My attitude about all this at this point is trust. Trust, but verify. Trust but verify. Where have i heard that before . The importance of this treaty transcends numbers. Trust but verify. Threw have it the high watermark of our new era of bipartisanship is the Senate Majority leader implying he is to obama as reagan was to the leader of our totalitarian nemesis, the evil empire. [ laughter ] well my feeling of despair is
brought to me by historical context. [ laughter ] its why old people are sad. [ laughter ] it only gets better. Good morning, everybody, its friday, november 7th. Welcome to morning joe. With us on set we have washington anchor for bbc world news america, cat cat. Managing editor of Bloomberg News and steve rattner. On capitol hill host and managing editor of tv ones news one. And joe i feel everything will be better, right . Youre being sarcastic, mika. No. Im so hopeful. What do you think . I think im very hopeful too. I think everything is changing. And i think the most important thing is were finally going to have accountability. If republicans on the hill dont get things done they will pay
for it in two years. The electorate taught them that over the past four years. Same thing with the president. If the president and democrats dont do things they will get punished as well. People are getting so excited about barack obama, he came out and he didnt seem to get it and blah, blah, blah. Now its oh, john boehner, he was so mean. He talked about when you play with matches youre going to burn yourself. Guess what . These are opening arguments. As nicole said yesterday, barack obama was narrow casts only to his base when he went out and talked. He have the same thing with john boehner who has more republicans right now working alongside of him than any speaker since 1929. Hes playing to that base. I promise you, just like i said Immigration Reform would never ever happen a year and a half ago when everybody said oh, they got to pass Immigration Reform. Im telling you now well see
Immigration Reform pass, well see Energy Legislation pass. Peace may not break out but well get some things done. I hope youre right. I like your hopeful tone. Happy friday. It doesnt sound like it. President obama is set to meet with a group of bipartisan congressional leaders, its the First Time Since democrats lost control of the senate in the midterm elections. On wednesday presumptive Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell set a conciliatory tone. I cant say that because it didnt sound like that to me. It dont sound like it. Apparently he said a conciliatory tone for the two years ahead. Yesterday Speaker Boehner was more direct, warning against executive action on immigration. And even promising to try to repeal obamacare. Fining Common Grounds can be
hard work but even harder if the president isnt willing to work with us. Yesterday we heard him say that he may double down on his go it alone approach. I told the president before, he needs to put politics aside and rebuild trust. The president continues to act on his own hes going to poison the oil. When you play with matches you take the risk of burning yourself. Hes going to burn himself if he continues to go down this path. Not trying to be snarky, honestly. What is different than two years ago, one year ago, three years ago, four years ago. What sounded different there. I dont get it. Repealing obamacare. Again, youre talking about somebody thats giving their opening arguments but ironically these people are speaking to themselves and not the american people. In this cause its good. Its barack obama telling his base we got drubbed, im not going to panic, well try to
meet republicans halfway. You had Mitch Mcconnell as a lot of people said yesterday John Heileman, Mitch Mcconnell speech that wasnt to the president. That wasnt to the american people. That was to ted cruz. Then you had john boehner, his speech was to all of his hard core conservatives and telling them dont worry everybody is talking about peace breaking out. Were not going to forget what we stand for because we had a massive victory the other night. Everybody is talking at the end of the day you got three players who have everything telling them they need to make a deal ahead of 2016. Yeah. I totally agree with that. The interesting thing two interesting things. One is if you listen to talk radio and some of the rightwing, the far right quadrants of the Media Echo Chamber in the last few days they have been howling, not triumphant in victory but
howling at their leaders, howling at Mitch Mcconnell and john boehner telling them not to capitulate. John boehner is talking to his caucus and those parts of the Republican Base and part of the republican media sphere and saying im not going to capitulate. What was most interesting yesterday john boehner and Mitch Mcconnell are so much on the same page. So much message discipline between the two of them. They are working very much in tandem. In the long run that portends well that something will get done, legislation occurring. The final split in the senate has not decided as votes are still being counted in alaska. Democrats are pulling removing tv buy ads in louisiana where Mary Landrieu continues her runoff against bill cassidy. For democrats theres obvious frustration. Nancy pelosi will likely remain minority leader there are calls
for a broader coalition and new blood. In her review yesterday, pelosi called it a per bill year but argued depressed turn out not the message was at the root of the problem. On the republican side top operatives mocked democratic turn out operations and its ground game. The senates Republican Campaign committee suggested democrats shouldnt have sidelined president obama as much as they did because he could have helped turn out the base in key battleground states. Does that make any sense . Republicans didnt win, the democrats lost this election. You know, you can make the argument that if some democrats had made a more forceful effort to run on the positive things that have come out of the last six years, on the record of some of the health care reform, the fact we didnt go over the financial cliff on the unemployment numbers coming down, the energy boom. Steve knows there are plenty of numbers you can point to to show
america is moving in the right direction. By running so far from president obamas record, that they skittered away from the positive thing. Could that have helped them. President obama could have made the case himself more forcefully in some areas. Steve rattner, i want to ask you as a businessman that spends your days making deals and you spent decades making deals and been successful in most of them, whats your take on the Opening Statements of all of these players . Are they just beginning their negotiations . Is this just part of sort of a tans that ends up with deal making down the road . Whats your gut . I think your calculus is right. I think all sides should want to make a deal. The republicans should want to go into 2016 showing theyve done something so they have some credibility for the next president ial election. Hard to imagine president obama doesnt want to leave without getting something done so he doesnt go down as a completely failed second term president. But i think both the technical and philosophical obstacles are great. If you take immigration the house pass ad bill with 68 votes on immigration the last time. The house decline to consider it in large part over this question about path to citizenship. I dont know how this gets easy they are time around. If the two houses get together and pass a bill without a path to citizenship, theres a high probability the president will veto it. You take immigration as a microcosm of the kinds of issues they are facing it looks tough. You face the fact as in the senate you need 60 votes to pass most things. They can do stuff through reconciliation if its a money matter with only 51 votes. But they face the president and his veto pen. I dont think the mere change in these two bodies is going to create deals. The only thing that will create deals is if the two sides realize they have a vested interest compromising by a much more significant degree than theyve compromised before. Ive done a lot of deals. Some get done, some dont. It depends on the goodwill and the selfinterest of the parties. Roland, a lot of people asking about the president s press conference, the fact that he may not have seem to get it. I hear nancy pelosi saying yesterday our biggest problem wasnt our message it was our turnout. Wrong. They left the guy that masterminded the greatest turnout of democratic voters in 2008 and 2012 on the sidelines. The president has got to be sitting there going you got to be kidding myself my fellow democrats. Maybe thats why he wasnt so upset the other day in his press conference because democrats said they didnt want him around. Democrats and also he failed
there. Look heres the real deal. I remember when atlas fought holyfield. Do you want to fight . They did. I interviewed the first lady she was talking about the economy and jobs coming back. Remember when he came into the office losing 500,000 jobs a month. Ivy sue allized that chris terrify commercial saying detroit is back. Ivy sue allized Black And White video of losing jobs, homes being foreclosed on and then color video of jobs coming back, Gas Production up and im saying wait a minute why did i not see that commercial. Why did i not see that. Why didnt you create the narrative. The president has to own up to the fact that he created this competing infrastructure, organizing for america and the Democrat National committee. The democrats problem is they dont have a 50 state strategy. They have no infrastructure in a lot of those states for 2012 and they didnt create it in the
last two years. This is a party who had no clue when it came to message and didnt fight. The president you should be going to those Poor Health Care states and talking to those largely white voters and saying you know what . I passed the Affordable Health care act for you because the health care in mississippi and alabama and tennessee and arkansas is horrible. So people you keep supporting they say they are against me on this. When this deal is for you. I said to senior white house officials and to the president i dont understand why hes unwilling to throw the punches. Guess what mr. President you got two years left. You want a legacy . Fight. So, first of all, i think the president and his wife could have had an impact there. Joe, i guess this will sound incredibly naive. You call it opening arguments. I dont understand why Mitch Mcconnell and john boehner couldnt wipe the slate clean. I dont know why the base needs to hear what they heard yesterday in terms of playing
with matches youll get burned, were going to repeal obamacare. Its been a rough ride. Were in power now. And, you know, quite frankly we want to make it work. There are some things we want to get done, there are some things the president wants to get done. We commit to working together with the president were going to reach out and going to try to make this work and get washington working again. Why couldnt that have been the opening argument . I dont understand why there has to be this jerk tone. They all sound like jerks. Am i wrong . Yeah. You are. Why . It hurts me to say that. First of all amen to everything roland said. The message is very simple. Unemployment is down below 6 . Gas prices are down to the lowest level in years. Health Care Insurance or health care costing us less than it has in half a century. A lot of great things to say. To your point, there are a lot of times, mika, where you would go into court and youll hear
