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MSNBCW Morning Joe October 8, 2014 10:00:00

Panic. Well, good morning. Its wednesday, october 8th, everybody. The mighty fall the angels have the best record in the American League, theyre out. Nationals have the best record in the National Leak. Theyre out. A lot of depressed people in walk for good people. The naatitude. What a disappointment. To do it with bases loaded. A wild pitch a. Killer. Now you move on. You have the giants playing the cardinals. Cardinals meet the dodgers last night. Isnt that something . What an organization they have. I never seen anything like it. The red sox, obviously, theyve had their successes. These cardinals have been better than anybody. They find themselves back fourth year in a row t. Cardinals taking on the giants. Now the orioles on the other side. With the royals, three or four very interesting teams. How many people said abetter pujols went to california st. Louis was done for . The this organization keeps coming at you. Its the best organization in baseball. Its got to be. They keep coming at you. Albert pujols, he is sitting at home t. Cardinals are going to the playoffs. You know, meika, the quote on a lot of different things, napoleon, when he said, if you will take vienna, take vienna. He has given me that advice. Vienna is one place east of paris. But we are involved in a war against the most radical form of extremism in syria and iraq. If we are at war, then we have to win. Hows winning going to be defined . Well, in this case like in world war ii, its simple. Evil has to lose. Right now, its on the march. Right now the beheadings continue. Right now, towns and cities continue to fall and right now the terrorist spreads. Like the American People, you know, i have been supporting the president s steady approach to this war. Now that we are there, its time the commanderinchief tears a page out of collin powells handbook. As a former secretary of state and chairman of the joint chiefs said, when we go to war, we dont want a fair fight. Our military commanders should be allowed to throw everything we Vice President at the enemy. Destroy their warmaking machine. Bring their sons and daughters home as fast as possible. You will learn today, thats not happening in iran and syria. Instead, we have a president accused too much of the hand winging of domestic policy. Now as commanderinchief, like solomon, seeming intent on the baby. This wont do. Our weakness, Islamic Radical strength. We are at war. Its time we start acting like we are at war. If you want to take vienna, take vienna. If he is not willing to do that. He is willing to give the commanders what they need to get the job done. Tell us, bring our sons and daughters home today. Stop spending billions and billions of dollars targeting pickup trucks. Because we will find out, lisa meyers is back. She has a heck of an investigation on exactly how ineffective this war is. We will have reports throughout the three hours about how isis is on the march. You make this point as another syrian city is about to fall. So well pick things up right now where joe left off. In just a few hours, president obama will meet with top pentagon and National Security officials about the threat from Islamic State militants. It comes as turkeys president warns the syrian city of kobani is about to fall to isis. If that happens the militants would control a large area. Kurdsish forces are engaged in heavy fighting with Islamic State militants the city is seeing the most extensive airstrikes yet meanwhile, u. S. Officials say they are outraged, turkey is refusing to commit. Turkeys inaction led to heated demonstration in that country. 14 people are dead after clashes between police and protesters. Willie, why dont we arm the kurds and let the kurd take care of it . Someone need to explain to us, the thinking behind turkey not entering this fight. Isis is now six miles from the border of turkey. The isis flag flies over many buildings in kobani. Still turkey refuses to join the fight. Unbelievable. We will, of course, come back to this. Vikings quarterback Adrian Peterson, a spokes woman says the football star will definitely plead not guilty to charges of reckless or negligent injury to a child. They say the defense will push for a speedy trial date. Petersons defense team wants it resolved as soon as possible so he could resume playing if he is exonerated. Meanwhile, the tribune says money failed to go to the intended recipients and one of its credit cards paid for a hotel room used for an orgy. Thats not good. No, its not. You dont use Charity Money that way. The Corporate Card for an orgy. We actually have that chiselled in stone. Im so glad. You have to draw the lean somewhere. It seems like an orgy is the place to draw the line. A story on twitter adding quote i guess never let the truth get in the way of a good story. Oh. Oka okay. An indiana man is suing the local. I dont think you have seen this. Suing a local Police Department for excessive force, false arrest and battery following an incident late last month. The man was riding in a car with his girlfriend and two children when they were pulled over. The officers asked him to show identification and then appeared to draw their guns and order him out of the car t. Female driver calls 911 and the teenager hits record on his cell phone camera and catches it all. Now theyre asking me to open my door so i can get out. Im scared. If you can pull out a gun in front of two kids in the back seat. No, now theyre about to. Im not the operator of this vehicle. If you do that, im not the operation of this vehicle. Are you