As statutes fall across the country. Protesters are returning to america streets once more their anger renewed over the death of Rayshard Brooks in atlanta. As cities and the congress get down to the business of changing policing policy in america, there is more difficult news on the streets as a scuffle that began as a dui stop turned deadly. In rapid succession, the police chief resigned, multiple body cameras and videos were leased and the officer that fired the lethal shots was fired. It followed a week where we saw a different type of disturbing image from around atlanta. Intensely log lines of voters waiting in the rain as Voting Machines failed. Turnout soared. Tripling from the primaries in 2016. We have heard little from the president this weekend on the broad demands for Police Reform or about the brooks case specifically. In a rare concession, the president reversed plans to hold his first post Covid Campaign rally in tulsa, oklahoma on juneteenth, the holiday celebrating emancipation. He is going to hold it a day later instead. I want to go straight to atlanta where nbcs Morgan Chesky has the latest on this these new development developments. Reporter tonight, anger and frustration in atlanta, crowds gathering outside the fire gutted wendys where 27yearold Rayshard Brooks was shot and killed by police during an attempted arrest. Isaac lee, one of hundreds who came to pay respects. You had a chance to walk around and see the site, when you come here and see the site firsthand, what do you feel . Sadness. Disparity. Afraid. Reporter youre afraid . Im afraid because im afraid this is not going to be the last time this is going to happen. Reporter this eyewitness video shows a struggle between brooks and the Police Officers. The father of four grabs a taser, runs away and shoots towards police who returned with fatal gunfire. Its a legitimate fight with a legitimate use of force. Reporter the police union stand by the officers actions saying the encounter changed when brooks turned and fire the taser. If someone is running away, is it okay to fatally shoot them. Only if they attack you. He attacked the officer with a taser. He fires at the officer with the taser. Reporter and takes off. All in an instant. Reporter within 24 hours atlantas police chief stepped down. The officer who shot brooks was fired and the other officer involved placed onned administrative duty. There is no way in watching that that officers life was in immediate danger from a nonlethal weapon being pointed backwards. Reporter Chris Stewart represents the Brooks Family and says police mentality has to change. His wife tamika had to break the news to her daughter. Let my daughter know her father was not coming. She said what do you mean my father not coming . I said hes not here anymore. Mama, no hes here. Stop playing. Hell be here to get me. Reporter meanwhile, massive protests for the third weekend took place across the country as thousands ask for Police Reform and accountability. Here in atlanta, hundreds gathering tonight in support of Rayshard Brooks. And they understand the pain. And even though im unable to protest by them out there doing it makes me feel amazing because if i had the strength to do it, i would be there myself. Our thanks to Morgan Chesky for that report and joining me now is one of the attorneys for the family of rashayshard brook justin miller. Mr. Miller, thank you so much for taking the time to come on the program tonight. Id like to simply start by asking for your reflections on how the city has responded in the wake of this tragedy. Do you think that what has happened so far, the fact that the officer has already been fired, the fact that the police chief has stepped down, is that enough or do you still want to see additional steps taken in this case . Is that enough . Thats a good question. And i think the answer to that question is would it be enough if you lost a Family Member or a father and i think the answer would be no. So no, that the not enough. We think those are good steps, but we need to see more, and were going to see more, and if not, well continue on the same path. What do you think needs to happen next here and tell us a little bit also about what mr. Brooks was like. Who is the person that weve all lost . So i mean, mr. Brooks was a man like any other man and i dont want to say black man like any other man, he was just a human being like all of us are. He was working a temp job at a taco place and he was doing that for the last few months. The covid19 kind of hit him hard just like it hit everyone else. He was trying to raise his three daughters and his stepson, and by all accounts, he was doing a great job of that. The day he was killed or the evening he was killed, he had just come from hanging out with his wife and his kids because it was his 8yearold daughters birthday and yesterday, the day when she found out her father died was the day she had her Birthday Party and we were sitting there when the mother pulled out cupcakes and it was surreal to see that little girl in her birthday dress waiting for her father to come pick her up to go skating and having to hear her mother say he wasnt coming. Thats really thats heartbreaking. I want to play a little bit of what one of your partners in this case had to say about some of the details of the case. We saw a little bit about this in Morgan Cheskys report. The issues surrounding the use of the taser. I want to play this sound byte for everyone and ask you about it. Watch. In georgia, a taser is not a deadly weapon. Thats the law. That the what t thats what the cops are trained to do. You cant say he ran off with a weapon that could kill somebody when you say its not deadly. He had other options than shooting a man in the back. So let me just put that question to you. I mean, did you believe that the Police Officers here had other options, other things they should have done. Yes, they had several other options. I mean, just from the beginning of the entire