All right, im here you can ask me all the questions you want me to. I will answer with the same answer. You all can shoot, please im
here so i wont get fined. Im here so i wont get fined. Im here so i wont get fined. Im here so i wont get fined. Im just here so i wont get fined. Hey, im here so i wont get fined. Im here so i wont get fined. You better make more with your time you only have three or four minute. Im just here so i wont get fined. Im just here so i wont get fined. Oh my goodness you know were going to phoenix, we will do a prime time special on the super bowl. If you want to interview him, hes going to say that . Hes just going to say that . Okay. Im. Im only here so i wont get fined. Okay. Its in the contract. Okay thats fair nick. Halperin what do you have to say for yourself . Im here so i wont get
fined. There is new news on this im studying up on both my teams so we can be prepared for our prime time special. It will be very very exciting. Joe, willie is going to interview so this is going to be fun. Were going out to phoenix, but these teams and this super bowl seems unlike any other. Am i wrong about that . Oh, its a ratings bonanza. Its a ratings bonanza, i get that. Im not sure about that attitude. The deflategate with the whole football thing, its really hard not to fall into an inappropriate pun with deflategate. Dorian, do you understand . Like nick this whole bathroom break thing, you fell into it yourself when you were talking before. What did i say . Im always takes baums to the bathroom. Im embarrassed, im turning my head here. There is nothing suspicious about getting a little work done in the wrathroom. Were 12 balls taken into the bathroom, is that what were
talking about . Roughly. Let me read the deflategate controversy surrounding the new England Patriots may well have a suspect. Yes, there is a suspect. Nbc sports is confirming an earlier report the nfl is investigating a patriots locker Room Attendant and his possible connection to the under inflated balls used in the afc championship game. I swear to god. I swear to god. The report cites unnamed sources. They have to the been confirmed by nbc news but at this point we are feverishly going after it. The investigation is reportedly focused on a 90 second bathroom break. Can you deflate by two pounds 12 balls in 90 seconds . That would be in the olympics. I do it all the time. Okay. So the bathroom break taken by an attendant happened right before the game. One nfl source is reported as saying the reporter is seen on
under surveillance tape. Oh good god, more tape carrying game balls after they were examined z. Hesion a person of interestssion hes a person of interest. Maybe so, maybe he wanted to help out. Who knows . Theyre never going to get to the bottom of this. If you look at press day yesterday, it descended on phoenix for super bowl media day, tuesday, and there are a lot of questions about deflate gate. Responses from the patriot itself. Guess what they reveal. Oh my god. You will love this. You no ewhat they revealed . What . Absolutely nothing. We are just focused on seattle this week. Thats it. Its all about seattle. Its all about us getting ready to play sunday. Thats where all of our attention is. Im not really worried about the rest of that. Upon arrival in arizona on monday, patriots owner
addressed the media with a prepared statement. He says if the nfl exonerates their team they deserve an apology. If the wells investigation is fought definitively able to determine that our organization tampered with the air pressure in the footballs, i would expect and hope that the league would apologize to our entire team and, in particular coach belichick and tom brady. So you know what i love about this originally ah its crazy, come on this is funny, deflate balls, ha . That was the first poke. Ten that didnt work. Right. Right. So the next pose was, we didnt do it we didnt do it, we didnt do it. We didnt do it. Come on that is crazy, that was horrible that was pose number two. Hold it up. You are such a 3rd grader. Yeah. Thats just an objective headline. To objectify our friends at the daily news. I cant believe i didnt look. Thats the second pose. First, like oh come on. Right, right. Oh, then no we didnt do it. Now you know where they are now with kraft . By the way, you know theyre at that scene in absence of malice where they go around the table and the da makes a pretty great case and paul newman does this prove it. We are at the paul newman absence of malice stage of the patriots story where they say, prove it. They have under surveillance tapes. They might have it proved. They cant connect this kid. Come on this is a renegade kid going into it would be like closing down the George Washington bridge without permission. Nobody does that. Its a race against the clock. It is super bowl sunday 6 00 p. M. Versus tmz. Because a leak investigation is not going to be done. Its a rocky employee. Lets talk about politics. Can you deflate footballs in a minute 30 seconds . I just did it before i came on. It happens all the time. All right. Solet talk politics. A lot of stuff is going on in politics. Yes, all over the map here in terms of president ial politics as mitt ronlny eyes a run for the presidency the New York Times is reporting that media mogul Rupert Murdock appears to be impressed with jeb bush. The paper details a recent speech of bushs where murdock expressed his admiration to jalry jarrett, especially a section on the economic benefits of immigration reform. Murdock often criticized romney and the former governor appears to be out of favor again should he seek to run again. So mitt romney could not ever
