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Theres been so much pressure like in colorado, which was a total fix. The people all wanted to vote. They took away their vote. They said theyre going to do it by delegate. Oh, isnt that nice. I end up winning louisiana. Then, when everything is done, i find out i get less delegates than this guy that got his ass kicked, okay. Give me a break. Now, you may have noticed that when donald loses he gets very unhappy. He yells and screams and stamps his foot. He curses and yells and insults anyone nearby. Look, as we know in the state of california, wine is something best served with cheese. There you go. There he is, just for you. He did that just for you. He did i like that line. [ laughing ] wine is okay. Good morning, everyone. It is tuesday, april 12th. Welcome to morning joe. With us we have managing editor of Bloomberg Politics and cohost of with all due respect airing at 6 00 eastern time on msnbc, Mark Halperin. Former Communications Director for president george w. Bush nicolle wallace. Professor of the university of Michigan School of public policy. I mean, look at this guy, former democratic congressman harold ford jr. He charges a lot i finally got somebody to talk to about the masters. Nobody could talk about it yesterday. Did you see the final round . I did. Looked like something hit another ball that was amazing. Literally went out for like five minutes. And when i came back in he had gone from he was on his way to a consecutive masters win and one of the most dominant runs in golf to looking like you and me. Joe can hit the ball. But from holes 10 to 12 his history there at the masters which has been short. He was one under. He goes from 10 to 12 and shoots six over. Bogey, bogey, quadruple and changed the trajectory not only of the tournament. I just hope hes young. People wondering whether he can recover from this. He will. Thats a question. Rory recovered. Greg norman never recovered. Hes so young. Sometimes you recover. Sometimes you dont. What happens . Its like a mental . No. Thing is about golf two days ago. It was sunday. You guys need to get a life. Its a tournament like no other, though. Nothing like it. Also with us. This was a very long digression. You know what hes thinking about . Uhhuh. When is harold ford going to be back on morning joe. If we had only put you on friday, none of that what would happened. We have one more introduction to make with this. Political writer for the New York Times nick confessori. How about news . How about some news . Really . Donald trump appears headed for his first majority victory one week from today. We have to do some afternoon hours, but i have a proposition to make for management. Lets just go till noon. I like that. I think we should talk to phil about that. Seems kind of silly to, right . Should we really be negotiating i want to stay on for six hours. We did that four years ago. We would be on from 6 00 in the morning until noon. I like turning the tv on and seeing you guys on in the afternoon. You do . It doesnt always sink in so early. Shes negotiating against us. Thanks, nicolle. As the nbc wall street journal marist poll finds him at 50 among new york republican voters. I thought he was finished. Seriously, wisconsin because i was looking, keep that up there. Trump has 54. Kasich at 21. Cruz at 18. I got to tell you, Mark Halperin, i saw the returns come in from the outskirts of appleton, wisconsin, and i read the newspaper, and i go on the twitter. I thought donald trump was finished. I thought that was the end. They told me he was done. Right. All of the sins of donald trump had caught up to him. Okay. No, im serious. How could this be . You can go home again. Im flabbergasted. The northeast is good for trump. Wisconsin was bad and this is shaping up to be a spectacular state for him. Really . Are they all going to state when he wins new york that its all over, like after wisconsin . All over for trump or against trump . Its always against trump. Will they say this time its all over . Im saying, seriously, the jack asses who have been doing this for nine months should stop embarrassing themselves. Its getting old. If he performs well in new york hell be back on track with the majority. Wisconsin will be a distant memory. Whats insulting to me, harold ford, so few things are insulting to me, but whats insulting is you cant state politically obvious things, right, without people saying, oh, youre in the tank for trump or oh, youre supporting trump. No, no. We just can actually look at the earth and see that the sun goes down and that its actually not flat. There have been a lot of flat earthers out there for nine months. Yep. Who have been writing stories in the Mainstream Media that donald trump will not win. Then when it looks like he could win, he is a nazi, a fascist. I think robert reich compared him to mussolini, hitler and stalin. You combine that, thats about 50 Million Deaths between them all. Its not funny but i guess its just because, you think about it, donald trump is still friends with omarosa which tv guide once listed as the top ten villains of tv in history. I suppose there is a reason why they could draw the connection. Stalin killed 30 million of his own people. Maybe theres that connection. I dont know. But i do know political reality. The political reality is, for whatever reason, whether you support him or dont support him. Donald trump is in a strong position while a bunch of idiots last week were predicting his demise like they were since he went down that elevator with his big, beautiful hands. As you say to the Washington Post. Big and beautiful. No. Im asking harold ford. What . How do you feel with