altercation, they had other options. They didnt have to take this man or attempt to take him into custody because he was sleeping in his car. He was trying to do the right thing. He didnt want to drive drunk. He was stopped. He was not a threat to anyone. They could have taken his keys. They could have said hey, whats your wifes number . Call her. Let her come pick you up. They could have done any number of things. So once we get past this point, we get to the taser, once hes running away and you have his i. D. , you have his car, you know who he is, you know the area hes in, hes been drinking and you have backup coming, so i mean, they could have done any number of things. Wait for your backup. Call for a helicopter. Just a number of things and none of those would have resulted in his death. Whats your understanding of how this is going to proceed from the perspective of potential charges being filed or other steps being taken against the officer involved . It our understanding right now that the d. A. s office is deciding on what charges theyre going to place on the officers. We dont know really. They dont confer with us on these things, but wed like to see the officers charged with, you know, whatever they feel is appropriate and whatever they can get a conviction for because, you know, this is just unwarranted. It is continuing and we are seeing this time and time again and we are just tired of seeing it. I think last night, my partner, he was exasperated and couldnt really articulate any longer just how he felt about these situations and yes, sometimes there will be issues. Im watching it right now as i talk to you, these things happen. But just because you tussle with an officer, it shouldnt be a death sentence for anyone. What do you have to say to the thousands, if not tens of thousands, even more who have taken to the streets over the last few weeks in the wake of George Floyds death and to those out in the streets of atlanta trying to say that this is enough . Whats your message to them tonight . My message to them would be keep pushing. Dont stop. Id say be safe. You know, i am one of those who is not overly concerned with property or things. I do not want anyone hurt. I do not want any property burned or businesses destroyed, but i care more about the lose of a human life than i do about a wendys. I care more about those three little girls and little boy that lost a father than i do about a wendys. When the george floyd case kicked off and people in atlanta were upset understandably and stores got looted and things were broken. I care more about george floyd and his daughter than i do about the mall fortunately, unfortunately. Do you trust the mayor keasha lance bottoms to do right by this family under these circumstances or do you have concerns about her healeadershi . No, i actually dont. I think generally she does a good job and her heart is in the right place. We hope she continues and does a good job going forward. Shes not one of the people who im overly concerned about in this situation, and i think that the things that need to get changed, they have to start in a different place. I think she can certainly help but i think that a lot of stuff that needs to happen here is going to start in a different place and not the mayors office. When you say a different place, what do you mean by that . What does need to change . The plaolice leadership, not just atlanta tax all over the country, has to understand the way policing has been done for the past hundreds of years in america is not going to work anymore. We have been policing our communities like the military, like in an occupied territory instead of a community. I remember seeing shows like the andy griffin show where the Police Officer knew everybody and what they liked to eat and everybody knew everybody. That does not exist anymore. When Police Officers come into neighbor 450hoods like these, t have bulletproof vests and heavy weaponry and armed to the teeth and residents are scared. Situations like this will happen if the police are not trained corre correctly, these things will continue to happen. All right. Justin miller, attorney for the family of Rayshard Brooks, thank you very much for your message sir and taking the time to talk to us and our viewers. Joining me is political analyst Michael Steele. Michael, always great to have you. Let start, though, with these somber and difficult events that have been playing out this weekend. I mean, whats your initial reaction to what you saw unfold in atlanta . It does seem as though were at least seeing some change in how Public Officials are responding. There was no delay in this particular case, but at the same time, here we are again, talking about a black man who has been killed at the hands of Police Officers. Yeah, kasie, thats the critical point there. The public response by officials, okay, the lockdown, they fired people. They resigned. All of that is important and its good to see it happen but the core reality remains. It goes to the heart of what your previous guest was talking about. Two things, one, were tired. Were tired. I had another conversation with my son about all of this. You know, you can see the kpas be his face he wants to engage in the everyday goings and comings of life. There is this thing hanging over his head. The community is tired of it. Young black men are tired of it. Their moms are tired of it. The community is tired of it. Thats one. Two, it goes to the core of what we should be looking at in terms of the policing asaspects. Its a bigger issue like race and things we need to tackle. If we can start in one corner because men are dying, let look at the policing. You have other alternatives besides pulling out your gun. You know he took your taser. Your taser has a 1500foot cord. There are two of you. Do you really kneneed to shoot at that moment . Are there other alternatives . Other alternatives people want to see addressed up front now. The fact police have been trained from a more