Hat doesnt mess with you. You know, he seems to do a good job mentioning his own name. You know, ill let him do his
advertising for him. I wonder when we can expect you to get involved with the democratic race. Are we going to see an endorsement soon . Bernie sanders, perhaps . I think theres been a healthy debate in the Democratic Party. Its almost over. I think both Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton are good people. I notice you dont mind using their names. As i said, they are not as good as marketing. And good morning. It is thursday june 2nd. Welcome to morning joe. Joe, the president kind of dising trump by not dising trump. He doesnt want to bring his name up. These guys have this remarkable symbiotic relationship. The president s perceived weakness on terror attacks overseas helped donald trump in the republican primary but the
rise of donald trump and Hillary Clintons problems helped Barack Obamas numbers do up. Latest poll has him over 50 . Thats pretty incredible eight years in in this divided country we live in. Ive just got to believe because people are comparing the two. They seem to help each other in their own base groups. He might want to name names with those approval readings. We have legendary columnist and msnbc contributor. I just had to tell him to sit up. This is like old home week. Look at this group we have washington anchor for bbc world news america katty kay. Say it. No. You can say it in the prompter. Ad man. It sees legendary. I can quote a legendary forbes article that called me legendary. We dont want to talk beauty
why. I sat there and listened to joe coop this legendary word. Enough. I saw the most disturbing shot on instagram a couple days ago. Any, quote, legendary status, its gross. Look at you. How much hormone are you taking . You know what thats called, human growth hormone. 70yearold dudes look that way. 70yearold dude dont look that way. Is that tanning cream or tanning bed. Thats legendary. Guy is, dont be hateful. Aging population, aging gracefully. Hating on you donnie, jey. Jealous. Joe, please, lets keep the peace here. Now that we have its not graceful, pathetic and needy. Stop. Do not mock muscle and fitness. To politics president obama returned to el car, indiana, a city he visited in 2009. The president credited his own policies bringing that city back from economic collapse while hitting donald trump on everything from his tax plan to presidency. Republican president s tax plan 1 10 of 1 , a bigger tax cut than 120 million households at the bottom. It would explode our deficits by nearly 10 trillion. Im not making this up. You can look at the math. That will not bring jobs back. That is not fighting for the american middle class. That will not help us win. That is not going to make your lives better. That will help people like him. Deporting 11 Million Immigrants, not only is that a fantasy that would cost taxpayers billions of dollars and tear families apart and just logistically would be impossible and the one thing i can promise you if we turn on epa other based on divisions of race, religion, if we fall for, you know, a bunch of okeydoke just because it it sounds
funny or the tweets are provocative, then were not going to build on the progress that we started. If we get cynical and just vote our fears, or if we dont vote at all, we wont build on the progress we started. This is a president who doesnt have a clue. And this president now is very interesting because hes going to start campaigning. If he campaigns, that means im allowed to hit him just like i hit bill clinton, right . If he doesnt, i dont care. If he campaigns, and i think he wants to, because he wants to keep this terrible agenda going where everybody is ripping us, where the world is ripping us off assuming president obama will be cam passenger for the democratic nominee in the fall, as we mentioned, he will bring a 51 job Approval Rating according to gallop onto the
trail. He hit the 50 mark, as you mentioned, joe, back in march. So president obama and donald trump at it, so, too, Hillary Clinton and donald trump going at it especially for trump u. You know, you look at barack obama, and you saw especially those first few lines of attacks that he had on his tax plan, his immigration plan, and you actually saw something you havent seen this entire election season, and that is a politician capably and articulately and ably going after donald trump in a way that resonates. It is staggering the number of characters that weve had come on the political stage and exit the political stage without laying a glove on him. I thought yesterday that was a pretty effective line of attack from barack obama. And you know, donald trump coming back attacking him, it
doesnt look funny in that instance, it looks shrill, and it has a lot to do with tone. Thats something for some reason no republican or hillary had been able to do effectively this year. I heard hillary say similar words. I have. I heard her talk about the tone. Barack obama is differencemaker. Those two clips alluded to show vividly. You have the president of the United States and you have a guy in a hat. Its interesting. We talk about 50 Approval Rating across the the country, california not exactly a swing state. Joe, weve fought over the years about barack obama, you cannot argue this gentleman is stunningly president ial compared to trump and hillary. He does speak with gravitas. To mikas point, when you hear him talk about the 11 trillion,
