Call me bloody mary bill. It works after a long night with the whiskey. Morning joe starts right now. According to government run news outlets, last week the iranian government launched a live monkey into launched a live monkey into space. Theres been no independent confirmati confirmation which means it probably didnt happen. They released a photo, this is the alleged iranian space monkey. Based on the photo, im guessing he didnt volunteer for the mission. And id like to see them hook the iranian space monkey with the ikea sweater monkey. Wouldnt they make a great couple. They said he flew into space and came back alive and well and even threw him a parade when he got back. Theres the space monkey. Adorable when he banks his little sim balls together. Very cute. Good morning from los angeles, tuesday, january 29th. With us on set from new york, willie geist, mike barnicle, senior Political Editor and White House Correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein, former treasury official and morning joe economic analyst, Steve Rattner and in washington, washington anchor for bbc world news america, katty kay. So glad to have you with us this morning. Willie geist, an awful lot to talk about. You almost wanted to hear don pardo say, tell them what you want. Hillary gets parting gifts, a 60 minutes sendoff by the president of the United States. Yesterday, lots of cash. Yeah. Looks like the Obama Campaign is going to retire her debt. According to Bloomberg Business weeks josh green, a group of obama donors deciding to pay off the 2008 Campaign Debt she ran up which came to 250,000 bucks of last year. 120 people cut checks to pay off her bills. We will get into that story a little bit. Put that something with the 60 minutes view, a nice parting package for Hillary Clinton. No doubt about it. Also outside washington, looks like gridlock finally getting set aside for a comprehensive immigration bill. Well still see whether it passes or not. You had a lot of people in 2007 saying democrats and republicans had come together and then it was sidetracked. Not so sure if that will happen again. Certainly the republicans and president feeling like they may get a deal on immigration. Yeah. The moment feels a little bit different. John mccain said on sunday we have to do something about the latino vote. President obama won 71 in the election a few months ago. He said today, the president is to unveil his own plan for Immigration Reform and will do that in las vegas. In nevada, a state where hispanicses makes. 27 of the population, comes a day after a Bipartisan Group of eight senators reached a compromise how to move forward with comprehensive Immigration Reform. Included in that bill, a pathway to citizenship for 11 million undocumented workers currently in this country. Other Bipartisan Groups and senators have stood in the same spot before trumpeting similar proposals, but we believe this will be the Year Congress finally gets it done. The politics on this issue have been turned upside down. For the first time ever, theres more Political Risk opposing Immigration Reform than supporting it. The whats going on now is unacceptable. In reality, whats been created is a de facto amnesty. We have been too content for too long to allow individuals to mow our lawn, serve our food, clean our homes and even watch our children while not affording them any of the benefits that make our country so great. A few of the bullet points, under the framework, those seeking citizenship would be required to register with the federal government, settle debts with the government including fines and back taxes, undergo a background check and learn english and american civics. Yesterday, marco rubio in florida sought to win over conservatives opposed to any deal with threats of amnesty. There are over 11 million workers undocumented. Thats not something any wanted to see happen. It is what has happened. We have an obligation and need to address the reality of the situation we face. I think today is an important first step in whats going to be a significant complicated journey. The issue of immigration is not a simple one. We have the opportunity to do it right and if we do, i think well do a Tremendous Service to our country. Snow jo. Joe, remains to be seen how far this gets but you see john mccain and Lindsey Graham talking about what theyre talking about in terms of a bill that even hints at amnesty. No doubt about it, things have changed in the last five years. There will still be conservatives in the house who want to be assured by marco rubio and john mccain and any conservative that supports this bill that wont be a repeat of 1996, that was an outright amnesty bill, it really didnt look for, didnt plan for, to make sure you didnt continue a steady stream of Illegal Immigrants into the country. Already theyre looking back, mike barnicle, at 1986, Ronald Reagan, again, and Congress Passing a bill that only caused more problems in the future. But i think they feel this time they will get it right. They better get it right. I dont know if theres a way for Chuck Schumer or harry reid to make marco rubio the point person and would be the success of this bill if he were to play a daily role in the senate. The problem is, as you alluded to, what happens when this bill goes over to the house of representatives. I would think given the composition of the house and whats gone on within elements of the House Republican party, someone has to sit down with them and ask the