Now, i kind of think that if youre going to get paid 250,000 for a speech, it must be a brilliant speech. [ cheers and applause ] it must be an earthshattering speech. Written in shakespearean prose. [ cheers and applause ] [ crowd chanting bernie ] and if that speech is so great, i think the American People have
the right to hear it. [ cheers and applause ] whoa. Um. Mika, what a massive crowd in new york city last night. Something that Hillary Clinton is going to have to get used to seeing over the next two weeks as we move towards the New York Primary. And hes going there in a big way on the issue of those speeches. Bernie sanders addressed an audience of between 18 and 19,000 people. Who gets that crowd . Bernie sanders. The nicks used to get it years ago. Would donald trump get that crowd. That would fill Madison Square garden. Trump can get that crowd. He can get a crowd. 18,000 or 19,000 . Well have to ask donald. Lines stretched around the park where the event took place hours before sanders, Bernie Sanders, senator from vermont, 74 years old, talks like larry david. Democratic socialist. Not even a member of the party. Look at that, everybody, and
tell me whats going on. I understand Hillary Clinton has a lock on this, but what is going on here . Before he addressed the main audience, he spoke briefly youre being sarcastic when you say she has a lock on this . Everybody tells me she does. The numbers seem to say it. Im not being sarcastic. Can we talk about the smart key. Look at these clouds. It looks like part of woodstock. I mean it smelled like woodstock, too. Did it . I was there last night. A lot of pot. Excuse me, i was at woodstock, the only person who on the set who was at woodstock. It smelled like i imagined woodstock, how about that . Much better. Better said. Young kasie. Oh, my gosh. Thats amazing. So are they voters . Are they young people that might show up. This was one of the diverse crowds ive ever seen Bernie Sanders have. It was still on the younger side but there were latinos, a lot of people speaking spanish. Its new york. Its the south bronx. And they were obviously the same
people waited four hours. They couldnt figure out the Sanders Campaign was very frustrated the cops wouldnt let the thousands of people they said they were going to let into the main park so you had this Baseball Field full of pocket. Ive been out of pocket in the south of france, a. K. A. Baltimore, and ive been hearing about the Clinton Campaign talking about sanders tone and kind of really you can tell theyre feeling defensive. And now i see why. Now i siee why. Because i dont know what hes attacking her on except the issues. Is there some personal story hes going after . Theres not and thewere called out when they got on the air and started talking about his tone. Its a joke. His tone does not even approach the tone in the republican part party. In fact, the complaints are about issues. Im sure they wont like the tone, mike barnicle, of Bernie Sanders talking about wall street speeches and making that
much money, it must have been a very good speech. We talked about this yesterday. Many people believe in both sides that shes going to get a betting in wisconsin, possibly handily, and shell have to endure a couple weeks of that bad press and a really bad new york media. And big rallies. And huge rallies across new york. But shell win. Well, you have to back me up on this. I dont think its the tone of Bernie Sanders campaign and his rhetoric that is aggravating the clinton people and especially former secretary clinton, its the fact that her leads have collapsed in state after state after state. This is her home state. This was where she was elected to the United States senate. She began her president ial campaign with a near 50 point lead over Bernie Sanders. Its down to 12 and perhaps shrinking internally, we dont know. So its her frustration, the campaigns frustration in dealing with a 74yearold
democratic socialist from burlington, vermont, that they cant put away. Shes lucky there are those ticks against Bernie Sanders. He cant make the argument shes trying to make, im a historic candidate, potentially the first woman president. This is somebody who we treated as frin new jersey tge in the b hes come so far. It tells you about the mood in the country. Its real. Ive been to these rallies. To a certain extent you get enured to thousands of people showing up day after day after day. But somehow people who dont do that miss that that is where all of the energy is. By the way, theres no way Hillary Clinton can draw those type of crowds. She never draws those types of crowds, she never comes close. And it may not matter. The sanders crowds are interesting, again i refer to you, youve seen more of them than i have, theres almost a
joyousness in the crowd. And the response to some of the issues. Trump gets response to funny things. People go crazy when he talks about wall street or the speeches or this and that. There is like a real mood and intellectual connection. So you wouldnt know because we havent had a chance because of me. Lets bring in John Heilemann then well introduce everybody else after weve already talked for six minutes. All these good looking people. John, it seems the very least the one thing these clouds, Bernie Sanders continued success even as all the smart guys and smart women say oh, hell never win. The one thing certainly we can say without a doubt is that if for some reason james comeys investigation, which he is taking very specific interest in, does not turn out well for Hillary Clinton, you will not be hearing calls for al gore or