divisiveness, a cadence, gravitas that nobody else brings to the table. Not just the gravitas and the facts but does it in a way that seems to be making fun of donald trump without donald trump getting under his skin. He seems totally in control, barack obama. He seemed to enjoy taking it to donald trump. Willie, you know, willie geist, thats somethinge said from the beginning. The way you beat donald trump is not getting angry and rising up or even getting down in the gutter with donald trump, you sort of mock him lightly. This is something that barack obama can do, and hes president of the United States, so, yes, he looks president ial after eight years. Its also something if joe biden were running against him he could effectively do. I would say if mitt romney were running against him he could effectively do it. Anybody that had gravitas, anybody that had an air about them, again, as mike said, would look much more president ial. Then you go to the attack with a guy in the hat yelling insults. Part of it is new. We havent seen president obama do this and come out. I think now president obama sees donald trump as a real threat. If he was a joke in the months past to everybody and to president obama, now he sees this as a threat not only to his legacy, thats why he wants Hillary Clinton to run and thats why hell be out stumping with her over the next few months but genuinely to the country. I think hes threatened by the ideas he proposed to the country. He needs to get out there, and he will, and defend not only his legacy but the country. I think you know, mika, things are sort of changing dramatically in this campaign and youre going to have a lot of different lines of attacks. Barack obama coming out there is going to make it very interesting. Well see again how donald trump handles it. Hes been the last two or three weeks especially shrill, seeming to actually get off of his game. I think the pressure only picks up between now and november. Its going to be fascinating to see how he responds. Go ahead. You know whats interesting, since march, obviously since march trump has brought the Party Together and hillary is stumbling. Yet the trend in the polls, hes only moved a point or two in the last several months given obviously his moment and antimoment for hillary, so there is a kind of trend of a lack of growth, if you will, given the situation i dont think bodes well for him. Joe, i cant remember the last week or two, i werent on the program in the last month or two and said i think this guy is going to win. I feel differently in the last month or two, theres no lodge toik me why he hasnt pivoted and seems to be stumbling backwards in his own way. On some level he doesnt want to be president. I cant explain it any other way. Thats what weve said, donny, maybe this guy just doesnt want to be president. It not like we have not been
telegraphing every day what he has to do. Two, three weeks ago hes in trouble with women, in trouble with hispanics, he needs to pivot, he needs to act more president ial. He needs to do all these things i know his family has been telling him privately he needs to do. Hes become more shrill by the day, whether talking about attacking susana martinez, the head of the republican governors association, whether youre talking about that press conference, whether youre calling reporters from abc sleaze bags. This is not a man who seems to want to be president of the United States. Mika, weve seed it, it doesnt make sense unless he has a political death wish and doesnt want to win this thing. He didnt expect to be here, maybe he doesnt want to be here. Maybe he wants to go back to golfing every day and riding around in his rolls roy. For people that know him, seems the only option. Legal battles taking center
stage. A new report from usa today found trump and his businesses have been involved in at least 3500 lawsuits over three decades, an unprecedented number for a president ial nominee. That number includes 70 new cases filed in the last year, evenly split between lawsuits he has filed and ones filed against him. In the majority of cases, trump or his businesses were the plaintiffs in the suits uncovered. An analysis of businesses his size found his number of lawsuit far above the norm. By comparison Hillary Clinton has been named in more than 900 lawsuits mostly as dependent, mostly unrelated to clinton and directed at the government. Yesterday trump undertook damage control after a document dump in his court struggle with students for profit real estate program. Nbcs katy tur has the details. Reporter donald trump selling the American Dream on the campaign trail. I will give you everything. Reporter now defunct four universities accused of crushing that scheme, scamming students with aggressive sales practices and false promises. Success. Its going to happen to you. Reporter trumps secrets to selling unsealed by a federal judge. Hundreds of documents, including testimony, from one former Sales Manager saying Trump University was a fraudulent scheme that preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from there money. Another Sales Executive saying it was just selling false hopes and lies. The candidate facing trial in november is now calling out the ethnicity of the cases indianaborn judge. The judge who happens to be, we believe, mexican, which is great. What hes doing is a total disgrace. Trumps lawyers deny fraud and point nbc news to this campaign video. I must tell you that the courses that i took were outstanding. Reporter the University Seminars at first free were aggressively upsold from 1500
to 35,000. Students allegedly encouraged to max out their credit cards prosecute i was highly deceived. Hannah drained retirement for Trump University. I get this sick feeling in hi stomach to not only see that from my own personal experience but i see him playing those same exact cards with this whole country. So joe, Hillary Clinton capitalized on the revelations at a rally in newark yesterday trying to demonstrate they are part of a wider trump narrative. His own employees testified that trump u you cant make this up that trump u was a fraudulent scheme where donald trump enriched himself at the expense of hardworking people. This is just more evidence that donald trump himself is a fraud. He is trying to scam america the way he scammed all those people at trump u. Its important that we recognize what he has done, because thats usually a pretty good catindico of what he will do. Pretty strong. Retweeted from mitt romney and marco rubio criticized donald trump on Trump University. Clinton broaden her attacks, a National Security speech, her campaign is promising to contrast Donald Trumps incessant trash talking of america. Trump, meanwhile, was quick to attack clinton during a rally in sacramento last night. Hillary is not a talented person. In fact, shes a person with absolutely no natural talent. All you have to do is watch her
