If you believe that donald trump was going to be the nominee and you believe that Bernie Sanders was going to come close, please raise your hand. If you raised your hand, dont drive an automobile. You are a danger to yourself and others. Good morning. It is thursday, june 30th. Welcome to morning joe with a sunset we have legendary columnist and nbc contributor
mike barnicle. He lost about what, willie . 20 of his body. Can we get some encyclopedia britanica. Why are we in this studio . I dont know. It airs at 6 00 p. M. Marc halprin. Can i ask you a question. He says his sweaters make him feel is it warm in here . You cant even look at the sweater. Whats wrong with the sweater . Its not sweater weather. Will somebody get me a jacket . He cant even look at my sweater. He needs a towel. Does he not see kornacki. You have a guy over here melting down. What are you doing . Its a new studio and the Climate Control isnt quite figured out. Its not on tv yet. This is just a dry run. Oh, by the way, willie. Yes. As you know u xwoknow, we inf our money in the dog track. But this brexit thing is a good thing. Its just going to destroy the economy and destroy the stock market. Any investments. I think theyve been completely wip wiped. Out if you invested in 1928, understand everything has been wiped out. Like this is the worst since the great depression, right . It was a rough couple of days and yesterday the markets started to bounce back. Youll be happy to know. The market started to come back yesterday. The elite said this is the end of the world. That locusts were going to descend from the heavens and eat flesh off of anybody how are you doing over there . Im okay. Make you sweat. It has his negatives, but the market climbed up almost 300 points. Biggest two days. Like since gordon gecko roamed the world with the huge cell phones. Can i get to the lead stories now . There are a lot of lead stories. I will finish your sentence and start with politics. A new poll in the president ial race shows the growing worry in the gop about Donald Trumps strug tool find his footing. Hillary clinton with saia sixpt lead over trump. 44 while trump has sunk seven points to 38 . The poll shows the Republican Party is less than united than it was a month ago. Just 74 of republicans backing
trump over clinton down from 82 in may. And when asked who they prefer as the republican nominee, 48 of republicans say, donald trump. 51 say someone else. Lets separate there. Mika, these numbers have gotten worse. What goes up must come down, i suppose. Blood, sweat and tears once sang. But the question is, will this turn around . This is just a snapshot but a pretty bad snapshot. He lost seven points and the Republican Party more divided than it was even a month ago. This is just a snapshot in time. I think things began to really turn for trump in which it wasnt working for him any more during the judge situation. I think he lost all credibility and its very hard for people to stay with him now. And i thought the poll numbers
would go down. I really did. I said it out loud. And they are. Hes going to have to have to do a lot now to pivt ot to the general. Well talk about the pivot. He hasnt done it over the past five weeks. This, obviously, the indiana judge and, actually, postorlando. Him congratulating himself and doing all of these things. You just sort of see the mass accumulation. Again, you look at the state by state polls and hes pretty close in a lot of areas. No doubt hes down seven points. This has been his worth month since he has been campaigning. The Washington Post had him down 12 points and now you have seen the spread of six or seven points in three national polls. You look at ohio, pennsylvania, florida hes even running close enough. But the one poll that mika
showed at the end, more than half of republicans dont think hes the guy. If he cant win over his own party, forget the next step to go to swing voters and maybe some democrats and sanders voters. He has to convince his own party hes the nominee first. By the way, just to put everything in perspective, there is a quinnipiac poll that had him tied. 4240. I think the nbc poll was five or six points. And the abc Washington Post poll had it like 12, 13 behind. Hes lost. Hes lost a lot of points in most of the polls. But, mike, white house whats interesting is that you have a party that split, but hes still attacking his own party. Donald trump is still attacking his own party. He did it again yesterday and we now return to the segment, ask the experts. We have one here. Mark halprin. Its the sweater. Do we have two Donald Trumps active in this campaign . We have the donald trump behind the teleprompter an accurate speech on trade and then the donald trump yesterday largely on the stump. No teleprompters. On tv last night going off the rails in a couple of different situations. How much of this plays into the poll numbers continuing to drop . Hes got to unite the party and reach out at the same time. He has to learn to give teleprompter and do other things. He dozen love the teleprompter. He would rather do big rallies. They have to get ready for the debates and do the daytoday stuff. They are growing. Where are they growing . Theyre hiring people. But he speaks only to the converted already in halls. Theyre there because they really want to hear what he says and they like him. He should be able to reach the blue collar democrats. But they are not out of the race. You know, theyre not out of it. Theyre behind. But theyre not out of it. What we said the other day. If youre going to turn the page, mika, you have to turn the page. You have to unite the entire Republican Party and then you have to move forward. You cant have one day, im going to read the teleprompter today and then the next day go back to july of 2015. Theres got to be consistency every single day. If he doesnt have the discipline to do that every day, Hillary Clinton is going to blow him out. If he had the discipline that he showed in pennsylvania and ohio two days ago and if he carries that over the course of the campaign, this is going to be an incredibly fascinating race. You turn the page and unite the party like this. Take a look. When you sign a pledge, this isnt a pledge that says subject
