The 22. Popped up. Sandoval in foul territory. Giants win a world series win for the San Francisco giants for the third time in the last five years and theyre hero m. Welcome to morning joe. We have John Heilemann and on capitol hill, christina is here and willie and me here. That looked like a fun game. It was incredible. It was more than a fun game. It was game seven of the world series. That looked like a good time for everyone. John heilemann is our resident giants fan. The incredible starting pitcher who won twice in the world series comes in out of the bull pen. Here he comes and gives them five innings of two hit scoreless relief on two days rest. This guy is now officially a season legend. Not just two days rest but two days after finishing a complete game shutout on sunday night where he threw 120 pitches. Before this game he said i dont care about pitch counts. Hes old fashioned. Ill go in and get it done. Dominant throughout the series and throughout the entire post season. Extraordinary postseason run for him putting himself in ranks of one of the truly greatest postseason pitchers in the history of the game. Career world series e. R. A. Is. 25. Hes a starting pitcher. He really is you can
overstate a lot of things about sports but in this instance hes the greatest postseason pitcher of all times. And hes 25 years old. Hes a big man. 65. I said hes got a name that would be a great biline if he was a journalist. Thats true. For men like us, hes 65 and you have to like a guy that tall. And tip your cap to the kansas city royals. Havent been to the playoffs in 27 years. That stadium was rocking. They played well. They ran into a buzz saw and lost by one run. At the end of the night they were 90 feet away. Tying run at third base. You know what we need here . If you could sit and shut up that would be good. It was a late game. Where do giants sit in terms
of great teams. You have the as and the big red machine. And yankees. I know you dont like to acknowledge that. This is three in five years. Theyre right there. Theyre still young. I would say if you think about the new millennium, its the giants in the national league. May we go to maine . The best organization right now, the giants. Giants and cardinals are incredible. Thats all i have to say. Thank you very much. Well get to that one. Sit down and shut up. Joe knows how to get it done in the postseason too. I dont know what that means but i like it. And you honor their colors. Showdown is looming in maine between state officials and a nurse who recently returned from
sierra leone. Governor paul lapage is an interesting character. Thats all im going to say. Interesting cat. Hes trying to force hickox to observe a quarantine. State police were sent to her home. She says she has no symptoms of ebola and will only stay in her home through today. I dont want to hurt anyone in the public, but i dont think this is an acceptable line to be drawn. When we let stigmaization win, my friends have to stay three feet away from me. Im not symptomatic. You tell me i cant hug my friend after fighting a tough battle for four weeks in west africa. Its painful and emotionally
draining. And without naming names, president obama criticized lawmakers who are supporting quarantines and travel bans for people returning from ebola affected countries. When i hear people talking about American Leadership and then are promoting policies that would avoid leadership and have us running in the opposite direction and hiding under the covers, it makes me frustrated. I put those on notice who think that we should hide from these problems. Thats not who we are. Thats not who i am. Thats not who these folks are. This is america. We do things differently. This is america. And we do things differently. Unless its Barack Obamas overseeing the military. T its the inconsistency coming from this government that has fueled fears and some would say irrational fears. I dont know if fear is so much of ebola as it is of the governments ability to have a consistent policy and guidelines which the president himself does not have. I get to say its a very bold move. As they say in top gun bold move, maverick. For the president to act that selfrighteous while his own military that he runs, that hes the commander in chief of, that hes the head of, is putting a mandatory 21day quarantine on troops that dont even treat
ebola patients. It is absurd that the president would act that selfrighteous when his own government, his own administration, is conducting the very policies that hes acting so selfrighteous to condemn. This is a jim and Tammy Faye Bakker moment for the president. I know there are people that like to feel superior to others and say American People are just idiots. I tell you what, an amazing poll came out yesterday from the Washington Post that i will say again, i think it goes more to the bungling of this operation from the World Health Organization over the past year and the cdc and the dallas hospital and the states that had inconsistent policies, i think it speaks more to that than