this campaign analyzing this campaign if you cant tell the truth . I was on with you guys about a week ago, and we analyzed the david brooks column. Said he needed to get out of his office and get down to try to understand the electorate better. You have a week. Whoever wins they get the burst, they get the energy and the attention. One thing that has not happened to trump is that his voters have not left him. In fact, people seem to be more intrigued by him, by how he answers and how he responds with adversity and toughness. After wisconsin, no doubt the establishment thought they could regroup, rejuvenate and find a message to perhaps puncture him and take the air out of that balloon. It doesnt look like thats happening here in new york. If he wins with the numbers coming out in the last 24 hours, mark, you know better than i do, looks like he can win all the delegates. 50 plus one here. Nicolle, another example of somebody who has relatives supporting donald trump. You yourself not supporting donald trump. But youve been saying this strongly for the last couple of weeks from people, again, who just dont want they dont want to report the truth, they dont want to hear about the truth. Yeah. Listen, i think, at this network weve done a more careful job than at other networks where what you will to be true clouds what you can plainly see to be true. I would say that the drama of the night was lost on what you just described, this sort of jubilation that he had a setback. All that happened was it became possible for him to maybe not get to 1,237. Nothing else happened. Exactly. Nobody else had a possibility and nobody else has a possibility of getting to 1,237. I think people really get lost in what the drama is and isnt. He didnt crumble. He didnt crater. Actually, the question of the night that hes now answered is can he adjust, can he make improvements. He plainly has and can. He has made, Mark Halperin, a number of adjustments. I mean, i dont know if he maybe hes called in to one or two shows. But he is putting statements out. He is having his campaign guy go out and make the nazi analogies. Lets just lets not over celebrate . Yeah. Im not. The point is he has a surrogate. He hasnt had one. He has a surrogate. I am not over celebrating. Im not under celebrating. Im doing what ive been done from the beginning. Ive been boring. John madden. Thats a 15 and out. He completed that pass. First down. Move the chains. Thats all im doing. Sorry. So hes moving the chains down the field. They can hate the fact that you have to tell people who john madden is. Hes still in danger of not getting the majority. Even if he does super well in new york, and going to the convention short and not necessarily winning on a subsequent ballot. He has not locked it up. Im not saying hes locked it up. Alex says last sunday was the first sundayless trump in five months. In five months. Im just saying, all the things that people said he needed to do hes starting to do but you dont see those stories. Lets see. Whats it say theyre not. Lets see if there is something about donald trump setting a dumpster afire somewhere here in new york. There has to be something. Trump took his campaign to albany last night insiden a arena with a capacity for 17,000 people. After losing dozens of delegates to ted cruz through local Party Meetings and state convention in colorado last week, trump railed against the delegate process. If i go to the voters of colorado, we win colorado. So its a crooked, crooked system. You know, we think about democracy and we think about our country. Let me tell you a little secret as far as our country is concerned. We have a democracy, but weve got to keep our democracy, and were going to do that. And its very interesting. Its a very sick system. And ill tell you what. Maybe in addition to winning, maybe well clean up the system so that in future years we can have an honest contest, we might be able to clean up this dirty, rotten, disgusting system. So, as we said yesterday, nicolle thats one way to put it. As we said yesterday he is on to something. Totally. Totally. We said that was our theme of the show. The rules are the rules. Rules were laid out clearly. None of his people have any reason to complain about it. But as far as a Campaign Message goes, the system is rigged. Right. How people feel. Thats as good as it gets. Thats the Bernie Sanders message. He is back on his core message. His people are animated because theyve felt for years through democratic and republican administrations that the economy is rigged against them. They have looked at the republican establishment and the people who govern under the banners of republican in washington saying theyre going to repeal obamacare or whatever and this is what animates his supporters and i think gives him the opportunity to grow his base to other people who feel like the establishment in politics and the establishment economy is rigged against them. I think this is a good message for him. Bernie sanders has taken the Campaign Finance message and said that these big givers have rigged the system. Yeah. Hes taken his you dont lose by talking about things being rigged against everyday, hardworking middle class americans. If your message is to empower. Its become a universal thing and theyre winning with it. Ive covered politics for a fair number of years. I cant explain to you the delegate selecting process in colorado. Its impenetrable. Its not rigged in anyones favor, but its not a democratic system. No. Its unbelievable. Votes dont count. Nick confessori, i went to read one of my favorite conservative writers yesterday at the National Review and for him to explain why trump was whining. I accept about