the prosecutor say in front of the jury, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the defendant is a murderer. Behindthescenes five minutes before he said okay ill tell you what my evidence is kind of sketchy. Ill give him five years probation. Thats the way it works. It hasnt worked. Mika, let me finish. In this case you have the president of the United States saying hey you know what . I dont care whether the republicans like it or not i will with a stroke of the pen ignore them and legalize the status of millions of illegal immigrants. You got john boehner talking about dont play with matches, you got Mitch Mcconnell talking about waving the bloody shirt. I think with the president and the speaker especially they are playing to their base. Youre being unfair to Mitch Mcconnell. Mitch mcconnell did give us a tone and i think John Heileman you may agree with me we saw a tone in michigan mcconnell we havent seen in quite some time. These are opening arguments. People said to me, john, washington is a hard place to figure. No its not. Look around. I said everybody in this House Chamber has one thing they really want. You know what their leverage is, you know what they are driven by. Thats what you work. It was so easy to figure out. Its the same thing here. These three guys they all want something completely different. Mitch mcconnell knox he has an uphill battle. In 2016 hell be fighting in blue states. Barack obama, hes got two years until hes giving speeches and making lots of money. But right now hes fighting for a legacy. John boehner, john boehner wants to be seen as more than a guy that can corral the most extreme people in his chamber. They all know, republicans all know they have to do something
on immigration to make sure that they get at least 35, 38, 40 among hispanic voters in 2016 or else they lose the white house again. And they cant put up with eight years of Hillary Clinton. Am i too optimistic here . I think im not being optimistic, i think im being cynical, john. I agree with most of what you just said not exactly all of it. I think in the case of Mitch Mcconnell he has a relatively manageable caucus so he can afford to say things like poke ted cruz and say were not going shut down the government or 0 go for a full repeal of obamacare. Hes got to put ted cruz in his place. John boehner has a less manageable caucus and he needs to hold a harder line and show a larger number of his more unruly members he is not going to be a
push over. I get where mika is coming from. You got to listen to Rush Limbaugh for just one day right now. The last three days Rush Limbaugh is saying you were not elected to make deals with obama, you were elected to stop obama. Thats still a big the question is whether somebody like boehner, i think joe is right boehner is trying to deal with a very fractured caucus. The immigration thing. You said all republicans know we must pass Immigration Reform in order to win the president ial election in 2016. All the established republicans know we need to pass immigration with a path of citizenship. I dont think all republicans know that. Theres stale large chunk. This is why the immigration thing may be the hardest of all these deals to get done. If it was up to john boehner, Mitch Mcconnell and president obama thats not the case. Its not the case for the past six years and wont be the case
for the next two years. Hundred members of the house who dont want to do Immigration Reform bill but the tone that john boehner and Mitch Mcconnell have been using on immigration, if i was sitting in the white house they goaded us further into doing it. How could he not do it now . You have a basic conflict between the fact that logic tells you they should do immigration. Then you have ideology and specifics. When the ideology and specifics collide, i would not be overly optimistic about immigration getting done. Guys, the votes are there for immigration. The votes are there. I have talked to republicans. The problem is the republicans do not want to bring a bill up unless they have all the votes in their caucus. The votes are actually there. The pressure should be on boehner to say bring the bill up and put it up for a vote is there. Roland is exactly right. The votes are there. John boehner is more secure than hes ever been. So if he has 50, 75 republicans saying were going to raise hell and youll pay for it, john boehner is in a position to say go for it cowboy. Lets see if you can take me out. John boehner can go before his caucus today and say, you know what . You guys need to follow me since i have been speaker of the house, we have built our majority and we have the biggest republican majority since 1929. Heres the question that you people need to listen to. And answer it for me. Heres a question you need to answer. Do you want to be a house that sends bills to harry reid in two years . To have them vetoed by Hillary Clinton in two years or do you actually want to get something done. If you dont want to get something done, you scream and yell and maybe you can have your own talk show in two years, i dont know, i dont give a damn,
im going to get stuff done and you can follow me. If you dont like it sit on the back row. Listen, i personally on immigration, i only want to go as far as legalization. Myself personally. Im not one of these people who say oh, we have to look at the last Election Results and be scared to death well lose every hispanic vote. Im not saying they should capitulate. They have every reason to work with the president and meet in the middle. I keep hearing Rush Limbaugh, Rush Limbaugh. Rush limbaugh feels thats his job. Great. Let him speak to the people. John boehner is sitting in a stronger position today than hes ever sat in. Mitch mcconnell, for good reason, is not even thinking about what happened this past tuesday. Hes worried about two years from now and whats going to happen on the tuesday in 2016. Its in their best interests. Well revisit this because i actually think theres something there you disagree. I think were saying the same thing and you just cant handle it. Still ahead on morning joe former mayor of cincinnati Jerry Springer weighs in on the 2014 election. Sebastian junger is here and representative mike rogers. In our 8 00 hour, did you believe that, peter and paul from the classic trio, peter paul and mary. First casting your ballot never looked so good. Talk about the fivestar treatment some voters get. Morning joe will be right back. Hi, are we still on for tomorrow . Tomorrow. Quick look at the weather. Nice day, beautiful tomorrow. Tomorrow is full of promise. We can come back tomorrrow. And we promise to keep it that way. Driven to preserve the environment, csx moves a ton of freight nearly 450 miles on one gallon of fuel. What a day. Cant wait til tomorrow. Ring ring . Progresso its ok that your soup tastes like my homemade. Its our slow simmered vegetables and tender white meat chicken. Apology accepted. Im watching you soup people. Make it progresso or make it yourself
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its talks with iran. Somehow were playing footsie with the iranians and hope they will somehow have an effect on isis. The sponsors of the 5,000 hezbollah that came into syria and changed the balance of power when the Free Syrian Army was succeeding a few years ago. This is not a strategy. This is sort of an ad hoc reactionary failure. Joe, first of all, what do you make of the letter . Well, first of all, and our good friend carol lee helped report on this story along with jay solomon. When the wall street journal story hit a lot of sunni leaders, our allies across the middle east were enraged. Absolutely enraged. They do not understand the white houses policy in the middle east. And they think their approach on taking care of isis by as john
mccain said quote playing footsie with iran which is really the language of our sunni allies this morning is not a good one. So, a lot of people upset across the middle east at the president trying to make an alliance with iran when they see iran as an enemy of the middle east. Timeline too to point out, november 24th, lets see if anything happens with them reaching a deal on the Nuclear Program. Well see as the calendar ticks down. The markets will be opening for a solid jobs report today on the heels of another banner day on wall street. Major u. S. Stock indices had record highs for the second straight session on thursday. The dow climbing more than 17,500 points hitting its 21st record close this year with the s p reaching new heights. Economists expecting october jobs report to show an increase of about 230,000 new jobs. Well have that report for everybody later this morning. Interesting. Total disconnect. Okay. The New York Post espns bill simmon who was suspended in september about his profanity tirade against bill goodell is trashing a coworker. Earlier simmons made comments about lebron james slow start to the nba season comments that the could host of espn mike on make aired on his show believed simmons to be out of context. Simmons sent out this tweet among others. What mike and mike did today was absolute garbage. I would say i lost respect for that show but i never had it. He said he has since spoken to simmons and that all is good. Hats going on here with bill simmons. Looks like washington. Bill is a little on edge. A little unruly. According to mike all is good. Mike is a cool guy. We get this from the los angeles times. Voters in belair, headed to the polls in style this week with luxuries including free valet parking, complimentary food and even a harpist to entertain them. The lux hotel on sunset boulevard designated polling location treated citizens to style and opulence while performing their civic duty. Servers offered up lamb chops, chinese Chicken Salad and high end pastries. Those are your people, mika and all liberal democrats. You should move there. Driving around in teslas there in california on the sunset strip. The california secretary of state said its legal as long as incentives dont carry along any expectations that people will vote for their interests. In new jersey, nik wallenda high wire walk. A wildlife filmmaker is going to
go one up, being eaten alive by a snake. Discovery said pill risoli did it wearing a custom built suit. Heres part of the promo. Yeah. Its not too graphic. The largest species of snake on earth. Anaconda. Got you, got you. Were going to get me inside of a snake. Were going to make me as appealing as possible so the snake thinks i got this big thing here, i might as well get a free meal. You have to go head first. Of course. I mean you have to go head first. Everybody knows that. Whoa joe, are you going to watch that . No way no way i wouldnt even watch the high wire thing. Okay. I set my dvr and report back
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okay joining us now for the must read opinion pages Senior National correspondent for Bloomberg Business week josh green who writes in the latest issue that both parties will find obama isnt the problem. Really . Interesting. Let me read what you say here, josh. You continue in part by saying by delivering republicans control of Congress Voters have been ensured the next two years will be even less productive than the last two years. Is that even possible, josh . I think it might be. With congresss Approval Rating in the teens and partisan acrimony sure to intensify, washingtons real significance in 2015 will not be symbolic, not legislative its a political cher no bill will shape both
partys fortunes. Next years biggest battles may be those fought within two parties rather than between them. Ill let joe take this. Joe, i say you disagree with this concept. Yeah, josh. Obviously this is the opposite of what happened when bill clinton was president when republicans came in and they had to pitch battles together. Republicans and democrats passed welfare reform, they balanced the budget, balanced it the first time in a generation, they passed tax reform, regulatory reform. Did a lot of big things. Why do you think the opposite will happen here. I dont think a whole lot will happen. We may get trade agreements which obama has signaled hes open to. Harry reid wasnt. Harry reid is gone. Theres the medical device tax and medicare tax that might have some bipartisan movement. Something on keystone. All the big issues are more divided even more so. 48 hours later we already got
