Last year we got whipped. The regular an revolution. In the end, he did more harm. Big difference, putting people first, as opposed to some abstract philosophy. A lot of work to be done. They spent the last few years denying people access to Health Insurance. What complete poppycock. Youve got to run, run, run. Run run run run good afternoon to you on this monday. The pressure is on and the clock is ticking. In our highstakes week for the white house, as they try to reclaim the narrative on the Affordable Care act. Throughout the week, cabinet officials will fan out across the country, hitting ten cities to boost enrollment, including a stop by the president himself in boston on wednesday. That, of course, is the same day that republicans will finally get their chance to grill hhs secretary, Kathleen Sebelius. As she testifies on capitol hill. And im absolutely sure they will have nothing but positive and constructive things to say. The incompetencies in building this website is staggering. Why didnt she know that the president s signature, legislation, was, in fact n trouble . Lets get rid of this failure, and lets start over with something that will work. Okay. Or not. I guess theyre staking their hopes on the forthcoming ryan care rollout. And in his weekly address, the president exhibited a touch of healthy skepticism about republicans newfound concern for those in need of health coverage. Thats why its also interesting to see republicans in congress expressing so much concern that people are having trouble buying Health Insurance through the new website. Especially considering they spent the last few years so obsessed with denying those same people access to Health Insurance, that they just shut down the government and threatened default over it. And not only are republicans busy denying health care to millions, and denying the impact of their reckless shutdown, theyre also denying their own recent history. Yes, leave it to former president , bill clinton, to offer a gentle reminder, as he defended the Health Care Law on sunday in virginia. Look at america today. We have got to implement this Health Care Law the computer deal will get fixed up. Dont worry about that. Everybody has forgotten, by the way, that when president george w. Bush, a republican, put that Medicare Part d drug program in, it was more unpopular than the Health Care Law, and they had terrible problems with the computers. Terrible problems with computers. You see . But never fear. Our 30 rock neighbors over at saturday night live, they got the answers. If our site keeps freezing, weve also provided links to other helpful websites, such as kayak. Com. Where you can Purchase Airline Tickets to canada and buy cheaper Prescription Drugs. Now, listen. Canada has already given us ted cruz, so i think theyve done just about enough. Lets get right to our panel. With us from washington is dana milbank, Political Columnist for the Washington Post. Msnbc analyst and former are rnc chair, michael steele. And in san francisco, msnbc contributor and president of voter latino, maria teresa kumar. The troubles with the Affordable Care act website go beyond being parroted on saturday night live. Health sites woes could dissuade vital enrollee, the young and healthy. They write in its worst iteration, it could lead to a death spiral on falling enrollment and climbing prices. The president , dana, is sending his cabinet on the road. About you how much time is there to turn the tide before what have been glitches on the website become a real enrollment problem, do you think . Well, nobody knows for sure. The administration has set itself a target of the end of next month. I mean, people generally tend to say its within a four to eightweek period. You know, its way too early to be talking about a death spiral. But if you dont get the young and the healthy signing up, and already theyve had to postpone the penalties for not signing up. If you dont get those people signing up, all youre going to get is the older and the sicker signing up. And then its just not going to be economically viable. Thats still a theoretical problem and as president clinton said, at this point a computer problem as opposed to a health care problem. Right. Michael, i know the words death spiral send thrills up republicans spines. But consider this chart, showing the paltry early enrollment for romney care in massachusetts followed by an explosion as the penalty kicked in. Doesnt that counter the republican cries to delay the individual mandate, which would ultimately, as you know, ensure lower enrollment and therefore higher costs for everyone . I mean, it may, martin. To the extent that you do have an example on a small scale in the state of massachusetts of how the enrollment process unfolded there, they did not have the same level or degree of implementation issues that we see on a scale such as the United States. But i think dana raises the more important point, and that is getting younger to get into the system is going to be difficult to do. Because its not just with getting them signed up, but really getting them to appreciate why they need to sign up and why they need this health care. Because they generally believe they dont. So theres there are stages of problems that this whole process will run into. Ive always said republicans need to be measured in their response, let the democrats own this whole thing as much as possible. And then on the back end, look at what needs to be fixed and how you go oh about fixing it, because you still have to put something on the table if you want to take a piece out, youve got to put another piece in to replace it. Or fix it. So i think that