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Its a rigged system. Now i dont say it anymore because i won. Now i dont care. I dont care. And the only way i won was i won by such big margins because it is a rigged system. But the only way its like a boxer. You have to knock them out. Then you cant worry about the judges. Now i like them all. I love them. They are fabulous people. After you win, you like everybody. I like them. Somebody said do you like this one . Because you spoke so harshly. I love them, they are my best friends. And good morning, it is friday. Does anyone feel like its been a long week . I like them all. Whats going on with you . What do you mean . Why does he look different . He forgot to shave. He looks like hes trying to look like yeah, no. Thats donnie. He has some sort of 5 00 sha degoing. Im really liking your show, by the way. Its so good. Its awesome. Who would have an issue with your show . Who wouldnt like that . He carries it. Who wants to watch that . Maybe people in the communist block. Strange people with personal issues who spend too much time in front of the mirror. People who dont love jesus. Washington anchor katy cay is here. Of course. I dont live in the communist block. She says that with elegance. Lets get to the news. What do you have . Whatever i wear i get abused. Lets bring the shot back to new york. Donald trump captured the republican nomination. He did. Yeah, he did, its here. Donald trump captured the republican nomination on his ability to make deals but one gop leader is still driving a hard bargain. Yesterday paul ryan, the chairman of the republican national convention, said hes not ready o to endorse trump. Im just not ready to do that at this point. Im not there right now. I hope to, though. I want to. I think what is required is that we unify this party. I think the bulk of the burden on unifying the party will have to come from our presumptive nominee. I dont want to underplay what he accomplished. He needs to be congratulated. But he also inherits something very special. Thats very special to a lot of us. This is the party of lincoln, reagan, and we dont always nominate a lincoln or reagan every four years, but we hope our nominee aspires to be that. It doesnt unify us, but taking the principles we all believe in, showing theres a dedication to those and running a principled campaign that republicans can be proud of and appeal to a majority of americans, that, to me, is what it takes to unify this party. This man is going to get the nomination buzz he earned it. He earned the vote. Those of us need to learn a few lessons here. Theres a bit of humility. Especially leaders in congress. He tapped into something in this country that was it very powerful. People are sending a message to washington we need to learn from and listen to. But at the same time, now that we have a presumptive nominee who is going to be our standard barer, its very important that theres a demonstration that our standards will be bared. So there was quite a response from donald trump that well get to in a moment. Just listening to his tone, as well as the words, tone very measured. What did you think . I actually think it was perfect for a couple reasons. First of all, you do need some People Holding out. Donald trump understands the art of the deal. There have to be some people that are holding out for leverage. Paul ryan is at the top of that list. Donald trump wouldnt respect a party that opposing the entire way, disagree with him on key policy issues and the second he wins they suddenly flock to him. It reminds me just because i won, that makes everything okay. It reminds me of an alabama football coach some years back that was caught sexually harassing people in the workplace and had this big hearing and he was going to be fired. But they gave him one more chance. But one of the board of e regents said better win 11 games. Well, we alabama fans who were outraged said what does that have to do with the other. Donald trump won. He won the national championship, so to speak. But are you staying true to the values and believes of the organization that youre now leading. So donald trump decided to run a year ago and thats awesome. That is awesome. He went out and he won. Thats absolutely fantastic u. He has a huge chunk of the party behind him. Thats great too. But got to come together. And what makes great deal makers . People that can figure out what paul ryan needs and what Mitch Mcconnell needs and jeb bush needs and do his best to bring them together. He will do that. Let it play out. He said i want to support him, i think i will support him. But lets just wait a second. I would do the same thing if i were in his position. Hes going to end up on trumps side, so theres not a big deal. Or working with him. I thought it was pitch p perfect. He was a leader. And he also sits at a spot that he congratulated him, he said great job. And we need to be humbled. He sits in a spot that no other republican sits. It was interesting. Chuck todd said when the flood gates really open for trump was when ryan came out and said im never going to be an option. Because people woke up and said, its not going to be cruz, but ryan holds this rarefied place. Hes not the old establishment. Hes got grav it is a. You get to this by trumps response. That shows you where he is trump did not call him pouty paul. He might now. Lets read the trump thing. I u thought both of them were pitch perfect. Maybe were putting this to context for once. Trump responded by saying hes not ready to back speaker ryan saying, im not ready to support speaker ryans agenda. Perhaps in the future we can Work Together and come to an agreement about what is best for the american people. They have been treated so badly for so long its about time for politician s s to put them firs. Youre