Now that trump has the nomination, hes gonna become president , okay . Because people dont like to admit it in public, but they secretly really like trump. Everywhere i go, im like, you guys like trump . And theyre like, boo, no and then im like, are you going to vote for him . And theyre like, probably. And yes, a lot of people hate trump. But dont forget, a lot of people hate hillary, too. No ones really happy with either of these choices. Its like if youre in the mood for soup, and go to the diner to get soup, but the only two options they have left are pumpkin corn chowder or Hillary Clinton. What . good morning, everyone. Thats a quizzical joke. Its monday, may 9th. Do you think well see the sun today . Yesterday, holy cow beautiful. With us on set anybody that seen the matrix, the last one where they go above the clouds and go, its beautiful, and phew. Legendary columnist and msnbc contributor, mike barnicle. Managing editor of Bloomberg Politics and cohost of with all due respect, Mark Halperin. What an amazing show. Who would absolutely be obsessed with that show . Who . I cant think of one person. Not anybody in their right mind. I finally went to see hamilton. Hamilton, rickles, i dont think its even a close call. People will remember the summer of 2016. And in washington, we have nbc news chief Foreign Affairs correspondent, and host of Andrea Mitchell reports, Andrea Mitchell with us this morning. And pulitzer prizewinning columnist and associate editor of the Washington Post and
msnbc political analyst, euGene Robinson. Great group before we do the read, ive got to ask. Whats going on . Whats going on out there . Theres just a lot of battle lines being drawn. And i think theyre fake. I think this whole trump ryan thing is phony so they could meet this week and come together and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Donald trump just said im getting tired. That he would consider stripping paul ryans chairmanship of the Republican National committee. Do they have a meeting this week . To me, the weekends encapsulated by the following. The wall street journal editorial page said trump could lose the entire election in the next month if he doesnt get his act together. And mike and i have the same experience. We talked to a bunch of liberal democrats over the weekend who say, hillary cant win. The country is divided over this election and what the possible outcome could be. So why is donald trump attacking paul ryan when paul ryan said something last week that we all thought, at least i
said, hey, trump said the right thing, ryan said the right thing. They come together, its actually symbolic of something much bigger. So then trump this weekend goes out and hammers him even more. Because, joe, he wants to go into the meeting the in a position of strength. Yeah, he doesnt have that much strength, actually. No, no, no. I dont think trump can tolerate what ryan said. Get in line, hes the nominee. Then he cant tolerate running for president. Thats exactly right. He should go back to reality tv. If he cant handle that . Art of the deal. Ryan has said well, with ryan has to hold out now. Ryan has said something extraordinary. Ryan has said, youre not good enough for me to endorse. Thats not what he said. He said, im not ready right now but i look forward to it. No, he said dont distort what paul ryan said. Think what would normally happen. But this isnt a normal year. The guy is on track to win
more votes than any previous republican nominee, and the speaker of house, rather than doing what Mitch Mcconnell or most everyone else has done, has said, ill wait and see. You know, donald trump is also, though, donald trump is also has offended more people in his party than any presumptive nominee. He has higher disapproval ratings than any candidate ever to run for president of the United States at this stage. Paul ryan saying, hey, you know, im not ready right now, but im thinking about it. You know, it was a very clear sign, for anybody whos not stupid, for anybody that didnt just start practicing politics nine months ago, for anybody that has a brab okay, be nice. And knows how to read other politicians, it was a sign, im not here now, but im going to meet you and were going to meet in the middle. But ive got to say this, mike. If he cant handle paul ryan in negotiations like this, without wl blowing it up, whats he going to do when he starts negotiating with people across the world . If he cant handle this paul ryan negotiation any better than this. Mark, you referenced the art of the deal with regard to donald trump. Joe referenced the idea of politics, which is the art of governance. Donald seems to come to the table. First of all, hes playing on a much bigger stage now than he was three weeks ago. A much bigger stage. He is the nominee for president of the United States by a Major Political party, the Republican Party. So now, everything he says has to be measured against, you know, do you let someone take 10 , 20 when youre negotiating . Youve got to give the other person some sense you didnt entirely lose everything. Paul ryan knows how to do that. Donald trump, apparently, wants everything how about the fact, that best i can tell from my reporting, rune didnt give trump a heads up. How about that . I think it doesnt matter. It is Donald Trumps party to bring together now. Paul ryan. Theres nothing paul ryan said that was offensive. I dont know if youre angling for an interview here or not,
