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Transcripts For MSNBCW Morning Joe 20150619

We love our country. Most importantly, we love each other. And i will tell you, there is a lot of prayer in this state. So youre going see all of us try to lift these nine families up in prayer because they need us. And emotional governor nicky haley spoke yesterday as officials announced the suspect in wednesday night ace Fatal Shooting in charleston, South Carolina had been captured. The nine victims are being remembered from coast to coast today. Prayer vigils were held across cities ashgs cross the country club chicago, Denver Portland and more than a dozen lawmakers gathered on the capital lawnol lawn. Its almost impossible to imagine the tragedy. Good morning to morning joe. Were live in washington and we have New York Times reporter Jeremy Peters white house correspond for American Urban Radio Networks april ryan Pulitzer Prize winning communist and editor of the Washington Post and msnbc political analyst, Eugene Robinson and president and south korea of the askman institute, walter isaac son aloaningng with willie geist in new york. You know its hard to even really try to bring any reasoning to an act this heinous. Ive got to say, as far as acts of domestic terrorism goes you have to line this up with newtown and, of course the greatest act, most horrific act of domestic terrorism, Timothy Mcveigh did in Oklahoma City. But this is just one of those scars on the american psyche that will be with us for a very long time. I think. So and yesterday morning live on our show the police chief said they would get the suspect. They would find him. And they did after a massive manhunt. Federal and local Law Enforcement found 21yearold dylann roof nearly 250 miles away and waiving extradition, he was flown back to South Carolina in shackles. Hell be back in court this afternoon for a bond hearing. Roof is accused of calmly going to Emanuel Ame Church and sitting in a bible study for a better part of an hour before killing nine people including some of its most senior members. Gene this is your home state. This is actually your great grandfather had a Blacksmith Shop . My great, great grandfather had a Blacksmith Shop not far from where the church is. And, obviously, a Critical Church not only for the state but for the country. But, boy, there is another mark for you on troubled legacy. Yeah. It is just stunning. The pastor who was assassinated basically in, this act of terrorism was also a fascinating person. He was a rising theological and political star in South Carolina. But, you know, they call this Church Mother emanuel. It is the oldest ame church south of baltimore and the third oldest in the world. It was a charleston institution found in 1816 when the founding members who organized what would have been the biggest slave revolt in American History had it not been found out he was executed, the church was burned down. Right. In retribution. It literally was rebuilt from the ashes. And survived all this time. Yeah. And, walter we find ourselves again trying to make sense of a senseless act. You turn on the television or turn on the radio and youll have everybody predictably going to their ideological corners trying to explain this tragedy away with mere ideology extremism. It just it cant. Sometimes it just cant. This sort of hatred cant be explained away. Absolutely. Youre talking a guy who is just pure filled with hate. Those people exist. I do think thats why the president said you know be good if we got around it to if, we made sure people didnt get guns like. That but more importantly this is not a random act of domestic terror. This is eugene said is part of a long history weve had, even in this particular church. But in black churches and in black neighborhoods around the south. And i do think it fits into the American History which is racial violence. And especially racial violence in places like this where the hatred bills over into racism. Lets get more on the suspect himself. Were looking at who this guy is. Investigators trying to piece together a picture of the suspect. We know earlier this year he had run ins with the law, arrested on a felony charge of selling a prescription. On his Facebook Page a photograph of him wearing a jacket adorned with apartheid era flags of south africa and rodisia. Now disturbing details emerging about his state and mipd in the days and weeks leading up to this massacre. The Associated Press reports roof reconnected with a childhood friend he didnt see for five years and started railing about the Trayvon Martin case about black people taking over the world and the need for someone to do something for the sake of the white race. The friend named joseph meek jr. Said he saw roof wednesday hours before the attack and that the next time he saw him was when a surveillance image was broadcast on television. He told the ap, i didnt think it was him. I knew it was him. Here is meek talking about the suspect yesterday. Im speechless. I dont really know. It hit me hard. Yeah. Seeing my best friend on there that youve known for seven years do Something Like this is pretty crazy. He wanted segregation. He wanted to be white with white and black with black and he didnt, you know he didnt believe in what the black race is doing to the white race. For more on how this suspect was caught eventually in North Carolina, lets go to charleston. Benjy sarlan has been on the scene. Its a remarkable woman involving a woman in florist in North Carolina using what she saw on television to let police