speak. You ever notice, even for a minor speech, she has teleprompters. Do i have teleprompters here . No. Shes got like these minor speeches and shes going i saw this a couple of times, four words. Were going to win in the north, south, east and west. Ba ba ba. Oh, boy. So insincere. Hillary clinton, and this is 100 , Hillary Clinton who lies i mean she lies, remember that . I started that. She lies. She lies. She made a speech and shes making another one tomorrow. They sent me a copy of the speech. It was such lies about my Foreign Policy. I want japan to nuke i want japan to get nuclear weapons. Give me a break. If anything, joe, hes still talking to the base. As donny pointed out
comparatively in those two sound bites Hillary Clinton attacking him elegantly and strongly, i thought effectively, to donald trump in the hat, he looked almost unhinged, like he needed a prompter badly. Again, katty kay, for some time weve heard reports in the press that the family has been trying to get donald trump to look more president ial. Paul manafort has been trying to get donald trump to look more president ial. They are obviously losing that battle. Here we are in the general election for the most part. We might as well be, and hes talking about her speaking ability and just says she lies, lies, lies, lies. Like hes running against ted cruz here. Hes regressing as a political candidate and its one of the more baffling things ive seen. Theres almost a sense of
despair about the way he reaches for superlatives. Not just she has no talent. She has absolutely no talent. She is a liar. He can almost will himself to make this the truth. If you contrast that to what Hillary Clinton was saying, yesterday i was at that rally in rutgers and she seemed, joe, to be very happy on the stage. She seemed to enjoy this new line of attack on him. She went straight out and went straight after him on Trump University. It was the first thing she said. She had specifics. She was going after trump u. That was fraudulent. She wasnt saying he is, blanket, a fraud. There is a difference in tone about it. You listen to donald trump in that clip and it sounds slightly desperate. Willie, weve known donald for a long time. Weve known him personally for a long time. Hes been a friend. And people have been asking me over the past couple of weeks whats going on with him. I havent a clue. But do you have any working theories here about why he seems to be moving the exact opposite direction he needs to go to win general election voters. To me its pretty simple, its the lesson he learned through the primary, being donald trump and all that entails is whats gotten him this far and why stop now. Winging it on stage, insulting his opponents, playing fast and loose with the facts. Hes being donald trump. He saw how well it worked. He started last june about a year ago. Wasnt sure what was going to happen. It carried him through the summer, the fall, all those primaries. Why should donald trump change now. I think thats the philosophy hes working under. The truth is hes going to be held to account for a lot of things he said. Hillary clinton has a professional campaign thats looking into these things. Shes going to make a speech today about him proposing japan get nuclear weapons. He said yesterday he didnt say that he did say that. He said japan should have nukes
and start taking care of itself against north korea and we should be sick and tired of defending countries like that. The things he said over the past year will come back to haunt him. Theres another thing happening, i ran into trumps lead counsel and top people. This is going amazing, this is great. Were going to win new jersey. I think theres an insularness within the campaign, closed off, so pumped on each other and not necessarily in touch and perhaps a little delusional about whats been happening over the last couple of weeks. That to me is another explanation. You know, mika, they learned leading into wisconsin what happens when hes not disciplined. He became disciplined after wisconsin. Manafort came on board. Manafort and corey worked together. The family was in there telling me, disciplining himself. We saw donald trump for two or three weeks become very disciplined and he won big states and won a lot. But hes not doing it now. Going back to what willie said maybe explaining in a way donald trump can understand because hes thinking maybe, as willie said, well, ive been myself. Ive insulted people. Ive done all these things and ive won. That was a primary. Thats great. Well, you have a certain game, golf game you take to Augusta National if you want to win the masters. Then if you want to win the british open and the wind is blowing 30 miles an hour and its raining and its in your face, guess what, you know what you do . You get your irons out. You hit it low to the ground. And youre not swinging away like you are number 11 at Augusta National. Youve got to play a different game. It gets tougher right now. Hes at the british open. The winds are 30 miles an hour. Its raining. The wind is in his face. If he thinks the same thing that happens in the republican primary is going to help him win in the general election, he just
is a rank amateur and doesnt know what hes talking about. He calls himself a dealmaker, great negotiator in the art of the deal, you must know you deal with different people differently and you deal on different hes up against Hillary Clinton but hes also now clearly up against barack obama who is a consummate pro at this. Good luck. Still ahead on morning joe, a new