absolutely right. When was the first time somebody kind of did not get on the trump bandwagon where trump did a difficult response. This sends a message to republicans. Ill take your endorsement, but i dont really need it. Can i tell a story really quickly . It wasnt that level of smugness. It was more restrained just like ryans was. I thought both played pingpong. Trump doesnt need paul ryan. It will help him an awful lot. Im just saying at the end of the day, there are a lot more Trump Supporters in wisconsin than paul wants to kiss off. And sometimes you have to just be willing to tell people, you know what, support me if you want. Dont if you dont. Going back to the art of the deal, if trump were like any other politician like mitt romney, i look forward to paul ryan looking through my charts and position papers and supporting me one day. So its all in paul ryans hands. Trump, no, screw you, i dont support you either. He didnt say screw you though. There was a nice enough edge to him and nice enough pushback that this allows you to do this publicly while you have people privately calling going, hey, lets get you guys together. You can figure it out. I have a darker view of this. Thats the headlines. I thought when i read headlines about this it would be trump and ryan at each others throats. I just read a really nice exchange that seems im here, but were hoping to get here. I agree. He didnt call him lying ryan. Theres three objections to donald trump. One is policy. That one is easiest to bridge. One is stylistic and symbosymbo. Ryan doesnt want their nominee to support banning muslims. The other is trump going to win . A lot of people think trump is not only going to lose but make paul ryan work to keep the majority. Which can trump bridge in the shortterm . Neither. But whoever is telling paul ryan to not support the republican nominee because he might lose is offering really bad political advice. Thats third on a list. Its not the most important, but its a factor for a lot of House Republicans. You dont want to be sitting on the sidelines when Hillary Clinton bets elected and nominates three Supreme Court nominees. Chris christie says he will try to broker a truce between ryan and the presumptive nominee. Trumps Campaign Manager said no meeting is currently scheduled. Trump held his fire at a rally in charleston, West Virginia, last night, though earliers mention of his name drew this reaction. Were told ryan said i will never endorse donald trump. Ryan stand off with trump comes as a report his running mate wont be running for the presumptive nominee. The Washington Examiner says at an awards gala romney ruled out an independent bid but said i dont intend on supporting either kapd at this point. He said hes got no plans to attend the gop convention. Meanwhile, former senator bob dole said he will briefly attend making him the only former nominee not to snub the party gathering. The reasons hes not going to the primaries is reElection Campaign. And speaking with reporters yesterday he gave trump his support. As i said many times, i support the nominee of the party. I will do what i can to influence the campaign in the areas of National Security that i think are most need to be addressed. I have significant differences with donald trump on a lot of National Security issue, but my job is to steer our party and nations policies in the direction to make america safe. Thats my obligation. Yes, i have repeatedly said the things that i dont agree with him on. But im happy to campaign. I love being here. Do you expect trump to endorse your campaign . I do not know what mr. Trumps thinking is. Except that its going to be huge. Now see, theres a perfect response. Which john mccain is saying, listen, i dont like the nominee. He said some tough things about me. I have said tough things about him, but hes our nominee. I have to try to make him better. That was the one thing that bothered me in the build up. When it started to look like he was going to win, the smart republicans, make somebody better. Take a sad song and make it better. If you dont like his policies, go in and influence him. Its not like this guy cant be moved. He certainly can. Ted cruz is a guy that cant be moved. You get in front of him and you can influence him. I completely agree. So then take a look at this. Both former president bushes are withholding their support and trump cited Foreign Policy as the reason why. I understand why they are not. The war in iraq was perhaps the worst decision ever made in this countrys history. It totally destabilized the middle east. It was a total disaster. It was made by bush. I took jeb bush on very hard. They was very nasty to me. You think their decision has to do with jeb bush . Of course, it does. I criticized his decision to g into iraq. Now on that, i want to clear that up. You have come up with articles, but theres audio of you before no, there isnt. A buzzfeed piece. Im talking to howard stern weeks before. First time ever anybody asked. I was a civilian. First time anybody asked e me about the war. It was a question are we going in. I said very weakly. You said its a tremendous military success. What i u said is it was a success pause they thought it was a success. But before that, i said they shouldnt go in. It was one week ago that indiana governor mike pence endorsed ted cruz for president. Where were you when governor pensaco pence endorsed him . I remember the challenger, where it was. You remember 9 11. I remember the red sox. Some of us were alive when kennedy was assassinated. Where were you during that endorsement . I was a big business meeting and i wept. I remember it being very confusing. But last night it kind of cleared up. He got behind Donald Trumps campaign saying hes going to campaign hard for the presumptive nominee. One of Trumps Campaign