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Morning joe. A florida judge is set to sentence the man convicted in the murder of jordan davis after an argument over loud music. First degree murder carries a mandatory life sentence. And the candidates for wisconsin governor incumbent republican scott walker and sco and the democratic challenger will spend their friday night in a debate. Well see if fan turns up. That will do it for way too early. Happy friday. What friday is it. Payday friday. We can pay our mortgages. Morning joe starts right now. Travis hits one into right the giants win the pennant the giants win the pennant the giants win the pennant baseball fans will remember 1951, thompsons famous shot that sent the new york giants to the pennant. Last night, late last night it was the giants going to the series and a similar blast, unbelievable story, sam stein, whether you like the giants or not. What a great story. What a great world series we have coming up. Amazing world series. Probably not going to be the most watched world series, not the two biggest media markets. These are two scrappy teams. The kansas city royals, they run a lot. They have an amazing bullpen. The giants, every two years seems like they are juggernauts. Two teams on a hot streak. Should be a lot of fun. Mika, obviously, so much to be covering this morning. The stories continue to break out on ebola, and the poor response from International Health organizations, American Health organizations and a bumbling response from an administration who for years has been telling us come on, stop panicking, no panic, no drama. There are times, there are times where you should actually allow a little bit of drama to be inserted into the way you handle things. The urgency should play to more things than just get elected. The fierce urgency now applies to this terrible situation and this story. Well, theres talk of a czar now. We have engineer me peters, carroll leigh and sam stein. Were in washington. Lawmakers are increasing their pressure for travel bans amid growing questions about the governments response to ebola. Members of both parties grilled cdc director Thomas Frieden and other Top Health Officials at a congressional hearing on thursday. Frieden says he remains confident there will not be a large scale outbreak in the u. S. But Congress Still had plenty of questions about why the government is allowing in people from the ebola affected regions. We do not have to leave the door open to all travel to and from hot zones in western africa while ebola is an unwelcomed and dangerous stowaway on these flights. Why are we allowing folks to come over here. I dont understand. If we have a system in place that requires any Airline Passenger from coming in overseas with a date of birth to make sure they are not on the antiterrorist list we cant look at one as travel history and say no youre not coming here. Not until this situation, youre right, it needs to be solved in africa, but until it we shouldnt allow these folks in. Perhaps this committee should consider forwarding to the full house a request we have a vote on travel restriction because people are asking us to do that and they are exactly correct to make that request. So if i remember correctly, joe, a couple of weeks back on meet the press and other places you were labelled a fear monger to raise this. Now were hearing this from both sides of the aisle. Its interesting three weeks ago when i was on meet the press i was mocked andry die culled, called dr. Scarborough for quoting a the Washington Post sunday morning article and bringing up three points. And the first point was that the World Health Organization had bumbled this all along. So when everybody was saying on that panel and quite frankly a lot of official washington was saying no, we should just trust Health Care Organizations and why are we panicking. Somehow asking tough questions about the leadership in the World Health Organization and the cdc was akin to trying to stir up panic. I dont know if thats Political Correctness, i dont know if maybe thats some liberals naturally respond that way if you ask tough questions, if you act like a journalist and ask tough questions of health organizes that youre somehow fanning the flames. Ive got to say ive been saying Something Else for three weeks consistently and that is there should be travel restrictions in place, the same types that worked in sierra leone. And i said there shouldnt be travel restrictions then give us a good reason why we shouldnt allow 70 to 100 people from infected countries to come in to jfk every day. Every day. The cdc cannot give us a good answer. Oh, that will stop us from being able to have relief efforts. No it wont. As fred upton said in the committee. You have a nofly list, actually, for terrorists. You can have a fly list for Health Care Workers. They cant answer basic questions and three weeks into this, im stunned. Im also stunned by people that are still saying oh, youre trying to stir up panic by simply asking tough questions that everybody should have started asking when i started asking them three weeks ago. While other members push back against a travel ban nearly 60 representatives and 11 senators support the idea right now. Chicagos ohare and Hartsfield Jackson International Airport in atlanta are airports conducting enhanced screenings on passengers for ebola. President obama says he does not believe travel restrictions are the way to go but hes considering an ebola czar to oversee the federal response to the crisis. I dont have a philosophical objection to a travel ban, necessarily, if thats the thing that will keep the American People safe. The problem is that in all the discussions ive had thus far with experts in the field, experts in Infectious Disease is that