both sides clashing over Immigration Reform. You got to raise the debt ceiling in a few months. It doesnt look promising for big things getting done. Roland i seem to be the only polly anna on the panel today. Do you think things will get done or are you skeptical as well with everybody else. Im not skeptical. I think things will get done because both of these parties, both of these all these leaders are in a conundrum. Look at the polling data, voters are angry, voters are upset. If youre the democrats and republicans you cant afford another two years of doing nothing. I think what the president should do in his state of the Union Address stand before congress and say enough kicking these big items down the line. Its time to stop. They told us they want us to work, now lets get to work. So the challenge should be there. He should stop threatening with executive order when it comes to
immigration. He should simply say get to work, get to work or you know whats going to happen. Enough with the threats. He has to challenge them. They must challenge him. The voters also went to the polls have to get off their butts and say i voted but ill hold you accountable. Well go to your meetings, go to your offices, were going to push you to get off your butt because were paying you to work and youre not working. Josh . The problem is the two parties dont agree. They wont be able to get together. Have you heard has anyone talked to republicans behind the scene, you know, away from their opening arguments as joe put them and hear that they do want i mean you hear that there are small areas of agreement. You also hear that the angry people that got them elected want them to send a message to obama. They want them to repeal obamacare and unwind a lot of things that democrats have accomplished which will poison the well. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Why is it every time republicans win the majority its because angry people voted for them. They were angry in 2006 and 2008. Anger is what drives the american election. I agree with the concept democrats lost this, republicans didnt win. Joe, heres the deal. How do voters pass minimum wage increases in states but then also elected republicans as well. Voters are angry. Democrats are angry. Anthony brown they assumed he was going to be governor in maryland. He got blown away by larry hogan. This is a deep blue state. Illinois, pat quinn deep blue state. What has to happen is voters understand that election day was the end of one process the beginning of another. We have to challenge these leaders to say enough with your games, enough with all the talk, we need to get to work. Were suffering while youre getting your check and health
care. Mika, what roland just said is, you know, 2006 was a repudiation of bush. 2010 was ideological election that some people are saying 2014 is. 2014 really was americans going out saying get things done. Republicans understand this. And the socalled hot heads in the house or in the senate or wherever they are, they understand they won in 2010, they didnt get things done over the next two years, they got voted out. I mean they dont have to go back to what happened to me in 1994 and 1996. They can see what happened in 2010. All the incentives are for both of these parties to get things done. I think they will. I want you to be right. I want you to be right. The American Voters want you to be right. The question is whether it comes to the tricky question of tax
reform they can get over ideological hurdles. When you ask republicans okay what is it you will compromise on. Nothing. They will get burned. They name keystone but they dont talk about immigration or tax reform. Ill tell you what i would do, mika, if i were the president of the United States i would make the republicans put up are a shut up. Im not running for reelection again. You guys talked about saving medicare, saving medicare, saving social security. Lets do it. And go for the big deal. Make history. Bend history with entitlement reform. Call the republicans bluff. Throw it on the table and just sit there and smile because youre not running for reelection in 2016, youre giving lots of speeches and making lots of money and the president of the United States could do something that could save this country over the next 20 to 30 years on debt and the democrats can all vote no and its all on the republicans lap. Your going to be responsible . Are you going to run . Thats right. Look at this cover. Joe is smoking a big bowl of optimism. Josh green thank you. Jerry springer standing by. I cant believe this. Well be right back. Happy pills. Music. The getaway vehicle for all the confidence you need. Td ameritrade. You got this. No question about that. But your erectile dysfunction that could be a question of blood flow. Cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be Ready Anytime the moments right. You can be more confident in your ability to be ready. And the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. Tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. Do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. Do not drink alcohol in excess. Side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. To avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. If you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. Ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a free 30tablet trial. Over 12,000 financial advisors. So, how are things . Good, good. Nearly 800 billion dollars in assets under care. Let me just put this away. How did edward jones get so big . Could you teach our kids that trick . By not acting that way. Ok, last quarter. Its how edward jones makes sense of investing. Synchrony Financial Partners with over two hundred thousand businesses, from fashion retailers to healthcare providers, from jewelers to Sporting Good stores,
to help their customers get what they want and need. Banking. Loyalty. Analytics. Synchrony financial. Engage with us. Here with us now former democratic mayor of cincinnati, Jerry Springer. You know hes the host of the show baggage. A dating game. Yes. Nobody throws anything at anybody. First of all the bags are too heavy. Your personal baggage. You have to reveal it during the course of the show. Someone you may want to go out there, you know, youre all excited about it but then you hear about the baggage. Then you go whoa. Well do a job switch for a day. Joe, would that be cool . That would be awesome. Im going to host baggage. You wouldnt host my other show. No. Because you wont have a career. In our 24th year. Were starting to have the children of our original guests. I dont like it. Which is wrong. These people werent supposed to procreate. Your body guard got his own show. Lets talk politics. You have a lot of different facets to your personality. What do you make of the results here of these elections . Nothing that hasnt been said a million times before. However, i believe that first of all, when you look back it certainly is predictable, was predictable what happened. You know the amount but why . Theres a structural reason. In off year elections fewer
people vote. And they tend to be statewide elections, more localized elections, and the congressional lines have been drawn so by republican conservative state legislatures. When everybody votes democrat to win, when fewer people vote republicans win. That historically has between case. Good news is despite the set backs that those of us are on the left side of the political continuum, we had set backs over time liberals always win. Over time liberal win. If you look at america in the last 75, 100 years every major issue that were proud thats mainstream, we talk about, everyone in the beginning conservatives fought it and ultimately liberals won. Whether you talk about social security, medicare, the civil rights movement, womens reits movement, environmental movement, gay rights everything in the beginning. Liberals are the crazy lefty long hair pinkos but its
mainstream america and its embarrassed to run against. When we look at what this election means and slice it and dice it. 29 state legislatures are now run with majority republican control. So as you future cast them and look down the line and ohio is a great indicator because we had the incumbent john houston beating turner when we were in ohio, shes a dynamic person but houston was able to pull it out. He raised three times the money she did and ohio being an important bellwether state. When a third of the voters vote conservatives will win. Well continue to have a republican congress. The president in National Elections five of the last six more americans voted for the democrat than republican and that will be the case two years from now. More americans why do democrats not show up in the midterms. This is the republicans trying
to gerry mander districts. They dont show up. We have gone through this is a perfect example. We have gone through a year of virtually every ten minutes a commercial saying on the air saying how horrible barack obama is. Well a lot of people dont get that involved in politics. If youre inundated and democrats didnt come back and say we love the president lets go to joe. But, jerry, i say this with all due respect, i mean you kind of sound like republicans after they get walloped by democrats, they have a thousand different excuses. I think in this case, those lets talk about a couple of things. I want your insights here. Its not just washington. I mean in North Carolina you had thom tillis, 30 million ads against him and he still won. Republicans are controlling state legislatures. Im a guy who six years ago was ca castigating my party being trapped in the deep south. They are successful. Isnt it time the democrats look inward to make sure this doesnt happen again 2016 and not blame Koch Brothers or negative ads or people not going out to vote. It sounds what republicans did. Thats a fair point but i blame the democrats for running away from barack obama. See, i would argue that as i said before. If everybody votes, if even those that normally have been disenfranchised, if they vote in president ial elections we win. We lose the other elections because those disenfranchised, they havent seen enough results to vote. They know in off year elections they have to get more minorities to get out and vote. How stupid was it of the Democratic Party to run away from the man that had historic
turn outs in 08 and 12. It was totally stupid. I agree with you on that. The democrats i think its unfathomable they would run away from barack obama when frankly everything we wanted in the last six years has really come about. Whether its the guys. Health insurance, saving the Auto Industry, the stimulus, all these items that we wanted were in better shape now. Jerry, wait a minute. Black people turned out. Okay. Latinos had a very small drop off. Democrats problem . They didnt get white people. To say target minorities thats what happened. Young folks that number also dropped off. The democrats knew after 2010 you were going to have a problem in 2014 so why did they have a four year strategy of turning people out in the midterms . Very hard. You make a fair point. I should not have said its a
minority. Just minorities. But it is people that dont believe that the political system makes a difference to them. Now on president ial years for some reason, people feel its their patriotic duty. You got to go and vote for president. More like a rock star running. So we get people out in president ial elections. The democrats failed because and they werent behind barack obama. They ran away from him. Kentucky is a perfect example of how she ran way from barack obama and she got nailed for it. Yep. Jerry springer thank you so much. We ran out of time. Roland martin thank you as well. Good luck with baggage. I look forward to you hosting it. Everyone has the same baggage. Yes. Katy wants to throw a chair at you. I dont get it. Coming up we have the mega stars of the highlyanticipated Christopher Nolan film interstellar. We caught up with matthew
