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s the one. The best for your skin. Ultra sheer®. Neutrogena®. See whats possible. At this moment entime, nobody seems to be talking to one another in terms of police in the communities. You just cant be law and order and not community. You cant be community and not law and order. On the ground where its complicated and really matters, you have to do it all at the same time. What were trying to do here, were asking cops to do too much in this country. Our Police Officers, the men and women who stand each day to protect us need to understand that the president of the United States and his administration will give them the benefit of the doubt, not always believe what they have done is somehow wrong. We need to stand behind the men and women in blue in this country. The president believes we have made progress and are far more unified than if you watch cable tv. The perception sold by whomever, my god, things are so much worse than they are, than they were eight years ago. Its simply not true. Good morning. Its tuesday, july 12th. Mika has the morning off. With us on set legendary lets here is, even in the news studio legendary columnist and msnbc contributor Mike Barnicle. Former Communications Director for george w. Bush nicolle wallace. Also bbc world news matter katty kay. Msnbc political analyst Eugene Robinson. We have so much to talk about as far as a lot of polls out. The race is changing by the moment. But speaking of politic, lets talk katy kay about whats happening in britain very quickly. You think its crazy here you think its crazy here, try our politics at the moment. You have the new Prime Minister. David cameron is packing his bags as we speak. Hell be out of 10 do you think street by wednesday evening. The person who is going to replace him teresa may has been in charge of homeland security. You like her, shes in the conservative party. I hear shes a moderate. More of a moderate. Here is an interesting thing. She voted to stay in the European Union and now has to lead the campaign to leave it. Our politics is mad. It is mad right now. Nicole, speaking of mad politics, jeb bush telling you why he was not doing to vote in november. Talk about how jeb was and just ort of the temperature there regarding the Republican Party. You know, he didnt arrive at this decision to vote for neither Hillary Clinton nor donald trump easily but hes not doing to move off of it. Hes completely hardened in his position against trump, he views him as temperamentally disqualified. I pressed him whether or not hed consider Hillary Clinton as a choice on the commander in chief question. He said the fbi and james comeys indictment equally disqualified. What about the american peoples indictment yesterday, Washington Post abc news poll, i was stunned, 56 of americans think comey made a mistake, that he should have indicted her. Only Something Like 35 of americans think she shouldnt have been indicted. There we go. Thats a plus 21. It was a Staggering Number to me. Not that i didnt think comey messed up, i just didnt think so Many Americans agreed with me. This will have an impact significantly this fall. Maybe ratings are even better than we thought for the people that listen. The numbers surprised me, too. I talked to jeb bush last night, i cant vote for either one absolutely drives me crazy in a man who ran for president , who wanted to be president of theUnited States. President s of the United States have to make tough decisions all the time, decisions where they have two bad alternatives, yet they have to make the decision. They cant say i cant decide. He should decide. Got to make a decision. Mike, finally, before we get the news, i cant let this pass, we had when we came in the discussion on whether things were horrible, we were falling off a cliff, 1968. We had a discussion about this, i saw a lot after the horrors of dallas and baton rouge and minneapolis that showed me this weekend that we werent as divided as people thought. I saw a lot of people on the left reaching to the center. I saw a lot of people on the right doing the same. Of course they are going to be the loud mouths that are going to be those that make a lot of money by tearing us apart, but this isnt 1968, is it . No, these wont be chicago in 1968. I was in chicago in 196. The biggest difference i think, my perception of it is, theres no one like Robert Kennedy standing up in indianapolis after Martin Luther king was killed, no one in our Political Leadership who can lower the flame, the collective flame in this country and speak to these ills. Weve seen violence in too Many American cities, who shouldous vi horrendous violence last week in dallas, also in schools, hospitals, urban areas, drug epidemics that plague to many cities. Violence of institutions are equally dangerous as the violence that occurs at the end of a pistol. Again, we dont have that unifying figure like you said. The president on this issue, hes the man, has struck a tone. Of course hes hammered by both sides. People on the left dont think hes criticizing police enough. People on the right think hes criticizing police too much, when, in fact, i thought at least over the past year or two hes tried to go down the middle but its never enough. One thing that is different from 68 in terms of the heat of the conversation is the media landscape. That is driving up the heat on both the left and the right and we didnt have that in 68. You could cut through with a message. One clarifying aspect, when i was talking about no leaders willing to speak to the issue and lower the flame, i was not referring to the president of the United States. He is the man on this. He has been tremendous on this at every point. But youre not seeing it from the candidates. No. Dont expect to either. A lot of news still on