the nurse is right up in maine. You can hug her. Shes not stomaympto symptomati. Healthcare workers get ebola when they treat people in the final stages of ebola. When they really are symptomatic. Shes not symptomatic right now. This bigger fear, it doesnt come from the disease, it comes from the competence and the president going out there and being inconsistent again, thats a real problem. Look at the cbs news poll. I know you alluded to the Washington Post one. It finds that 80 of americans support quarantines for u. S. Citizens returning from west africa. Thats the result of inconsistency out there. I said this a couple days ago when we saw the tent. Thats horrible. It was. I talked to i think it was horrible. I talked to my liberal friends, tent, thats fine. Thats cool. Its not fine. Mika, please. I know what youre saying. Lets not debate around this table in midtown manhattan and feel elite. Im telling you that i was stunned that even progressives and independents and everyone was saying quarantine 21 days that sounds good to me. You look at these numbers. 80 . What do you see in that number . Why is it so high . There is still a lot of the biggest failure to your point has been not just the way in which individual cases have or have not been handled but lack of clarity in terms of how this has been communicated on the part of the administration and Public Health officials and everybody. Weve said this many times. There was not a singular voice who is explaining consistency throughout the way people can understand how it should be done, the dimensions of the problem, how it should be done and then in a way that also
matched up with what the facts were on the ground. People have been for most people the thing is i dont understand. There are things that trouble me and frighten me and if a quarantine will keep me safe i dont think most of them think of quarantine as guantanamolike environment. They think quarantine in their home and stay out of the public. It is silly. Dont hug somebody that doesnt have a symptom and doesnt have a fever. If you look at that poll, most people implicitly trust nurses and doctors but after a doctor that was showing signs of ebola still went out in public but dont you think its a good idea for 21 days to stay in. To not go bowling. I salute the doctor for what he did but that doctor is responsible in large part put the poll number up again. That doctor in large part is responsible for that. He comes and he treats. He runs all over the place. I joke about him sweating and huffing and puffing but doing a lot of things that again just didnt seem to make sense. Governor cuomo said lets face it. He didnt do what he should have done. I think if a guy had done that in kansas city or a guy had done that charlotte, it would be one thing. The guy was doing it in new york city in the densest population in america. He wasnt symptomatic and there wasnt an overarching set of principles that were supposed to be followed. Within 21 days i would say this. I would have common sense im dead serious to not go to a Bowling Alley after i went running. You wouldnt have done it. You guys wouldnt have done it either. Again, its so hard im not judging him at all. Hell be able to speak for himself in some time. Im just explaining that 80 number. So much of what we have seen came from that one news story. So i think also the lack of consistency and the real plan has led to governors being hand fisted and then leading to what Chris Christie did with the nurse in the bubble. And once again one other thing. One problem is i mean, the government has let us down. The Health Organizations have let us down. Actually the disease itself has shown itself to be treatable. A lot has four people have survived. A lot have gone right. Not by the government. Dont say youre sorry. The government hasnt done anything. Im just really trying to get to the news story. The government hasnt done anything right on this. They have bungled it from the very beginning. There have been great doctors who have treated patients with ebola. Weve got four Healthcare Providers that have survived. And that itself i think will
calm people down. Who is not calm right now . Chris christie. Thank you. I think that guy may need to talk to an anger management professional right now. Once again Chris Christie is in the news for taking on a heckler. Dont do that. In a public forum. A former Council Person who is a former pro athlete. This is on Hurricane Sandy relief. The new jersey governor went on attack against a former City Council Member who held a sign that read stay in new jersey, finish the job. You all know me. If well get into a debate here today it will be interesting and fun. Yeah. I understand. So ill be more than happy to have a debate any time you like because you dont know a damn thing of what youre talking about. Ive been here when cameras arent here, buddy, and done the
work. So im glad you had your day to show off but were the ones who are here to actually do the work. Turn around and get your 15 minutes of fame and then maybe take your jacket off, roll up your sleeves and do something for the people of this state. And theres been 23 months since then when all youve been doing is flapping your mouth and not doing anything. So listen, you want to have the conversation later, im happy to have it, buddy. Until that time, sit down and shut up. Any time. Any time you like. Its wonderful. Absolutely. Ill tell you, theres about 1,000 things ill do tonight. Going to dinner with you is 1,001. Why . The heckler who tried to invite christie to din foner fo debate is drawing attention to a program that gets residents back