colorado. Because the rules are the rules are the rules. I got about halfway down it and said, wait a second, let me start over again to try to figure out when exactly the people of colorado had their chance to vote. It ended up they had the chance to vote in the fall but not for candidates but for delegates. Im not going to go out in like the fall and vote for tom, you know twoheart through driving snow. Oh, i think im going to go 30 miles and sit in a caucus room and vote for tommy. Tommy t. So its just. Its a very convoluted process. It seems to play, in colorado at least, right into trumps rhetorical hands. Big, beautiful hands he tells the Washington Post. Trump here i think is standing in for the average person who has no idea how the whole system works. Voters have been going into the ballot box in primaries the same way theyve been going to voting booths in general. They think voting for a candidate. It turns out theyre voting for a person who votes for a person who votes for a person who vote for the candidate. Its a system that actually has not been stresstested in the modern era. And so trump, who has no idea how it works. He wakes up one day and he says, wait a second. Makes sense. I should say. Its malpractice. Not criminal. Political malpractice that his team did not recognize this and prepare for it. Any other candidate of measure has been figuring out how to win at this part of the process, and the rules are the rules. The Republican Party is defending itself. Members of the republican establishment have defended the colorado rnc. Reince priebus tweeted the rules were set last year. Nothing mysterious, nothing new. The rules have not changed. The rules are the same. Nothing different. The states republican u. S. Senator cory gardner weighed in. Ted cruz showed up to the colorado gop convention. Donald trump sent a surrogate. Cruz swept. Elections are won by those who show up. I have attended state conventions for years. It requires organization and attention to grass roots to win. Cruz had it, trump didnt. End of story. That wont work. Whats that . Wont work. It just doesnt. Not when you have voters involved. I get it. A lot of states have these kinds of rules. The voters, the people of colorado dont go to the voting booth and dont go to the caucuses. Theyve got these party conventions. Ted cruz was kind of mocking him about it, almost like a do you want to see that . Yes, i do. Would that make your morning . He did it, as they used to say, especially for you. Oh, please, roll it. Donald has been yelling and screaming. A lot of whining. Im sure some cursing. And some latenight fevered tweeting. All the characteristics i would note we would want of a commander in chief. The latest thing he seized upon is when people vote against him, theyre stealing the election. Its a really odd notion. Well, what is this democracy of which you speak . Wait, wait. You mean voters get to vote . No, no, no. No, no, no. They dont really, but okay. What do you think, mika . I love it. Its so fun to watch. Do you really . Yes. What do you think, nicolle . Well, i think that his message of i think what he is doing is smart. Hes got a very smart campaign. He has the best campaign operationally. Absolutely. I think theyve used technology. George w. Bush in 04 had a good campaign. There is no way that would happen on its own. Theyve innovated and done the best in terms of putting together a ground game. I dont think it should be the message. I think when campaigns mix process with a message its a loser. They should do what theyre doing because theyre playing by the rules and doing it better than anybody else. But it shouldnt become the message. The message should be to win the hearts and minds of the voters. Trump wins talking about the voters. Mmhmm. What about that pause he has . I mean, i want to watch every ted cruz state of the Union Address with mika. Oh, my god. I will drink. I will pick up the bottle. The pauses are great. And i dont. I couldnt. A british playwright. Won the nobel a few years ago . For pauses. Rush limbaugh is good at pauses. Its the cruz pause now. He is not afraid of silence. Of the quiet. Still ahead, bono Takes Center Stage on capitol hill. The u2 frontman and political activist joins us live ahead of his testimony today before congress. Former republican candidate senator rand paul joins us here on the set. Plus, film maker ken burns with his new documentary on jackie robbins. Bono, ken burns. Rand paul. Back again. But first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. Bill. Let me show you something that was fairly fascinating from the denton, texas, area. Outside of dallas. Softball size hail. Look at this pool. This is baseball chunks of hail into the pool. Wind gusts up to 40 miles per hour. No tornado but this was bad enough. A lot of windows smashed. Even peoples living room windows were smashed in texas yesterday. A lot of cleanup today. The storms are over. Just a soaking rain on i10 from new orleans to mobile, panama city, pensacola. Light rain up through the carolinas this morning. As we go into the northeast, bring your umbrella with you. This morning youll need it. This afternoon youll carry it home. The sun might even come out. D. C. The light rain is moving. Rain moves quickly in and quickly out. By the time we get to about 11 00 to noon, d. C. , philly and new york, the rain should be just about done. Boston, 2 00 to 3 00 p. M. The rain will be done for you. Then the warmup begins. Especially in the middle of the country. Central plains. Tuesday, wednesday. Minneapolis 70 degrees. By the weekend, even the northeast will see temperatures well above average. 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