Harrisperry. We have breaking news from the middle east this morning. Dozen of turkish hostages have been released. They returned this morning to cheering crowds. It was feared for the hostages safety that kept them from getting in the fight with isis. And this Week Congress voted on the very fight, agreeing to authorize the United States military to train and arm syrian rebels. It was the first fullment of a request made by president obama. The response was overwhelming. 7822 in the senate. We heard republicans saying things in support of the president and his authority. I frankly think the president s request is a sound one. Theres a lot more we need to be doing. Theres no reason for us not to do what the president asked us to do. What would our enemies and allies think if we rejected the president s authority to do this . So yes, congress did something in twine etc. Vacations. And thats news in itself. The president was quick to say the votes show his campaign is united. This shows the world that americans are united in confronting the threat from isil. These terrorists thought they could frighten us but today theyre learning the same hard lesson of petty tyrants and terrorist who is have gone before. We do no give into fear. When you harm our citizens, when you threaten the United States, it doesnt divide us. It unites us. But congress did not authorize air strikes against isis in iraq. Congress did not green light air strikes against isis in syria. Congress did not give permission to the the president to wage war against isis. But the president didnt ask for their permission. The same president who has a candidate spoke clearly on the limits of a president s power to go to war. And in 2011 then senator obama said, quote, the president does not have power under the constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack that does north involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation, and yelt here we are. Despite president obamas repeated statements that isis does not pose an immediate threat to the nation the war has already begun. United states Central Command has already laumplged 176 air strikes against iraq. And the pentagon has a plan in place. But this is not just president obama issue. Every president is faced with the request of weather to go to war. Often an unrelenting push to say yes, whether or not congress approves. In United States invaded the caribbean island without asking for authorization by congress. In 1989 the first president bush ordered thousands of u. S. Combat troops into panama, again without asking congress. In 1999 president clinton sent the military to assist nato in kosovo. Congress debated several to different degrees and some that would have prohibited military action but naifr came to a consensus. President busch got authority for the but they also took the view under the constitution the president could unilaterally make war in order to avoid future attacks on any american at home or overseas. It was president bushs successes that helped set up president obama to make history. But its precisely the urge of commanders in chief to go to war that the founders try to protect against. The constitution splits the power to go to war between the president and congress. So its not just one person who makes the decision of whether to bring an entire country to the battlefield. As then senator obama said when hefgs running for president , it is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress Prior to any military action. Joining me from washington is kristen welker. Is the president feeling any pressure to come back to Congress Later this year and ask for broader authorization for the war against isis . I think hes feeling the pressure, dorian. But theres no indication hes planning to do that at this point in time. President obama has said he believes he has the authority to act unilaterally. To wage the air strikes against isis targets in iraq and syria because of legislation that was signed under george w. Bush in 2001. It gives the president the authority to go off al qaeda and its affiliates. They argue isis is an affiliate of al qaeda. Ironically president obama has argued that legislation should be repealed. So the white house finds itself walking a very fine line right now rhetorically. But the pressure is mounding. More and more lawmakers are saying they want a vote. Senator tim kin introduce legislation that would give the senate and congress a vote on wlrnt to move forward with the military action. And a group of bipartisan members of the house urging leader pelosi and john boehner to bring a vote to the floor to give president obama the authority to wage military action against isis. What i can tell you is pressure is mounding. Lawmakers are saying they want to vote on it when they come back in november november, but theres nop indication they will actually do anything more than debate. So after november, of course. After the midterm elections. I want to shift gears and ask you about last night. Someone was able to jump the white house fence and get inside the white house and you were there. Can you tell us what happened . It was stunning. Someone identified as 42yearold Omar Gonzalez jumped the fence at the white house at 7 20 p. M. He ran all the the way up the north lawn. And he made it into the doors of the portico. So essentially entered the residence of the white house. He was apprehended immediately right after he walked through the doors. The first family wasnt home at the time. They had already left for camp david. Secret service say its not at aum acceptable he was apprehended in that location. Theyre launching a large investigation to determine what happened and to prevent it from happening in the future. Thank you. I want to come back to the issue of executive authority and bring in my panel. Coauthor of the National Security blog just security. Amy edison executive director of newyorker. Com. Distinguished senior fellow at demoos. So i want to turn to you. The uz the president have authority for this war . Unfortunately not. The best thing so far was the authorization was given after 9 11 in the 2001 congressional statute. That theory doesnt hold up. I would put it this way. The theory they articulated was never heard before last week. And the idea that isis is a part of al qaeda is a stretch for a number of reasons. First, they didnt exist on 9 11. Second, the two groups have fallen out with each other. Secretary kerry said it was a political substantiate. But