to me changing my mind. This is a pledge that is legally binding. You want to know the truth. I have guys out there and theyre really sore losers. If you think about it. I would have honored that pledge. I wouldnt have lets yell it from the loudest building, but i would have honored the pledge. Just remember this, they signed a pledge saying they will abide. Saying they will back the candidate of the party. And now they sit back and the pledge is out there and the press doesnt even go after him on that. They broke their word, in my opinion. They should never be allowed to run for Public Office, again. What they did is disgusting. The stupidity is breathtaking. The stupidity is breathtaking. Here you have a guy that delivers a speech that actually can convert democrats in ohio and pennsylvania and across the
rust belt. And then the next day hes talking about people. Willie hes talking about other peoples jobs and bringing jobs back to america. Hes not obsessed with the minutia of america. Then he goes off on gop candidates. Theyre not going to endorse him. He keeps knocking him around that way. But who cares . Who cares if jeb bush endorses him . Who cares if john kasich endorses him . Hes upset its like when he was ahead in 49 states in polls, but just losing in iowa. He went to iowa and called people in iowa stupid. I wonder why he lost in iowa. He said, what are you stupid . The guy, is he capable of being disciplined and moving on . It doesnt appear so. Every time he takes a step forward, he takes a couple steps back. If you want to win the state of ohio going after john kasich, who is popular among republicans attacking john kasich for not agreeing to the pledge that was signed months ago is probably not the best approach. For donald trump, just part of his personality. Score settling. Its vendettas and people who slighted him and wronged him and carries a chip on his shoulder about it. But strategically Going Forward and running off popular governors of swing states is maybe not the best idea. When he wasnt going after people in his own party, donald trump yesterday continued to blame Hillary Clinton for the rise of the islamic state. Isis was formed during her tenure. Isis is now worse than ever. You see what happened yesterday and you see whats going on generally. Isis is looking strong. Isis is signing up people over the internet. They know how to use the internet better than we do and we do nothing about anything. Theyre taking our youth. You know why theyre taking our
youth . Because they look like theyre winning. Shes not going to get tougher. It started under her. It was a little group of people and it could have been wiped out quickly and effectively then and now its a very large group of people and only getting bigger. If she gets in, it will be massive and we wont have a country any more. Well be afraid to walk outside. Bill, remember one other thing. Theyre letting tens of thousands of people come in from syria and nobody knows who these people are and a lot of those people are isis. Actually, actually plays in the Fall Campaign where youre actually a republican criticizing a democratic nominee, presumptive nominee. It will play for a while. Wont play in the big picture. You cannot run on fear and win. I thought thats what we did in america. No. He cant do it. He cant do it. You dont think, you dont think that no. Again, i fall back on what is going to happen to his language and once he gets intelligence briefings. He is so far off the rails on this, its great. Two elements to this campaign. The head and the heart. If youre thinking about the United States, Hillary Clinton is voting with her heart. Did you say this in 2004 that people dont vote their fears . Because people voted their fear in 2004. I dont criticize people for voting their fears. In 2004 i voted for my fears because i voted for george w. Bush because i didnt think john kerry would be Strong Enough. Why didnt you think he would be Strong Enough . Just a gut feeling. Because i thought he would be ringing his hands in critical times and he wouldnt be able to make strong decisions. And, again, i dont want to
replay 2004. What about the oreilly line that just popped up last night . Thousands coming in from syria and theyre isis. Not thousands coming in. Thousands coming in where . Into the United States. Were not going to have a country any more. In the element that bush had besides fear mongering a little bit is that he was stable. And had a team that was stable, so to speak. And i think what the clinton people view as trumps vulinability. People vote their gut. Who is going to protect my kids. Listen, im very concerned about donald trump. Ive expressed those concerns repeatedly for some time. But, there are people out there hearing donald trump talking about isis who are going to say, hey, he is going to protect us more than say Hillary Clinton. You had yesterday the cia director brennan come out yesterday in a pretty amazing
interview and say what happened in istanbul absolutely could happen in the United States of america and probably people training and trying to make it happen right now. Cia director says it right now. When donald trump goes on that statement and says what he says, that will resonate with some people. If the cia director says its coming here. Which one of these candidates will be stronger for me . Some people will say its Hillary Clinton because of her experience at state and others will say donald trump on a pure gut level. I brought up, mika, 2004, because i remember you telling me a long time ago how it would make you angry in 2004 when people said they were going to vote for george w. Bush pause he was going to make them safer. Again, im not saying it is right or wrong, i do think people vote their gut a lot of times and they vote their fears. Here is as you were mentioning, brennan talk about the next potential attack. Surprising to me that isil is not trying to hit us both in the