get a break with fox news . Or the wall street journal. Or the editorial page. People are saying why does it matter at this stage that Rupert Murdock is fawning all over jeb bush going pro immigration saying immigration is good for our economy. Why is this a few story . Because the guy helped shape news cover annual for the republican primary more than else e anybody else. He and roger els, more than anybody else derls what millions and millions of primary voters see, how they see it how the stories are frame, what stories are covered and he hated romney. Romney never got a break from fox news. And now he loves jeb and he loves the fact that jeb is pro immigration and, i mean its this is big news for jeb. He did get some breaks from fox news. He did tons of interviews with fox news that were very good for
him in the nomination fight. Rupert didnt have an alternative. He has not only jeb, there are two or three other, including chris christy. I think its good for romney if he runs. Hes liberated now. He doesnt have to spend time in his head how can i win over roger els, how can i win over rupert . Its a different path. Not the fox path as strong as they are. Whoever secures the nomination may have to run against a legacy. That the sort of liberation no republican candidate would want. Having a guy on fox news and running the wall street journal. But catering to fox last time got him if trouble. Trying to win them over got them in trouble. Catering, yes, i know what you are saying. You dont whats the next one . So whoever gets a nomination will have to run against a resurgent legacy of president obama. Look at this the latest gallup poll has his Approval Rating at
50 . It is the First Time Since june 2013 he reached a term level approval of 38 in september. Two months before democrats lost control of the senate. Thats 50 . There are a lot of people around the white house that didnt think theyd see that again. They are riding high. We saw that in the state of the union last week if terms of the president s practice have a to do, lets say. I was going to use another football term. They are riding rye right now. They will ride it out as long as they can. Nick we have been sitting around the table and said the president delivering the speech he delivered may not be good for the state of the union, may not be good for compromise may fought be good for getting things done if washington, d. C. But it was good politically. We said that in real time. Good politically for barak obama. These numbers bear that out. Thats right. He is entering the stage of the presidency, he can do what he
wants. He is in the facing any more elections or midterms. He is saying heres who i am. Its always powerful for your base, to hear from the president s party and him saying, i believe if these things. I will do them. Damn you guys if you dont go along with me. So weve always talked about how the republicans compared to these diminishing poll number now resurgent poll numbers. How does this impact Hillary Clinton . She seems to be distanceing herself from president obama, she seems to want to drive a wedge between herself and the relationship of the administration. She left her position. You barely everything points to her distancing herself. Does she now change her tune and we all fall for her . Her advantage, right, is to be able to run with a lot of the advantages of an incumbent, without actually being an incumbent. Right. So she wants to be unchallenged in the primary with a ton of money early, but not the saddle with whichever part of the gender are fought good for her. She has already started. I think it might have been in the times she is distancing
herself from barak obama. The economic footballs go well. So she decides shes going to run with obama. Shes going to pick and choose and act like clinton on the campaign trail. If it pays to throw them under the bus, theyll throw them under the bus. If it pays to hug them tail hug them. Yesterday it was reported the coke brothers are pouring 800 million into the cycle. The cokes effort will put enormous fundraising pressure on democrats and liberal outside gruchls allies of Hillary Rodham clinton expect she will need to bring in more money than president obama, the most successful fundraiser in president ial history. Its no wonder the candidates show up when the coke brothers call say david axelrod, thats exponentially more money than any party will spend. In many ways they have superseded the party. Nick talked about that. You know the scale here all
right, a billion dollars is just astonishing. It is so much money. For the guys that went for the president on the right, this donor gathering. Right. There is no bigger single concentration of outside of the stablement money on the right. By the way, i am so glad you said that. That the key. At that time what surprised me. When i was out there just going around talking to people why are you here just doing basic reporting . These people dont love the Republican Party. In fact, they are there, Mark Halperin, because they dont trust the republican establishment in washington, d. C. A lot of them have just checked the box through the years, yes, im a republican. Yes, im going to send to rnc or to this group or that group. Or i will send to karl rove. I think karl roves failure if 2012 talking to these people, it was the last straw. They were like were not going to trust you anymore t. Coke brothers i guess it was what two years ago basically said were
