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This weekend that injured nine people. So far two have been released from the hospital. Doctors say the prognosis for the remaining victims remains unclear. Nfl teams are on the clock. The draft beginning tonight right across the street from at 30 rock. The event is going to last three days. Experts expect a few surprises as any prodraft predictions could be misdirection. All right. Thats going to wrap up a thursday edition of way too early. Morning joe starts right now. I really have not talked to jeb about the presidency. Its hard for people to believe. I dont know. I could see you forgetting you were the president. I could see that. You were the president. Im pretty sure ive always been a painter. Pretty sure. Pretty sure ive always been a painter of cat and feet. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to morning joe. It is thursday, may 8th. With us on set we have the host of mad money, jim cramer. Its great to see you. Same. Its been awhile. Too long. You still mad . Oh, more than ever. Good. We love that. On the other side of the emotional spectrum, hes not mad never. Hes very passionate the host of Ronan Farrell daily, rona farrell. Mommy gave him the support system. You were a doter. Ive seen you two. Is there a thing here . Theres a thing. Its weird, but its a thing. Mother son. Wonderful boy. Mother son . So willie, i decided to change my plan. You know, weve been taking all the money we make here, right . And the coupons that phil gives us you know im not done introducing people. I know youre not. But i get little cesar coupons. By the way phil has given me a frequent flier thing. A card. Any Eastern Airline flight on the east coast, i can use it. Swipe it, go. He didnt have to do that. He didnt. But im investing now in tech stocks. Twitter. Wow. He just lurched. And i got this mutual fund this whole mutual fund. All new internet stocks. No, no. Say it aint so. With a bow on top. Is that bad . He put every cent he has in there. It is may of 2000. March was the peak and april was hideous. It feels like those not making money. What do you remember . Twitter. As i sink with twitter. Twitter is a company that we dont realize doesnt make any money. Its just a huge amount of fun. We all talk to each other on it like we do when we see each other except im not being paid to talk you. And you guys arent paying us to watch. Its just guys talking. Thats not the idea. Facebook makes a ton of money. Facebooks better. I dont need your details. Sorry. What is twitters plan to make money . Presumably it started out as something fun but they had an idea how to turn profit. Sponsored links. Maybe you go there. Click on something you dont want to click on, make a mistake, they get paid. I do that a lot. We have msnbc political analyst gene robinson. Hi, gene. Good morning. How you doing . Im not mad either. Youre never mad. Genes joyful. Sometimes im mad, but today im not. Well see if we can get you there today. Joe manages on occasion. And Jeremy Peters. Good to have you on board. Thank you. Okay. Republicans say their investigation into benghazi has nothing to do with politics. But theyre facing tough criticism. Republican congressman trey gowdy who is leading a select Committee Investigating the attack says it would be wrong to raise money off of benghazi. Heres what he said on morning joe yesterday. I have never sought to raise a single penny on the backs of four murdered americans. There are two still and even in a culture of hyperpartisanship, certain things that ought to be above politics like the murder of our four fellow americans. Well, he personally has not, i guess. Cant speak for the rest of his party. 30 minutes earlier the Republican Congressional Committee sent out this fund raising email. From a website called benghazi watch dogs. Com. The email lets recipients link to a page that asks for donations up to 500 and refers to them as benghazi watch dogs. Willie, we yesterday had trey here. He was passionate. We agreed with him. I was warning democrats or republicans dont need to politicize benghazi. Four americans dead. He comes out and says that and 30 minutes earlier his own party undercuts him and the credibility of his investigation by asking for 25 donations off of benghazi. Give me a break. Thats the problem right there. I thought yesterday trey gowdy was good on this show saying ill do everything i can to get to the truth and not make this a political exercise. But all it takes a one email like that to show the other side it is a political exercise. If they want to raise money off this issue. He said im not going to raise one nickel over dead americans. Then they did it yesterday. I dont know why Political Parties do this. Political parties do it. Its the republican parties now thats been caught doing it. I mean, they have undermined the credibility of this committee. They need to promise theyre not going to do it again over four dead americans with 25 donations. Give me a break. Its disgusting. It really is hideous. If republicans expect this investigation to be taken seriously at all and not seen as the most naked of political exercises to animate the Republican Base in advance of the election, you know, look. There are a lot of democrats out there today saying as they were yesterday that this is all political. That this has nothing to do with a search for the truth. That it has to do with a search for votes and contributions. And the party seems to be, you know, eager to give evidence that that position is right. So they better clean it up fast if they want to be taken seriously. John, why dont we reach out to trey gowdys office and see if theres anything they want to say during the course of this show in response. Im sure they will. He was very straightforward about where he stands. If i was him, i would be so pissed off. They really you know what . They really undercut his credibility. And with the number of hearings im sure theyre going to hear from him. He has to establish this is different if he wants to sell this to the public. Theyve turned out 25,000 documents. Theres been tens and tens of Committee Hearings and meetings. Theyve got to prove theres substance there. That undermines everything theyre doing. Dont you think, though, that in a sense if youre looking at this strictly politically the republicans would be foolish not to capitalize on this. With ive been to these town meetings across the country and benghazi comes up repeatedly. You cannot overstate how much this riles up the Republican Base. Ultimately thats whats happening here. Yeah. Trust me. This is this is an important issue for a lot of americans, but when the washington establishment seeks to exploit it for political purposes or democrats like to pretend that nothing went wrong there, then americans look at washington d. C. You know what . On either side. And if youre trying to fund raise 25 bucks off 4 dead americans, thats why americans hate the washington establishment. Absolutely. On both sides. Meanwhile, former secretary of state Hillary Clinton is weighing in on the new panel. She says its time for republicans to move on. There are a lot of reasons why despite all of the hearings, all of the information thats been provided some choose not to be satisfied and choose to continue to move forward. Thats their choice, and i do not believe there is any reason for it to continue in this way, but they get to call the shots in the congress. Well, of course thats what shed say. The white house in my opinion still stone walling. They hold back on important document where the white house ask coaching susan rice on what to say on the sunday morning talk shows. That began the center of this controversy. Of course Hillary Clinton would like them to move on. Theyre not moving on and they shouldnt until the white house cooperates. It is in her best interest to move on as well. Of course she wants it to move on. Shes at the center of all of this. She was at the center of the 3 00 a. M. Call. Yep. Perhaps there is no more vocal critic of mega donors Koch Brothers than harry reid. In a oneonone interview with chuck todd, reid clarified why hes going after the businessmen and not other big republican donors. It is the two richest people in the world. And they are in it to make money. Thats their whole goal here. Is they have zeros to their billions. And i dont think thats the case you dont think thats the case with adelson . I know Sheldon Adelson. Hes not in this for money. Hes got hes not in this to make money. Hes in it because he has certain certain ideological views. Now, Sheldon Adelson views are in keeping with the democrats. So adelson, dont pick on him. Hes not in it to make money. Hes not. By the way, we were just sitting here thinking i know. Its so laughable, gene. I read my forbes richest people in the world, theyre not the two richest people in the world, first of all. They are quite rich. Id like their money, dont get me wrong. But dont say theyre the two richest people in the world. I dont think thats the problem. Saying sheldon not in it for the money. But the headline in todays Washington Post, what does it say . It suggests that Sheldon Adelson is benefitting from his donations. He has donated to candidates around the country. Many are siding with him to try and outlaw Online Gambling. Adelson is, quote, playing three levels of chess. Even bringing on democratic strategists including former senator Blanche Lincoln of arkansas to beat back competitors pushing Online Gambling. You can see more of that interview with chuck when he joins us at the 7 00 hour. Genes still laughing. Its because he loves america and genes happy. Arent we shock snd were shocked, shocked, that billionaires would like to make more money. Shocked. And we think its fine that theyre giving lots of money to politicians so they can make more money. And advance their interest. Harry reid says hes doing it because he loves america. Well, you know, god bless him then. But he happens to live in the state of nevada, doesnt he . Oh, i never really put that together. Oh. Hold on. Hold on. Im connecting those dots right here. Okay. Thank you. Im always looking out for false equivalences. I think we buy into that too often. But heres a direct equivalent. Its absolutely true. Its just direct. Yeah. Theyre trying to make more money. Anyhow, dont get me started. Jeremy, harry reid is so obsessed with the Koch Brothers, theyre going to have to take out a restraining order pretty soon. But is this strategy working . Hes banging this drum every day. Is it working as we look at some of these races that come up in 14 . I guess well know when the democrats release their next round of fund raising numbers. Thats primarily what this is. Its a strategy to get democrats worked up about the involvement of these billionaires who could really with all of their money and all the spending theyre doing in races on advertising could tip the balance. You know, i think this works, this strategy of going after the Koch Brothers works where they have business interests. That happens to be in the most contested states with senate races. Alaska, north carolina, for example. Where i think it gets a little bit harder for the average voter to connect the dots is in other places where the kochs are just more of a name. And thats all. You saw the latest wall street journal nbc news poll that still half of americans dont know who they are. Thats consistent with a poll a few months prior to that. On the other happened, half americans know who they are. Quickly, jim cramer, tell us. Theres huge money in this. One of the funny things about what harry reid said, funny as in contemptuous, there is so much money involved in gambling, in casinos and this is as cut throat