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MSNBCW Morning Joe May 22, 2015

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Ive got a much better idea, lad scotts ez seed uses the finest seed, fertilizer and natural mulch so you can grow grass anywhere thanks, scott. Ez seed really works get scotts ez seed. Its guaranteed. Daughter do you and mom still have money with that broker . Dad yeah, 20 something years now. Thinking about what you want to do with your money . Daughter looking at options. What do you guys pay in fees . Dad i dont know exactly. Daughter if youre not happy do they have to pay you back . Dad it doesnt really work that way. Daughter you sure . Vo are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed . Wealth management at Charles Schwab. Welcome back to morning joe. Top of the hour. Richard haass. Great shot i guess it was out in the hamptons. Yes, beautiful. Memorial day weekend. Willie, what do you have planned . Just going to be with the family. Kids. Christina. Just chill. Richard haass, any middle east peace plans . A long three days im sure all we need. Daughter back from college, so it will be nice. And steve, you have a graduation. Yes, last child graduating from college. Last one. Until they go to graduate school. Its a big moment. Thats nice. Im just kind of hanging out put on my sweats and tshirt and walk around you are not. You know youre going away. My sad pathetic life. Im going to take speech class. Ill be back on tuesday, remedia speech class. The rain in spain falls mainly on the plain. I cant talk just when i get nervous about it. I did not think this would happen. Only time she gets nervous im in the alone here. Youre not alone. Willie lets start with some shocking news out of washington. Yeah, this is big breaking news overnight out of washington. Police confirm 34yearold daron wint suspect in last weeks brutal murder of a d. C. Couple one of their children and housekeeper was captured last night without incident. Police say she followed thethey followed chevy before about taking him in. Hes suspected of holding the family and housekeeper hostage before killing all four and torching the house. Law enforcement sources told wnbc thursday they believe wint took a bus to new york city before returning to d. C. Police tracking him in part through a phone they obtained from his girlfriend. She was not arrested. Police say she was cooperative in all this. Among the dead Savvas Savopoulos who was ceo of a Metal Supply Company where wint worked from 2003 to 2005. A relative of went oigints was fired from the company. They were killed after someone delivered 40,000 in cash to the house. The home later set on fire leading police to the bodies and familys car found burning in a Church Parking lot in maryland. Grainy video showed a hooded person leaving the scene there. But the biggest break in the case came earlier on thursday when Police Matched wints dna to the crust of a pizza found inside the house. That right there is the linchpin to this whole case they have now arrested the man based on finding his dna on the crust of a slice of pizza in the midst of all that death and fire. Cops zeroed in on that. And federal marshals as clint van van zandt said. Lets move on to politics. Yesterday we laid thoughts on jeb bush from a focus group. They didnt positionntidnt think much of jeb. Scott walker doesnt have a degree from college. Is that important to you . Should a president have a college agree . Its irrelevant. Anybody in the room who thinks not having a College Degree is disqualifying . Like you wouldnt vote for someone without a college glee . Degree . I hate to say it but its bothersome to me. I dont know why. I cant tell you. But it just strikes me as i think that the president of the United States should have a College Degree. If he was nobody i think it would bother me p but because hes been a successful politician and a good governor it doesnt bother me because hes proved himself. Hes already jumped the hurdles. What do you know about marco rubio . I like his background and i just like the way he looks and i saw him a little bit on tv last night and i thought, man, hes talking good stuff. You got a little built of a crush on marco rubio. I to. I think the kids call it im crushing on him. Hes the american dream. I think thats exception, folks get refugees from cuba and he built himself p, a self made man. He still gives a lot of credit to his parents and stuff, but i think thats what you look for in the United States. What do you know about Carly Fiorina . Shes a woman. That is true. She talks pretty straight. I think she could hold her own with anybody in a bar fight or a discussion. Against hillary. She could give hillary a run for her money. Ive heard that shes a good communicator. And last two winners were Mike Huckabee and rick santorum, but these voters seem very recent hesitant to support those two. The people we like or choose doesnt seem to follow through, but the country doesnt follow through. Seems like every time we go in santorum, huckabee twooo conservative for the country and as soon as they leave iowa theyre done. Mika we started about this