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MSNBCW Morning Joe April 29, 2016 10:00:00

To join the wednesday night league. Because he loves to play hoops. Not jump through them. Thats the excitement of rewarding connections. Apply online or at a bank of america near you. After a great deal of consideration and prayer, i have come to the conclusion that if i am nominated to be president of the United States that i will run on a ticket with my Vice President ial nominee Carly Fiorina. Yes, ted cruz has found a n run ming mate. I have decided that if i am asked to ever walk on mars i want willie geist to be in the capsule as i take those first great steps for mankind. [ applause ] thats an honor. Running lines like ted cruz. Its unbelievable. Its the pause. What is that . Come on, somebody has to be around him to tell him to stop that. That aint how people talk. Its just weird. I need to get you some new morning joe swag. You dont like this one . I like that one. I should have stitched 2015 in there. Vintage. You have seen the 2016 model. Its one that i wore for like four months straight. I get it the night before. Lint brush. Are you saying donnies mike is not working . That was intense. Good morning, its friday, april 29th. Mika has the morning off. But we have the managing editor of bloomberg politics. And changes lives across the globe every night. Its like an hour of power. There is that moment at the end where they take prayer requests. I cry. And all the people said amen. Mark halperin. We also have those from weekends with alex witt. And donnie is with us. And senior Political Editor and White House Correspondent for the Huffington Post sam stein. That is a motley crew. Someone has to add a little estrogen. Chaos erupted in california outside of Donald Trumps First Campaign rally. Demonstrators blocked traffic to them swarming cars and at one point busting a Police Cruisers windows with one man stomping on it. Protesters forced police to close streets. Others threw bricks. The smell of burnt rubber reportedly because of whats happening right there. Thats a car spinning out in the middle of an intersection. They are doing a donut. Police say 20 people were arrested and reported no major injuries in which was the first violence since the chicago rally. This footage of a trump supporter talking to medical personnel. Reporters witnessed a confrontation there. Mark halperin, the violence was outside the rally. Going to be hard for the media to spin this one as Donald Trumps problem. That was something they loved to talk about a week ago. I dare say that that degree of violence only helps a candidate that they are trying to hurt. Well, and it also lays to bear what could be months of a huge debate in this country over donald trump and his legitimacy and his appeal. California has never seen what were about to see. Its going to be a lot of political activity in this state. A state that size, there are a lot of people who do a lot of things. Put that image up with the guy in the bandages. This is what they are trying to do to us. This is a trump supporter and they are trying to keep us down. Youre right, donnie. All of this, the rage, the anger, the violence outside the rally, the stomping on police cars, all of that plays right into his hands. Everything thats happening is playing into his hands. Carly fiorina, a stunt. The big between kasich and cruz. Everything says you want to take this election away from us. They are rigging it. Its the system. Its everything thats done now, even if its just political water, plays into his hands. They are taking our country away from us. Just like my parents said in 1968 when there was violence at the chicago my participants were born democrats and voted democratic their entire u life. Not like republicans. That started to change in 1968 with all the riots and the protests and seemed like us against them. It was john wayne versus jane fonda and there was no middle ground politically. Last week i said i think hes going to win. This was before last tuesday. The amount of people in the last four or five days that are coming around, not that hes getting the nomination, but that hes going to win. You mean the republican nomination. No, i mean the presidency. In the last four or five days, i hear more people, different types. Really . What do they say . My mother, no. I hear the nomination. Im starting to hear just from a range of people moth motherinlaw type research. Theres no statistical relevance to it. What are you doing with your fingers. Stop that. Youre making us uncomfortable. Trump is in california again today. Watch to see the reaction he gets. So thats all the outside stuff, as joe says. Lets talk about what was happening inside. The 18,000 people at the Orange County fairgrounds were largely unaware of all that violence unfolding outside. At one point, trump called on to stage the families of victims of violence committed i undocumented immigrants and turned the mike over to someone whose son was killed. We demand americaen first. We dont care about illegal alie aliens. Americans first. First means first. Jameel just representing the group, they all have a similar story to tell. People that shouldnt have been here. People that should have never been allowed to come over the border and they come here like its nothing. They walk through like its nothing. And were going to stop it. Were dpoigoing to build a wall. We cant have this. We dont have a country anymore. Im looking at statistics where your crime numbers are so crazy. They have gone through the roof. We cant have it anymore. I dont know how they take it. These are great, unbelievable people. We have to stop it. This is out of a book. This is out of a manual. No state in america has suffered worse from open borders than the state of california. Its impact on jobs, wages, security, schools, hospitals has been devastating. E we know that. So suggesting theres going to be a soft turn towards the general election towards positions that might actually help donald trump with his pan. Ices in the general election. Were not seeing it. Not late in the a campaign. Hes going