Transcripts For MSNBCW Meet The Press 20170821 : vimarsana.c

Transcripts For MSNBCW Meet The Press 20170821

National magazines. Some may seem liberal biassed and the economists on the right often does reflect international. The largest in boston were some 40,000 people gathered and 33 people were arrested for mostly disorderly misconduct. Mr. Trump chose to be the president over red america over the country healing. Democrats have it easy. Their voters expect them to criticize this president. The elected leadership are desperate to criticize but quietly waiting for permission slip for voter to speak out. All of this for another typical week for President Trump both sides now to the bannons white house exit. Days after the president would not commit to keeping him on. Mr. Bannon came on very late. I went through 17 senators and governors and i won all the primaries. Steve bannon is out. Captured on the cover of Time Magazine and saturday night live where bannon was the puppeteer pulling the president s string. And casualty of the fight he started inside the white house. Now, bannon tells the Weekly Standard, the trumps presidency that we fought for and won is over. I feel jacked up and now i am free. I got my hands back onto my weapon. That weapon, bannon is back on breitbart. Many believes that President Trump and not steve bannon is the problem. The president has not yet able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to demonstrate in order to be successful. He also recently have not demonstrated that he understand the character of this nation. What we want to see from our president is clarity and moral authority. Moral authority compromised when tuesday happened. This after trump blamed both sides. They came at each other with club and vicious. You had many people in that group other than neo nazis and White Nationalists. Former mitt romney called for the president to apologize. Mr. Trumps response should not be a surprise. A year ago, bannon was brought into where i a campaign that was flaring after mr. Trump refused to stop attack a muslim gold father. I was viciously attacked on the Democratic National Convention Stage by mr. Khan and i responded. 18 months ago, mr. Trump failed to confront White Nationalists on the campaign trail i dont know anything about what you are talking about White Supremacy or White Supremacists. Six years ago, mr. Trump launched his career with the false claim that the first africanamerican president was not born in the United States. You are not allowed to be a president if you are not born in this state the white house was unable to unwilling to provide a guest right down in the press secretary. One republican who is willing to talk is jc watt. Thank you for joining me. Thank you for having me back. Why is it easy for you to come out. You are here this morning. Why do you think so many of your former colleagues who currently are the leaders of the Republican Party are hesitant . Well, chuck, i said earlier in the week that i am not concerned of what others are thinking or what they are saying. My conscious would not allow me to keep quiet and when i was asked, my thoughts on this issue, i chose to speak out simply because i think all president s have what we call and what i call right now moments and everybody, republicans and democrats and every president is going to have a right now moment. I think President Trump had a right now moment last weekend and i dont think he responded the right way. Reverend Martin Luther king say, i am an air to rope, fire and murder. He said i am not angry about that. I am not ashamed of that. I am ashamed at those that would be so inhumane that they would do that to other human beings. When circumstances like last weekend happened, i think we need more clarity, a president speaks for himself or his values and those right now moments and he speaks for the values of our country and you saw the exodus and many people replies, those are not our values of the country. We have someone from the president Faith Council that resigned. Reverend bernard out in new york. I am quite disappointed. Chuck, we did not have more on the Faith Council to resign or at least speak out and so i just felt like when you ask me, would i . I said that i would be delighted and come and share my thoughts. Let me ask you this, it sounded like you think the president lost moral authority, how does he regain it . Well, chuck, i think any president always has to have multiple advisers in council. I think thats important. Not only should you have them, you should listen to them and when i dont know anyone in a circle would be able to say to him, mr. President , when it comes to civil rights and race issues, let me give you some hindsights and some insights and foresights on these issues. The last several months, he has more than one right now moment. When you continue to give the impression that you dont understand of being the president of the world. Those are the values of your country. People around the world takes note. It feels like the party is stuck politically. We are a little bit stuck as a country. What you are saying o f the president and you are not alone and being concerned about this. How do we get unstuck or repudiate in his comment or some people misheard him to be generous. Chuck, one thing i will agree with President Trump is this. The racial divide did not just happen when