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horoscopes. Mine says tend to curb sarcasm to use as a defense mechanism. Be more open. Yours say you may be tired of having the same old conversation with a partner. Know this too will pass. [ laughter ] having said that i think youre wrong. Im not being sarcastic. Lets start with the news a bring chuck into the conversation and maybe he can mediate. President obama set to meet today with congressional leaders First Time Since democrats lost control of the senate in the midterm athletics. On wednesday presumptive Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell set his agenda for two years ahead. Yesterday bone was more direct warning against executive action on immigration and even promising to try to repeal obamacare. Finding Common Grounds can be hard work but it will be even harder if the president isnt willing to work with us. Yesterday we heard him say that he may double down on his go it
alone approach. Ive told the president before. He needs to put politics aside and rebuild trust. The president continues to act on his own hes going to poison the well. When you play with matches, you take the risk of burning yourself. And hes going to burn himself if he continues to go down this path. I mean, i know you say its opening arguments but im curious, joe, why does the base need to hear it this way . Why cant they hear were going to Work Together, well get things done. I month the president tell me what im missing here. For the same reason why the Democratic Base needed to hear barack obama go out wednesday morning, not panicked, not capitulating to republicans, not coming out saying oh, ill meet you halfway. I thought the president played it perfectly. Stop looking so shocked and stunned. Okay. This is politics 101. If the president had gone out
and panicked and actually said oh, boy i got thumped and things are so terrible no he came out and played his strongest card. Im still going to do executive action. You guys want to do something thats great. Ill work with you or against you. I thought strategically, chuck, that was pitch perfect. I know a lot of people were shocked. I had people say i can believe you arent angry at the president s response. Strategically it was pitch perfect. I thought Mitch Mcconnell in the senate, the senate being what it is he wants to it be Mike Mansfields senate was pitch perfect. John boehner has a conservative house. They scored massive wins the biggest majority since 1929. I thought he also was playing to his base but, chuck, you know this better than anybody. With these three guys, at least these two republicans, you have two republicans that were raised in a washington where you made
deals. Am i being overly optimistic . Well, look, perhaps. But lets remember they both have two Nuclear Weapons. The congressional republicans, they dont know how to i think they dont know how to operate theirs yet but theirs is on health care. They can poison the well very quickly if they decide to go on a series of trying to pass legislation that repeals either parts or some or parts or all of health care. The president has his own Nuclear Weapon and thats executive action on immigration. Right. And the question is, do they table this for six months, the two sides, see what they can get done, or do things get bad quickly and they both feel the need that they have to do it early and if they do it early i think it means you wont see a lot of other stuff done. Listen to the president s words very carefully on wednesday. I thought he was very, very he really narrowly defined what
he plans on doing with immigration. I dont know if its going to go as far as people think it is. And, steve rattner, he also said which i thought was pretty brilliant the president said hey listen heres the deal. Any executive order i pass on immigration you guys can overturn with legislation. Well just pass legislation. Right. Sure. But i agree with chuck. I think this is going to be a process and i think everybody will bring their, both their need for a deal and baggage to the table and i think its very hard to know exactly how this will come out. The only thing John Heileman i guess im saying im not shocked and stunned, in fact im bored with this approach because i have seen it now for six years and this approach of these, you know, two Nuclear Weapons being held up to each other faces hasnt worked in the past. Well its a new day, mika. Well see. Im not seeing it. Do you. Well see if we see Nuclear Weapons deployed. I have a question for chuck and joe you can answer this question too. I noted the other day that david axelrod, formerly the Senior Adviser to the president sent out a tweet a couple of days ago which he suggested president obama take the offer to not do executive action on immigration, the one hes promised to take if republicans and specifically john boehner would give him and up or down vote on immigration in the house. Im curious, read the tea leaves on that tweet. What do you think david was trying to do and number two, would that be an effective potential tactic . I doubt it would be an effective tactic because i think the politics of immigration has changed inside the republican conference. When you think the border crisis with the undocumented children changed the landscape if you think about how every republican changed, frankly, the way they
talked about immigration from then on out during the campaign trail. So, you know, the republicans that got elected they spent a lot of time basically promising that they would not support a senate bill that looked, an immigration bill that looked like a senate compromise. I just think thats not going to happen. I want seems like a smart offer for the white house to make. The question is whether it would be taken seriously. Look, Speaker Boehner promised he was going to do some action on immigration and he didnt. He was going to do something. They never brought up any bill. Thats something also that i think the white house could push on. Katy, real quick. Its very hard to see over the course of the last 48 hours, 36 hours since we had the elections any indication from the republicans or democrats that theres a substantive area on either side that they are willing to compromise. From the republican side or from the white house side this is what well give on immigration
reform. If we dont get that youll end up with an executive order. Lets move to the economy. Steve you have a closer look why so Many Americans are discouraged by the economy and how that may have played a role in the results we got tuesday night. We talked earlier how the democrats had a positive economic message. Didnt seem to resonate. 78 of americans who came out of the voting booth said the economy was fair or poor. They said economy is the most important issue. Why are americans not happy about the economy. Its jobs and income. Let me show you a chart. We talked a lot and later this morning were going to get new unemployment numbers that will be pretty good. You can see the Unemployment Rate has come down very substantially under the president s Approval Rating. Basically back to about where it was when he took office. But if you look at the unemployment situation a different way youll find that youll find that if you look at it in terms of
americans working back in 2008 but 80 of working age americans 25 to 54 were working and you can see how far it dropped and you can see its only modestly recovered. So even though there had bean huge number of new jobs created a lot of americans who want to work are still not working. Now if you look at incomes i think its even more striking whats happened over the last six years. I love this chart. You love this chart. You should be depressed by it. I love the chart. If you go back to the beginning of 2009 for the average american, their wages after adjusted for inflation are down by 1 . Remember we had much more income inequality. For most americans the decline is even bigger. If you work in the Auto Industry your wages are down 15 . We saved the jobs, we couldnt save the incomes. If you worked in manufacturing they are down 3. 8 . Only people that work in the information skills based Industries Like finance,
information, education, things like that where your incomes are up. So its very hard to make a case for americans that the economy is great when your income is down. This is the quandry that Democratic Candidates have. If you take a graph and compare the president s Approval Rating with a share of the democratic vote that the Senate Candidates got in these battleground states you find about a 70 correlation, 70 of the vote share is explained by the relationship between the president s approval. In arkansas where the president s Approval Rating is down to 31 , you can see that mark pryor only got about 40 of the vote. If you go in the other direction and look at North Carolina, colorado, georgia, where the president s approval rate cigarette 43 those candidates did reasonably well, kay hagan didnt quite make it but did reasonably well. Roughly the candidate above that line, alaska, virginia, new hampshire, somewhat outperformed the candidates below the line
somewhat underperformed. One last thing about this, in a lot of these battleground states the income performance we talked about was substantially worse than the national average. In arkansas, incomes were down 2. 3 relative to that roughly 1 i talked about. In alaska 2. 4 . In iowa 2 . In colorado 3 . In North Carolina incomes were down 7. 4 . Very hard to run against those kinds of numbers. Thats amazing. 7 rise in Financial Services sector in terms of partnership raises. We got another guest. Joe, take it. With us now from washington the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee republican congressman mike rogers of michigan. Congressman great to talk to you. Mr. Chairman we can talk politics first. Fascinating story on the front page of the wall street journal. It sent shockwaves. Written by carol lee. Sent shockwaves across the middle east especially our soon chip allies that president obama
continues to secretly send letters to the ayatollah, talking about being allies against isis. What can you tell us about it . Well, the white house certainly hasnt denied it that theyve done this and i can tell you that it is causing real problems with our Sunni Arab League partners in the fight against isis. Its really concerning. We saw this happen originally under the negotiations, the Nuclear Negotiations where they had secret arrange merapis with secret negotiations. That had big blow back from our sunni led nation partners who were interested in pushing back on a nuclear iran. We would think you would learn the lesson from the first go around and now damaging its bento our allies including israel. To have another round of it is quite concerning. Steve rattner. So what would you advise the president at this point to be
doing visavis the problem of iran and its relationship to Nuclear Weapons, its relationship to isis and Everything Else thats going on in the middle east. Originally what he wanted to do is ratchet up the sanctions. The president didnt support them finally signed off on it but he was opposed to sanctions. They were starting to bite the elite of iran. This is what was concern for all of us. This was a bipartisan concern and thats important from congress. We were finally starting to have impact on the people who were surrounding the leadership in iran that were starting to take a bite. When you relieve that pressure valve which happened, what we have seen is iran slowing down any real negotiation. Matter of fact the last extension came only because the United States said well release billions of dollars to you to keep talking. We didnt really get anything for it. Sometimes we forget the consequence of a nuclear iran. You know, sunni led countries