full law and order. Hes going to back almost the bob knight thing. Those were the good old days when america made sense. So what hes doing in california is not pivoting to the general election, but he realizes the establishment and people in washington are turning toward donald trump now. Theres no denying it. Two more endorse mements in congress. Two heads of veterans affairs. These are serious people. Bob corker. Bob corker f theres one thing that indicated a massive change of opinion inside washington it was bob corker, who is not a tea party guy. Hes been seen as one of the more moderate as far as working across the aisle Republican Leaders there. Yeah, when he came out the other day about that Foreign Policy speech that there were some interesting contours to it. But hes get iting support from people that are to be taken seriously. The corker thing was interesting coming basically a few hours after trumps Foreign Policy speech. It gave it a sign of significance, of seriousness, an endorsement. I would say it wasnt the most full throated endorsement, but corker is a person of substance. You always have to do that, sam. Let me pick up with the finger things. Dont talk about texture. The party is resigning itself to him being the nominee. And two, trumps playing what i would say the playbook that nixon did. He references the majority all the time. He goes out there and says theres lawlessness. I need to bring law and order to you. The country is being taken away. But there are factual problems here. Border crossings that he referenced in that speech. They are at an alltime low. Crime in america, its not like the 70s. Were not witnessing an epidemic of crime in American Cities like we were back then. Everything hes done is right brain. I want to pick up on his speech. But facts do matter. Theres a lot of talk about the substance. Theres a cautionary tale for him. That was the first time e we saw him reading. It was different. The thing that makes him work, and i do a lot of things terribly. One thing i do well is a lot of public speeches. I like by point. I cant read off a prompter. His connection with the audience because hes not reading is so real and so present. I found a very different in him trying to be president ial and read a very different donald trump. And hes got to balance. You have to read stuff. And i for the first time when he speaks i lean in. During that speech, i was leaning back. Thats something hes going to have to juggle as he gets deeper into policy and more speeches because he was not being trump. He wasnt im not talking about substance. I picked that up in the Foreign Policy speech. Im sorry, the other day. The Foreign Policy speech i u pick ued it up there. The thing that everybody learned from that speech or should have learned if youre inside the Trump Organization is he can do that if he has big cheering crowds like that. George w. Bush in a crowd or oneonone, greatest, funniest, most likable guy. Get him in the east room in a formal press conference and its painful. So you play to the strengths. So explain something to me. Im sure all trumps guys understand hes going to get the 1237, right . They also understand he cant win the general election without 35 of hispanics voting for him. This seems awfully late in the calendar to be doing things that made sense in january. Can he win . There are not, i have been saying all along and i may be wrong, but there are not enough white voters in america for donald trump to win while get ing routed by minorities. Theres a lot in that question. First of all, trump is always going to say what he believes on issues luk immigration. What he said last night he believes. And he believes he can rally a lot of people. He still needs to do well in the california primary to go over. For the republican electorate, thats a strong message. If you take what trump has said, trump has been for a position on immigration, which he can start to emphasize, that is close to amnesty. I think he will pivot on immigration to talk about some of the things he mentioned about letting people stay here if they are good people. Trump will lose the hispanic vote if hes the nominee. You talk about percentage to get. He can lose california massively. Can he target hispanics in north carolina, illinois, new jersey, i think there are other issues he can talk about to win. And he can get more of the white vote than romney did. The math here is not as cut and dry as hes not going to do well with the hispanic vote and cant win. State by state and on issues besides immigration. Do you think he will do better or worse . Romney lost 71 . I think the national number, if they are able to build a targeting operation, hispanics in california worse as of today. Im not sure thats going to be the case longterm. Thats not what its about. Hes never going to win california any way. Im talking about the general election. Can he not win it, but can he make clinton play defense there. One of the dynamics in this warfare that we have seen in the conflict is trump can probably put more can i answer that question on april 28th . He cant make Hillary Clinton play defense. Let me save them a lot of money right now. Im not sure thats true. What happened from pete wilson on there . Its been a virtual wasteland for republican for the past 20 years. And Arnold Schwarzenegger with rebuilding the state with celebrity. Did he talk about building a wall . Did he bring people on stage and say these are people kill ed by hispanics . He had other problematic positions. All im saying is watch and see what happens in the next couple days about whether theres a possibility that trump could build a coalition in california. Do you remember i cant remember when this was. Maybe 2008 or 09 when he came running in the hall and screaming at me. Do you remember that . Yeah, and apparently john boehner is coopting my words. Well get right to that. That was a rough day. Classic witt. Im going to classic boehner because its a well known choice words from john boehner. He was talking about ted cruz during a visit to california. Boehner said while he would vote for donald trump in a