic message. You know, his consistent basic message, and that is we need medicare for all. We have people being crushed by medical debt. We have to do something about the minimum wage. In the state of iowa, our minimum wage is 7. 25. So i think that the membership is really, we are so caught up in this incredible ground game, and i think that i think that, you know, you see him on social media, im on twitter, you know, i have a facebook page, but it isnt the kind of thing that im gravitating to because we have a ground swell of support. But youre inside the camp, and so, you know, and i dont want to leave britney out of this, but its not a distraction because there are two parts of campaigns, right, theres the mechanics, which is what youre talking about, getting out the voters, and theres also the message, the sort of messaging of the campaign, the image of the campaign, and outside of people who are already inside sanders world, who are already supporters, the Sanders Campaign can sometimes feel a bit hostile. The question is if this senator who is an independent manages to become the standard bearer of the democratic party. Hes never been a member of but hes part of obviously the caucus, if he were to become the standard bearer, how does the caustic part of the party, how does that attract the rest of the party to feel loyalty to him . You know, i think that take for example, i live on the east side of des moines and thats the working side class, and ill tell you what, my neighbors are fired up for bernie. I mean the ones who are not. I mean, we did a little poll behind us, there are lots of people who like biden, who like buttigieg, who like klobuchar, who like warren. And if their candidate doesnt get the nomination, sanders still is going to want them to vote for him. Im not talking about sanders supporters. I think his message resonates across the board. Because every day people are hurting. This is a rigged Economic System that is crushing people with debt. We are students being crushed with debt. We have Immigration Reform we need desperately. We have somebody in the white house that is, you know, separating women and children. A candidate still has to sell themselves. Let me get britney in here, and see what you think about this. You are on social media as mi, social media is not the real world. Lets be honest. Social media is just social media. It is part of the imaging. I dont know how many think pieces we can write. There is a bend the knee aspect of the pitch such as it were to all the other voters. Does that work with all the other voters . Well, first of all, happy black history month, joy. January was a long year, but we made it. Yes, yes. And you know, i think that this calculus of alienation is frankly quite confusing to me. Like im an activist, i believe in conflict as long as the conflict is productive. And i have Great Respect for the congresswoman, and i believe that she apologized because she knew even though that moment was true to how she felt, she knew that that wasnt productive conflict. Frankly, i endorsed secretary clinton in 2016, but i dont think shes been contributing to productive disgroe productive disagreement either and theres a way to have legitimate disagreements thats restorative and doesnt run the risk of leaving people out and getting people to stay home when it really matters. I dont think this is the smartest move at all, and i think ultimately this campaign has to decide if its going to be a light in the darkness or if its going to get caught in the same kind of nastiness that we see in the other party. Yeah. I was at the event last night, and up until that moment, it was a great event. Ilhan omar told this amazing story about seeing movies about the United States when shes in the refugee camp, when shes being prepared, trying to get acclimated and there were all these leave it to beaver movies in america, and she talked about getting off the plane in new york and seeing Homeless People on the street and saying this isnt the america you promised we would get, and her father said were going to get to the america, i promise you, and i thought that was just brilliant, and five minutes later this thing happened and blew the moon completely. It demolished the mood, and i thought politically, it was Christmas Day yesterday for the Bernie Campaign because of the bloomberg being allowed into the debate. That is right down the wheel house, and again, we got it got sidetracked because of the Hillary Bernie thing. Bad politics. You know, joy, i think to your point, what we are talking about, the candidates as they are making this final push going into the weekend, we have been talking so much about electability, and the candidates electability, and its been such a raw election for iowa voters, caucus goers over the past year, but you hear the candidates really talking about a message of unity. You have multiple candidates talking about unifying, you know, not just setting that tone, coming out of iowa, but through this nomination process and headed into the general election, and so as much as what the candidates are going to do, what these voters are going to do, you know, coming out of this primary is also a real question thats being raised by this rift. Absolutely. And i want to get beyond this, but let me quickly play jennifer pal m palmeri. Part of the problem for clinton was we had every day 17 people attacking her. You had two democrats and 15 republicans, so when you got to the general election, there were a lot of senator sanders supporters that were never going to come