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heartbeat away from never being president. Of. Of. Of. Of. Welcome to morning joe. On board with us this morning washington anchor for bbc world news america katty kay. Council on Foreign RelationsRichard Haass. Good morning, richard. Good morning. Former Campaign Communications worker, msnbc i know you knew it. I know you knew it was carly and 4 00, rick tyler is with us. I guessed it. I could see it in his eyes. He flinched when i said is it carly. In washington managing editor of Bloomberg Politics and host of all do respect Mark Halperin. Willie weve got the host of the spectacular, stup endous
sunday its willie sexy sunday. Steamy sunday mornings with willie geist. Well be there again sunday Morning Bright and early, 9 00 in new york, 8 00 elsewhere. Powerful. Profiles of the parker guys. Met in high school, had an idea why glasses cost as much. Turns out they dont have to watch as much. Youre wearing them . I was customer number three. Passed out downtown, right . I look up my glasses are broken. Some guys pull me in, right . That was your a ha moment. Aha. Willie stole all my cash. I didnt have that much. That was a rough night. Im sorry about that. That was rough. Escalated very quickly. A happy ending. Tell us a story, when you passed out in the street and something great happened. Is that when you got your job at bbc. Never happened. I have never got so drunk ive passed out in the street. All right, guys. We have three big stories. Donald trumps Foreign Policy speech, bobby knight. Thats a good one. Carly fiorina. I can say candidate Hillary Clinton, bill clinton, they should be in their movie room eating popcorn and watching the show. She was off the trail. I would watch this and go what the hell is going on. I want quick reactions first. Poof. Of course you do. You want to back into it. You want everybody to talk about it. You released a tweet i agreed with, after the speech you said, its obvious if donald trump wins the nomination, were going to have to be dealing basically with media thats just unhinged about donald trump on both the left and the right. The reaction of the speech yesterday, i was trying to get some sound, Foreign Policy reaction. I couldnt. It was hyperbole on both sides. Tell us about your reaction. Foreign policy unsettled. Both parties, theres lots of debate. Was this the most specific speech ever . There was not. Flaws and contradictions . Yes. The reaction, left and right, Lindsey Graham, dan pfeiffer, former Obama Administration official both attacking it for the same reason. It shows trump will face something if hes the nominee that i dont remember any general candidate taking, fire from both sides and supposedly reporters who mocked it and didnt try to break it down in any serious way and basically just reflectively says if trump says it, it cant be with a serious thing. A problem for trump. The same story over and over again. They have done this from day one. They get a Foreign Policy speech. The first reaction is mocking and ridicule. Richard haass, there was, though, a very definite Foreign Policy strand of thinking there that represents its the jacksonian strain most closely
resembles jacksonian stream of how americans in the deep south felt about Foreign Policy for quite sometime. Quite consistent with nationalist position, economic nationalist above all. Consistent with views on trade, opposition to quote, unquote, free trade, opposition to immigration. Very transactional approach with allies. Essentially you pay up your fair share or were not going to consider you an ally. Again, as you would say, jacksonian. I thought intellectually the most interesting thing rejection of what you might call transformational going after 43 and barack obama and literally echoing the words of john quincy adams. America goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy and donald trump had a riff off of that. United states is not going to run around the world trying to make the world our enemy. Had he, in effect, if
everybody hadnt been mocking him so much, they would figure him out politically. This is how they missed the rise of donald trump. He positioned himself to the left. Shes the neocon and hes the one preaching restraint. Its ironic. 1992. 1992 George Herbert walker bush is president. Bill clinton runs for president. What does bill clinton do, he positions himself not to the left, not george mcgovern, Michael Dukakis but to the right of george bush on the use of force in serbia and bosnia, a bit of political jujitsu no one saw coming. What was inning about the speech in this case clint about to get out flying to the left. What donald trump was saying in some ways had echos of Bernie Sanders. What you have is a much more narrow vision of what the use of American Force is abroad and