general election, theres no way he will ever vote for cruz. In fact, offered this description of the texas senator. Lucifer in the flesh. I have never worked with a more miserable person. Over my dead body will he be president. I know you are itch iing to talk about this. Heres what happens because of this. Cruz sends a fundraising email over the comments after tweeting tell me again who will stand up to washington. Whos boehners texting and golfing buddy or Carly Fiorina and me . Take a listen to this. John boehner had some interesting comments last night. He allowed his inner trump to come out. Truth of the matter is i dont know the man. I have met john boehner two or three times in my life. If i have said 50 words in my life to john boehner, i would be surprised. Every one of them has consisted of pleasantriepleasantries. I have never had a substantiate conversation. During the shutdown, i reached out to john boehner and i offered to come over and work with the speaker. Can we resolve this and actually get something meaningful done to stop the disaster that is obamacare . John boehners response was i have no interest in talking to you. When he calls me lucifer, hes not directing that at me. Hes directing that at you. What boehner is angry with is the American People holding him accountable. He is directing it at ted cruz. Directly. And giving voice to what a lot of people feel about ted cruz in washington. Quote, maybe quote of the day yesterday. Pete king, our good friend from long island, who we love. Actually, thats giving lewucif a bad rap. Lets listen. I agree with bajohn boehner. Maybe he gives lucifer a bad name by comparing him to cruz. What john boehner was most concern ed about is ted cruz perpetrator of fraud some kind of a vague promise to take obamacare out of the budget. Ted cruz knew it would never work. But he did it any way. Isnt she starting to get that weird christie gaze . Somebody pointed out yesterday ted cruz, i dont know the man, he was his attorney in the mid1990s. That was me. The guy was his attorney. How do you only say 50 words to your client . Maybe they didnt interact. This election is crazy. We love boehner and the thing thats a funny phrase. But this is about the failure of the stop Trump Movement. Boehner is sinding a signal that cruz is is not the answer. They may not love trump or be excited. Thats why theres no movement. You got to go somewhere if youre going to move. You need an amounttive. They have never had an alternative. They have chose an alternative. A man they all hate. And they do. And ted cruz is a wonderful father, wonderful everything. But his political persona from the day he stepped o on to the stage in washington, d. C. Irritated the entire city. Boehners saying what he said rick scott, governor of florida is saying what he said about the stop Trump Movement is helping Hillary Clinton. If trump can win indiana, people saying thats it. This is not about ted cruz or kasich. We have to be for donald trump. You look at dpt donald trump last night. They are playing completely different games. On this lucifer story. Sam stein, Huffington Post, always doing the hard work. You interviewed a satanist. You got to referee these disputes. You didnt have a lot to do yesterday, did you . I was really bored. I called up a satanist. How do you find those . Is that in the yellow pages . I actually went to a few websites that im a little bit freaked out about and spooked a little bit and hoping it doesnt lead to eternal damnation. Cruz is christianitys problems. Isnt he going to win where theres this winners mentality. You dont want to jump on the satanist point. Is that you moving on . Jewish folks get scared about a lot of stuff. But indiana, whatever the poll said a few days ago, to me, its almost a lock when theres voter mentality. Its so complete that i think hes going to win substantially in indiana. The private polling has moved in that direction. Cruz is just not breaking through with enough voters, yet. We have a couple days to go. I want that w. Its awfully hard. When you have bobby knight going out there, it is really hard. Paul had a great quote yesterday when ted cruz was talking about if they didnt win indiana, it would be a nail in the coffin. And paul said, last week pennsylvania was a nail in the coffin. Hes in the coffin now. He just doesnt realize it. You said the trump people are at the point whether we win indiana or not, they have a clear path at this point. I watched your show yesterday. Youre good. The partner not so much. Its a buddy picture. Driving across the country. You carry it. Youre dising heilemann . Its like a buddy movie. You cant throw them out of the van. Hes chris farley and then david spade. More tango and cash. Still ahead on morning joe, backlash erupts over the plan to have will ferrell play Ronald Reagan in a comedy about the former president s battle with alzheimers. Were going to have the reaction from the reagan family. Also chuck todd previews the make or break vote on tuesday. Tom brokaw is here. Tim kain also byebye here. But first, heres bill karins, i guess its tim kain e or bill karins. Its a tough choice. Go the safe choice with me or a little riskier with kain. Its a split. Even the middle of the country, going to get one good day and one day your not going to like. Yesterday this was a significant event that happened quickly in mississippi and the flooding was widespread around gulf port. We had 10 inches of rain in only a few hours. There was a lot of images with people just trying to get loved ones to safety. The military had to come in and use their big trucks. They had to rescue a lot of people. A state of emergency has been declared. Today, were watching thunderstorms already exploding. Classic spring storm. Severe weather and snow. 24 Million People at risk today. Little rock, oklahoma city, dallasfort worth and shreveport. That will mean significant airport delays this afternoon, especially around dallas. How about colorado . Its a snowy month in april. Youre going to get the snowstorm today in colorado. Denver expect

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