a travel ban is less effective than the measures that we are currently instituting. So, mika, this is not sort of a one on one disease. Theres a multiplier. If one can conquer ten, two can conquer 10,000. In this case, i may not have had those biblical numbers right dont send me an email. But in this case, you brought it up yesterday. Because one man was allowed to come in to the United States with ebola, one man. We now have cruise ships that have people quarantined on them this morning. We have flights that have caused concerns. We, of course, have seen whats happened with the Health Care Workers in dallas who are spread out. And one concern after another. Again, it has a Multiplier Effect. Let us hope six months from now we look back on this the same way we look back on other things and its taken care of. But time runs out on these sort of diseases because there is the Multiplier Effect and, again, when you have a pathogen that lie question ifkwi liquefies your internal organs its okay to be concerned upfront. It started with one patient. One patient who came in and created now what is literally something the president may have to appoint a czar for. The first person to be infected with the ebola virus in the u. S. Is in a new hospital. Nina pham arrived in maryland last night to be treated at a stateoftheart facility run by the National Institutes of health. She appears to be in good spirits in a video shot at the dallas hospital earlier. Meanwhile the fiancee of Thomas Eric Duncan said a top official from texas Presbyterian Hospital apologized for how his case was handled. Theres a claim that the hospital had an ebola machine used by the military in west africa when duncan arrived you can make a diagnosis within an hour. Fda guidelines prevented the facility from using it. Fda has not yet responded. Wow officials monitor other nurses who cared for duncan, the new site mashable reports four u. S. Hospitals designed to treat patients with ebola can only care for a total of nine patients at a time. Joining us now from the National Institute of health, wrc reporter meagan mcgrath. Meagan . Reporter nina pham was brought here to nih, National Institutes of health a little before midnight last night and said to be in good condition, stable condition and in goat spirits. Now pham was flown from texas to maryland in a special charter plane. She was flown to fredrick Municipal Airport so she was not flown to any of the commercial airports in our area. She was wearing a special protective suit. She could be seen walking off the plane holding the hand of an escort. She walked off the plane under her own steam. She got in a waiting ambulance. She was driven through the streets in our area, motorcade brought to nih in bethesda. Shes been taken to the special studies unit. A specialized isolation unit. Its episcopalian kwipd to deal with Infectious Diseases like ebola. It has space for two patients. Shes being attended to toby dr. Anthony fauci. Dr. Fauci said its too early to say what her course of treatment will be. Its unclear whether or not she will be given any experimental drugs or not. Just too early to tell. Meagan, thank you. The head of the Republican Committee trying to retake the senate is vowing victory and in purple colorado there are signs it could be headed that way. Congressmen cory gardner leads mark udall by six points according to a poll from Quinnipiac University but in virginia ed gillispies attempt to unseat mark warner appears to be sputtering. The former Romney Adviser has gone dark with no more ads booked but that could change. Gillispie has been down double digits. Chris christie spent thursday in georgia with republican incumbent where the governors race is in a dead heat. Dr. Jill biden heads there today for michele nunn. And the campaigner in chief bill clinton will hold yet another rally in arkansas this weekend. This time in his home town of hope. But last night he was in New Hampshire for incumbent senator jean shaheen arguing against trickle down economics and reflecting on his role for democrats. Sometimes people i feel like an old racehorse. Joe, i wonder also just looking ahead to the midterms if ebola will play a role if theres a real republican sweep . I think confidence play as role. Obviously a lot of questions about fortunates handling on isis, the president s handling on ebola. I dont think people will go in and say how is he responding in syria right now thats how ill vote for my congressman or senator. But theres no doubt im hearing from democrats across the country that they have seen over the past several days on the campaign trail real concern. You can kind of site. Ill give josh talking points memo a plug. He has an amazing app called poll tracker. You go down and see a lot of these races that they seem to be most of them still in the margin of error but a lot of them breaking the republicans way. The Louisiana Senate up by four. Im reading from the poll tracker. Arkansas, cotton up by four. Shaheen still tight in New Hampshire. Joni ernst up by three in iowa. Scott walker by one in wisconsin. Same in alaska, sullivan up by three. There are exceptions, though. In North Carolina, kay hagan continues to hold on. But the most remarkable thing, mika, all of these races, almost all of them seem to be within the margin of error and how the white house is seen responding over the next week or so, two weeks over this ebola crisis, could have an impact, maybe one percentage point but in a lot of real estates one percentage point is enough. Sam, go ahead. These races have been sort of stubbornly close the entire cycle. Obviously some late breaks for republicans in some of these critical states. The one sort of weird bright star for the democrats at this juncture is georgia where michele nunn has had a lot of