Good morning. It is friday, october 24th and look its dark in times square. Those days are come, cold rainey fall days. Welcome to morning joe. With us on set we have chairman of deutsche incorporated and nicholas. The kids call him nicki c. Young lashing kent. Nicki c. All right. So we got some news here. Were talking about political news. A serious situation obviously in new york, but if they got it controlled, like if everything has been handled correctly shouldnt be too much of a problem. One question about the process, but it did go as it was supposed to go as they said it would. Well start in new york city where a doctor who recently returned from west africa has tested positively for the ebola virus. At this hour dr. Craig spencer is being treated at bellevue hospital. Hes the fourth case diagnosed in the u. S. And first outside of texas. Dr. Spencer an emergency room doctor who was working in guinea for the Group Doctors without border. He returned to the u. S. On october 17th. Officials say he did not return to work but within the past couple of days he did ride the subway and take a taxi to go bowling. Spencer was rushed to the hospital yesterday afternoon after he report ad 103 degree
fever and felt nauseous. Unless he threw up or somebody was in direct contact with his bodily fluids experts say hes in no danger of infecting people by using public transport. Experts have been wrong so many times you might hear that and say gee you know what they are trying to keep everybody calm. Look at the dallas situation. In the dallas situation the people that were in could be tact with duncan, mr. Duncan early on the first time with 103 fever, nobody got infected. Thats where we are right now. It wasnt until went back in three days later the situation was much worse and he was really symptomatic in the advance stages. Thats when this just explodes. They really still dont know exactly what safe guards to put in place. The medical workers. Somebody says oh, my god i may have been in the same Bowling Alley with him or oh, my god i
might have been in the subway, if you look what happened in dallas and look whats happening now there really is i have said theres a reason to be concerned. In this case, theres absolutely no reason for somebody to be panicked because they were within three blocks of the Bowling Alley. One question about the process. Hes in isolation at the hospital, dr. Spencers fiancee is being quarantined. A team of disease detectives is tracing with whom he may have had close contact, adding that the city is fully prepared. There is no reason for new yorkers to be alarmed. New yorkers who have not been exposed to an infected persons bodily fluids are not at all at risk. We want to emphasize in new york city has the worlds strongest Public Health system, the worlds leading medical experts and the worlds most advanced medical equipment. We are as ready as one could
be for this circumstance. What happened in dallas was actually the exact opposite. Dallas, unfortunately, was caught before they could really prepare, before they really knew what they were dealing with in dallas, and we had the advantage of learning from the dallas experience. Press conference last night was at bellevue hospital. Lets go there now. Kristen dahlgren is there now. This is the place they said patients would go even if they came in from africa and landed at jfk and they would go to bellevue. They were prepared for this it appears. Reporter yeah. Good morning, willie. They had plans in place for months now. One of the first things that cdc team that is here is going to be doing is double checking, making
sure that all the protection and protocols are in place and this get to joes point about the Health Care Workers. In dallas it was the nurses treating Thomas Eric Duncan who were infected with ebola. So the cdc team really going to be making sure that all of the Health Care Workers here are taken care of. Now, his fiancee, dr. Spencers fiancee also here at bellevue. Shes in quarantine. Two friends were told they would have toys late. Not clear if its here or in their homes. That cdc team will be tracing the other moments. Just double checking, making sure they have been talking to dr. Spencer. They are also going to look at his credit card to see where those may have been used and his metro card to see if there were any other trains that he was on. Tracing his steps after he got back from guinea until he finally reported that fever and came into the hospital here. Now there was a plan in place to get him to the hospital from
bellevue. So that shows you they were prepared for this. The workers that went out there with the ambulance wearing full protective gear. The cdc said he followed all the protocols, finally reported that fever as soon as he saw that spike and so farther confident. They say they are close to nil chances that anyone else who was in casual contact would get this. Kristen dahlgren, thanks. Bellevue hospital about 23 blocks from us. A stones throw. If you got a strong arm you can throw peanuts. Like an International Space station hook up. Joining us need to know medical correspondent for pbs, dr. Emily senay. Emily, im going to go backwards and ask you when people come