going to open the door . Why do you say people are not going to hurt you . People are getting shot by the police. Oh, ah. Oh, man. Get on the ground. Thats horrible. This is a horrible thing. Its very important that we say to you that police from the reports, dan, lets get this right, how long had the police been asking them to get out of the car . At least 13 minutes. So the policeman asked them to get out of the car at least 13 minutes. Thats still extraordinarily excessive force. He was reaching in the back. So. If are you a cop. It looks awful. It does look awful. But 13 minutes theyre asking them to open the door. They need to wear cameras, which is something you brought up. You got to see the different angles of the story. Again, i would like to know why they didnt open the doors. I would, too. For 13 minutes at least. Just open the door. Again the reason i keep asking this question is because we have a responsibility to ask that question. We just showed the final few seconds of 13 minutes of the cop saying please open the door. So i understand that. The official statement from the police reads in part quote Police Officers who make legal traffic stops are allowed to request passengers to exit a stopped vehicle for the officers safety without a requirement of reasonable suspicious i suspicion. When the passenger displayed movements inside of the stopped vehicle, that included placing his hand in places where the officer could not see, officers concerns for their safety were heightened. So let me say one final thing quickly. I constantly talk about how the white kids would not be treated the same in certain circumstances or whites would not be treated the same as black adults in certain circumstances, im not sure in this case. If my son had three of his friends refuse to open the car door for 13, 14 minutes and they made movements that caused concern to the cops, im not so sure the cops wouldnt break opened the glass you know what, we ought to figure out what the prop what they should have done in this case. It looks horrible. We will wait for more to come out. I worry about commenting on one angle. I worry about the dashcam video. There was a traffic stop. Did they see children were there in the car . It doesnt look good from this angle yeah. The movement. You see in the car . Do they know there is a gun inside the car . Okay. I gave him my information. Im saying. I gave both them. You all got my information, righ right . If you are going to give me a ticket. They did give me a ticket. That went on for 13 minutes. Let me get one more story n. We will go back to isis. Jennifer lawrence is speaking out about the photo hacking scandal for the first time in the new issue of vanity fair. She says its not a scandal. Its a sex crime. A sexual violation, its disgusting. The law needs to be changed. We need to change. She says because im a public physical or actress does not moon i asked for this. It does not mean it comes with the territory. I cant believe we even live in that kind of world. Lawrence was one of several actresses who had personal Photos Leaked online. Rihanna, kate upton, selena gomez and kim cash dashian. My grandma would say, if you dont want people to see your ass, then dont show your ass. She didnt say that . Im saying, if you take this to a bigger thing. They were private pictures between private people. I wouldnt trust technology. Its terrible. Im telling you what my grandma would have said to me. You have nothing to worry about to be clear in terms of leaked photos. Just me eating a lot of cheese in a dress and stockings, other than that. Sort of ruling guiliani sir ka, whatever, i get those. Remember that. There was actually the orgy that was paid for on Adrian Petersons credit card. You were there . Well a friend of mine was there, an associatech isnt it funny how these two stories have come back together. You guys look alike. It was my i vel twin brother skippy. Word about him in doonsbury. Can we get back to our top story, please . Yes. Now back to our top story t. Rise of isis in the middle east. Joining us from capitol hill. We have bbc correspondent, give us a sense of how imminent this is. Talk about turkey, willie was saying earlier, turkeys continued refusal to get involved. Sure. Let me first bring you up to date with the latest from this morning. We have colleagues on the outskirts of town watching what is going on. Theyre reporting the Coalition Airstrikes that have taken place over the last few days have helped stem the advance of isis but the threat no ought over ked yet t. Kurds are fighting back quite hard they are being held by the Coalition Airstrikes. There are reports of five already this morning. So there is having an impact but as i said this is not over yet. The threat is still there with. When it comes to turkey. We have been saying this already quite a few times. Every time we talk about isis. There are a lot of conflicting agendas in this coalition. Not only do the turks want us to focus on assad instead of only focusing on isis. But they have their own domestic politics they have to worry about. Everybody has domestic politics and for the turks, its the kurdish separatist ambitions. Theyre very worried about the group that is fighting in that county. They are worried about the kurds fighting there they are worried this will give them that in turkey. At this point shouldnt turkey be worried about itself when you have isis that close to turkeys border, shouldnt the politics internally and the United States be pushed to the side in the name of selfdefense, if for nothing else . Well, you would think so. We have heard from the turkish president