a business move. Fine, let him do it, show him adelson can do. Hes trying to kill Online Internet gambling across america. Its addictive. You dont need to go to the casino. Willie, you know this. I have always been against Online Internet gambling. Go ahead. The thing he has to worry about, he has to make sure that relations with china are good. His big Profit Center is not in this country. It is over as the gambling mecca. And he has done incredibly well. The internet gambling, look. Its easy to kill because all you got taught is be able to say younger people get in that shouldnt. Younger people can gam l. The statistics on addiction is major. Online gambling is a horrible idea. Horrible. And ive seen it first hand with a lot of people. Again, just theres tons of money involved in this. When harry reid says that Sheldon Adelson is doing it because he loves america and has nothing to do with making money. The share will get hit if it takes off. And get hit if china cuts off the cap. Heres the problem. When you have that kind of a wallet, you can change the law on goomabling. If you go down the list. Harry reid has that obsession with the Koch Brothers. We also see it as a bigger problem. Its on both sides. Moneys taking over politicians. Its not speech. And to the extent it is speech, it needs to be much more regulated. If all those people you named could only be in it for the same reasons sheldons in it for. Wed be a better koun troy. See the flags behind me, i love america too. In case anybody didnt know. Okay right here. One more big story before we go to break. First Lady Michelle obama is lending her voice to an International Push to rescue nearly 300 school girls kidnapped by terrorists in nigeria. She tweeted this photo and the message its time to bring back our girls. The Islamist Militant Group behind the abduction is being blamed for more violence. Officials say hundreds of people were killed when gunmen attacked a village near the border with cameroon. Militants reportedly opened fire at a crowded market on monday before setting fire to neighboring homes. Survivors say the massacre lasted for hours. The village was apparently used by troops in their search for the missing girls. Police were offering a 300,000 reward for information that helps find the young captives. The girls were kidnapped three weeks ago and the terror group is threatening to sell them into slavery. The incident has sparked outrage across the world. Former secretary of state Hillary Clinton spoke about the kidnappings criticizing nigerias government. The seizure of these young women by this radical Extremist Group boko haram is abominable, critical, its an act of terrorism, and it really merits the fullest response possible first and foremost from the government of nigeria. The government of nigeria has been, in my view, somewhat derelict in its responsibility towards protecting boys and girls, men and women in Northern Nigeria over the last years. Pretty tough there on the nigerian government. There was an ap account written up yesterday that gave basically a blow by blow of what happened during the kidnapping. There was a call from the school. They had lead time. Someone tipped them off by two hours these guys were coming. They called the nearby military barracks, no help came. These guys were able to flee into the vast park where they are now. What can the United States be doing beyond what weve done so far which is to send support . I think that Technical Support team will help a lot. Its the help they need. But it reveals a larger problem. African terrorism is on the rise. It is attacks by al shabab, al qaeda affiliates. I think this Technical Support team needs to be the kind of support we have in place in general. The United States . Absolutely. African is predicting this is the next front in the war on terror for a long time. We just havent done enough. Gene . I think its kind of a mistake to see boko haram as a pure terror group. In fact, its more of a criminal enterprise. What were talking about here, i think, at base is Human Trafficking which has been going on in that region, in that part of nigeria for a long time. The borders are for porous. They kidnap the wrong set of girls with the wrong set of parents this time. And they happen to get this bring back our girls to trend and catch fire and drew the worlds attention. You know, this is a group yes, it has now the islam iic ideology, but theyve been disowned by al qaeda. Saying, jeez, these guys are crazy. They dont want anything to do with this. This is also just criminality that the nigerian government, frankly, if not complicit has been at least willing to ignore whats been going on. And former secretary clinton is right. They should be held to account for that. Gene, thank you. Still ahead on morning joe, congressman Elijah Cummings who says congress holding lois lerner in contempt is a throwback to the mccarthy era. He joins us on the 7 00 hour. Plus tonight is the start of the nfl draft. Its our chance to bring in former nfl coach jon gruden. You know what . Us doing that, im sorry what . Thats a throwback to the mccarthy era. Next youre going to tell me we have donny osmond. Oh, we have donny osmond. Seriously . Hes a little bit country. So he wasnt talking about the 68 election . No. Were going joe. Up next, Michele Bachmann takes a strong stance against womens history. Her reason in our morning papers. Mike allens here. Hes got the politico playbook. But first heres bill kairns and a throwback to mccarthyism checking our forecast. Bill, this rain this rain, sir, is unamerican. Sir. Sir. It is. Maybe well have congressional panels on that shortly. The rain going on in new york also back through areas of pennsylvania. Its all kind of associated with what happened yesterday in the Central Plains. Five tornadoes were report

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