john kerry or joe biden to be out there. This is at least half of it, this is Bernie Sanders party right now more than any of theirs and this guy has proven hes got the stuff. 100 right. Hes been a phenomenon, obviously, for the past year and the fact he continues to be a phenomenon in the face of, as you put it, so many of the start guys, including a lot of people, including me who said the delegate math is so daunting hes unlikely to be the democratic nominee. Thousands of people show up not just in spite of that but in some sense because of it. They are furious with everyone say this race is other and its causing his supporters to rally around anymore the more passionate way than they did before. Heres the reality. She has gotten a couple million more votes than hes gotten despite the fact her crowds are smaller. And that is the bottom line. But i will say and this is
something the Clinton Campaign will admit privately is that if Bernie Sanders gets to spend time in a state on the ground, sustained period of times, on the air with advertising, on the ground with rallies, he is consistently proving he is moving votes and that she has benefitted to a large extent from a lot of these multistate primaries where he doesnt have enough time to go there and spend time there. Here in wisconsin, hes had time, hes moving votes and her worry is that with two weeks between wisconsin and new york, the same thing will happen there and if he were to win in new york, the symbolic even by one vote, the symbolic blow to her candidacy would be huge. And lets also look at a couple other things. Weve been obsessing over Donald Trumps weakness as a general election candidate because his disawe proou disApproval Ratings are in the 60s. Hers are in the 50s. Its not good for a candidate with high disApproval Ratings to get blown out in wisconsin if that were to happen then come to new york, lose her home state and have somebody going state by
state by state knew that these contests are more spread out and doing very well. That doesnt help the approval disApproval Ratings. It also doesnt help the knock against the dnc from the very beginning its not a knock, its the truth. This process is rigged and its been rigged on the democratic side i crassly said it months ago. Since they rigged it in iowa. And shot themselves in the foot. They have super delegates which rig the process early on. Debates. They rigged the debates and despite that, Bernie Sanders is doing exceedingly well and those super delegates can change overnight. Theyre not likely to change overnight. I doubt. It but im saying lets see what happens with the fbi investigation. Lets see what happens state after state after state after state. Lets see what happens with those disApproval Ratings. There are im only saying this to say for those that say
theres no way Bernie Sanders can win, youre just wrong. Those are the same people who said donald trump couldnt take a run at the republican nomination. But the data in new york shows she wont lose her state. Another poll out of wisconsin, though, shows Bernie Sanders leading Hillary Clinton in that state. The fox business poll has the senator out front by five points, 48 to 43 . That poll comes as Hillary Clinton was forced to confront hecklers during a speech in new york yesterday and respond to an activist from the ropeline afterwards. Students at suny purchase interrupted clintons remarks by chanting if she wins, we lose. Then a greenpeace activist caught up with clinton when she was shaking hands. From the time we started doing polls back in the great depression, when asked do you think things will be better theyve always said yes. Oh, i know the bernie people came to say that. Were very sorry youre leaving. [ crowd chanting im with her ] you know, wait, before can i just say this . As theyre leaving i want to say i have earned nine million votes in this election. [ cheers and applause ] already. I have one million more votes than donald trump and i have 2. 5 million more votes than Bernie Sanders. Are they lying about her . Thats a little different than jeb sitting there talking for about 20 minutes, somebody asking him a question on whether he should take money from fossil fuels and she said im so
sick the Bernie Sanders campaign issued a statement after video on that last interaction that we saw that hit the web pointing to a greenpeace analysis claiming clinton has received contributions from 57 oil, gas, and coal industry lobbyists. The Clinton Campaign responded by saying that by that same metric, senator sanders has received more than 50,000 from individuals working no, come on. Actually, that was a greenpeace activist, that somebody from Bernie Sanders camp, at least what the news reports say and, you know so she doesnt have a lock on new york . No. I dont know. John heilemann, what do you think . Does she a lock ott new york . I do not she does and i dont believe the Clinton Campaign thinking she does. She will come in as the frontrunner without a doubt and she has a stronghold on a lot of constituencies in r that matter a lot in new york city but sanders will be a strong
