Nd long hours with her checking her heart rate, administering her medication, and just making her comfortable. One night britta told me about a tradition in denmark, when a person dies, she said, someone must open the window so the soul can depart. I smiled and squeezed her hand. Not tonight, britta. Not tonight. [ female announcer ] to nurses everywhere, thank you, from johon johnson. Trump met with House Speaker paul ryan. After the meeting pr pr gave a press conference to talk about how it went and well its kind of hard to tell how he felt about it. Let me say this. I think we had a very encouraging meeting. Im very encouraged. I heard a lot of good things from our presumptive normal e knee. I was very encouraged with what i heard from donald trump today. This is our first meeting. I was very encouraged with this meeting and im very encouraged we can put that together. Were off to a very encouraging start. It sounds like someone rocking back and forth in a straight jacket. That was quite a meeting yesterday. It was encouraging. I was shocked by some of the things paul ryan said after the meeting. It was saying that donald trump shared their conservative values and their vows of limited government. No, he doesnt. Donald will say that. Hes a democrat. Youve got a democrat from new york running against a democrat from new york. I will endorse our democrat from new york. Do not say he shares our view of limited government because donald trump will be the first to tell you he does not share paul ryans view of limited government. Good morning, everyone. Hes mocked paul ryan for his view of limited government. You wont be surprised its friday, may 13th. We have White House Correspondent for the Huffington Post sam stein. I was encouraged, sam stein shares my view of limited government. Probably more than donald trump, yeah. You do. Dont tell paul ryan that. Washington anchor for bbckatty cay. Probably more than donald
trump. And former chairman of the Republican National committee Michael Steele is with us. And columnist and associate editor for the Washington PostDavid Ignatius. Were not really joking. Ive been saying that people are going to come together, but it was really jarring when you see somebody like paul ryan who has been the center of the conservative movement. I met the kid when he was 22 years old. He worked with a group of us called the new federalists that were talking about taking money and authority out of washington, sending it back home. And he was the brain child of that. We were talking about abolishing the department of education, sending the money to local school boards. We were talking about getting rid of hud and Commerce Department and energy and sending the money and authority back home. So thats been his guiding principle. Give power back to the states,
back to the people. And yesterday to see paul ryan say donald trump shares our view of limited government, its pretty staggering to me. Did you flinch . It was a swallow hard moment. Its one of those things you realize that everybody is trying to find that space to make this arrangement work, because thats what this will be. It will be an arrangement between donald trump and guys like paul ryan and others on the hill who have a legislative agenda that they have been working on, as you just noted, for some time. This is the disruption that they dont need. But theyve got to make this work. Because paul ryan knows at the end of the day, he has a caucus thats hot for trump in some respects. Hes got to balance that with trying to win the election. They have been fighting to
show americans youre going to have to make dramatic changes. They are going to bankrupt. And donald trump has said outright, im not touching medica medicare. Im not touching social security. Im just going to close my eyes and let the programs go bankrupt. How does hes going to take a couple more months to completely sacrifice his lifetime of principle. Its painful to watch. Youre seeing republicans be more cautious of embracing the trump positions. You look at Lindsey Graham and john mccain Still Holding back. Others who represent the harder Foreign Policy views. What is in it for trump to actually fully embrace paul ryan . Isnt the brand supposed to be
im not conventional republican in any stretch of the imagination. Im an asymmetrical conservative. What does he gain from cozying up to paul ryan at all . I mean thats the question. What does paul ryan have to gain cozying up to a guy who is in opposition to his lifetime policy. Not have to deal with the friction at the top of the ticket. Donald trump doesnt have any real allegiance to paul ryan whatsoever. But dising the Party Mechanism might not be useful to donald trump. Its worked so far. But running into the general election, you dont think hed like some of the support of the party . If he wants to run against the establishment, theres nothing in it for him to make nice to paul ryan and leaves a wreckage of the Republican Party behind possibly. But why should he care . Donald trump has been a democrat most of his life. He supported partial birth abortion, higher taxes, higher taxes again. He contributed to Hillary Clinton several times. This is not Donald Trumps party. He adopted this party, brilliant on his part politically. But for someone like paul ry, you just wonder why. Clearly why dont we get to the news. No endorsement yesterday but here is paul ryan talking about trumps Charm Offensive. I was very encouraged with what i heard from donald trump today. I do believe that we are now planting the seeds to get ourselves unified. Do you expect o to endorse him . I think this is going in a positive direction. This is the first very encouraging meeting. But again, in 45 minutes, you dont litigate all of the