know she saw this man. Thats right. Officials here from the police to the fbi to attorney general Loretta Lynch talked about how the incredible amount of resources they had devoted to catching the shooter after he initially got away despite a massive manhunt in the hours following the shooting. In the end it was the American People themselves that are really responsible for catching him. Starting early in the morning yesterday around 6 00 a. M. Police were the first time released the images of the suspected eded shooter and later a car they believe was associated with him, a black car. As it turned out, it was those images which were distributed widely on social media, people distributed paper copies in neighborhoods that ended up being responsible for the capture. That happened when debbie dills, a florist in North Carolina a four hour drive away from charleston spotted something unusual on her way to work. Here is debbie herself talking about that to nbc news. I seen the white tag on the front of the car that had been another picture they showed on the news of something a little emblem with a black circle in it. I said oh, lord. I got of the business exit. I called todd. I said i think i have just passed that boy that killed those people in charleston last night. I said i dont know. I dont want to be you know overreacting or whatever. He said you need to call somebody. I said im going back out here to get back on 74 to see if i can catch up with him and get his tag number. I turned around and started back and when i did, i thought im going to turn back around and see if they at least pull him over you know . If i can get close enough to see if they pull him over. And todd called me and he said debbie that, was him. And they caught him. Im crying every time. I cant not cry. Its just an incredible story, this woman on this off chance actually late to work. Normally she would not have been traveling that route at that hour and spotted this person. And there is some satisfaction here that a community shattered by this incident came together to personally catch this man. Willie, im just amazed listening to her testimony. Yeah. And the fact she pursued him after the fact went out of her way to make sure he didnt get away until the police arrived. Remarkable woman. Debbie dills is her name. Benjy sarlin thanks so much. Back to you in d. C. Thank you, so much willie. And that remind you of how boston i was talking about acts of domestic terrorism, how the people of boston came together. April, were about to take a look at who the victims are and were and the incredible contributions they made. But first, your thoughts just overall taking this all in a day later . Its painful, you know . Eugene has roots in South Carolina. I have roots in North Carolina. Its many days that was the place the state where they found him. Many days i was in the country with my grandparents. There wasnt a day we didnt go to church for week night missionary meeting or Prayer Service, bible study. Part of the fabric of the bible belt down there. And a place that is sacred. And the thing that gets me is theyre talking about love hope and god. He sits there for an hour and just kills the people. Its mind boggling. And what i think and i was telling eugene this earlier, i think what happens is the nation is starting to see the truths of the scars of the nation. And because theyre highlighted now, and i do believe because we have the first black president , were seeing more of the ills within the black community. And were seeing them visually with video cameras and things of that nature. He talked about that. The ferguson the freddy gray. Because we see these things some people are not able to accept the truth. And they go off and do Something Like this. Its its really and it is really everybodys responsibility. I think everybody will step up to it. To do the exact opposite of what he told a friend he wanted to doen that is start a civil war. Were going to talk about the president s response in just a moment. Were also learning more about the nine lives lost in charleston on wednesday night. They had gathered at the Emanuel Ame Church as they did each week for bible study. Among them four ministers, a Library Employee a speech therapist, and a recent College Graduate all ranging in age from 26 to 87 years old. Nbcs craig melvin has their stories. Reporter charleston is a city in mourning nine are dead six women and three men. Among those killed the churchs pastor clementa pink any, a 41yearold father of two who preached here since he was a teenager. God, we welcome and invite you into this place, your house. We thank you for the spirit that dwells here. Reporter pinckney was also a member of the state senate where a black cloth was draped on his desk for his memory. He was the moral come pass of the general assembly. Reporter several people that worked at the church are among the dead including Depayne Middleton doctor a Church Minister who retired in 2005. She was a mother of four. Shah Rhonda Singleton much she was a speech therapist. Tywanza sanders and cynthia hurd, a 54yearold Branch Manager at st. Andrews library in charleston which will be renamed in her honor. Last 24 hours have been devastating. We all were agonizing knowing she left home to go to church and not hearing from her for so many hours. Reporter also confirmed dead 87yearold Susie Jackson, 70yearold ethel lance and Daniel Simmons. A community is coming together to remember nine lives, tragically taken in their place of worship. Thats craig melvin reporting. The range of ages