from west africa especially doctors treating ebola patients, wouldnt a good first step be to take a week of isolation and take your temperature before you actually mix with the public . Well, yes. I think thats exactly what he did. He was taking his temperature twice a day. Thats what the news reports have said and thats what the he didnt isolate which is not the rule. Im wondering if thats an added measure. Theres middle ground. Fein you dont isolate, dont go to Bowling Alleys and stick your fingers in a lot of bowling balls. Also dont ride subways, you know. There are you know middle steps. But, you know, you dont want him to be the boy in the plastic bubble but dont hang out in Public Places. Should there be rules in place, dont you think . At this moment it would make us
have less questions about who might have been exposed. Sure. He was not working. He wasnt seeing patients. As i understand it, the number of contacts he had was very very small. Now having the concern that people have about this and until we get more comfortable with the new normal, because i think this is the new normal, as long as were going to have the problem in west africa this is going to be what were confronting, how frequently i dont know. So, you know, that is up for discussion. But the science is very clear. You really cant spread this disease around until youre very, very sick. Chances are good. Thats what we were saying, doctor. Chances are at this point, i mean he didnt spread the disease around. And the last thing we want to do is punish people that actually go to west africa absolutely right. They are soldiers in the front line war against a
terrible disease. Im wondering whether we dont put in are more of a process. Protocols even for people returning. There are protocols and i believe he followed those protocols. You know, im anxious for the story to shift to west africa so we can all begin to understand better the challenges there and how intersects with whats happening here. I think thats the part of the story that maybe we should begin to focus on. I think im very confident that bellevue has this under control. They have been as many of the hospitals if not every hospital in new york state has been practicing and training. They doubled down after dallas. So im not worried about this doctor. Hes going to be okay. And im anxious for his speedy recovery. But we got to Start Talking about west africa. No doubt about it. Thank you, doctor. Emily senay. Lets turn to midterm politics. This midterm. Oh, my gosh. This is the craziest midterm. You have been covering politics for one and a half years. But ive been doing this since 1927. Ive never seen Midterm Elections where every day a new poll comes in and its one point, two points, one point. This just isnt the internal polls which show a wider gap. They are looking desperate. The races, though. If you told me that, you know, at this point in the race it could be georgia that could save the senate and kansas for democrats, now its not going to happen. But if those are the path, run to those states not to North Carolina. Heres the deal. We dont know if its going to happen or not. Were talking about all of these trends. Generals arent supposed to fight the last war. Everybody was looking at the last trends in the last week,
mitt romney was gaining strength, 40,000 people in pennsylvania, 30,000 people here. We went to Barack Obamas speeches where everybody was just dead. New hampshire. Seriously it was a morgue. We left oh, my gosh. But this is all coming on the ground game. If the democrats have the ground game, half the ground game in 14 as they do in 12 these close races flip democratic. I know of young volunteers that are flocking to kentucky trying to bring it home for Alison Lundergan grimes. They are so excited about this. All right. Lets go through this. The new cnn poll shows jean shaheen up on scott brown. Cory gardner has the narrowest of leads. The poll shows him two points up on senator udall. South dakota where democrats sprang into action late in the campaign, former republican
governor mike rounds appears to be in command. Leading the field by 24 points. Its internal polling but even if theres a margin of error of 12 not bad. And jean shaheen up in New Hampshire, that thing is tight. New hampshire, colorado, kansas, iowa and as nick said georgia is fascinating. President obama was on the radio, didnt go there physically. He was on the radio which was a predominantly africanamerican station down there. They believe michele nunn can win that race. President obamas leadership is a big part of races. The administrations Ebola Response this is how people feel about donny. Scott brown said that if mitt romney was president a clear plan would be executed. Jean shaheen was asked whether she wanted the president to help
campaign with her she said the timing doesnt make sense. Hes busy in washington. Hes dealing with the ebola threat. Hes dealing with the threat from isis. He is where he needs. He would like to be running against the president in New Hampshire because he doesnt want to talk about tissues that are important to New Hampshire. Yeah, like grimes a democrat makes a mistake by basically saying go away mr. President. Of course the president is always welcomed here. I disagree with him on x, y and z. Its interesting these polls. I want to make a prediction or put a thought out there. I think what will swing it either way is the topicality the two or three days leading up to it is ebola and isis. These are two dark unmonies to. With dark unknowns people stay right, stay conservative. The news cycle is going to really dictate if we come off a weekend, say, there was another very visible isis scare and