minster eduan who said in his view isis and the pkk are almost equal ly bad and for turkeys domestic politics, it has quite large imlicks if this group does get empowered. It is a tricky situation. Thanks very much. We have a lot more on this story with Jeffrey Goldberg and Investigative Reporter lisa meyers coming up. Also ahead, former wesley clark, house whip steve socalise scalise. Well till why hairgate, iphone 6 owners are voicing new concerns and Vladmir Putin is turning 62. Moscow is giving the birthday boy a special tribute. Loshd, what would happen if they didnt. Well show you that next on morning joe. 21. Could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement . I dont think so. Well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years, that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all. When laquinta. Com sends him a ready for you alert the second his room is ready, ya know what salesman alan ames becomes . I think the numbers speak for themselves. Im sold a selling machine ready r you alert, only at lq. Com. Hey there, i just got my bill, and i see that it includes my fico® credit score. Yup, you get it free each month to help you avoid surprises with your credit. Good. I hate surprises. Surprise at discover, we treat you like youd treat you. Get the it card and see your fico® credit score. Okay. Just got off the phone with Adrian Peterson, he says, he wasnt at that orgy. I think he has to give money to Doctors Without Borders. In other direction. We had all these. Whats that . Medical gore. It was great. Anyway. Whats up . Its time now for the morning papers. What are you talking about . I asked if you are medicating . Yes, i did. I wish i had. Usa today the average Life Expectancy for an american is 78. 8 years a. Record high Life Expectancy. Usa. Slightly higher at 81. 2 years compared with 76. 4 years. Why do you think that is . Why do women live longer than men . Smarter. A little more self sufficient. Ablown to that. Scientists sa i the difference between genders may stem from behavioral choices as men tend to engage in more ricky behavior than women. What are they talking about . Risk . I dont know what that means, Charity Funded orgies maybe. Thats not risky. Walmart plans benefits for some parttimers. Beginning next year, walmart will no longer provide coverage to employees who work less than 30 hours a week. This will wage affect 30,000 workers, about 5 of the work force. Target and home depot recently made similar decisions. Berkeley, california has become the latest battleground on sugary drinks. So far, they are trying to defeat the proposal. Law makers in berkeley are optimistic the measure will pass. The issue goes before voters in november. First it was bendgate. Now its hairgate. Why . The latest woe says following social media backlash over the report that the phone bends, some users are saying it pulls out their hair or their beards within they make phone calls. Wow. We are getting whiney. You spends 8,000 for a telephone. How does that happen . It gets caught in the seam where the alluminum meets the glass. A little opening in there. What are you doing with your phone for that to happen . Its weird. Scratching. I just want to know if it works, if it doesnt break. Im going to try the bigger one. Are they 20something people . I dont have the data. All right t. Wall street journal, Vladmir Putin is celebrating his 62nd birthday and, of course, its quite a scene. One day Art Exhibition in moscow called the 12 labours to face the russian president as sick. This man is not right. Why is he choking Franco Harris . What is going on . Is he not a steelers fan. Putin is seen fighting a terrorist. Another features him grappling with the multiheaded monster of western sanctions. Oh, wow. He is seen as the protector of syria from american warplanes and as the hero of the Winter Olympics in sochi. Why did we do that . Thank you. He is shown riding in. Hold on. No, i want to see the ox. Wrestling a is that a kangaroo that was checking yesterday . Wow, okay. He is seen riding an ox to symbolize the brick away from crimea from ukraine. Finally as the overseeer of russian oil power across the european continent. What is wrong with him . What is wrong with him . I dont know. Lets go back to Franco Harris picture. Coming up its really disturbing. Hes disturbed. A disturbed man with about 54 billion in his pocket. Kurdish fighters. There is Franco Harris. Pulled isis militants from taking over a key city on the turkish sillian border. 5,000 civilians could be slaughtered. We have the effectiveness or lack thereof of u. S. Airstrikes from stopping the attack. Plus the must read opinion passenger. Well be right back with mu much more morning joe. The most amazing thing about the ford fusion isnt the way it looks. The most amazing thing . Is the way it sees. With blind spot technology, a lanekeeping system and a standard rearview camera, the fusion is ready for whatever comes your way. Go prepared. Go further. I lochecked bag. 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Joinering us for the must read opinion pages, mike barnacle. We will start with the Washington Post editorial board, which writes a faulty u. S. Air campaign. Two months after the United States airstrikes, forces are still advancing. The enemy victory suggests the u. S. Air campaign is failing to achieve the expansion of islamic state, much less degrading and destroying it. For now, the operation in iraq and syria is defined mainly by its limitations. The restrictions on his commanders are not combatible with the objectives he has asked

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