antagonists senator rand paul said hes endorsing the nominee adding for kentucky the clintons will be terrible. Billionaire donor sheldon adele son also came out in support of trump saying he won fair and square. After calling trumps candidacy a cancer on conservatism, formerTexas Governor rick perry said hes supporting trump. Quote, hes one of the most talented people who has ever run for president i have ever seen. Asked if hes interested in being trumps running mate, he said im going to be open to any way i can help. Im not going to say no. If any of those people had snubbed him, trump would have squashed them. Ryan is a different place. He is not yesterday. He is not everything thats been wrong. Hes young, hes bright, hes just right of center. Hes a different place. Trump needs him. I dont know he does. I love paul. I just dont know he does. If i can pick one person to run against in a general Election Campaign and say, you know, if it were paul, of course, hes not for me. He voted for the bailout of the banks. He made big banks get bigger. He voted to bankrupt medicare. This is a guy u that voted for every bad spending bill. He can go through all of that and he can actually use anybody as a foil out there. I think at the end of the day paul is going to come to him, but paul also, though, you u disagree with me . I disagree. I dont think its going to be so easy. He does need paul ryan and paul ryans followers. I think the bigger problem for paul ryan is he wants to run for president four years from now and paul sr. And a lot of other billionaires are not beginning to be pleased when he runs over to Donald Trumps arm. So this is about 2020 now as much as its about 2016. Hes got to handle this right. Yeah, it will be interesting to see how they bridge that divide and what donald trump has to do to get paul ryan on board or starts attacking him more. I agree. Those are both very good. The lyen ryan was probably better. I u actually think there is an agenda issue. When donald trump chose those words i cant support his agenda, you get to something fundamental. He supports free trade deals and his whole life is about balancing the budget. Those are the two principles that hes stood behind since hes been in office and what hes defined his career as. And they are not what donald trump supports. There is a fairly major policy difference. But for the republicans who are not frankly the kind of second tier republican who is have come out in the last day or two voel call liezing this support, what do you do about those things on tape, what donald trump said about mexicans and banning muslims and women repeatedly, thats a tricky issue for republicans and when paul ryan says this is something we have to be proud about, i think thats what hes tapping into. Thats what some republicans are wrestling with. Well get to Hillary Clintons reaction. He didnt mention temperament. He stayed on issues. Hes already spoken about temperament issues several times with donald trump when it came to the muslim ban. How thats not what represents us. What i saw between the two of them was the begin ining of a relationship. I saw it differently. Still ahead, dr. Ben carson joins us. How hes advising donald trump in the search for a running mate. Plus the senator bob corker and political director chuck todd. But first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. Any relief . What a streak. Its like living in london. Were going to continue with the clouds and rain today. A little better on saturday. Sunshine in the east. But this morning we are locked in and the rain is getting worse. Very heavy rain over maryland is working towards the d. C. Area. It will peak between 8 00 a. M. And 11 00 a. M. Thats when the heaviest rains will be over washington. Light rain for you. The steadiest rains for you will be that same timing. Heres how were going to look at 8 00 a. M. Airport delays will be building. It will slowly improve during the day today. It will be damp. The forecast for today. Its amazing how upside down the weather is. The warmest spots in the country today is in minneapolis at 88 degrees. Thats airconditioning weather there when were stuck in the 50s and midatlantic. Also showers and storms in salt lake city. Now as far as the weekend is going to go, we will be watching the temperatures getting a little cooler in the northern portions of the plains. That will also watch the heat building in the southeast. Atlanta looks great, tampa looks nice too. In the northeast, some showers around saturday, but not a rainy day u. A little warmer and then by sunday, d. C. Is sunny and 72. We start with showers new york to boston. Sunday afternoon for mers day we clear it out and finally gone with this miserable weather pattern we have been locked in all week long. New york city, airport delays should be building throughout the morning. Well be. Seeing e steadier rains along with our friends in philadelphia and washington, d. C. More morning joe when we come back. But not every Insurance Company understands the life behind it. Those who have served our nation. Have earned the very best service in return. Usaa. We know what it means to serve. 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It was his First Campaign event as the last republican candidate standing, but it was the same old donald trump in front of a crowd of roughly 13,000 in charleston, West Virginia, last night. Briefly wore a hard hat. Imitating a coal miner. He vowed to revitalize the coal industry. He did not say how. And for the first time, trump trained his attack solely on Hillary Clinton hitting his likely general election opponent on everything from the Clinton Foundation, which he called a scam, to naf it. He managed to work in a joke about her husbands infidelities. The Cl

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