processes and issues and principles that we are talking about. What did you think of his personality . His personality i thought he was very good personality. Hes a very warm and genuine person. I think hes doing a good job. Hes got not an easy job. I dont mind a slow process. We have a lot of things. And i think we agree on a lot of different items. Were getting there. I feel strongly about Border Security, about trade. I feel strongly about building up the military. To a large extent, i think u paul is there also. So well get there. Pretty sure. Trumps meeting was supposed to last 30 minutes but it stretched to an hour showing they were really trying. Thats encouraging. Trump did not come in with swagger but rather an attitude of working together. But some senators were guarded in their optimism after their
own meeting op rin hatch said he was glad to meet trump adding, many constituents in utah have serious reservations about mr. Trump. To help unify the party, i hope donald will listen to policymakers and carefully consider his approach to issues Like International trade u and entitlement reform. Senator john cornyn called the meeting good and constructive, even posing for a photo. But he also told trump, quote, theres a way to talk about immigration issues that people dont find offensive yet still make a point were all for secure borders. Thank you for the advice. As in stop tweeting out pictures of taco bowls. The best taco bowl in aum of new york city is made here in trump tower. Somebody like paul ryan and
people who are principled conservatives in the Republican Party is the degree to which they are going to tolerate the fact that donald trump is not changing his policies and positions on immigration but may do it with language that sounds less abrasive. So if we have nonconservative principles but dont sound bombastic is that going to be enough for paul ryan . Why do you think donald trump is not going to change his position on immigration . Hes backtracked on several key positions. Hes talked about the muslim ban, if you notice, really moderating. There are obvious ways hes trying to take his foot off the pedal. Im guessing immigration will be one of those. This is a drama thats going to play out to the convention. Im waiting to see his good intentions. Well have something that looks like unity. Heres my problem though. I remember going to texas in 1999. Austin, texas, a small group of us out of florida went over to meet governor george w. Bush. He sat there and told us all the same thing. Im going to support small government and balance the budget. Looked at me because he knew i had had the bill to au bollish the department of education and send the money back home to local school boards. He goes were not beginning to get into education. Thats not the federal governments business. And there i was the first week having his people say we have this great plan leave no child behind. Really . On the education . Really . We came into power, we had 155 billion surplus. Eight years later after
republican rule, there was a 1. 4 trillion deficit. We doubled the national debt. This happens all the time. And so the fact that conservatives keep looking for somebody that actually believes in limited government and paul ryan was our last best hope and now he looks like hemoembracing a guy that doesnt need paul ryan, but does paul ryan need him . A guy that is a Big Government democrat. Whats the expectation then for the scenario you painted . What is paul ryans alternative . I think its a separate piece. I think paul ryan should have a separate piece and say, you know what, this is the great thing about the Republican Party. We dont rig our process. Were not like democrats that rig our process from the very beginning. Were open minded. So my members are free to
support whomever they want to support. He can just get some specific concessio concessions. Youll agree to look at entitlement reform and trump will never do it, but he can try to get confessions. Donald trump is not going to do that. Why should he . Hes not going to do it. Lets go to big issues. Trade, paul ryan is a fierce advocate of free trade. Donald trump is just the opposite. Taxes. Hes all about cutting taxes. Trump said hes going to raise taxes. Minimum wage, he switched on minimum wage. Paul ryan is different with him on minimum wage. Immigration. They are completely opposite. Immigration, they are completely opposite. They are encouraged. Its okay. Theres some things you cant square. For a conservative base thats been disappointed up to this point about nominating one Big Governmentonservative after another Big Government conservative, to see this is where we land in 2016 is pretty stunning. I hate to see all those conservative hearts broken again by these candidates who wont really adhere to the principles. But as you say, thats happened over and over again. There is an interesting view among some Foreign Policy neoconservatives which is let it burn. Dont reach out for unity. Dont try to help him win. Dont even try to save our seats in congress. Let him go down in the most disastrous, catastrophic way possible so we rebuild a conservative party. I think thats the question that people like paul ryan must be wonderinabout. So four years from now . You just basically let Hillary Clinton win and say shes going to be a oneterm president. Were going to purge the party of this trumpism, which is so poisonous. Checking that theory, barack obama was supposed to be a oneterm president too. That was declared on the day of his inauguration. If youre a consistent hawk, wouldnt you want Hillary Clinton in the white house . Shes much more interventionist on the trail. Theres a scenario for paul ryan. If you fundamentally believe that donald trump cant win this election in november, what have you got by attaching yourself too firmly to his principles or sacrificing your own principles you have held for decades in the name of somebody who is not going to win and youll look back and say, wow. Can i tell you where you are were. Youre fired. Youre the third ranking