the two groups are fighting each other. They are mortal enemies in syria. So its difficult to call them a successor sor to al qaeda when in fact theyre up against each other. Why is it important for us to believe the president might be acting legally. And does it matter anyway when the majority of americans support this plan and we have a recent poll that shows 62 of americans support the parking lights decision on isis. 22 oppose it does it matter . It matters a great deal. Why . Because the law matters. The constitution matters. Because what we call these conflicts matters. It also disstarts how we go into it. In order for the president to say that he has the authority to do this he said isis is and isnt. He also said this conflict is what it isnt in order to not get to a position where might be would say he has to go to congress. We heard him calling this a counterterrorism effort. Where does that set up the consent and real debate about what this might become . It constrains the president from speaking as honestly and openly about what were doing as he can and should because hes trying to find a space between the language of laws in the language of the constitution. That should be what chains how he presents what hes doing to American People. What he needs to do or what to do should set the language. Not a kind of loophole seeking exercise. I mean, if the authorization to use military force against al qaeda applies here, one kind of wonders where it doesnt apply. So theres legal and constitutional questions. I want to turn to the political optics. How does this play for the president and for democrats if something goes wrong . It plays terribly for the president and the democrats. Its part of the game being played in congress. The ting that upsets me the most is we now go to war haphazardly, which is insane. So the president is allowed to proceed with his plans. But congress has no responsibility involved here because they havent officially authorized it. The constitution seems to be clear congress is the branch of government that can declare war. What happens is things go haywi haywire, then they blame obama. They say he should not have done that. The real important thing for the American People when it comes to congress authorizing military action is that theyre considered more the representative of the people themselves. And so when they at the time they hypothetically authorize this action, it should come after a robust debate so the public is informed. The polls are meaningless because most of the people responding to the polls have no understanding of everything involved. Thats a very important point. I want to come back to the question of congressional authority. Well come back to that in a minute. 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Shouldnt congress be the Key Institution under the constitution that is pushing the president to seek authorization . Absolutely. I think both the president and congress are making it too easy for each other. Thats also going to make it hard later on. A lot of people in congress and the senate are worries about how a vote would play. It was a sort of general jes clur in the direction of support for the operation specifically about training the rebels. But you know, they are making it too easy for the president to do this. Some of them for ideological reasons. Republicans who believe it should be easy for the president to do it. A lot of them because theyre worried about how their vote is going to play in the next election. Its very unpredictable how its going to play. Hillary clinton offered for it in iraq. She came to regret it. Shes now said she did regret it. In that case maybe its crazy, its possible they should vote on what they believe on. Speaking of rand paul and hillary clinton, i just want to indicate some of the key votes, potential 2016 president ial candidates. Ted cruz votes no. Rand paul voted no. Marco rubio voted yes. Bernie sanders no. Elizabeth warren no. What power does congress have if they disagree with military action . They do have the power not to fund it. But the reverse is also true. So if there are appropriations where president s have done in the mast. You mentioned president clin in on the in kosovo. They used the appropriations bill to say congress has approved. How can you say you dont approve when you have given us the money to conduct the strikes. The white house has called i an authorization. Not just an proappropriation. Its true they did not authorize anything. They just approved the funding of the training and the arming of the rebels and not just that, but in the legislation, even marco rubio has a little bit of nail at the bottom of the legislation says nothing in the legislation should constitute authorization for american forces. So even if they took it that far, they still ducked on the question of authorizing forces. I want to get to the question of congress ducking. And theres a well known empirical finding that there are in many cays two presidencies. The presidency around Foreign Policy in which president s have much manufacture latitude and then a presidency around domestic policy and we know obstructing much of this president s agenda. What is the political benefit to congress on not voting on military thorks and why are they stepping back and letting all president s have such latitude . One, i think the president should have a great deal of latitude when it comes to National Security. There seems to be general gream on that. In this case i think congress is all over the map. Both parties seem to be split. I think congress does not understand the situation very well. And we had not decided to make air strikes against isis until the videos came forward. The videos were horrible. But you dont go to war on that basis. If we wanted to go to war against isis after the videos, we should have wanted to go to war against isis before those videos. So i think Congress Really wants no part of this. Im not sure how much the president wants a part of this. So there is really an absence of political leadership. One of the most important issues facing the country. You walk into that room very quietly without thinking about it. But then youre there and you have to see what happens next. And thats something that hasnt been discussed. Nobody wants to think about whats behind the door. But theyre going in. To be continued. It looks like were going to war and this is not going to end shortly. 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