have said listen if iran a shiite country gets a Nuclear Weapon were going to get a Nuclear Weapon. So by doing this wrong you proliferate a Nuclear Arms Race in the middle east that should bring a bead of sweat to all our foreheads. Thats troubling. Thats why were so concerned especially this second round of secret negotiations never a good idea. Congressman you see all the intel on this and the speculation is while its not coordinated at the senior levels clearly when it comes to the fight against isis there is some sort of coordination already taking place between the iranians and the american coalition. Weve had examples of where iran jan forces are working on the ground in the same places that americans are bombing from the air. To the extent this letter reflect as reality. No. Theres some sense of military coordination on militarying flights so airplanes dont
collide into each other. That even happens today with civilian aircraft between iran and other nations where they have adversarial relationships with. This is a whole new game. Just because the enemy of your enemy wants to help you doesnt mean they are the north adversary. This is the case. Iran is still engaged in activities in iraq in yemen thats trying to overthrow these particular governments. Certainly causing them trouble. So you have to remember the folks who are seeing this, who are pushing back and trying to be helpful with isis are looking at the United States and scratching their heads saying wait a minute, were getting overrun by these folks, they are up to malicious activity right here in our own neighborhoods and you want to sit down and negotiate with them. This is dangerous. I argue again you have to pick your friends in these types of fights and making it muddled at the expense of folks who hatch stupd and put arms in and money
and trainers and risked their own lives to fight back on a growing threat of isis doesnt seem like a very good plan. Lets bring chuck todd host of meet the press in. Chuck . Mr. Chairman what about this issue, in this case, against isis iran also wants to destroy isis too. So, this whole thing is sort of there is some potential for real politic here, is it not . I think its very dangerous, chuck, to do this. Again, you have to understand when its not like everyone will join hands and say we all like isis, lets join together. This is causing real strains with our arab League Partners who have been good partners in this fight and are getting better. And, again, there was a long time where the administration had really had to try to repair the damage done to our relationships with our sunni led arab partners especially over the iranian deal. And this is exactly why they
send secret letters. Because they dont really want anyone to know. The problem is you cant, in this world pretty hard to do that when you talk about these high level negotiations. By the way its in irans interest to leak these kinds of things because it helps iran. So you cant really put that back in the bottle. What it means is now our sunni led partners are saying wait a minute maybe we dont participate the way we said before by the way well spend time i know this we get phone calls about trying to put this thing back together. Somehow the administration is completely missing that end of the equation and, again, thats very concerning to me. Congressman rogers, thank you very much. Good to have you on the show this morning. Chuck todd whats coming up on meet the press this sunday. We got scott walker after his third win in four years. We know that after iowa, excuse me after wisconsin hes off to iowa and new hampshire. Plus a couple of new members including one of the three democrats who knocked off a
republican incumbent, gwen graham, daughter of senator bob graham. Your buddy Howard Schultz will be on. Really. Oh, my goodness. Chuck todd thanks very much. Well be watching that. Still ahead on morning joe renowned world journalist will be here in a few minute. Peter yarrow and paul of peter mother. And the drummer of the rock group ac dc is charged with murder for hire. He might be off the hook. What happened to the case in just one day . Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. Get to the terminal across town. Are all the green lights you . No. Its called grid iq. The 4 51 is leaving at 4 51. They cut the power. Itll fix itself. Powers back on. Quick thinking traffic lights and self correcting power grids make the world predictable. Thrillingly predictable. Wouldnt it be great if hiring plumbers, shopping online is as easy as it gets. Carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple . Thanks to angies list, now it is. Start shopping online from a list of toprated providers. Visit angieslist. Com today. [ telephone rings ] [ shirley ] edward jones. This is shirley speaking. How may i help you . Oh hey, neill, how are you . How was the trip . [ male announcer ] with nearly 7 million investors. [ shirley ] hes right here. Hold on one sec. [ male announcer ]. Youd expect us to have a highly skilled call center. Kevin, neill holleys on line one. Ok, great. [ male announcer ] and we do. Its how edward jones makes sense of investing. Time now to take a look at the morning papers. Detroit free press a judge is
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journalists. Was also named on a special ops website ahead of a tv interview. Heres cynthia mcfadden. Im not telling any secrets, im not breaking any rules but well have a lot of fun. Robert oneill has been on the motivational speaking circuit. He identified himself in the the Washington Post as the man who killed Osama Bin Laden. Another team member Matt Bissonnette wrote a book in which he described it somewhat differently with three commandos firing shots that hit bin laden. He asked us not to show his face. Two different people telling two different stories for two different reasons. Last year the Top Commander wrote an open letter saying we dont abite willful or selfish disregard for our core values in return for public notoriety and financial gain. Matt bissonnette is now suing his own attorney for bad legal advice. He faces prosecution and claims hes been forced to forfeit 4. 5
million for not properly clearing his book with the department of defense before publication. Hes now publishing a new book before we turn the page here back to politics why are they doing this . Do this kind of operations and keep quiet about it rather than make money out of it. There was no electricity opinion house. No moon that night. How on earth anyone can say with any determination that that bullet fired from that gun was the one that actually finished bin laden. Its almost impossible. He seems quite sure about it. Hes completely contra diktd by a separate account of it. Okay. Joining us now, well talk politics a lot to get back to here. Joining us now from washington, senior congressional reporter at politico, very good to have you on board. So democrats doubling down according to politico on their attacks on the Koch Brothers. Lets start there. None of these approaches have worked. Have they . I feel like both sides are back in their corners and were back where we were to kind of an onramp of getting nothing done again. From the democratic side they they have a villain to run against and it being the Koch Brothers. That when their base, helps bring out money to their coffers. They think it had some effect in michigan and the Michigan Senate race where gary peters ran way with that race. Im not so sure that was the case in michigan. There was a pretty weak republican candidate on the ticket which helped gary peters a lot. The challenge for democrats is what their message is going forward. Certainly they can attack the Koch Brothers and maybe that will work in bringing out those donors to fill up their Campaign Coffers but what is their overarching message to get back to the Senate Majority and take back the white house, running against the Koch Brothers is not enough. Katy . Lets talk about this lunch
thats happening with congressional leaders at the white house today. Weve been having a debate all morning which way this will go. More construction between the two parties or obstruction. Will we get any sense coming out of that lunch where joe said opening positions or whether a deal can to be done . I dont think well get much of an idea. Theres 15 members who are involved in that lunch. Typically in a room like you you wont get much other than your typical talking points. Maybe a clearer sense what they can get done in the lame duck session in congress. That will have a huge impact on the opening months of the new republican congress. That may be a clearer sense there. But im not sure well get any real clarity in how the two sides can Work Together over the next two years. The real trick is when the republican agenda is rolled out and how much input they seek from the white house and whether they seek a more confrontational tone rather than more
conciliatory tone. Ill bet they will take a more confrontational tone and pin the white house back against the wall. Steve rattner. It sounds in terms of the debate weve been having this morning whether well have more gridlock and obstructionism other than getting something done youre betting 5149 on the side of gridlock. I would bet higher than that. If you look at what mcconnell said out of the press conference on wednesday he said we talked about trade and we talked about doing something on tax reform. But as you guys know doing something on tax reform, for instance thats a vvery complicated under take. Two sides are fundamentally divided on whether or not you raise revenue as part of the tax reform deal and all the other interests that are in the tax code. Thats such a difficult thing to do. What about trade. Its possible. Something they can get done own trade. Enough support in the senate to get that out. Other than that what are the other big ticket items they can
get done . Im not sure a whole lot other than getting Appropriations Bills done, getting the general functioning of the government back. Well see if they can do that. A quick one. How much use do you expect to see on reconciliation on getting stuff through the senate with 51 votes. Republicans will try that. They view that as an opportunity to do something on obamacare, not a full repeal but certain smaller things like medical device tax repeal or restoring that 40 hour work week definition. But that still is tricky because the republicans have a pretty diverse conference on the senate side. You have to you night Susan Collins a maine moderate with a texas conservative ted cruz to get that through. Theres no slam dunk even though the republicans have that majority in the senate. Thank you very much. Before we close John Heileman to joes cynically hopeful point of view, i justnd if both sides have nothing to lose. Everything to lose, actually by
continuing to get nothing done. The republicans could look like heroes if something happened in the next few years. Wouldnt that tee them up for 2016. I agree with you. In the abstract theres a lot of incentive for republicans to govern and in terms of setting up again mcconnell and boehner want to win the presidency. They think the only way to bring about republican policy objectives is have both houses of congress and republican president and they recognize the best thing for a republican president to set up a president ial run to get some things done. Again, they are not they are not they cannot do things by fiat in their caucuses. If they could life would be a lot easier. Exactly. Still ahead americans voted on tuesday with economy on their minds and in less than an hour well get the latest report from the Labor Department and steve it will be terrible, right . No. Exactly. Thats my point. Okay. But first a journey across
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how it changes you, and about why you miss it. Why its so hard to come back from war and reenter society. Wow. Oscar nominated director Sebastian Junger captured his 300 mile journey along into Railroad Lines from d. C. To new york city for his new documentary the last patrol. Sebastian joins us now. Good to have you back. I want to get into what inspired this. Did it start with you discovering this video of tim . Tim and i my colleague in afghanistan we were going out of d. C. And looking out the window and say you can walk along the whole line. Probably illegal. We decided to become vagrants walking along the rail line and sleeping under bridges. Tim was killed in libya. Two were getting out of the army. A photo journalist who was holding tims hand when he died in libya. And we did that trip instead over the course of a year. Sleeping in the open, bathing in rivers and avoiding the police. Was any part of this sort of directly, i guess, dealing with your feelings about his loss . You were supposed to go on that trip to libya. Yeah. I was supposed to be with him. I had to pull the plug at the last minute. And he was killed. It affected me a lot. To some degree, yes. I wanted to get to know the country again. These two soldiers were coming home after the war. When you were walking there you talked about war with two soldiers who had served with you in iraq when you were there. How did the conversation evolve