region, as well as in our homeland. If anybody here believes that the u. S. Homeland is sealed and that that they would not consider that, i think i would guard against that. Some tough talk, mike. Very tough talk, but very realistic talk because you cant erect a barricade around the United States of america. There are free lances in this country probably affiliated with isis who could carry out what was carried out in istanbul. No doubt about that. Donald trump goes around saying were doing virtually nothing to conduct the operation around isis. Thats not true. At some point hell be asked, donald, what would you do . Im not comparing donald trump to jfk. I just happen to be reviewing a book right now about the kennedys. And you look, john kennedy just
made up a missile gap with the soviets. They invented it out of thin air. Every historian will tell you, they just lied about a missile cap that didnt exist. And it worked. Trump will win if people want change. And president obamas Approval Rating is up but his numbers on handling terror and dealing with isis are not as high as his overall numbers. So, people may be willing to take a chance. I think in the end, he will have to be a candidate for change with a little more reassurance than he has given people. But, again, do people vote their fears . Thats the question about the missile gap versus in 2004. They vote anxiety and they vote the status quo isnt good and the way were trying to protect ourselves isnt the way to do it and Hillary Clinton largely campaigning on continuity. You have the anxiety of isis and then the anxiety that donald
trump creates around himself. When he shows the extraordinary lack of discipline that he showed yesterday. Instead of staying focused and talking about workers and the working class and talking about struggling americans and talking about Hillary Clinton and her failures. He goes back and he starts attempting jeb bush and john kasich, its mind boggling. If you were advising donald trump, the key thing, i dont know if you can hear this. People do vote their fears, they do. But they cant fear you. They cant fear that youre unhinged. They cant fear that youre inconsistent. They cant fear you say one thing and mean another. They keecant fear that youll blurt out a lie. They cant fear in the middle of a conference over lets say in geneva where youre negotiating something thats extraordinarily important to the United States that you read an article and then you go off on
merkel. Or you go off on somebody else the next day. In a press conference. Does he have any discipline at all . Can he do the same thing two days in a row . Right now, the answer seems to be a resounding no. Still ahead on morning joe so much to talk about. Donald trump says he knows how Bernie Sanders feels about Hillary Clinton. Well play that for you coming up. Not every day that you see the attorney general of the United States meeting privately with the husband of someone under an fbi investigation. Is that good or bad . Not ideal. That Loretta Lynch is meeting with bill clinton while the whole world is wondering whether hillary is going to be indicted or not. They meet privately. It was a chance meeting. A chance meeting. Did either one of them have anybody around them saying, hey, you know what, you guys probably should not meet privately. Unless they need to meet privately. Sorry. Thats just what it is. And bill needs to get assurances that shes not going to be indicted. How do they not talk about that . Thats mind boggling. First, heres bill karins with a check on the forecast. Not too early for the holiday forecast. Already about dodging the thunderstorms. Already in areas of kansas and missouri and even oklahoma. That is the area of concern over the upcoming days. Any weather headlines and a flash flooding problems watch out around kansas city to top a topeka. Thats where the frontal boundary will set up all weekend long. Also this afternoon watch out in the carolincarolinas. Lets get into your fourth of july weekend forecast. Scattered thunderstorms and airport delays that will be late in the afternoon to the evening. D. C. , philadelphia, new york included. And then typical storms from denver out to kansas city. Saturday as we head through the weekend, kind of the same thing. Very warm through the southern half of the country. Right in the middle here that well have the showers and storms and even into sunday kind of a similar forecast. For the fourth of july, i dont think anyone will get rained on all day long but watch out for storms in the ohio valley and the midatlantic. Looks great for the macys fireworks in new york and chicago youre off to a great start for your fourth of july. Washington, d. C. , a warmer day. Little touch of humidity and slight chance of a lateday storm and overall looks like a really nice morning. Well be right back. What powers the Digital World . Communication. Like centurylinks Broadband Network that gives 35,000 fans a cutting edge game experience. Or the network that keeps a leading hotel chains guests connected at work, and at play. Or the it platform that powers millions of ecards every day for one of the largest greeting card companies. Businesses count on communication, and communication counts on centurylink. My cousins wedding is c ming soon. I like the bride more than the groom. Turquoise dresses. So excited. Did all her exes get invited . No ones got moves like uncle joe. When its go book on choicehotels. Com for instant rewards like gift cards, plus savings of up to 20 . Book direct at choicehotels. Com i know what he thinks inside. He hates her. He hates her. I mean, he cannot stand her. Im pritetty good with people. Bernie sanders cannot stand Hillary Clinton. 24 past th