but this is pretty straightforward. Im just this is pretty straightforward. Im just paul ryan was moving in that direction. Im just answering the question, why did trump do what he did over the weekend. Paul ryan went out and announced this without calling, hes the nominee of the party, and ryan says he wants to support him, call him up. Mark halperin, would you like to make a bet with me . Yeah . I will bet you something very nice that the meeting will end up well and this is just battle lines being drawn to step up the drama. I dont i never bet on what i cover, but i think im right. Getting a pickup truck. At event after event over the weekend, trump said ryans comments came as a surprise. Paul ryan, i dont know what happened. I dont know. And he the other day just in a big i didnt get paul ryan, i dont know what happened. I dont know what happened and he called me three weeks ago. En we can have had a nicer
conversation. Thank you very much, donald, its great and well work together. Well, everythings fine. And then all of a sudden, he wants to be cute. Ive gotten tremendous endorsements. I didnt get it from ryan, though, can you imagine . Paul ryan. Thats a hard one. Hes making everyone boo him wherever he goes. Trump also heres a funny thing. Paul ryans going to be speaker of the house, yeah . You knew tip. You knew people that run the house. Good luck getting anything through the house of representatives. You know, its very funny for donald. He can do that to ben carson and he can do that to mike huckabee. Good luck doing that to the speaker of the house. Im just saying. Have fun. Trump also tried to rule out blocking ryan from becoming the convention chairman. And that call hes referring to, the Speakers Office says it never happened and the last time the two talked was in march. So we have some other battle lines being drawn here. Its worth talking about. We have some other guests. Andrea mitchell, have you ever seen a nominee, a presumptive nominee going after somebody in as powerful as a position as the speaker . Not that i can recall. I just think that i just think it was a mistake. And, you know, you could argue, i was talking to some republicans yesterday who said, you know, ryan probably should have waited until after the meeting before laying down those lines, but he wanted to see whether donald trump would step back from the muslim ban or some of the other positions that hed taken. He is seriously troubled, im told, but some other things that hes said. And, you know, paul ryan is a traditional fiscal conservative. He is a reagan republican. And nothing that donald trump has said explains what he would do about budget deficits. And what he said on friday on cnbc is really extraordinary and should get more information. Were going to get to that. Where he said, the United States of america isnt going to make good on its debt if it doesnt want to. Is he suggesting that we should become greece . I dont know what he does, but we as americans pay our debt, thats why we continue to be the safe haven for investment across the globe the country does. For a century. Our country does, exactly. Gene robinson, isnt this the time donald trump is supposed to be bringing his party together. The trump people say, dont worry, least going to be more rational and reasonable the second hes won the primary and everythings going to be no, its just the opposite. Hes going after paul ryan and getting everybody to boo paul ryan. Thats right, you said the phrase, his party. Donald trump, i believe, thinks this is his party now. He won, he beat them all. He didnt support him and he beat them all. So why should she go hat in hand to paul ryan. Now, you mentioned the reason. If he were to become president and he were to want to pass a
piece of legislation, he would be the speaker of the house. And that would be a problem. However, i do understand, you know, trumps position. Whats he going to do now . Take it all back . Say, oh, actually, im just a conventional republican . I think he believes that when were for him and so hes just going to, you know, weve got to do this my way is his view. All right, then theres this, with his primary opponents out of the way, donald trump is focusing his attention on his likely general election opponent, Hillary Clinton. And while he hit her on the issues, which were going to show you in a moment, he also raised eyebrows for personal attacks. He did that right away. Trump cited a report from last month that a super pac supporting clinton is going to begin a 90 Million Ad Campaign against him. Trump said that the ads were largely focusing on him and women. So he made this connection over the weekend. Hillary clinton just ordered 90 million worth of hit ads on donald trump. And its hit ads on donald trump and women in the history of politics, Hillary Clintons husband abused women more than any man that we know of, in the history of politics, right . Have you ever read what Hillary Clinton did to the women that bill clinton had affairs with . Do you remember the famous i did not have sex with that woman, and then a couple of months later, im guilty. He was impeached for lying about what happened with a woman. And shes going to take ads about little donald trump . I dont know. I dont think so. Shes playing the womans card so much and so loud, shes gonna get hit for it, because its not appropriate. She was an unbelievably nasty, mean, enabler and what she did to a lot of those women is disgraceful. So put that in her on the and lets see what happens, okay . If she didnt play the womens card, she would have no answer. I mean, zero of winning. Shes playing the womens card. Shes going, did you hear that donald trump raised his voice while speaking the to a woman . Oh, im sorry im sorry. I mean, all of the men, were petrified to speak to women anymore. We may raise our voice. You know what . The women get it better than we do, folks, all right . They get it better than we do. If she didnt play that card, she has nothing. So mika, it begins. It begins. Hillary Clintons Campaign responded yesterday in a statement, saying, quote, in a week in which donald trump casually suggested destabilizing the entire u. S. Economy and cited his attendance at a Miss Universe pageant in russia as proof of his Foreign Policy experience, of course he will try to change the subject. Hillary clinton doesnt care what he says about her. She will continue to call him out for his outrageous positions