over the course of the journey . Well, we talked a lot about why war is so hard to give up. Why its hard to unplug from it and come home. And actually, none of us were going to go back to war again. Theres a failure rate of 50 . Dave got out of the army and quickly got bored and signed back up and went back to afghanistan. And emo went back to ukraine. Im done. It was interesting to watch us four men struggling giving up that most people think is so hard to give up. It seems like a dichotomy. Explain what you have sensed or what you think is the biggest part of the interruption that happens to a persons life once they go to war, cover war and why there is this almost addictive need to want to engaging it again. War, youre very closely plugged into other people. Right. Your unite youre with. A soldier. This country very alienated, fragmented to society, very troubled society. They just feel out of place. So youre done . Im done with war reporting. Not done with walking. Were still out there. Were heading for the pacific. Going across the country along the rail lines. My husband was a war correspondent for years. He described it life was simple in war zones. Its about staying alive. You come back and life is much more complicated and messy. Thats exactly what it is. As a result its pretty relaxing. I noticed too, daisy had a gopher on her back. Yes. Is she a mutt. Mixed breed. Hbo documentary film the last patrol will debut on november 10th on hbo. Sebastian junger, thank you so much. Always great to have you on the show. Still ahead finding god in the digital era. Americans are more plugged in than ever before but is that coming at the cost of our faith . Thats a good question. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. New york state is jumpstarting business with startupny. An Unprecedented Program that partners businesses with universities across the state. For better access to talent, cutting edge research, and state of the art facilities. And you pay no taxes for ten years. From biotech in brooklyn, to next gen energy in binghamton, to manufacturing in buffalo. Startupny has new businesses popping up across the state. See how startupny can help your business grow at startup. Ny. Gov
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in technology and the fast moving pace of life. And vitt real out there, especially in the worlds that we travel in, in politics. But tell us first of all how people can kind of cut through all the distractions and just find that time and space and mindset to pray. You have to. Especially in a place like new york. I feel, we feel, valuable when were productive. We feel good about ourselves when were productive. Right away, if you spend time in prayer, when youre praying, youre not doing anything, and everybody else thats supposed to happen to you during the tate or youre supposed to get done is calling to you and if you have the discipline to say, im going to pray today, im going to pray regularly, that right away confronts that need to be productive. You have to find your identity in something else. If youre finding it in god or god love or Something Like that, that actually immediately
makes i think your identity and your whole life more stable. I think its a challenge for the Younger Generation especially. But not i dont count us out of this, because in this day and age, in our society, kids are never alone. Theyre always, just always going. And i think it requires not just that youre not productive, but that youre alone with yourself and god. Some of the socks actually are about that. Some of the most famous songs. Like psalm 103 says bless the lord, oh, my soul. Who is he talking to . Hes not talking to god. Hes talking to himself. Thats called selfcommuting. I dont think we know how to to that because werer in alone. Okay, whys that important then . Well, you need to know yourself. As in your life, youre going to find yourself doing things that
surprise you unless you have been alone with yourself to know yourself. I actually as a christian minister think since there is a god, you dont know yourself unless you know yourself in relationship to god. So the solitude of prayer and the practice of prayer is crucial i think for living life. Even though at the moment it feels like youre not being very productive. People tend to turn to prayer when things go wrong in their lives. When everythings going smoothly, they forget to take the time to do it. How much harder is it to start praying, to have that relationship if you havent been doing it regularly. You mentioned meditation in the book. Is it like that practice . Your right in saying that people normally pray when they feel insufficient. Right. Then its a response. When youre feeling selfsuch fish an en, you dont pray. But one of the times you feel insufficient and you start to pray and you get help, you need to make some resolution. Even when i know that even
though im actually life is going pretty well, i still need to collect myself. So when you go to prayer, because youre actually just in trouble, at that time, make some resolution to pray anyway. And i do think meditation in which youre doing that regularly is very, very good for you. You should do that even when youre actually, when youre down, prayer brings you up. When your heads getting too big, when you tend not to pray, you need to pray, because that gives you perspective on yourself. My godmother was petrified of flying. So the people that have created all of this in our world that comes through god that gives us all these distractions to be more productive, what do you say to those that feel like theyve lost religion but they still feel spiritual and they do want to pray and they do want to have a connection with god . Youre opening a whole nother can of worms. I think inherited religion is going away. Religion youre born into. Because youre part of this nation or family youre automatically religiouss part of your identity. Chosen religion, religion that i chose, religion that i make a commitment to actually is on the increase. Thats a reason why in some ways more old institutional religion is going away but newer forms of religion where people chose the religion and in many cases thats very traditional, but theyve chosen it, thats actually growing. I think the reason why theres so much interest in prayer is because whether youre part of inherited religion or the new chosen religions, you still pray. Theres almost universal almost in prayer. Knowing yourself, relationship with yourself and god, being alone consistently, is it okay that youve made the case as to why its productive . In the long run. I just think in the short run, you need to be reconciled to feeling like i got stung today. In the long run, absolutely it maybes you more productive. The book is prayer. Experiencing all and intimacy with god. You can reead an excerpt at our website mojoe. Com. Coming up on morning joe, a new era of bipartisanship or the same old partisan bickering . Were going to try to find the silver lining. Plus, they are adversaries on the world stage. Now pen pals . The secret letter president obama sent to irans Supreme Leader. Well reveal what it was in that letter ahead on morning joe. So i can reach ally bank 24 7, but there are no branches . 24 7 its just im a little reluctant to try new things. Whats wrong with trying new things . Feel that in your muscles . Yeah. I do. Try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates. Do solemnly swear that i will support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic. Shyou see this right . Its 80 confidence and 64 knee brace. Thats more. Shh. I know thats more than 100 . But thats what winners give. Now bicycle kick your old 401 k into an ira. I know, i know. Listen, just get td ameritrades rollover consultants on the horn. Theyll guide you through the whole process. Its simple. Even she could do it. Whatever, janet. For all the confidence you need. Td ameritrade. You got this. Maestro of project management. Baron of the buildout. You need a permit. To be this awesome. And you. Rent from national. Because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. And go. You can even take a fullsize or above, and still pay the midsize price. aaron purrrfect. vo meeeow, business pro. Meeeow. Go national. Go like a pro. So ally bank really has no hidden fethats right. Accounts . Its just that im worried about you know hidden things. Ok, whys that . No hidden fees, from the bank where no branches equals great rates. My attitude about this is trust, trust but verify. Trust but verify . Where have i heard that before . The importance of this treaty transcends numbers. Trust but verify. There you have it. The high watermark of our new era of bipartisan is the Senate Majority leader implying he is to obama as reagan was to the leader of our to totalitarian nucleararmed nemesis, aka, the evil empire. Well, my feeling of despair is brought to me by historical context. Its why old people are sad. Good morn, everybody. Its friday, november 7th. Welcome to morning joe. With us on set, we have washington anchor for bbc world news america catty kay. And former treasury economic analyst steve rattner. On capitol hill, the host and managing editor of tv ones daily morning show news one now, roland martin. I feel like everything in washington is different now and everythings going to be better. Yeah. Right . Are you being sarcastic, mika . No, im so hopeful. Im very hopeful too. Well, i think everythings changing. I think the most important thing is were finally going to have accountability. Republicans on the hill dont get things done, they will pay
for it in two years. The electorates taught them that over the past four years. The same thing with the president. The democrats dont do thing, theyre going to get punished as well. People are getting so excited about barack obama. He came out and he didnt seem to get it and blah blah blah. And now its oh, john boehner, he was so mean, he talked about when you play with matches, youre going to burn yourself. Guess what, these are opening arguments. And as nicole said yesterday, barack obama was casting only to his base when he went out and talked. You have the same thing with john boehner who has more republicans right now working alongside of him than any speaker since 1929. Hes playing to that base. I promise you. Just like i said Immigration Reform would never, ever happen a year and a half ago. When Everybody Knows they have to pass Immigration Reform. Im telling you now, were going
to see Immigration Reform passed. Were going to see reform passed. Hows that . I hope youre right. It just doesnt sound like it. You could be right. President obama is set to meet with a group of bipartisan congressional leaders. Its the First Time Since democrats lost control of the senate in the midterm elections. On wednesday, presumptive Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell sent a conciliatory tone i cant read that because it didnt sound like it to me. Im not sure the word conciliatorys hard, right . Apparently, he set a conciliatory tone for the two years ahead. Yesterday, Speaker Boehner was more direct. Warning against executive action on immigration. And even promising to try to repeal obamacare. Finding Common Grounds can be hard work. But it will be even harder if