donald trump got elected. They did not just happen when president obama got elected. They were heightened and intensified over president obama and it carried over the trumps administration. Jc watts as an elected official and a leader if you will and president obama or President Trump, we all have obligation as leaders to not put salt in the wounds and bring a decency and respect to the wound. When you have people like my 2yearold granddaughter because of her skin color would say she should be eradicated or on the face of earth. We dont want to live in harmony with her. Chuck, she does not know those people. When any of us speak to the side of evil or we maybe intentionally given the impression that we are siding with the evil thats a tough ditch to get out of. If you are serving in congress and you are in leadership, how would you handle President Trump right now. Would you try to work with him . If he does not repudiate, would you have this uncomfortable distance from him . Whats your advice to paul ryan and Mitch Mcconnell to these folks . First of all, there is opportunities to use your words to repudiate the president over the last seven or eight months and obviously, during the campaign. He got elected so hes the president. And over the last several months, there is opportunities to disagree with the president on many issues and you know this is not a time for us to be afraid of being tweeted. You know this is not a time to suppress our conviction. I know a lot of those members of congress and they dont think like that. They dont think the way the White Supremacists or the kkk. However, if you are silent, they wear the cap of intentionally or unintentionally, they wear the cap saying we agree with that and thank god for being sad or rand paul or john mccain or lyndsey graham. Those members came out and said we totally disagree with that. Thats not who we are and not the country that we live in and not the party that we want to represent. Jc watts, i am going to leave it there. Congressman from oklahoma, good to see you, sir. I appreciate it. Yesterday i spoke with one of the early leaders, andrew young. He was the executive director of the southern leadership conference, afterwards, he was also the u. S. Ambassador of the united nation. Today hes chairman of the Andrew Youngs foundation. When i spoke to him, i asked him to put of this weeks in context. We originally redeem the soul of america from the triple evils of race, war and poverty. Most of the issues we are dealing now are poverty. We still want to put everything in a racial context. The reason i feel uncomfortable condemning the plan type. Theyre almost the poorest of the poor. Theyre the forgotten americans. They have been used and abused and neglected. Instead of giving them affordable healthcare, they give them jobs and theyre happy. That does not make sense in todays world. They see progress in the black community and television and everywhere else. It is not our fault. We had a struggle from slavery but theyre not militants, theyre chicken. We never try to take advantage of anybody else. Our job was not to put down white people. Our job is to whip everybody up together to come so that we would learn to live together rather than perish together. It feels like we are in a moment where we are stuck and we are stuck for a lot of reasons. The president , you have some even said that there is a growing folks who lost his moral authority to be a healer in all this and to help with reconciliation of all this because of what he did. If he called you this week, how would you tell him to fix it . I dont know what i would say. I think hes caught in a trap. I dont think there is any easy answers. Whats the trap . Hes still politicking and thinking nationally. And so is everybody else, including those whos thinking back and blame it on the civil war hundreds of years ago. The problem that we have is we are not living in a nationalist environment. T were not living in a nationalist environment, and thats also his problem personally, that hes his business is all global. His business is in a Global Economy and hes trying to run the country from a national economy. You just said you dont know what youd quite you dont know how he can get out of his trap. So what would you say to him now if hes asking you for help . I dont know. But, for instance, i think that he made a mistake of thinking that living was easy and it just is not. I mean its hell to pass a bill, its hell to change an attitude, its hell. Almost any changes. And i tell you what, i admire his family, and i think that the thing that the president has to do is think of the american people, all of us, as his family. And i try to think of him as a potential leader not only of the United States of america, but a leader of the free world and of the enslaved world. You come from the Nonviolence Movement that was successful. Yes. What do you say to those activists, two generations later, who think violence is the right way to do it . No, its more about five generations later, and there were those who thought violence was the right way then. And theyre not around. And they werent killed by white people. They were killed by their own anger and frustration and their inability to turn down their emotions and turn on their mind. From 4 years old i was always taught my father used to tap me in the face to try to get me upset. If i swung back