question, dont you think, katty, are you interested, is the Republican Party interested in carrying a National Election within the next 80 years. Thats the polisplit they hao look at. If mitt romney had won a share of hispanic votes george bush got back in 2004 wed be looking at president romney right now. The Republican Party has to decide, are we going to try go for the president ial elections, in which case we have to do better with the hispanic vote and means frankly we have to do Immigration Reform or are you a House Republican member from a seat in South Carolina and youre worried about who is going to run against you in a primary from the right if you support and sign up for Immigration Reform. You know that primary challenge will come from somebody more conservative than you, who will say i know constituents dont like Immigration Reform and hate amnesty in a path to citizenship for Illegal Immigrants and i will counter you in your primary challenge. Thats the dynamic at play for House Republicans. If theyre looking at their own seat and actually the party as a whole, if we had a lot more conservative people elected in those primaries, the House Republican party looks more conservative as well. This looks like the first obvious instance gerrymandering will have a legislative effect. Huge. This is totally different district by district than state by state. I think marco rubio has his work cut out because he is the point person to sell this to conservative house caucus and conservative radio. He will be doing hits with Rush Limbaugh, the point person talking to that universe. What hes telling them is a package that say this is amnesty but we will have strenuous and onerous requirements before hand and a system set up where we ensure the border is set up before you go there. I like the way you describe limbaughs audience as that universe. Was being generous. I dont know if this bill will go through for all the reasons you guys have been talking about. It gets closer than anything weve seen before, first, because the republicans should need Something Like this and it does address their concerns, particularly you just alluded to, sam, the principle the border has to be made secure before you start dealing with these people and one question joe mentioned what happened in the 80s you stop this flow and dont have this problem again. The right wing of the republicans can say what they will say. Everybody knows in their heart of hearts were not going to deport 11 or 12 million Illegal Immigrants, split up families, its not going to happen. The question is, what is the path and how do you deal with it in a way both sides are comfortable and not rewarding people with bad behavior and sneaking in the country. Lets address the liberal concern, theyre worried the southwestern attorney generals are border hawks and have a de facto signoff whether this goes through. Theres no detail as to what the sequencing is. The border is secure, lets go with the amnesty part of it. Theres real concern im hearing from progressives, we dont want the border to go through and none of the other. And president obama himself, who believes those are too strenuous. If the wall street journal opinion page is any indication, theyre saying this morning this is a Promising Senate framework and it ought to be looked at very seriously. It will be interesting to see what the president says about another aspect of immigration, critical, when you think about it, a lot of people dont think about it. The guest worker aspect. Come into this country, work for a period of time and stay illegally. If they go back home, they cant come back in. Dealing with that is a critical component. Thats a part of it. This economy cannot function without people to do the jobs americans wont do. Quickly, with that said, we would be fooling ourselves this morning if we didnt look at this immigration debate and understand there might not be a tinge of the gun debate involved where you have people in new york and people in washington and people at the networks and National Newspapers all supporting this and even a lot of the leaders inside washington d. C. Where the rest of america is a bit more wary and skeptical. If you dont believe that, go to the conservative websites, the national review, go to several others. The wall street journal says it is a promising framework and i think it is. There are a lot of conservative outlets that have yet to weigh in on this aggressively. They will start that now. The phone calls will start the congressional offices and just like the gun debate, you will have people energized who want this bill killed and congress will get 101 calls against this immigration bill and they have to make this Decision Just like they have to make a decision on background checks, just like they have to make the decision on assault weapons and just like they have to make the decision on high capacity magazines. Do they want to speak to a certain constituency that will keep them in the Minority National party forever or do they want to take a step forward . Well see. Youre already starting to see the protests out of the house of representatives, where the real challenge is. Secretary of state Hillary Clinton getting quite the going away gift from the obama team. Josh green reporting a group of obama donors decided to pay off the remainder of her 2008 Campaign Debt that came to 250 grand as of last year. 120 different people cut checks to pay off those bills. Hillary Clintons Campaign, which was never