the president isnt willing to work with us. Yesterday, we heard him say that he may double down on his go it alone approach. Listen, ive told the president before, he need, s to put polits aside and rebuild trust. The president continues to act on his own, hes going to poison the well. When you play with matches, you take the risk of burning yourself. Hes going to burn himself if he continues to go down this path. Not trying to be snarky, honestly. I just what is different than two years ago, one year ago, three years ago, four years ago . What sounded different there. I dont get it. Again, youre talking about somebody thats giving their open arguments but ironically, these people are speaking to themselves and not the american people. In this case, its good. Its barack obama telling his base, we got drubbed, im not going to panic here. Well try to meet republicans halfway. You had Mitch Mcconnell. A lot of people said yesterday, john heilman, Mitch Mcconnells speech, that wasnt to the president. That wasnt to the american people. That was the ted cruz. And then you had john boehner, his speech was all all of his hard core conservatives. He was telling them, dont worry, everybodys talking about peace breaking out. Were not going to forget what we stand for because we had a massive victory the other night. Everybodys talking to each other. At the end of the day, you have three players who have everything telling them they need to make a deal ahead of 2016. Yeah, i totally agree with that. Two interesting things about that, one, if you listen to talk radio and some of the right wing the far right quadrants of the echo chamber in the last couple of days, theyve been howling, not triumphant in victory but howling at their own
leaders. Telling them not to capitulate. I think joe, youre right, John Boehners talking to portions of his caucus and also trying to let them know, talking also to those parts of the Republican Base and that part of the republican media sphere and saying, you know, im not going to capitulate. Interesting yesterday, the fact that john boehner and Mitch Mcconnell are on the same page. They i think are working very much in tandem. I think in the long run that portends well for the possibility at leetch, the possibility, not the guarantee of, some kind of things getting done, legislation actually occurring. The final split in the senate is not decided as votes are still being decided in alaska and still louisiana where landrieu is only beginning her runoff against republican congressman bill cassidy. For democrats, its obvious frustration. While nancy pelosi will likely remain minority leader, there are calls for a broader
coalition. Reportedly argued that depressed turnout, not the message, was at the root of the problem. On the republicanatives mocked turnout operations and its ground game. The senates Republican Campaign Committee Also suggested democrats shouldnt have side lined president obama as much as they did, because he could have helped turn out the base in key battleground states. Catty, does any of that make sense . There are some saying that democrats the republicans didnt win, the democrats lost this election. You know, you can make the argument if some democrats had made a more forceful effort to run on the positive things that have come out of the last six years, on the record of some of the health care reform, the fact we didnt go over the financial cliff, the energy boom. Theres is steve knows, there is plenty of numbers you can point to, show americas moving in the right direction
economically. By not invoking that, by wanting to run so far from president obamas record, that they give it away for some of the positive things. President obama himself made the case more forcefully in some areas. I agree. Joe. Hey, steve rattner, i wanted to ask you as a businessman who spends your days making deals and you spent decades making deals and been successful in most of them. Whats your take on the Opening Statements of all of these players . Are they just beginning their negotiations . Is this just part of a dance that ends up with dealmaking down the road . Whats your gut . I think your calculus is right. I think all sides should want to make a deal. The republicans should want to go into 2016 showing theyve done something so they have some credibility for the next president s election. Its hard to imagine president
obama doesnt want to leave without getting something done so he doesnt go down as a completely failed second term president. But i think that the both the technical and philosophical obstacles are pretty great. If you take simply immigration, the house passed a bill with i think 68 votes on immigration. The house declined to even consider it. I dont know how that really gets easier this time around. If the two houses get together and pass the bill without a path to citizenship, i think its a relatively high prbability the president will veto it. You just take immigration as a microcosm of the kinds of issues theyre facing, it looks kind of tough. In the senate, you need 60 votes to pass most things. They can do stuff through reconciliation if its a money matter and only have 51 votes. Then again, theyre facing the president and his veto pen. So i think its i dont think that the mere change in these two bodies is going to create deals. I think the only thing thats going to create deals is if the
two sides realize they have a deep investmented interest in both compromising by a much more significant degree than theyve compromised before. They say ive done a lot of deals. Some get done, some dont get done. Depends on both the good will and the selfinterest of the parties. A lot of people asking about the president s press conference. The fact that he may not have seemed to get it. I hear pelosi saying yesterday our biggest problem in our message, it was our turnout. Wrong. They left the guy that masterminded the greatest turnout of democratic voters in 2008 and 2012 on the sidelines. The president s got to be sitting there going, you got to be kidding myself, my fellow democrats. Maybe thats why he wasnt so upset the other day in his press conference because democrat also said they didnt want him around. Democrats did that, but also he also failed there. Look, heres the real deal. I remember when teddy atliss
when Michael Moore fought evanderfield. Said, do you want this, do you want to fight . They didnt want to fight. I interviewed the first lady and she was talking about the economy and jobs coming back. Remember when we came in the office losing 500,000 jobs a month . I visualize that chrysler detroit commercial saying detroit is back. I was sitting there visualizing Black And White video of losing jobs and homes being foreclosed on and jobs shutting down and then color video of jobs coming back, energy, Gas Production being up. Im say, wait a minute, why did i not see that commercial . Why did i not see that . Why didnt you thats a great question. The other thing is here, the president has to own up to the fact that he created this competing infrastructure. The democrats, they dont have a 50 state strategy. They have no infrastructure in a lot of those states for 2012 and it had been created in the last two years. This is a party that had no clue when it came to message and they also didnt fight. The president , you should be going to those Poor Health Care states and talking to those largely white voter, saying, you know, i passed the Affordable Care act for you because the health care in mississippi, alabama, tennessee, arkansas, is horrible. So the people you keep supporting, they say theyre against me on this, when this deal is for you. And ive said it to senior white house officials and even to the president. I dont understand why he is unwilling to throw the punches. You got two years left. You want a legacy . Fight. First of all, i think the president and his wife could have had an impact there. But joe, i guess this is going to sound incredibly naive. You call it opening arguments. I just dont understand why Mitch Mcconnell and john boehner couldnt wipe the slate clean. I dont know why the base needs to hear what they heard yesterday in terms of playing with matches, youre going to get burned or, you know, were going to repeal obamacare and
thats what were starting. What about, you know, its been a rough ride, were in power now hold on. Quite frankly, we want to make it work. Theres some things we want to get done. Theres some things the president wants to get done. We commit to working together with the president. Were going to reach out. Were going to try and make this work and get washington working again. Why couldnt that have been the open argument . I dont understand why that has to be the jerk tone. Im serious. They just all sound like jokes. Am i wrong . Well because yeah, you are. Why . It hurts me to say that. First of all, amen to everything rowan said. The message is very simple. Hey, guess what, unemployments down below 6 . Gas prices are down to the lowest level in years. Health Care Insurance. Health care costing us less than it has in, you know, half a century. A lot of great things to say there. To your point, there are a lot of times, mika, where you will go into court and you will hear
the prosecutors say in front of the jury, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the defendants a murderer. And behind the scenes hes sail, okay, my evidences kind of sketchy, ill give him five years probation. Thats the way it works. In this case, you have the president it hasnt worked. Let me finisfinish, mika, ok. You have the president of the United States saying, i dont care whether the republicans like it or not. Im going to with a stroke of a pen ignore them and im going to legalize the status of millions of illegal immigrants. Youve got john boehner talking about dont play with matches. Youve got Mitch Mcconnell talking about waving the bloody shirt. I think with the president and the speaker especially, theyre playing to their base. I think youre being terribly unfair to Mitch Mcconnell. I think mcconnell did give a tone. You may agree with me, we saw a tone in Mitch Mcconnell we havent seen in quite some time. These are ing arguments. People always said to me, john,
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footsies with the iranians in hopes they will have an effect on isis. The sponsors of the 5,000 hezbollah that came in to syria and changed the balance of power when the Free Syrian Army was succeeding a few years ago. This is not a strategy. This is sort of an ad hoc reactionary failure. Joe, first of all, what do you make of the letter . First of all, our good friend carol lee was helped report on this story, along with jay solomon, the wall street journal. When the wall street journal story hit yesterday, there were a lot of sunni leader, ally also across the middle east, that were enraged, absolutely enraged. They do not understand the white houses policy in the middle east. They think their approach on taking care of isis, as john mccain said, quote, playing footsie with iran. Really the language of a lot of our sunni allies this morning, is not a good one. So a lot of people upset about the middle east, about the president trying to make an alliance with iran, when they see iran as enemy of the middle east. Just point out, november the 24th, to see if anything happens with them reaching a deal on the Nuclear Program. Well see as the calendar ticks down. This other story from usa today where the markets are hoping for a solid jobs report. Major u. S. Stock indices had record highs. The dow climbing more than 17,500 points. With the s p also reaching new heights. Meanwhile, we have economists expecting the october jobs robert to sh report of an increase. Well have that report for everybody later this morning. Interesting. Total disconnect. The New York Post. Bill simmons, who was suspended for his tirade about roger if e goodell, is now publicly trashing a coworker. Making comments about lebron james slow start to the season. The cohost of espns mike and mike in the morning later aired on his show. In a way simmons believed to be out of context. Simmons then send out this tweet among others. What mike and mike did today was absolute garbage. I would say i lost respect for that show but i never had it. Wow. Says he has since spoken to simmons and that quote whats going on here . With bill simmens . Looks like washington. Bills a little on edge right now. According to mike, all is good. All is good. What a cool guy. We move to this one. Voters in bell layer. They headed to the polls in