of the dead 26 to 87. Among the survivors, a ayearold girla 5yearold girl who played dead under a table to she wouldnt be shot either. Lets go to the South Carolina house of representatives Bakari Sellers. We talked to you this time yesterday. We were in the middle of a manhunt. Now 24 hours later, whats the moot down there . Well, were still heart broken. Its still a tragedy that is heart wrenching to ing toing to say the least. But people in this area are tired. Were tired of all the death that shrouded our communities. It was a month ago that we buried walter scott. This Church Family has been through so much. These communities have been through so much. South carolinas been through so much. And right now were just looking for a hug and compassion and love. But we do have faith. We do believe we will make it through this storm. Bakari were looking at the faces and names of the nine victims. Beautiful faces and so much youth and potential on the one hand and so much life lived on the other. What can you say about these people who lost their lives wednesday night prayer meeting, a place nobody should have to think about that . Well on wednesday night, just like churches throughout the rest of the south, they gather together for a singular cause and common good. And its troublesome. It troubles my spirit. I have to ask if you cant be black in a church where can we be black in this country . Its unfortunate that this man was filled with so much hate and i really want to now live my life for these nine people and add them to the list of people whose lives were cut short but at the end of the day, whenever im done with my journey, i want these nine people to be able to look down upon me and say job well done. So we have work left to be done. But were going to bring this community together. The progress we made is fragile but we dare not let anybody tear us apart. Bakari what can we say out of this as a positive . How do we make sure this doesnt happen again . What do you think are the things that can be done by the people of charleston the government by this country to prevent Something Else like this from happening . Well, we have to begin a conversation about race. And i know that thats not something that people really want to talk about. But at its core we have to talk about our differences. We have to talk about things like love and hope and peace and justice and truth. Those are the conversations that we really and truly need to have. Those conversations are very, very healthy to have. And people want to have some more conversations about policy areas like gun control and other things. But first, i think this Community Needs to grieve. This Community Needs to heal for the next few days im sure were going to scream. Im sure were going to cry and yell because we have nine funerals. We is we have nine bodies to buries and there is a group of people that wont have a father to go home to for fathers day. And that sir, willie, is a tragedy. Former state representative Bakari Sellers, a leader in the community and state of South Carolina. Thanks so much for being with us this morning. Please give our love and condolences to everyone down there. Thank you. Keep us in your prayers, willie. We will. Guys . Thank you willie. You know gene just a part of what bakari said if you cant be black in a church where can you be black in this country. Then you look it other side of the issues that weve been confronting over the last 12 six months trayvon, ferguson baltimore, Police Issues. Its the same question. Where are you allowed to be just a typical american citizen, not black or white jutst a human being. And how do you think those incidents and that conversation about police abuse and what weve seen happen over the last 24 hours charleston impact progress that we snad. Made . Good questions. The direct tangible link between the Police Violence stories weve seen and this horrible incident was the pastor Clementa Pinckney who in South Carolina state senate was champion of the legislation to require officers to wear body cameras, for example. Very involved in that. And more broadly an issues of social justice. So there is certainly a relationship. This is so different though. This is this is nobodys con flatingflating the two. But if youre a young black man or woman and you have a sense of hope because of black president and a black attorney general you see one side of it that gives you nothing but hope. But then you turn on the news and, again, not conflating any of the Police Stories with this act of terrorism, but it has to also fill you with the same time with an equal sense of hopelessness. Well and anger, frankly. And anger. If there was a there were reports that in the church this guy roof essentially said you know, black people are taking over our country. And that sense that its somebody elses country. No, its our country, too. It belongs to all of us. Weve been here much longer than a whole lot of people. The pinckney name of course comes from the plantation owner and signer of the declaration of independence charles pinckney. Pinckney name has been in South Carolina longer than this has been a country. And the idea that people dont understand the contributions that africanamericans made in literally building this country is appalling. So were going to still have on morning joe an emotional president obama responding by one estimate it was his 14th time making a statement after a shooting. And congressman jim clburn will join us and our interview with Martin Omalley

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