theres ebola now in two or three more states i think it all goes you never think things like that will have a big impact. You go on the largest level. George w. Bushs old dui conviction in 2000 suppressed the evangelical vote in 2000. 2004 the Osama Bin Laden tape endorsing john kerry. That was unfortunate. That didnt help john kerry at all. These last minute surprises i think donny is exactly right. An election i was told very early on going out of business sale and it only works from 7 00 in the morning to 7 00 at night and what happens before, the weekend before that going out of business sale can wipe out all your planning for the going out of business sale for the year before. Thinking of going out of business were running out of time. Lets get four, six and seven. Tv viewers across the country are seeing a lot of the same thing when their shows go to break. In North Carolina, last week viewers endured a negative ad
once a minute. Msnbc reporter found that both candidates are viewed more negatively than positively in many races. In North Carolina both candidates are upside down when it comes to favorableilty. Similar in kentucky for Alison Lundergan grimes and mitch mcconnell. Iowa, both candidates consistently rate more favorably. Mitch mcconnells unfavorable 11 points higher than favorables. In the past that would mean certain defeat. You follow the money constantly for the New York Times. Were now seeing the result on the other end of this that most people that get elected are upside down, have a negative rating with the American People even before they are sworn in on the first day. Hard to govern that way. If you have 100 million in attack ads everyone will look bad. Everyone is being called a jerk. Mcconnell, hes kind of always had that problem in all his races and his magazinic is he manages to pull it out at the end. He always wins under the same conditions and may do so again. Willie, new jersey news. Chris christie, talk being about minimum wage the other day. Now look to clarify his position, the position he took the other day. He said quote, hes sick of hearing about the minimum wage. He was trying to explain that parents should expect their kids to earn the lowest possible paychecks allowed under the law. Congressman perez says he doesnt see it that way. He said Chris Christie has his head in the sand. Secretary perez noticed the u. S. Minimum wage trails behind dozens of other nation. The secretary says i mean we suck. Yes, we do. Thank you very much. You know what . He really cyrystallized things. Supporters of senatorElizabeth Warren says the door may have opened for the running for president. During an interview with People Magazine when asked about a possible white house bid she said in part in quote i dont think so but then added if theres any lesson i learned in the last five years its be dont be so sure what lies ahead. There are amazing doors that could open. So thats kind of exciting. Youre pretty excited about this. Your candidate may be running. I just dont like the little snark in your voice. Theres nothing but respect, deep and abiding respect. Shes leaving the door open for a reason. Shes hearing people telling her dont let hillary run off with this. Every time she has a chance to totally slam this door shut
she doesnt and she opens it a little bit. Its a clear sign shes watching, hearing from people but also she has a real cause. She has a set of issues that are deer to her that she wants to advance. Its a great way to advance. By the way, im not knocking hillary at all here but the truth of the matter is if you believe what Elizabeth Warren believes you dont want the standard bearer of the Democratic Party, your party to be somebody as tight and cozy with wall street. I get tight and cozy with Goldman Sachs if i want to. If im running for the Democratic Party nomination that will upset a lot of people who think like Elizabeth Warren. I would tell her to do it because she would get a six month platform to introduce her to the country and particularly as we look at the electoral map going into 2020 and georgia is possibly a blue state, a
candidate who really liens left and has four years to establish their brand, its not a bad idea as a brand introduction. Hillary clinton is up huge in these polls. A lot of people in this country are resenting the coronation. Ill say it again. I think theres hillary fatigue. I really believe that on some level the american public, they have tremendous respect for her wwhether they like her or dont they want to change the channel. They believe shes certainly very vulnerable in a National Election wasnt the right candidate challenging her in the primary. By the way, if she goes out and does a great job running against Hillary Clinton, the clintons wont like it, clintons will be angry and resentful, but you know what will happen . The same thing that happened to hillary when she was running against barack obama. You run a great race, people say
boy you need her in your cabinet. Theres no down side. I think Hillary Clinton could use a little bit of, you know, having some competition. Watch out for her. Shes been a rush deal at these events. These primaries are healthy. I think they can get out of hand as you saw in the Republican Party last time around. Having a couple of people duke it out good for Hillary Clinton. All right. Still ahead on morning joe, new york congressman. Nicki c. Always gets it right. Hes been covering politics for so long. New york congressman and member of the Homeland SecurityCommittee Peter king will join us. What hes looking for in new york citys response to the ebola case. Plus has Mark Zuckerburg figured out a way to get government officials to open access to facebook in china. And bradley pitts. Yes. You probably know xerox
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