this whole process in time over the next two or three months will unfold. But its a mess right now. Democrats and republicans, the white house and the congress both realize that this is a problem that needs to get fixed if they want this thing to have any survivability beyond its initial implementation. I think we all agree with that, michael. But dont you think the history onics have been premature, engaging various government departments. Yes, there was a disastrous rollout of the website. But the actual provision of health care in ways that previously people couldnt get, that surely is something we must support. Oh, yeah, we do support that. But no one really knows what the bottom line costs of that are going to be longerterm. Again, as dana pointed out, if you dont get the young insured in to buy into this, then youre going to have a problem in terms of the cash flow. Sure, but if you do well, if you do, thats great. But you still dont you still you still have the problem, martin, of sticker shock, which a lot of folks are coming into realization on right now in terms of, okay, yeah, ive got a low premium, but ive got a 12,000 deductible for a family of four. So there are all these pieces that will come into play, as people come online and buy into this thing. Employers and insureds alike and well see how it works out. Right now, i think its a big question mark. Okay. Maria theresa, some are jumping on a statement by White House Press secretary jay carney today as alleged proof that the president is seizing health care from honest americans. Take a listen to this. There are going to be changes brought about by the Affordable Care act to create minimum standards. Maternity care is covered, prevent active services are comfort, Mental Health services are covered. The insurance policy you buy doesnt have an annual limit or lifetime limit. So its true that there are existing Health Care Plans on the individual market that dont meet those minimum standards, and therefore, do not qualify for the Affordable Care act. So people wont be able to be ripped off by substandard plans. What a pit. But is this the line of is this line of attack proof that the website will be fixed and republicans then will really have to move on . Not only do they realize that. Lets take a step back and see who they put ahead now to fix this the computer glitch. Its jeff zients. Jeff zients headed up the advisory board, a Health Care Company that pulled together best practices in the health care industry. So he knows what hes talking about. Not only when it comes to health care, but also he knows what hes talking about when it comes to Product Development and deployment. So i think what we need to do is take a step back. Its not about a website. Its all of a sudden millions of americans all of a sudden can go ahead and deploy and get health care, downloading a form, calling a 1800 number or find out lolley at their local state website. So there is Different Levels of enrollment. What the Republican Party is trying to do right now, unfortunately, is they are trying to do smoke and mirrors, saying that because the website is broken, all of a sudden you dont have access to health care. Thats simply not true. And back to what dana was talking about. Its incredibly possibility right now for young people to enroll. And the white house has been doing something strategically smart. They have been enlisting a lot of different celebrities, everyone from karen peri to common to different celebrities who have front row access saying look, we need you to enroll. Theyre going out and talking to cosmos magazine, saying we understand we need a different strategy and lets deploy it. They recognize that in california, florida, and texas alone, there are in each respective state, martin, there are over 2 million young people that need to enroll. And so by working closely with the california exchange, for example, they recognize theyre going to Start Building they need at least 7 million young people to enroll. Just by hits those three states they could not only get them enrolled but have them tell their friends and families about it. Final question to you, dana. Does this situation in your view, and i am asking you to be dana, the prophet now. Dana likes that. Yeah, i know he does. Do you think this is going to work out, dana . Its going to work out one way or another. Well, i mean, positively in the way the administration would like it to. It has to work out, because, you know, once these sorts of entitlement programs get into place, and people realize whats there, they want to keep it. So the republicans are not going to be able to repeal it wholesale. That doesnt mean were not going to see a lot more fury. The difference between the medicare Prescription Drugs, between the romney care in massachusetts, you didnt have a group working so actively to dismantle the entire thing as it goes along. But it gets harder and harder, despite the glitches, to do that, because people are going to actually start receiving benefits. Thank you for pointing out the good work of the republicans over the last three years. Thank you all. Coming up, put iing a human face on the u. S. Drone wall. Well talk to one family taking their story of personal loss from pakistan to capitol hill when we come back. [ male announcer ] pepcid® presents the burns family dinner. 