military perspective to pull their weapon on civilians in these types of encounters is, i think, the point that the boiled over the most with a lot of folks at this point. Yeah. Lets talk for a second about what can be done here because i mean, clearly, these protests have galvanized so Many Americans to the point where they are having a conversation in congress about how to make some changes that would have, you know, not been something they would have focused on at all just a few weeks ago. Tim scott was on with my colleague chuck todd on meet the press this morning and seemed to raise questions what seems to be the critical issue here, the use of force standard. At what point do you use the deadly force we saw . He did say that there seems to be more agreement on banning choke holds for example. Do you think that the conversation that lawmakers in congress and potentially, potentially in line with the president is something that can actually make a difference, or is the conversation not serious enough yet in your view . Thats a good question, kasie. Im a little bit at the point where it not serious enough yet. Only because i dont see this necessarily as something that will be solved at the federal level. Again, were talking about the operative word here is community. These are men and women that protect and serve in communities. They are note federal police. They dont guard government buildings. They dont protect an individual like a member of congress or a president or some other official. These are folks who patrol neighborhoods. Let start with the fact do you live in the neighborhood . Do you know who the young men and women are in the community . We need to drill this down. I get the knee jerk response to create a federal solution, look to congress and have them past a law but i dont think thats necessarily going to solve your problem. I mean, just look at what weve done on the criminal Justice Reform space. Look what weve done since Trayvon Martins death and yet, still here we are. So i dont think the federal response is something im looking for salvation from. Im looking for how our governors and ourbroadly across, we develop the consensus around what policing in our neighborhood should look like recognizing it should be different in a more urban community than suburban one, Rural Community versus a different type of another community. That the why one size fits all may not necessarily be the solution. It can give you some guidelines, choke holds, yeah, dumb, dont do that. But i think if were going to look at that as a way to sort of get to some of the issues, i dont think you want to start at the federal government. Fair enough. On the sort of broader political question, in terms of how just absolutely toxic much of our discourse has been especially around race that many critics say comes from the top from the president of the United States, he said this weekend he was going to move a rally that was scheduled for juneteenth in tulsa, oklahoma, the site of one of the, if not the worst episode of racial violence in our nations entire history, do you think they just didnt know or that they did it on purpose and the backlash was so intense they decided to walk it back . Was your whats your perspective on this decision to first of all, announce this and take it back . Well, i think they took it back because the backlash was so great. I think probably the rational was okay, tulsa, that part of oklahoma one of the redder states in the country, the president wants to, you know, push this narrative around African Americans certainly on the heels of what we saw happening with mr. Floyd. I dont think all the dots were connected and a lot of it has to do with who is advising on these things . African americans do you have in the game to bounce the solution . Someone could raise your hand you dont want to do tulsa because of that. Do you really appreciate how African Americans see juneteenth and what that means to them and youre doing Something Like this on that day. So there are a lot of pieces i just dont think they thought about because the folks arent in the room to share with them that thinking. It doesnt mean the president and his team would have accepted it but does speak to who is in the room and help people understand and let me be specific, help white folks understand exactly when they say and do things like oh, when the looting starts the shooting starts. Not going to go down well. It does matter kasie in the end, if you have people around who can help you understand what your administration is doing particularly as it impacts communities of color, this administration has lacked that from the very beginning and theyre going to pay a price for it and continue to pay a price for it. Well, and quickly, before i let you go, it seems like these numbers have moved to much on these issues, do you think this is durable permanent change towards Police Brutality . Thats a good question. I think your put your finger on the knob of what we should be looking for beginning next week. You know, what happens tomorrow . How does this cement itself into not just the policies that weve been talking about but the psyche of the country. How much are whites willing to move towards African Americans and understanding exactly how we feel about these things and do you really give a damn about that. Dont mimic our hair styles and clothing and slang. Thats crazy. What we need you to do is come in and understand and have a real conversation about why these things matter still after 401 years, that why we feel they havent been addressed. Why they still gnaw at us and why the two of us, black and white have to resolve this thing because everything flows in my estimation, kasie off of that. You put your finger on a very good point about how we internalize this and look at it not just through the depth of mr. Floyd and others but more systemically in making the change we need to make in addressing race in this country. Michael steele, always a great convers