officially shut down, now has a surplus of about 200,000 in the bank. Should clinton decide to run in 2016, theres already a super pac supporting her, ready for hillary, its called, already garnering nearly 50,000 twitter followers. Im sure Steve Rattner set up that account yesterday. Hes ready. Have you given money yet, Steve Rattner, to hillarys super pac . I have not. We would. My wife and i were her second biggest fundraisers in 2008 and were huge fans and she is certainly the elephant in the room when it comes to 2016. The measure of the super pacs strength now is it twitter followers. Who are those 50,000 people. We should ask you, steve, but your wife, maureen, is hillary going to run . What does maureen say . The honest answer is we dont know. I think when she gets some rest and sleeps off the last four years and looks around says inned, inned im still really energetic and strong and one of the most popular politicians in the country, hard that she doesnt give this more thought. What does joe biden say about this and something said about the president given a tacid endorse document Hillary Clinton as joe biden steamed somewhere in his office. He had to love that 60th minute interview. The reality is it depends on Hillary Clinton, if she decides in two years or four years time s shes had enough rest and comes to the realization she will never be a normal person who can walk down the street by herself. She will always be Hillary Clinton and why not throw her hat in the ring and not a private individual that can go for private life and may as well go for the presidency. If she makes that decision, joe biden has to back off. He wont be able to run if she is running. Hes in a difficult position and has to sit and wait while she takes the rest she needs to take after this grueling secretary of state and then decide does she want to go for the presidency without this Brutal Campaign she had to go through in 2008 because no serious democrat will run against her or feel she does want to take back as much of a private life she can do. Sam stein, we just have to remember back to 2006 and 2007, when Hillary Clinton was just as much the 800 pound elephant in the room, the giant that strode in, whatever you wanted to call it, she was the dominant force of the Democratic Party and nobody believed, myself included, that anybody could rise up to beat her. Nobody believed that. We will see that for the next couple of years. Are we making the same mistake we made before . It gives me cold sweats were talking 2016 at this juncture. Come on, sam. Hold on. Were not talking about 2016, were talking about 2013 and how joe biden moves Going Forward and what barack obama is doing. Barack obama and his administration are making decision decisions where to put him out there for reasons im not talking about 2016, this will shape the direction of the Democratic Party the next four years and shape the president s relationship with the Vice President. Everything comes out of the second a lame duck president is elected in 2012, everybody starts looking at 2016 in washington. This is not a parlor game. This affects what goes on in washington d. C. , what bills are passed, what alliances are made, how the city operates and functions over the next four years. This is why i think we will keep talking about this two years. The administration is invested in having biden still be perceived as a president ial possibility. It gives him more power, allows people to conceive of him as being someone of influence who will matter in a couple years time. As soon as it becomes clear, if it becomes clear joe biden will not be a candidate, he instantly loses that. Theyre invested in not having this conversation for a year. With respect to joes first question about hillary in 2006 and circa 2006 we all thought she was this unbeatable giant, i think theres the same probability of us ov overemphasizing her strengths here. You get a lot more sympathetic coverage youre secretary of state, youre traveling the world, you dont have to be at the epicenter of hot political debates over health care, deficit reduction and you dont have to take these positions. Shes benefitted from that. At the same time, she has an immense amount of experience that makes her an obvious candidate. She was taken down in 2006 and 28th not by a republican but barack obama. There is no barack obama at the moment. Lets not make too many assumptions. In 1992, nobody wanted to run against george bush in the primary because they thought he was unbeatable. I think somebody will take her hon on if she runs. I think the white house and biden has a confluence of interest and the white house doesnt want to see biden lose his stature and biden doesnt want to lose his stature. Biden wants to run and make himself president ial. I cant really look forward to 2016 because i cant even look past tomorrow. Tomorrows show, seriously, it is i always joke, its like night of the thousand stars. Look at this. Willie, look, the mt. Rushmore of whatever it is the mt. Rushmore of. Al gore and bill gates will be on tomorrow. Were looking forward to that. Also, coming up today, were talking to senators john mccain and Chuck Schumer about their proposals on Immigration Reform and whether they really think this time is different than last time and former Senate Majority leader, all around great guy, tom daschle and mike van deltei and bill karins will be here to tell us about their hunting trip. 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