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Nbc news confirmed this afternoon that a drone strike in somalia has killed two leader of al shabaab, the Terror Organization behind the west gate Shopping Mall attack in kenya that left more than 70 dead. Top u. S. Military Officials Say a man named anta, al shabaabs top explosives expert, is among the dead. As with all drone strikes, the full impact is difficult to verify, because the Program Remains highly confidential, and the strikes tend to take place in regions far away from the borders of this country. But tomorrow, one family will bring their story to the very heart of congress as they share with lawmakers what happened on october the 24th of last year. A date when they say their family was suddenly obliterated by a series of drone strikes in pakistan. Rafik raymond and his two surviving children are the subject of a new documentary entitled unmanned americas drone wars. And i had the opportunity of speaking with them earlier today, as well as the film maker, robert greenwald. And i began by asking the family to describe the experience of that day and what has become ground zero for americas drone program. Translator i had noticed that in the allotted area for my family members, there was a newly dug grave. So i at that moment knew something had happened. And i was very worried. I had walked into the center of the village and i saw some young children, so i asked them what happened. Whose funeral is getting prepared . And they said that it was latif rahmans mother, she had been hit by a drone and at that moment i knew my mother passed away as he is my older brother. I came i was under a full shock and i just wanted to faint. I felt as if a limb had been cut off from me for losing my mother. We saw two missiles going like this, down into the ground. At that moment, it had become as if we couldnt tell the difference between night and day. It became dark all of a sudden, and we heard an explosion sound. And i could hear my grandmother crying. I had noticed in my left leg, there was a sudden pain, and it was just increasing. I was so scared that all i could think of doing was just running. But the pain was just very hard to bear. Translator it was eve day and my grandmother and i were at home getting prepared, and she said come out, lets go out to collect the okra in the fields. She was showing me how to tell the difference between a ripe okra and ones that still needed time to grow. Then i had heard after a while, i heard a dumdum noise and i saw these two missiles come hit the ground. Everything was dark. I couldnt see anything. But i heard a cry. And next thing i knew, i started seeing blood coming out of my hand. I tried to wipe it away with my shawl, but the blood wouldnt stop. The blood just kept coming out. And i was just so scared, all i could think of doing was just running. I didnt know where to run, but i just was running and trying to wipe the blood away. Translator when i went there to the house, i saw all of my neighbors and my relatives. They were all mourning. And i was asking them that where is my mothers body, i want to see her face. They wouldnt let me see her face. They said that you dont want to see it. Because later i found out that the drone had blown her to pieces. Robert, i have to say, its a remarkable film that youve put together. Thank you. What motivated you to make this film . I was in pakistan, and i was interviewing and researching, and investigating and filming. And i talked to person after person. And the stories i heard were so radically different than the perceptions in the United States, what the traditional media was reporting. And when i met this extraordinary family of educators whose grandmother was killed, i connected emotionally. Everyone has a mother, everyone has a grandmother. And i felt honorbound to do whatever i could to tell the story using film and to try to bring these people to the United States. The help of people like you and others and alan grayson, where there will be a briefing tuesday, to gain a wide audience for their story. The American Government argues that these drone strikes, if thats what happened in your case, are carefully planned and extremely accurate. Is that your experience . Translator well, im not sure about how accurate they are. But i know in our case that we are a family of teachers. So if theyre trying to target people, i dont know why they would be targeting my mother and my children. And a family of teachers. But do you, rafik, accept that in areas of waziristan and ba luke stan, there are large numbers of separatist groups, terror groups. And was it not in waziristan that the terrorist, ba tilla ma so you had, was actually killed by a drone strike . Is there not good reason for the americans to attack these areas, because of the presence of so many terror groups oh . Translator ive heard of taliban. Ive heard of it associated with afghanistan. Ive heard massoud, but im just a teacher. Im not a politician. From 2004, president sharif was cooperating with the americans. We know that sharif was cooperating with these drone strikes. If there is an objection to whats been happening, shouldnt your objections be addressed to your own government, who appear to have cooped with this administration . Translator i spoke to my local agent, my local political officer, and i filed a complaint about this. And they sent me a letter that said yes, what has happened to you is very sad. And it was probably done by mistake. But we are not the ones that you should be speaking to. You should be speaking to the americans. Do you accept, robert, that the administration itself is now reducing the number of drone strikes. The president has already said that he wishes to transfer management of this program from the cia to the military. Are you satisfied that these steps are at least moving in the right direction in terms of accountability and transparency . I hope so. But better is not good enough. Because were starting an