person in the United States government. Youre speaker of the house. Everything donald trump does still has to come through you. So thats true. Do you want to play out trump and ill be the speaker. So what happens then when i put minimum wage bill on the table, if i put a trade bill on the table that go ahead. Well put it out there. Im not going to let it get to the floor. So you represent that same congress that we have been fighting for for the last 30 years . If you want to tweet it out, thats fine. Im the rules committee. Youre never going to get it on the floor. Im not donald. Youre donald. Im paul ryan. For every nasty tweet you tweeted out bt me over six months, im going to tell the rules committee to kill your stupid, idiotic bills every day. They are never going to see the light of day. Maybe you can find somebody youre sounding like donald. Whoever the rules Committee Chairman is will say that to donald trump. Gu go ahead, show me how powerful you are. Youre using the very system that has lied to the base, that has cheated the american public, that has i have a great idea, donald. Why dont you hold one of those big rallies. Ville dinner with my rules Committee Chairman. You play the washington inside game and i play the outside game. Guess what happens when youre up for reelection . Your bills dont pass. It doesnt matter. Ill get the congress. I have been elected in jainsville now since 1998. Democrats have been elected president in my district. Im going to keep winning. Youre not going to keep winning. We gerrymandered the system so badly. Guys, this is like hamilton. You should take this to broadway. This is good. Heres the bottom line. Every four years or eight years, a new president comes into town and they believe they are the first people to ever get elected president. I have had this conversation with three administrations when they come in. And they dont realize that they still have to play by the rules of washington. So where is paul ryan after Donald Trumps elected president . Hes still the most powerful guy when it comes to getting legislation started. If donald trump wins, he will win on the basis of an insurgency to break the washington youre describing where people say im going to talk to the rules committee. Thats what people will be rebelling against. Thats going to be powerful. That doesnt mean the structures are gone. But the rules committee is still there. Donald will not be able what does he do . Donald still has to come through him. They still have to make a deal. What do you think the tea party did in 2010 . They cleaned house. They went after the rules Committee Chairman. We went after that structure that nancy pelosi built and we didnt do it by playing the washington inside. We brought the outside in. You think they are going to punish paul ryan and his people for opposing tax increase or opposing 40 tariffs . No, they are actually going to be rewarded for opposing those liberal bills. I hear what youre saying. But look at the folks that donald trump is bringing into the process. So the question becomes how are they utilized . How are they integrated . Do they become the new form of tea party . Paul ryan has a lot more power right now than he showed yesterday. I cant wait. I think its also encouraging. Still ahead on morning joe, the former House Speaker is enjoying retirement. Yesterday he let loose again. Plus peter king will be here onset. Well ask him if hes doing okay now that ted cruz is out of the race. Also David Ignatiuss report on why president obama might get another shot at his red line. New signs of chemical wear fare in syria. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. Covering is caring because covering heals faster. For a bandage that moves with you and stays on all day, cover with a bandaid brand flexible fabric adhesive bandage. What backache . What sore wrist . What headache . Advil makes pain a distant memory. Nothing works faster stronger or longer what pain . Advil. No, youre not yogonna watch it tch it we cant let you download on the goooooo youll just have to miss it yeah, youll just have to miss it we cant let you download. Uh, no thanks. I have x1 from xfinity so. Dont fall for directv. Xfinity lets you download your shows from anywhere. I used to like that song. Senator, can you envision yourself up there one day . You think theres a location for me . I see some spots. 23 past the hour. Thats Bernie Sanders checking
out any available real estate out on mount rushmore. Hes in south dakota, a state that Hillary Clinton won in 2008. Sanders helped three rallies there including one in sioux falls that had a crowd of 4300 people. He kept up his attacks on clinton and what he brands the establishment. They have the money. We have the people. And the people together will win this struggle. There are reports that sanders cam pain is looking to push reforms for the primary process when the topic is considered. According to buzzfeed, his Campaign Advisers are looking to change the structure of caucuses in key nominating states and open up primaries to independent voters. Thats important. Theres a lot of problems. Can they chisel the dark frame glasses into mount rushmore. They can figure it out. Really quickly, we are going back to donald trump making changes. Hes making some pretty dramatic changes on something he needed to. The banning of muslims, he continues moving on that. And last night he really started to frame it the way he needed to frame it, which is im worried about syria. Im worried about refugees from countries that are coming into america where we cant do the sufficient background checks. Thats something i think the dod said. How do you put the genie back in the bottle . Last time i was with one of the leading muslim businessmen in the world. E he said if donald trump is elected, youre going to have
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