at him, hed slap me upside my head. Hed say, see, if you start getting emotional in a fight, youre going to lose the fight. Dont get mad, get smart. And thats been serving thats served me well. And it served me walking in the midst of the klan alone at night without a gun, without police protection. And the only reason i did it was the only ones that were courageous enough to go there with me and who insisted that i go were women and children. The men, you know, hide behind all kinds of militant solutions. But we have to keep our eyes on the prize. And the prize is not vengeance, not getting even, but the prize is redemption. By the way, i also asked mr. Young about the confederate symbol debate and he said removing these symbols can sometimes be more trouble than its worth. He even cited the georgia flag controversy in the early part of this 21st century. He said because of that, the state lost millions and millions of dollars. When we come back, the shocking video of the Charlottesville Violence shot by a Vice News Team embedded with the marchers. And throughout the broadcast well bring you comments from people we spoke to this week at the kentucky state fair in louisville. History. You cant erase history. Like it has to be learned so it doesnt be repeated. So why tear it down, you know . I think charlottesville is only a symptom of a much larger problem. 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Peggy is now an nbc news analyst, so with that, welcome to the team. Thank you. Thank you. Its good to be here. You this week wrote you essentially said concur that the president essentially doesnt have moral authority right now. Can he get it back . You know, i think one of the things we were talking about that you showed in your what i thought were fabulous interviews with j. C. Watts, who was so bracing, and andrew young, who seemed so wise and at a grandfatherly distance, but the subtext of the questioning was has the president lost his moral authority because of the events of the past week. I thought about that, and i think the problem for him is that he did not lose his moral authority because he did not have moral authority, and you cannot lose what you do not have. The whole tale of the first seven months of his presidency was i know im unusual, i know im different, i know i have things that have been offensive to people in my past. However, im going to grow into this figure who is the serious, moral, serious guy. This was another moment in which he didnt do that. Id also just say quickly, one of the baseline things you want from a president during a crisis is you want a calm in the storm. You want a stable center. You dont want a guy who loses his temper, starts talking like this, gets defensive, and just makes everything tear a little farther apart. Gene. Well, you cant lose to have moral authority, you have to have a moral compass. You have to have a moral center. And ive seen no evidence that donald trump has that. He flips from issue to issue, from position to position in what he probably sees as a pragmatic way. Its not pragmatic, its disastrously amoral. And he you know, it was maya angelou who said when somebody shows you who they are, why dont you believe them. So why dont we believe that in fact theres some ugliness inside donald trump. Why dont we believe that . Hes shown it to us time and time again and he showed us this week. Steve hayes, mitt romney wrote a Facebook Post and he said whether he intended to or not, what he communicated caused racists to rejoice, minorities to keep and the vast heart of america to oern. His apologists strain to explain what he didnt mean what we heard. But what we heard is now the reality and unless it is addressed by the as as such, it may be the unraveling out of national fabric. Here i think is the bigger problem. Donald trump is pleased with where we are at this moment. So he looks at this praise that hes gotten from david duke and he looks at the emboldenment of the White Supremacists. And even if he has said, and said finally on monday that he doesnt endorse what they stand for, he looks around and by all accounts hes happy about this. Steve bannon says this was a turning point for the presidency in a positive direction. So its not just that the president made this mistake, its that hes compounded the mistake by the way hes handled it since. Theres no indication that hes going to do what j. C. Watts has asked him to do, what mitt romney wants him to do, that hes going to say, you know what, i repudiate what i said. There shouldnt be any confusion about how i feel about these groups. Hes happy with this. And for those of us who have fought the identity politics of the left for so many years, its incredibly discouraging to see this embraced by at least part of the right, of the same odious identity politics. Im going to go back with the same question i asked j. C. Watts, andrew young, donna, you will start. How do we get past this moment . It feels like if he doesnt move, were stuck. Well, im not sure. I actually think that while the president may not have any moral authority, the country actually does. I think that we can see that over the course of this last week, the demonstrations, certainly the very moving remarks by susan bro, the mother of heather heyer, which was a call to action. That the country has a moral com

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