Administrative leave. Its been two weeks since the Ferguson Community was thrust onto the national scene. For two weeks residents there have been seeking answers and demanding justice while trying to make sense both of the killing of an unarmed teenager and the militant Police Response to their protests. And yet two weeks into this story with so many questions still unanswered, there are signs that relative normalcy is slowly returning to ferguson. As last night marked the Third Straight night with Peaceful Demonstrations that resulteded in zero arrests. A touch of normalcy is also returning in the form of High School Football with four local team games being played this weekend, one today with Normandy High School where the school will retire number 14 commemorating the year Michael Brown graduated. Students will go back to school on monday. But even as routines return, the family of Michael Brown and the Ferguson Community will continue to have to wait for answers, likely at least as long as midoctober. That is the estimate from wen prosecutors will finish presenting evidence in Michael Browns case and for the grand jury to consider criminal charges against officer darren wilson. And so it is clear, even while some things like school, football, and quieter streets are returning, as the parents of Michael Brown prepare to bury their child on monday, it will be quite some time before normal can return to ferguson and of course the protests of recent weeks force us to question if normal is even desirable, if everything now simply returns to normal, will the movement in missouri have failed . Joining me now from ferguson is reverend osajipu who is a pastor for formation and justice at the First Baptist church in jamaica plains, massachusetts. And reverend karl kenny, a columnist at faith and values and adjunct professor at the university of missouri. Nice to have you both. Thank you. Its a blessing to be here. Good morning, melissa. Youve been on the ground and youve been working with young people as well as communities there. At this moment after three nights without tear gas, three nights without the militant response of police, what are the current sort of feelings, emotions in their communities . I mean, young people are in a deep amount of pain here. The very idea of returning to normalcy has to be interrogating, given the fact that normalcy itself is unjust, that between 2000 and 2012 unemployment among fergusons has doubled. To return to the Current Situation would be to return to an unjust situation very much like new orleans. After Hurricane Katrina 0 to the same situation, return it to an unjust status quo. Young people are our leaders. We are in a situation where black youth are leading, simply many are playing catchup in their commitment of radical civil disobedience and noncompliance. Given that the police have deescalated their more militant tactics does not mean theres not heavy Police Presence. Theres still armored tanks on the street. Theyre just parked on parking lots. But they are still here and people are still suffering. So, i so appreciate that. Thats what im trying to get at here is this idea that normal is the thing that we are going for. In part, reverend kenny, you grew up in missouri. Spent three decades in North Carolina. Returned to missouri relatively recently. And as you look at the circumstances in ferguson, is normal as peaceful, even, the thing we should be striving for or is there simmering unrest that we ought to want to continue not for purposes of harming the community but for changing it . We have to admit that it took decades to systematically deconstruct this community and changing, shifting the tide back to something that appears to be normal is going to take a little more time. Theres been an abandonment of this community. Theres been the white flag, the black community has abandoned this community. Theres a level of fragmentation that exists that is unparalleled and is going to take more than a few protests, a few tears, and a funeral to put the rest of the pain in this community. Reverend sekou, a lot of kfgs about the role of media, the role of organizers who are not necessarily indigenous to the community but who have come with a great deal of experience. But are the people of ferguson beginning to feel like as we return to a normal sense of policing that, in fact, the attention will go away . In other words im wondering, are they worried about an abandonment that may be right on the who arehorizon . Weve witnessed the emergence of young black leadership from here. A young rapper and others who are engaging in organizeiorgani. That is very important. Weve needed the national attention. Weve needed the reality of journalists being arrested for people to continue to Pay Attention to whats happening here. And so of course people are frustrated. They are in pain. They are concerned. There are many people like myself who went to high school in st. Louis and who are not going to abandon this community but we are in for the long haul. And then i also want in terms of the kind of peace compensation people are having, we want to be clear about there will be no peace here until there is an indictment and an arrest of darren wilson, until the demilitarization of the policing forces of this community, until theres firm Economic Investment in which the numbers of unemployed have decreased. And so what we are facing with and the task of clergy are to stand with these young people who are engaginging in civil disobedience and noncompliance. That is our moral and ethical responsibility not to lead them, not to preach down, but to stand by with them and to bear witness with them. Reverend, i want to draw on one other possible remembrance here. Reverend sekou brought you up the point of Hurricane Katrina and the abandonment and the experience of post katrina. I was saying earlier the ferguson situation more than anything ive ever covered puts me in mind of that moment. But theres another moment that you and i shared living in durham, North Carolina, when there was an accusation of rape against the duke lacrosse team. As that accusation began to fall apart, so, too, did larger structural issues around race and gender and injustice. And i guess part of what im wondering whether or not the longer term conversation, the bigger structural issues can sustain no matter what happens in the stid case of officer wilson and the killing of Michael Brown. I think youre correct to raise that question. As we learned from durham, North Carolina, there were some core issues that had had to be addressed related to the case