more broadly the balance between guns put aside world war ii and unfortunate echos there. Essentially what youre saying a narrow use in the world, restrained use of military force. Whereas one clinton flying establishment to the right, you have another clinton being outflanked to the left. This is an interesting political move. Jacksonian. Where youre isolationist, antiinterventionist at the very least. Youre challenged by an enemy abroad. You go over, you destroy them, you wipe them out, you come back home. Isnt that where the contradictions or the lack of policy specifics in the speech fell down . Its one thing to say were going to go abroad and wipe out isis quickly. But if you dont have a plan for doing that, and he was pushed on the plan for doing that and doesnt come up with, what
youre saying doesnt mean very much. Its great to say we will go out and wipe out isis, its a very hard thing to do. Of course it is. A lot of paradoxes, a lot of conflicts. Remember, Ronald Reagan elected 1980 on strength. He was asked what is your strategy toward the soviet union, an issue that had been vexing american politician since 1947. He said we win, they lose. That was it. It was in 1980 as hostages were being captured and held for 444 days, thats what americans as political messaging. Thats what im talking about. I dont think anybody here would suggest we want to go back to jacksonian Foreign Policy. Im just saying not like again donald trump came out of left field with this. Hes once again with this speech tapped into the angst. And barack obama for not sounding tough enough. Lets take a look at what he said. Donald trump focused on Global Affairs in this major speech in washington reading from a teleprompter he vowed to, quote, shake the rust off americas Foreign Policy, pledging to pursue what he called America First strategy as president. My Foreign Policy will always put the interests of the American People and American Security above all else. Has to be first. Has to be. Americans must know we are putting the American People first again. On trade. So true. On trade, on immigration, on Foreign Policy, the jobs, incomes and security of the American Worker will always be my first priority. Both our friends and our enemies put their countries above ours. And we, while being fair to them, must start doing the same. I challenge anyone to explain the strategic Foreign Policy vision of obama clinton. It has been a complete and total disaster. After secretary clintons failed intervention in libya, islamic terrorist in benghazi took down or consulate and killed our ambassador and three brave americans. Then instead of taking charge that night, Hillary Clinton decided to go home and sleep. Incredible. There were some typical detractors to Donald TrumpsForeign Policy speech. Republican senator Lindsey Graham tweeted his questions for trump, are we sure the guy running the teleprompter has the pages in the right order . Question number two, did the teleprompter write the speech. Not making any sense. There were also voices who saw clear substance in trumps remark. Conservative Grover Norquist called the speech sober, thought through, written down. This speech, and the impression it gives, changed the tenor of the race. Before the republicans, now drawing a contrast with hillary. Former ambassador to United Nations john bolton said the speech put trump in the mainstream of american Foreign Policy. Thats surprise. Three heads of the table turned that john bolton said that. Former speaker Newt Gingrich and bob corker had more praise. To be honest, after the kind of campaign weve had over the last ump teen months that has been pretty painful to watch, i was very pleased with what i heard. I thought it was a great step in the right direction. I thought it was full of substance. I thought it laid out a vision
for america. I will say somewhat rhetorical myself this week, i saw a headline one of the major publications that you and i both read. The headlines were foreign leaders were afraid of donald trump. I have to tell you, rhetorically, it was kind of a pleasant surprise. If you think back during the reagan era, many of the people around the world that are friends are really scared of what he might do. He looked president ial. He looked serious. He looked controlled. Overall i thought it was a good presentation. The speech itself is a very serious speech. Youre going to find it ridiculed by washington establishment in part because it challenges so many of their assumptions. That was Newt Gingrich live from a bank elevator in washington, d. C. Strange. But interesting coming from newt. Good to hear from him. Bob corker also, chairman Foreign Affairs committee, willie. Not to be taken lightly. Bob corker is a pretty serious guy. Bob corker, you could say this is the party rallying around donald trump, see whats coming down the road and positioning for a position. But bob corker started saying message to the Republican Party, stop making fun of donald trump, stop trying to stop donald trump and listen to the people voting for him and supporting him. Hes been out there earlier than most, i would say, on donald trump. That was a pretty strong endorsement of the chair of senate Foreign Relations. Someone we respect. Former politician from the deep south, what donald trump said yesterday is what you hear at town Hall Meetings all the time. I understand youre saying that. It sounds great but and then you explain. We need to be more engaged on this issue, on that issue. Politicians like me have been saying that to people for 20, 25 years. At this point, no, dont tell us about why we have to do this for