momentum in part because of David Perdues history or allegations of outsourcing. But i agree with joe. The perception of president ial leadership or lack thereof could play an obvious role down the stretch. These are critical few weeks. You dont want to make, necessarily see the ebola crisis be brought into the context of campaign politics, but it does get brought in. It could be a huge issue for republicans. Absolutely. The whole issue whether you close access to the u. S. In the sense of having these individuals who could potentially carry the ebola virus be checked there as opposed to here matters and it will matter to a lot of folks going the poll. Its an unequivocal move. They were saying a few days ago they couldnt do a ban because it would stop Health Care Workers getting access to get into west africa. Yesterday you saw the press secretary and president shift that a little bit and instead say it would make things more dangerous for people if they did a flight ban because they couldnt track passengers in the same way and screen them and people might fly to another country and go under the radar and then fly into the u. S. Carol, i heard that. What mika, whats remarkable to me is they act as if somebody can sneak into america by flying through denmark first. They still have to show their passport at the airport when they get to jfk or to dulles. Its remarkable there is that. That doesnt hold water either. They need to come up with a good excuse. Carol is exactly right. They changed their logic, mika, but its still dumb logic. I dont get it. Again, we can track terrorists, we certainly can track people from their country of origin even if they go through denmark and then take a boat over to nova scotia and then hitchhike to montreal and then try to get in through that. Sheer stupidity. No matter how many places you go you got to end up showing your passport. He doesnt trust government. No. I just want, jeremy, a logical explanation. And they change stories and it doesnt work. I dont think i do think thats part of the problem is nobody has really thought out or plotted out what this travel ban would look like. How you could implement it without making Health Workers not subject to it, getting supplies over there that need to be brought over there. Its very complicated. I will say one issue thats come up recently thats being floated news republic had a really interesting article written by an Infectious Disease specialist advocating for are a quarantine which would be it wouldnt be as abrupt as cutting travel off from all these countries but quarantining people and checking them, making sure they dont have the disease. Well, joe . Mika, i want to be really clear here because there are a lot of dumb people in their mothers basement eating cheetohs blowing igging. If a quarantine is a bad idea thats awesome. I just want somebody to give me a logical reason why we dont severely limit people from these countries. I am not advocating a quarantine. I am just asking okay take a crack sam because you tried last week and you were wrong. Terrible. Go ahead. All right. Go, sam. The nexus of the problem with ebola is not in america its in west africa. Until you get the situation in west africa under control we will never be actually out of the woods with respect to ebola. So when you look at a travel ban you have to look at it holistically. What does it mean for america and west africa. Basically every Health Official maybe with a few exceptions said if you do a travel ban it may, in fact, help america but make the situation in west africa a whole lot more complex and a whole lot worse. If you do a travel ban in that country people in that country will panic. There will be political panic, there will be social panic. In addition people in that country will still try to get out of that country even though theres a travel ban. You can prevent them from trying to get out of the country even if do you have a travel ban. Then it becomes a question say somebody with ebola got out of the country and went to europe and we stopped them in europe. We still then have to trace who their contacts were up to that point and if you have a travel ban, if they were going underground its harder to trace their contabts. You might help the situation in america but the situation in west africa is exacerbated and made worse. Sam, i want to thank you i tried my best. You tried your best. At the end of the day you were the poor st. Louis cardinal pitcher that threw a fat pitch down the middle that i will take out of the park. Mika, youll remember in the past three weeks, youll recall i said we needed to do two things at once. We need to limit travel here. At the same time we need to send a strong message to west africa and i chided conservatives on this, this is not a west africa crisis, this is an International Crisis and the United States of america remains the indispensable country and we need to go in there and throw ourselves at it and declare war on ebola. That will prevent panic when they see were not going in a half ass way were throwing everything we have at ebola. As far as tracing people through europe, were pretty good at that. Were pretty good at tracing terrorists. I think we can trace six civilians that are trying to get into the United States. Intercept them and then do everything we can to help them. It has to be a two tiered approach. Yes stop the flights or stop the travel from over here or restrict it as much as possible. At the same time, double, triple our efforts in west africa and yes spend a lot of money, a lot of taxpayer money if we have to the make sure that this disease is stamped out in west africa and across the world. Were wasting time. Were losing time. Joe, im getting emails and texts as we

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