in their home. Whats going on . Everybody loves a politician that fights back. You dont you ignore hecklers. You have fun with hecklers. I dont know. Does he think this is a gateway to winning the Iowa Caucuses . Whats going on here . I dont know. I just dont know. Theres obviously we know that the Youtube Channel and his confrontations in various settings are part of what drove him to National Prominence and gave him a certain kind of public profile. I just looked at that and he looked angry. I think anger just never comes across well on television. Humor. You can deal with hecklers. You can be funny. That seemed angry to me. The guy was right in his face. Im not sure shouldnt he have moved at some point . So . Hecklers have been following politicians around for 4,000 years. They sure have. Number one rule is ignore hecklers. Think about this. All of the College Students in iowa that like to really spend a lot of time going to president ial caucus events and talking to these candidates at their town halls, some of them get a little in your face and a little rowdy. If he does that more than once iowa nice does not like that no matter how many times you call them buddy. Governor christie knows this is part of his mythology. These confrontations is part of hi brand and reputation. You can see how much he enjoys getting in,000. In this case the guy brings up a good point about whats happening in new jersey. There are people still not in their homes. Two years this week since sandy and a lot of money to go to rebuild these towns hasnt been distributed. I dont know. Maybe thats not the right way
to go about it. Maybe thats the only way he could get his message after two years. He has a right to do it. We talked about where he went after the teacher. Its one thing when you tell somebody, back off. These are my kids. Its none of your business. These are my kids. I think we all laughed and for good reason. Dont get personal with somebodys kids and if they decide to send them to a christian school. Its quite another thing if somebody is bringing up a legitimate point and youre telling them to sit down and shut up. Its not like this guy was a 9 11 truther screaming from the back of the arena. Maybe he should take it up another way. I dont know how else you get in front of the governor of the state of new jersey. His point is a legitimate point. Where are you from . I want to hear what you have to say. Bring someone over and talk to him personally after. Exactly. Listen, i would love to talk to you. Can you talk to louis. Thats not what you you would want to hear what they have to say. I dont know. Lets let it be for now. The guy is trying to get attention. We understand the guy is getting attention. Chris christie, dont give him attention. You just gave him attention. He was on all of the nightly news broadcasts last night and they went over and interviewed the guy. Do you think Chris Christie for a second regrets that this morning as he watches it . Hes very combative. I think he is seeing the polls that i knew were coming that people probably support his decision to quarantine this nurse so maybe hes feeling feisty. Its a balancing act and he went over the line there. That may work in jersey. I dont even know that that
works in jersey. Its not going to work in new hampshire. Its not going to work in iowa. Its not going to work in south carolina. Its not going to work in the early primary states. Happy warrior is what you want. Not a lot of happy in that image. I cant believe we have a lot of politics to get to. Still ahead on morning joe i cant believe how Many Political stories we have. Am i going to have to say it to you. Sit down David Axelrod will be on set and Bernie Sanders. And jon huntsman sr. Will be here to explain how he went from bare feet to billions. I want to do that. A Denver Broncos fans goes missing for days and then shows up 130 miles away . Well tell you what happened there. Wasting time on the
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in the near future. They are looking to work with provides but it will not come until heavier economic sanctions are lifted. They make it possible to transfer payments into or out of the country. You can listen to your favorite rap mixes. Did you see that . The broncos fan that disappeared where did this guy . He was found safe after walking and hitchhiking 130 miles to pueblo, colorado. I would go to pueblo or boulder. He was found in a kmart parking lot. He was in good condition. He told authorities he had his fill of football and decided to
go for a walk. He was unaffair people were even searching for him. Something else going on. You have your fill of football. The game didnt go as well as you expected, im going to go walk 180 miles. He said he had very little cash. No cell phone and just walked 130 miles. Something else is going on. Im jealous. We need a followup on this story. A new study out of australia is casting doubt on the theory of the socalled 27 club. Thats the age when rock musicians are at the highest risk of an untimely death. Researchers say that number 27 th