and divisive comments. I like the irony there of accusing donald trump of trying to change the subject, when you know what that statements trying to do . Change the subject. Change the subject. I think the Clinton Campaign is being pretty brilliant here in a guttural way. Get all of this out, go after him, let him start spewing all this stuff right now, get it over with. Because its gonna happen. No way to avoid it. So lets go. Hes going to do it nonstop. What was roger stones quote. That, everybodys going to know. Theyre going to do this. At some point it will look like bullying. It is the second week in a may. The second week in may. Its going to be like following the bataan death march, this campaign. Its going to take us right down, right to the bottom. You know, andrea, ive got to believe that Paul Manafort understands, as we were saying on thursday or friday, donald trump doesnt have long. He has a very short, small
window to turn things around with his panghispanics, to turn things around with women, hes on the wrong side of history with demographics, yet it looks like hes going back to his playbook from the early republican primary instead of being positive and trying to reach out to hispanics, to women. Nothing that he did this weekend does anything but harden battle lines anymore and drive his negatives and possibly Hillary Clintons negatives up even more. No, absolutely. Hes playing to white male voters, but there just arent enough white men out there in the general election universe to win this election, unless everybody and every minority voter stays home. And she, today, Hillary Clinton, were going out to cover her out in loudoun county. Shes going toward an area where there are a lot of republican
and independent women. Shes going after the suburban women. Many of them republicans. And youve got them in bedroom communities around every big city and all across this country. And thats whom shes countying on. Yeah. And its not necessarily going to be an easy lift, because shes got a long history and he is demonizing her and bringing all this other stuff up. Andrea and jean, those comments he was making, you think those are appealing to white male voters . Need to wake up my daughter. Because i think thats actually, potentially, a message younger women can connect with. That is one point, but when he says, you men, women get it all, and you men are the ones wlor taking the backseats, and i mean, thats part of what he was saying, in the spokane appearance. Saying that men are disadvantaged. Lets talk about the issues. Yes, donald trump took on policy positions with a new broadside on guns, while clinton hit trump for his Foreign Policyrhetoric and questioned his understanding of the economy. Hillary clinton wants to abolish the second amendment. She wants to abolish it. Okay . Hillary clinton wants to take your guns away and she wants to abolish the second amendment. She wants to take the bullets away. She wants to take it. You tell me thats something we can live with. Were going to cherish the second amendment. Were going to take care of the second amendment. I dont see donald trump having any kind of coherent Foreign Policy or theory of national security. He kind of makes statements that i find concerning, whether its about Nuclear Weapons or torture or anything else. So i think the burden is really on him to try to make a case why, when youve had 70 years of american policy under both republicans and democrats, trying to prevent the proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, he is so cavalier, even
reckless and dangerous. On Foreign Policy, hillary is trigger happy. She is, shes trigger happy. Shes got a bad temperament. By the way and her husband learned that a few times, didnt he . But shes trigger happy. You look what shes done, and i just wrote this down. Iraq, libya, she wrote it, lets go into iraq. Im not going to run an ugly race. I am going to run a race based on issues and what my agenda is for the American People. I dont really feel like im running against donald trump. I feel like im running for my vision of what our country can be. Wow, what a contrast. Welldone on her part. What a contrast. Mark halperin, if youre Hillary Clintons camp, you cant hope for a better contrast than those clips of donald trump all weekend shouting, again, like hes running against ben carson in South Carolina in august its like, is there nobody around
donald trump who can say, hey, donald the primary is over. White male voters voted for you. Youre supposed to pivot and make my head spin. Are you going to win the general election or keep talking like its august of 2015 . Who is around this guy that can tell him that . Those clips are what mike suggested, were in a different phase now. The Clinton Campaign is locked and loaded, they know what they want to do week to week, month to month. But donalds not in a different phase. No. He changed his positions on minimum wage and taxes, but even that i do like that. Even that was executed in kind of a sloppy away. This guy and his team have a todo with 10,001 elements on it, and theyre doing nothing. Its like theyve got all this Political Nuclear waste out there. This is the time theyre supposed to be cleaning it up. Hes going out there and
creating more waste. Theyre supposed to go to the chernobyl of capitol hill and pick a fight with the speaker of the house and spin this buyer week, weekend, talking about bill clintons affairs in the 1990s. Instead of actually doing cleanup operations, being quiet, showi showing you have a steady hand. Starting to plan on winning the general election. If trump loses or gets blown out, the next three weeks or so will be looked at as history where they didnt react to the fact they have 10,001 things to do, and theyre not doing them nearly fast enough, be