her way. It is really corrosive and when donald trump and democrats are making the same argument against another democratic argument that sticks and it hurts them later. Michael moore who was on my colleague david gur earlier this afternoon. Take a listen. People were already booing hillary before rashida said anything because thats the lechl level of anger. Maxillarys comments about bernie, nobody likes him, he cant win. That only exists to help donald trump. It was divisive, it was cruel and it was a lie. Sherry, here are the numbers. Biden and sanders are like neck in neck. If you look at the margin of error, really the top four candidates are bunched up in the race, 23 in the latest Monmouth University poll of iowa voters, biden 23, sanders 21, buttigieg, 16. Warren, 15, and down from there. The only other person in double digits, Amy Klobuchar. Would you be prepared to fully support joe biden as the nominee . If he gets the nomination, but, you know, i think that this is all a reaction to bernies strength right now, i mean, this is a reaction from the dnc. Because of bernies strength. What does the dnc have to do with it . When they allow another candidate in, people want to make a big deal about it. We dont really care. Youre talking about bloomberg. Or theyre going to make a big deal about an argument or somebody booing, that is just a reaction to bernies ground swallow support and its growing every day. I just left my neighborhood, and i had a bernie knocker and i already had a bernie sign, you know, in my lawn. Theyre checking the list, and theyre checking it twice. Im here to tell you, it really, all this stuff really doesnt matter because we know that bernies surge is real because east authentic, hes consistent and because hes going to win. What if he doesnt, what then, do you believe that your friends who are part of, you know, the world of Bernie Sanders supporters will move on then to the general election nominee and be enthusiastic supporters, no matter who it is. You know what, i can speak for myself. Heres the thing, i will support the democratic nomination because anything is better than whats going on in washington, d. C. But, you know, were not focused on that because we know right now that bernie is ahead. Bernie is ahead, you know, and bernie is going to show up big and strong in the caucuses, and were going to win this caucus. We dont want to make this about these two against each other. As youre talking to people in the world, is that what youre hearing as well, this is essentially a bernie biden two person race or broader than that. Elizabeth warren has had big events here. Theres buttigieg support. Theres other people. Do you get the sense that anyone else, bloomberg, anyone, has got any momentum. I think its much broader than that, and i think we have to remember, polls were telling us one thing in 2016, and we got a very different result. Ultimately we wont know who people like until they head to the ballot box. Theres a lot of Energy Around a lot of candidates but mostly there is Energy Around saying thank you, next, to 2016. We have seen the song and dance, and we know what happens when people of good conscience who want the same result end up fighting with each other. It leaves a gaping hole for fa sh fascists walking right through. We havent even figured out how to make sure everybodys vote counts when they come to the ballot box in 2020. Lets get our priorities in order and ensure that every voice is heard in this election. You know, erin, your news organization, the 19th is focused on what women care about. What are you hearing back as youre talking to people on the campaign trail . What are women telling you they want to see happen . Well, women are very concerned about who they feel is going to be the best candidate to beat president trump. Do they care whether its a woman . No. I mean, not necessarily. But that is not to say that they are they are very adamant, a lot of women im talking to that a woman can win. But there are certainly some that have some concerns about that, and so that is the electability argument that you have heard from Amy Klobuchar here, that you have heard from senator Elizabeth Warren who has an ad out, saying she cant win, trying to reassure people who may like candidates like warren or klobuchar, but really, women, like many democrats, i mean, their top priority seems to be beating this president in november. What about you, charlie, i wonder if the entrance of bloomberg, what impact do you think its having on all of us . I dont think its having any impact here, except anticipatory dread, what will the iowa caucus mean when Mike Bloomberg is really in the race, instead of being a tv commercial. And the other thing i want to say is the overwhelming feeling i get on all the other issues is dread, uncertainty. Whats going to happen next with my health care. Whats going to happen next, whats the next lunacy to come down the pike. Whats the next bunch of emails, nobodys got their feet under them right now, and i think theyre going to wind up because of that seeing a lot of people throwing punches in the dark because it makes them feel safe. The thing that this the opposite of 2008 in that in 2008, there was excitement, and anticipation and people believed therm going to win. All they were going to win. All i hear around this country is dread. Thank you for being here. It was great to meet you. Really appreciate it. Britney packnet cunningham, Charlie Pierce and erin haynes, stick around for our next hour. 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