candidate upstate. He may be a strong candidate on long island. He could be a quite strong candidate in brooklyn and queens. So she will be the frontrunner and rightly so, shes won statewide in new york twice, but it was ten years pag ago and sanders will give her a run for her money and thats why bill clinton and Hillary Clinton have been here in new york and not in wisconsin. Whats amazing about the Clinton Campaign is they take unfortunate facts as lies and character smears. You talk about them making money in speeches, thats a character smear. No, its truth. This greenpeace activist last night told her the truth, asked her a question about shes taken money from oil, gas, and energy companies. Thats not a smear, thats not a personal attack. Thats a question based on things that have happened on your record. Certain
certainly its not Bernie Sanders or the greenpeace activist. That statement the greenpeace activist went on to say its no wonder that back in December Clinton refused to stop taking money from the fossil fuel industry. She was asked about it at a town hall and she said im not going to do a litmus test. The reality here, the transcript thing, push out your transcripts, is probably the closest thing he comes to making a suggestion that is a characterrelated attack. Otherwise its very clearly naftarelated. The question about the transcripts goes to a certain extent to this trustworthiness question. I dont think its a personal attack. I would love to see the transcripts. Thats like asking somebody to release their tax returns. So its a transparency related issue but i will say if this is negative and you have a problem that this tone that Bernie Sanders is leveling at you, youre looking at trump. The clintons have been around for decades. Theyve seen much worse. They arent personal attacks. Not only have they seen much worse, theyve done much worse. She received hundreds of thousands of dollars from the very companies at the center of the debate about where our economy is right now. She received money for speaking to them privately during the time between the time she was secretary of state and running for president. She knew she was going to run for president. What did she say to name is so different than what shes saying to us . We deserve to know. Thats the issue related question Bernie Sanders is focused on here. I think he has a good question. Well, thats certainly not personal. Nothing personal about that. During that same speech in new york yesterday, clinton criticized senator sanders for the way he responded to Donald Trumps recent comments about abortion. Last night, senator sanders agreed Donald Trumps comments were shameful but then he said they were a distraction from and i quote a serious discussion about the serious issues facing american. [ boos ] to me, this is a serious issue. [ applause ] and it is a very serious discussion. Look, i know senator sanders supports a womans right to choose, but i also know planned Parenthood Action Fund and naral endorsed me because i have led on this issue. I have fought on this issue. [ cheers and applause ] this is a fundamental constitutional right and we can not think it is anything other but really serious. Look, i have a 100 prochoice voting record. There will be no president who will defend more strongly a womans right to choose who will take on governors trying to restrict that right. Its a campaign and secretary clinton will say what she will say. The difficulty of dealing with donald trump is that everyday there is another absurd statement coming out. Its just simply hard to deal with every crazy statement that
donald trump makes but there is fwhoeb will defend a womans right to choose more than Bernie Sanders will. Yeah, i mean theres nobody that believes Richard Haass that any woman president of the council on foreign relations. Good morning. That anyone is going to be thrown in jail for having an abortion. That is a circustype statement that even right to life groups denounced yesterday so it is she was just using it to make it look like Bernie Sanders is trying to its sad. But it does highlight the narrowness of senator Sanders Campaign. That theres a line of attack there for her which is that if hes only focused on economic nationalist issues it leaves out certain social domestic issues, it leaves out certain Foreign Policy issues which play to her strength. I dont think if you look at his record he has a record on this issue. He does. All im saying is if youre Hillary Clinton. And its very hard to compete with senator sanders on the economic nationalism which is so
powerful and central to his campaign. You want to broaden the conversation into social issues and you want to broaden the campaign into Foreign Policy issues because that i think plays more to her comparative advantage. I would say thats more of a personal attack she took by twisting what he was saying. All that comes as the money continues to pour in for senator sanders. After raising 43. 5 million in the month of february, the Sanders Campaign announced yesterday that they surpassed that total in march, raising more than 44 million. The Campaign Says its now received about 6. 5 milli6 pn. 5 contributions from two million donors. 97 of the cash theyve raised has come from the online donations. John heilemann, 97 of the money raised online. You want to talk about a game changer. This campaign changes everything weve ever thought or known
about money and politics. Well, look, weve now seen the internet has become the crucial tool for fundraising. The big question now for any candidate who runs for president is how can you create a brand that works online . Some candidates who are very good candidates are not able to do that, barack obama obviously was able to do it. And Bernie Sanders, i think, somewhat surprisingly has been able to do in the the sense that hes not obviously cool. Hes not obviously kind of like the hip candidate, right . But hes got this