College Degree. Youre a couple hours short from getting a college glee from what i understand. But you were talking also in the break about how he has debt. Yeah. According to state financial records, hes got 10,000, maybe much more than that in credit card debt. He has a car loan. I mean nothing against the law, all within the realm of what normal americans confront trying to raise a family work and balance budgets. And i wonder if at some stark contrast by the way. Such a stark contrast to all the gazillion theirs in this race. Headlines have been you forget about a 75,000 contribution to the clinton found days, chin to bes making 25 million, 30 million since 2014 in speeches worth 200 million of course and the bushes have money. And they have had money for generations. And you can go down the line. Im just wondering if, willie a guy who didnt graduate i think in his final semester because he needed to start work and is carrying around debt like most americans, if thats not actually pretty appealing in the end. I think thats a big part of his appeal. People like the scott walker because they can relate to him, he shares their concerns and problems. And ive always found that while he didnt go to college question so obnoxious. You go to college so you can hopefully hopefully achieve things in life. He has achieved things. I hope its not a part of the debate. If you look at the two people who did more to change our world, you would have to look at steve jobs and bill gates. Neither one graduated from college. Am i right . Nor did mark zuckerberg. So lets talk about the three people that changed the way that we get news, pass along information, communicate with each other. These are the people that have changed our society more than anybody else they did not graduate with a College Degree. Some degrees earned some not earned. But on the financial side marco rubio is in a similar situation as scott walker. I think hes cashed out his retirement savings. He doesnt have a lot of money and hes living more like an ordinary american than the rest of these candidates. Gene i wonder if these things were hearing about scott walker actually some critics might see these as negatives hey actually end up being more positive in the age of, you know candidates worth 200 million. Yeah, i think if scott walker goes down i dont think it will be because he fell a due hours short of a College Degree. I dont think thats relevant. Hours short of a College Degree. I dont think thats relevant. Money question tends to work both ways. There is also a sense out there that well, they have money so they dont need to be corrupt basically. They dont need to grub after money. But maybe people will relate to walker. Well see. Im still wondering how he will play on the National Stage as opposed to the wisconsin stage. Im not sure either. But when you just look at the clintons and some of the gaffes involving money, they talk about it as if you know, dead broke or i got to pay the bills. Those things i would say you could go into emailgate and all these other things, those things rub me the wrong way. Well see what happens. This next story is fascinating. We have a great panel to talk about it. We have somebody who obviously has been involved with the Peace Process with Richard Haass and two former reporters this london. Gene robinson you worked in london early 80s. Yes, i did. Along with steve rattner. So the story of this hand shake will have special resonance with you all. Lets go to ireland where a historic week is coming to a close, the first hand shake that is generating headlines across the world. And that handshake just explain what everybody around the set understands, jerry adams shaking the hand of Prince Charles whose favorite uncle was assassinated by the ira and many people would think jerry adams certainly had a hand in that as a leader in that organization in the 1980s. But theyre shaking hands to reconciliation. Lets go to dublin and bill neely. Bill obviously were talking about your backyard. Weve got a close friend of the family, really more like a member of the family from Northern Ireland, who still hasnt for given Mark Mcginnis for shaking the queens hand and jerry adams on the list as well. Im sure its a shock to a lot of people in england that Prince Charles would shake the happened of thehand of the man involved in the assassination of his favorite uncle. Joe, it is still jaw dropping. The only analogy for american viewer imagine if somehow george w. Bush in 20 years had managed on shake the hand of osama bin laden. Obviously that cannot happen because bin laden is sded, butdead, but thats the seismic handshake that this was. As you say, Prince Charles shaking the hand and meeting for ten minutes with jerry adams, political leader of the ira, which murdered Prince Charless great uncle, the last british vice vice viceroy of india. Jerry adams said the ira did to him, monbaton, what did he to others. So along comes Prince Charles. Remember, hes colonel and chief of the parachute regiment one of the British Army Regiments loathed by ira supporters and he shakes the hand of jerry adams. And looking at the two of them, two 66yearold men