china or that for saudi arabia. America first and thats the response hes getting. Thats what bob corker is certainly hearing in his town Hall Meetings in tennessee. I think the speech yesterday from trump was a microcosm of his campaign. A great slogan about american strength. There werent particulars but people who love and support him werent looking for particulars. They want to be reminded he would put America First. If youre in the middle and dont like him, it was ridiculous. Just like if you did not like Ronald Reagan in 1980 and you believed Ronald Reagan would start world war iii, which a lot believed, yes. Im curious, not just frustration that barack obama has not sounded tough enough. Oddly when you say this is a rejection of obama policies, obama has also been a president who has pulled america back from foreign engagement. This is quantifiably different
from george bush. Over the last eight years weve seen america hes stepped up again a little bit in iraq and syria. It would be interesting to see what donald trump would advocate. He already said lets let the russians take care of syria. Thats pulling back in a disturbing way. Beat them fast, youre not going to beat them fast without doing something. Trump was effective pointing out contradictions with the policy and historical weaknesses. The biggest in the eyes of most people not making good on the red line threat to syria and trump basically hammered away on the lack of reliability there and the iran agreement. Basically saying we were too anxious for the agreement. You have to be willing to walk away if youre negotiating an agreement. Theres a lot of people who think just that. He also said we have to be unpredictable. One of the areas of the speech a lot of this conversation reflects there were such tests here. Theres a difference between Foreign Policy and political reaction. Foreign policy people focusing
on inconsistencies. What youre also hearing are political reactions which are positive for the most part. Did he say exactly on any level exactly what he would do . Did he go deep into policy . Was it a bit primitive, basic, to the gut . Yes. I guess what i take away is what i see is republicans like corker, and you even heard paul ryan on our show say i can work with him. I think what some might have seen yesterday, this is just me watching the reaction, well, i could work with that. Which is better than, whoa, that is frightening, wrong and that is not where we want to go. Specific language to reaping out and working with china and russia. Thats the kind of thing for people who work in the Foreign Policy world, there was enough language there that they would have the reaction they said. There was other language that would push them the other way. I think donald trump, remarkable for a guy about to win the nomination is a work in progress. Hes not tethered right before our eyes. Willie, its not like ron paul, if you are bob corker. You know what youre going to get. More frightened of pauls policy of the United States than donald trump because you feel like, hey, i can talk to this guy, i can explain. Hes flexible. They probably think they can shape him a little bit when he gets to washington, you cant shape ron paul. As close as you get to the speech. The last line is a serious contradictory speech. No moment south korea should think of developing nukes, japan should think of developing
nukes. There were no red alarms in the speech. It was constrained. Hillary clinton strong on this. I will go back to strong thinking here and richard can double down on this. There are a growing number of people, and i said it for 20 years. Every time barney frank comes on the air we both agree wit, which is germany and china germany and japan, they can take care of their own Foreign Policy. Its not 1945 anymore. Why are we carrying two of the most powerful economies in the world on our backs. Were sick and tired of it. Taxpayers here shouldnt do it. Let them tart worrying. Two things. One, if both of them provide a lot of host nation support two, the reason we do what we do not for germany and japan, its for the United States. This works for us. Im explaining again when donald trump starts talking that way, there are a lot of people
across the nation nodding. Thats when when everybody is so busy mocking the speech, without figuring out how its being received in america, which we saw yesterday, then same reason why they couldnt figure out why all the people showed up. But bobby knight, willie geist, bobby knight showed up yesterday. He showed up yesterday in a red sweater. How did that go . Youll find out in the next block. What . Now. Its horrible. If Carly Fiorina and ted cruz and donald trump with ted knight. Singing. Singing was great. Still on morning joe. Second half of ted cruz president ial ticket, his running mate Carly Fiorina joins the conversation. Plus jane sanders on the decision to lay off hundreds of Campaign Staffers across the country. Senator tom cotton who is being blasted by the white house for trying to block part of the
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