in the duke lacrosse rape case. Im afraid once the cameras leave, once the protesters leave, once the people from the outside go back home, that this particular issue is going to be lost in the midst of the community that is continuing to grapple with what it means to exist. As i stated it took years of systemic destruction to bring this community to this particular place and its going to take some very aggressive work on the part of both the black and White Community to bring it back together again. When you have a community that has leadership that is predominantly white and manages a community, when you have city council that is predominantly white and a mayor who states publicly that there is no racial problem in this community, then you have a problem that will not go away once the protesters it bears me when you raise the question of ferguson to those in the state, white people within the state, that they want to question the looters. They want to talk about the rioters. They dont want to address the fact that a boy, an 18yearold boy, and i mean boy in the sense of his youth, is dead. And theres a system that helped create that type of misery and so its going to take more than this and my challenge to clergy, my challenge to leadership, my challenge to those who come here to spend time with the row testers, once this is over, let us not forget that something happened here that could happen again. One more point, melissa, theres another tragedy within this community. Powell who was killed senselessly by police, who is a young man who struggled with Mental Illness being was obviously the case and i promise you that is going to be a continuing part of our coverage here on this this show. Were going to talk about that case as we go. On a quick personal note let me say to reverend sekou who i attended seminary with and to reverend karl kenny, my minister during the years i lived in durham, North Carolina, that i have a great deal of personal satisfaction and pride in seeing both of you standing there continuing to do the work that i have known you to do for years and years, and i am so happy that you are in ferguson, missouri, giving me some hope about what will happen. Thank you so much for joining me this morning. This morning right here in new york city, preparations are under way for a march led by the reverend al sharpton and the family of eric garner, the stat statten island man who died following his interaction with police back in july. 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According to the snok medical examiner his death was caused primarily by compression of the neck and chest and his positioning on the ground while being retrained by police. In less than two hours reverend al sharpton and president of the national ak network will lead a march called we will not go back. With the family of eric garner. The march is set to end at the Staten IslandDistrict Attorneys Office where a rally demanding justice for garner will begin at 1 00 p. M. Joining me with more on todays march is ed todd johnson, a multimedia correspondent, for the gre owe. Com. Todd, what can we expect and who can we expect to see at todays march . Good morning, melissa. You can expect a whole lot of activity and a whole lot of defensemmonstrators here to rem eric garners life and also ask for action, asking for for change and a new kind of training and tactics from the new york Police Department. Theres not a lot going on right now. Its relatively calm. There are buses of defensemmonss that have arrived. Theres been a lot of changes that have had to happen to make this rally possible this morning. A number of businesses in the area here on Staten Island have closed in and ticipation of everyone being here today to avoid problems or disruptions that may occur to their businesses. Thats certainly in play. Theres been a lot of Service Changes from the mta in getting people over here. So thats also something to consider. People are going to gather around the place where eric garner lost his life to about half a mile from here. Theyre going to remember him and kind of kick things off before they, as you say, march to the District Attorneys Office be and then gather nearby where i am right now right outside of the 120th precinct of the Police Department here. And as far as speakers, as you mentioned, the family of Michael Brown will be here joining with the family of eric garner. They may or may not speak. Certainly reverend sharpton will address the crowd. There will be retired new York Police Officers who did not see eye to eye with how this entire thing was handled and senl how eric garner lost his life last month. So thats something that viewers can expect. Kind of hearing former Police Officers themselves do not agree with how everything was handled. The g rios todd johnson in Staten Island, new york. I know there are conflicting reports whether Michael Browns family will be able to be there. As you point out theres a solidarity and can connection between these two families and the men that they have lost. I appreciate your reporting this morning. After the break we go back to ferguson where the unrest may be calming down but the push for change is just beginning. Well take a closer look at how to turn a moment into a movement. We wouldnt have outsiders coming, it will be a little bit better. These people here are trying to get along, just trying to get through. 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This language of an outside instigating force was reiterated by governor jay nixon who on thursday ordered the state National Guard to begin with withdrawing from ferguson after ordering them to the city on monday to provide, quote, protection. For a Statement Released by his office he released could course because since that time the situation has greatly improved with fewer incidents of outside instigators interfering with Peaceful Protesters and fewer acts of violence. With all of this talk of outside agitators, i thought it might be worth remembering these words written by martin loout er kiut jr. From a birmingham jail cell. We are caught in an Inescapable Network of mew talt, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial outside agitator. Anyone who would live outside the United States would never be considered an outsider within its bounds. At the table the director of the center for constitutional rights, recently on the ground in ferguson. Jamal simmons, a democratic consultant, cohost at citizen radio, and president and general counsel at latino justice. From your perspective on the ground, were the behaviors of pol