born within weeks of each other, adams reaches across whispers in irish in his ear 100,000 welcomes. I mean this is extraordinary stuff. And i think its part of a Peace Process that brick by brick is still being built. And you saw when the queen came here to dublin some years ago, the words that she used extraordinarily well chosen. And charles also in a speech had well chosen words about the profound pain that he felt and that he now understood others felt. All of those who had lost people in the terrible war not only in Northern Ireland but a war that spilled over here into the republic of ireland. So as you say, historic doesnt even begin to sum up that handshake. I was talking about people in northern ive land shockreland shocked, but you say more people in england would be shocked and it plays into jerry adams Long Term Plan politically. Adams has still not ever admitted that he had a role in the ira, provisional ira. He denies he was ever a member about that. Nobody really believes that, do they. No, but that is his argument. So for Prince Charles to do this without having gotten something in return will be controversial. And it will help adams, his party now the Strongest Party in ireland. Not just Northern Ireland. So it reinforces the idea that jerry adams will move beyond the phase of his being quote unquote a terrorist. So it serves very much his political narrative. Gene robinson in your time in Great Britain London Bureau for the Washington Post, im sure you could never perceive that day coming obviously with the assassination and the yearly bombings it seemed. Moths most shocking thing to me is how jerry adams made peace and walked tight rope and stayed alive. This must be one tough feerd man in Northern Ireland. Hes got to be. I mean people dont remember just how bloody this conflict was. But there were bombings in london when i was there in the 90s. Remember the ira tried to blow up Margaret Thatcher in brighton in a Terrible Hotel bombing. Went on and on. And fascinate being that this is happening now right after more information has come out alleging a substantial role in terrorist acts by jerry adams. And yet they went ahead with this handshake. So its fascinating. It will have reverberations in britain for sure. Steve rattner, richard touched on adams interest in this handshake. Why would Prince Charles do it . Well, you have a situation in the uk where its threaten to go almost dissolve, where it puts scotland, Northern Ireland and even wailles talking about independence. So its in britains interests to try to bring them closer together. But just my time in london i remember it wasnt just at the Prince Charles, but the antipathy of the average english person toward the irish was very strong, as well, because of the bombings. So it was really top to bottom. Bill neely, i want to ask you, how does jerry adams survive . How does he im continually fascinated by how he has gone from revolutionary to statesman and how the most extreme elements of the ira, theyre still there, havent turned their guns on him. Well, you mentioned Michael Collins a revolution their leader fromlead leader in the 1920s who was assassinated to putting his name to a piece of paper which was regarded as treacherous. You could say jerry adams has the ghost of collins on his shoulder at all time. Adams has survived one assassination attempt by loyalists. There are three groups who would regard what he has done as traitorist. So hes a man i think who will always look over his shoulder and of course as an early revolutionary, he did what revolutionaries often do, he went from house to house, he changed cars regularly, me sure that his movements werent well known. But he is now trying to establish his Political Party as a force north and south of the border. So in two countries, although in one island. And gradually the troubles are fading away in peoples minds and he is beginning to have a presence here in southern ireland, in the republic of ireland. So he is still potent political force. And quite a historic vote today and very very catholic country. Tell us whats going on today and whether were going to have a shocking result by the he said of the day as it looks like we may. Well, weve been talking about the 1970s. Todays vote is a vote about the future and who would ever have thought that ireland would be the first country in the world to put the issue of gay marriage to the whole population. So in the u. S. Obviously gay marriage is decided by states and will be decided by the nine justices of the supreme court. Ireland has decided to do it differently, threw the whole thing open and today 3 Million People will vote so o. Whether to insert a line in the irish constitution that gay marriage shall be legal. Its an astonishing issue as you say for a country that is catholic conservative, where the church had extraordinary power. That power has withered away and today people will decide on this contentious social issue. But it will be amazing if as the polls say that ireland will pass this measure, it would be only the 18th country in the world do that. So really an extrao

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