style with luxuries including valet parking, complimentary food and a harpist to entertain them. The hotel on sunset boulevard, a designated polling location, treated citizens to style while performing their civic duty. Servers offered up lamb chop, chinese Chicken Salad and highend pastries. These are your people, mika, and theyre all liberal democrats too. You should move there. Driving around in their teslas there in california on the sunset strip. The california secretary of States Office says its all legal as long as incentives dont carry along any expectations that people are going to cast their votes for a specific candidate or measures. I think its obvious. The new jersey star ledger. Earlier this week, we showed Nick Wallendas highwire walk. Now may have oneupped the daredevil with this. Being eaten alive by an anaconda without killing himself or the
snake. What . What . Yeah. Discovery says the man did it wearing a custombuilt suit. Heres part of the promo. Yeah. Its not too graphic. Thats the largest species of snake on earth. Anaconda anaconda, right there. Catch it, catch it. Were going to get me inside of a snake. Were going to make me as appealing as possible so the snake says, well, i got this thing thing here, i might as well get a free meal. You have to go head first. Well, of course. I mean, of course you have to go head first. Everybody knows that. Joe, are you going to watch that . No way. No way i wouldnt even watch the high wire thing. Okay. Ill set my dvr and report back to you. Its airing next month. People are getting they jumped the shark. Still ahead, they made folk music mainstream and gave baby boomers a voice during the 60s. Peter and paul from peter, paul and mary join us. We are just minutes away from the important jobs report from the Labor Department. Im sure it will be terrible news because this president has apparently driven this country into the gutter. Keep it here on morning joe. Theyre still after me. Get to the terminal across town. Are all the green lights you . No. Its called grid iq. The 4 51 is leaving at 4 51. They cut the power. Itll fix itself. Powers back on. Quick thinking traffic lights and self correcting power grids make the world predictable. Thrillingly predictable. Twhat do i do . You need to catch the 4 10 huh . The Equipment Tracking system will get you to the loading dock. There should be a truck leaving now. I got it. Now jump off the bridge. What . In 3. 2. 1. Are you kidding me . Go. Right on time. Right now, over 20,000 trains are running reliably. We call that predictable. Thrillingly predictable. Its not about how many miles you can get out of the cmax hybrid. Its about how much life you can fit into it. The ford cmax hybrid. With an epaestimated range of 540 miles on a tank of gas. And all the room you need to enjoy the trip. Go stretch out. Go further. Pressure joining us now, cnbcs chief International Correspondent Michelle Caruso cab berra. Breaking news on the jobs front. Less than expected. Economists were looking for 230, 233,000. Still, its pretty close. We saw the jobless rate fall from 5. 9 to 5. 8 . That was better than expected. Economists had expected it to stay steady. One number coming in light. The other one coming in better than expected. Remember, theyre both calculated slightly differently. Why you would come up with what would appear to be a
counterintuitive set of numbers. Weve seen the futures move higher as a result. Weve seen the numbers s good enough at this point certainly. Michelles got it there, theyre good enough. The one number we talked about earlier thats not good enough is the incomes number, so you still see no growth in incomes and therefore even for the americans working, a pretty tough situation. I think thats a background for the Political Landscape as well. People because arent feeling it. You cant sell them on something they cant feel. They dont have it. They dont have it. If your incomes are not going up. Should also point out the Participation Rate barely budged as well. Thats still a pretty low number. Suggesting numbers in the workforce just isnt high and hasnt picked up very much over last few years. What does it take to get income to start rising . It takes i just sort of end where we began the show a few hours ago. It takes a whole slew of prog m
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whats it like to look back at that . Performing for tens of thousands at the 1963 march on washington. Joining us now, we have peter and paul. Theyre out with a new book, 50 years in music and life. Such an honor to have you both here. You were just singing to me. I was. We couldnt resist it. I saw your response to the puff the magic dragon discussion. I said, thats our kind of gal. Its just about a magic dragon that lives by the sea, right . Its not about anything else. Its about marijuana. No, it is not. Its about pot. Okay. John, john, i know you wrote the song. And therefore okay, tell us quickly about the book. Well have joe jump in for a question. This looks wonderful. Thank you. You had a chance to look through it . It is a huge arc, a huge legacy we inherited and keep on moving. Through all of the activism of the 60s, 70s 80s and 90s and continues today. I love it, joe. You guys did help reclaim folk music as social and a cultural and a Political Force in america. Could you imagine the impact you would have . Not only did you help change folk music and the music scene and the culture, you had a lot of big hits too. You know, joe, first of all, i saw you playing along with graham nash and i know youre not an innocent in this regard. Oh, hes not. You got a real background in this. So let me tell you it was not just it was the whole folk field that allowed people to have a music that expressed their aspirations. For an end to discrimination. And to get together to really make america the kind of country that could be proud that it was
addressing that social disgrace and also moving to an era of real citizen participation. John heilman. I want to know what the songs really about now. Its about the innocence of childhood lost. Are you going to get stuck on this . I love that song. Its meant more to me than almost any song ever. Good. Your hero has been restored to you. Thats not because of your predilection for drugs, i assume. Oh, no. I never knew my angle. Im going to remember it as what i thought as a child, one of my favorite songs. Joe. One final question before we hear you play. Could you all ever imagine when you started playing at the bitter end what would come of you three . Well, i think this is a classic definition of follow your heart and the rest of the world will line up. We were at the right place, the right time, singing music that we loved. The fact that it informed our audience as well as ourselves. When people come up to us and they say we grew up with your music, were like, yeah, we grew up with it too. If you want to know the answer to that question, as you leaf through the pang, of this book, you see pictures of us at the march on washington, with the beatles, with the queen of england. And you know about how we felt about all that. And then youll say, i know how they grew to live the reality. A beautiful book. A forward by john kerry, the secretary of state. Absolutely gorgeous book. He notes in his forward that its not about looking back. Its about saying, can we recapture this spirit that was epitomized at that time and invest ourselves with that idealism and that hopefulness. He says yes, this book will help us do it. On that note, lets hear some
of the classic song puff the magic dragon. Okay, one, two, three. Oh puff the magic dragon lived by the sea and frolicked in the autumn mist little jackie paper he loved that rascal butch and he brought him strings and ceiling wax and other fancy stuff all together sing puff the magic dragon even the cameraman lived by the sea yeah theyre doing it and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called halalie
oh puff the magic dragon lived by the sea and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called halalie together they would travel on a boat with billowed sails jackie kept a lookout perch on puffs gigantic tail and noble kings and princes would bow wherever they came and pirate ships would lower their flags when puff roared out puff the magic dragon lived by the sea frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called halalie
come on in, come on in. Lived by the sea and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called halalie the dragon lives forever but not so little girls and boys painted wings and giants rings make way for other toys one night it happened jackie paper king no more and puff that mighty dragon he ceased his fearless roar and his head was bent in sorrow green scales fell like rain puff no longer went to play along cherry lane without his lifelong friend puff could not be brave
so puff that mighty dragon sadly slipped into his cave puff the magic dragon lived by the sea and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called but hes still there puff the magic dragon and his daughter jackies daughter visits him and he frolics frolics in the autumn mist in a land called halalie one more time puff the magic dragon lives by the sea and frolics in the autumn mist in a land called halalie thank you, nbc. There is no way that that is about anything bad. Thats about life. I love that song. Thank you so much. Mika was almost weeping during that song. It makes me cry. As a child, it made me cry. It did. The wonderful thing is, music of that time really did connect with peoples hearts. It does. Its beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing that with us. You guys have such amazing voices still. You havent lost a note. Okay, where am i here . Also, mika. Yes, joe . As we start to go to break, were actually playing a song that was the first song my mother taught me on guitar. Where have all the flowers gone. And it was your song we would listen to. The reason i started playing guitar was because of this song. Everybody can blame you guys. Thank you so much. The book is 50 years in music and life. Your songs still make me cry. Peter and paul, thank you so
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new york. Were going there. Wish me luck. Come on, girls. Got a long drive. Thats okay. I learned the next time you want to get eaten by an anaconda, go in head first. Thats weird. Thats weird. Always head first. Why are they doing that . I learned that peter and paul are awesome. I learned that joe is the most optimistic man in america. I learned that ratty will only go to cities oh, no. You told me that was off i just learned that its a private plane, isnt it . Im going the high road. Steve, serious. Im going the high road and saying i think it was about a 51 vote for those of us who believe its going to be gridlock versus those who believe its going to be
progress. I think we should take a note from joe and be optimistic. Fair enough. Optimistic, joe. All right. If its way too early, joe what time is it . Well, its time for morning joe and time for sunshine and happiness and optimism. But stick around because now weve got Peter Alexander and the daily rundown. The lowest Unemployment Rate since july 2000. As the economy adds 214,000 jobs. More on the numbers straight ahead. Also this morn, the identity of the navy s. E. A. L. Who killed Osama Bin Laden revealed, or is it . Competing claims cause a stir inside the military. And president obama gepts set to host congressional leaders to talk about the road ahead. Is there any reason for hope now . A very good morning from washington. Im kristen welker. It is a very busy friday, nove 7
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