going to run ground operations were going to physical out how to do this because the Republican Party is a failure. Whats fascinating about this is now the rnc and rightly deserve, they are doing a pretty great job. You got them. But they are being superseded by the code new yorker. Its only a matter of time before you see a Democratic Group do there. Just because thats this is a part of the process, you can say Citizens United. But the internet of fundraising outside of washington, d. C. , its just making this the wave of the future. People focus on the raising. There is very little doubt because of the people involved that theyll get to that number close to a billion. What matters is how you spend it. Do you spend it well . You can blow through a billion dollars on consultants and weak ground game and have very little impact. Whats intriguing about this its scaring smart democrats is after the last cycle. Theyve proven as an outside
group, they request do ground. Let talk about this. The percent annual of the candidates they picked and they followed and they put money on nationwide, not only in the federal level. On the state and local level, like now, of course there was a wave election. It was a wave here. Theyve done the best they can do if 2010 2012. Maybe it will be 5050. But they its all very there are Business People who do metrics. Look at 2004 remember a bunch of liberals spent millions of dollars to try to get john kerry elected. They tried to do ground game failed. Thats right. He did a better job. This is a group of people who understand you have to spend it not waste it on consultants, thats what democrats may not be able to match. Fought just the money, how much raised but how efficiently its spent. You look at charles coke the coke brothers split. Its very interesting, they show david, i know david, but charles, charles is the driver of this. A true believeer. Sort of in charge of the seminar you guys were at. David is involved in more of the politics of americans for prosperity, their pane grass roots. Charles is what all my contributors early on called a true believeer. I think both feed approvals. Yeah hes more libertarian than conservative. You Start Talking about social issues, you request just see a wall goes up. It is a real sort of conservative leber taern approach and they dont trust republicans if washington. But they want a republican president. They do make no mistake, if they get a republican president that spends as much money as george wind chill bush spent, they will consider that as big a
failure as a democratic president. These events these seminars started in the bush years as a reaction to the bush angry angry at karl rove and george bush for Medicare Part d and the iraq war. That is one of the understandingings here and why we were glad to observe this. You are exactly right. This was born out of the establishing consultants class in washington, d. C. That sperngsd sperngsd spend, on the programs. I thought the different programs they had the conversations they had address some really interesting questions the kind of questions we address here at the table. A surprise to me and i had liz coke have you ever met her . Shes a ball of fire. Shes got this Incredible Program for helping the poorest of the poor kids in several inner cities that she is
development. Its everything you dont think and you dont know. So there are different facets of the story you get to see when you go and observe event like this. Its an interesting approach. Its the first time they opened to the press. Exactly. They were not conservative columnists and so on. Which by the way i think it was a great move having john karl out there. It was a great move having mica out there as a liberal. I think it was very important. Because it could become more trenld. Dont you they thats the move. That where theyre going . You know political scientists for the last 20 years have been do you meaning the decline of the party and the rise of. We calm it center politics. Weve seen these trends. This seems to be the mark of a few era on this. Its often about money. Whats happening, theyre watching them outsource a lot of expensive tasks like media and data to outside groups loosely partnered with. The part first raise money at 10,000 and 20,000 a pop. If you can raise 100,000 or a million a pop and fund those outside groups its very efficient. We started with the mccain in 2002 we saw the rise of 527 groups before Citizens United. This is long before Citizens United. One is any of these groups start negative ads against Hillary Clinton this year. The other is the super packs for the candidates. A lot of people at that event, what are they going to do and will they write 10 million 20 million checks . That can make a difference sooner than these groups do. We have so much more to get to. All right. You guys just drove right through the news here. Well get to it though. Rear admiral john kirby and senator pat toomey will join us and sixteen kenny g will be our guest. Plus the most famous missing
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