this. Last night hundreds turned out in dallas to remember the five officers killed in thursdays ambush on police in dallas. Funerals are set for tomorrow and thursday. Today president obama will speak at an Interfaith Memorial Service in dallas. Hell travel there with the first lady, the Vice President and Vice President s wife. President george w. Bush will also speak at that same service. Former First Lady Laura Bush will be there as well. With the recent unrest as backdrop donald trump spoke in virginia. He delivered a policy speech promising expanded options for Veterans Health care. Played heavily in the speech as well as trump presented himself as the law and order candidate. The police are needed the most where crime is the highest. Politicians and activists who seek to remove police or policing from a community are hurting the poorest and most vulnerable americans. Its time for our hostility against our police and against all members of Law Enforcement to end and end immediately right now. We must discuss as well the ongoing catastrophe of crime in our inner tice. Our inner cities are rife with crime. New york times describes startling rise in murders in our cities. Brutal drug cartels are extending their reach into virginia and maryland. Too Many Americans are trapped in fear, violence and poverty. Our inner cities have been left totally behind. Im going to fight to make sure every citizen of this country has a safe home, a safe school, and a safe community. We must maintain law and order at the highest level, or we will cease to have a country 100 . We will cease to have a country. I am the law and order candidate. Not only am i the law and order candidate, but im also the candidate of compassion, believe it. Al hunt, we were talking about 1968, talking about echos of 1968, 1972, the law and order candidate Richard Nixon and now, of course, donald trump trying to grab that mantel. George wallace 1968 and 72 also really inflamed a great deal. I havent met a lot of politicians that want to remove police from communities. Theres criticism of police from some quarters but i find very few people who want to take police out of communities. I think this is if the racial tensions become more inflamed, clearly donald trump is one who might take advantage of that. The difference between now and 68 are profound. Theres war back then, writing in the streets, demographic profile difference, more tolerance. Thats not to say theres not tensions today. Not to say dallas and these other incidents in louisiana and minnesota last week dont point to a serious problem, but i think the parallel from 68 are a bit off. But nicole, you look at how he did yesterday, the message he delivered. This seems to go to the same group of voters you were talking about when he talked tough on terrorism. Even more, i think the way hes handle himself since thursday is, you know, and this the whole riddle wrapped in a conundrum thats trump, but you know, this reaches a broader swath of electorate, the one he needs. I think women make up the largest part of independent voters, swing voters, and i think hes acted in a responsible and comforting manner. Now, the pattern has been to do so for a few days, stick to the script for a few days and then to start riffing a la standup comedian when he gets behind the podium. But he has managed to not do that for three days. That it counts as remarkable may be the problem in itself but i think hes strung together three or four very solid days. He has from the statement immediately after dallas to the speech yesterday. A heck of a bar for donald trump, hes not ranting and raving. And Hillary Clinton didnt get indicted. Lets not make that a commentary. Just in terms of what he factually said, to compare this to 1968, im sorry, you look at the crime rate in 1968 and look at the crime rate now, its way down, more than a third, almost a half. Theres no comparison at all. Its a different time. The real one of the real tragedies of this happening in dallas is that dallas is a city where Police Reforms were working. David brown became police chief, complaints of Excessive Force are down by twothirds, twothirds. Police shootings were theres one so far this year. Knowing your community, deescalating can we scale across the country what hes doing. Look, if it can happen in dallas dallas is not some maam mamby, pamby city, were talking a real city, not vermont. Hillary clinton and donald trump speak to it a little but largely how complex it is. You have Police Departments in this country, many of them in large cities, where the cops cant afford to live in the city where they work so they live 35 miles away from the places they patrol. You have a similar aspect in 1968, inner cities, theres isolation in inner cities. You can go blocks without finding a good grocery store. You can go blocks without finding a good grocery store. You can go miles without finding a terrific school. Thats similar to 1968. We all think other than Eugene Robinson that burlington is a real city. We love you burlington, vermont. I love burlington, too. I dont know a real city howard dean cooling on that one. Lets get to a lot of new polling in the white house race thats come out this morning. Donald trump is gaining back some of his losses against Hillary Clinton this week. A threepoint race in the nbc survey monkey tracking poll with clinton ahead 47 to 44 . Clinton clinging to a nor owe lead in fourway matchup 40 to trumps 38 , libertarian gary johnson climbs into double digits of 11 and Green Party Jill stein taking 6 points. Swing state of nevada shows clinton with four points over trump. In the margin of error, 4544 . Gary johnson at 5 . The brandnew poll of College Educated voters show clinton with a 22point lead, 54 to 32 in the Bloomberg Politics purple slice poll. Barack obama won that group, by the way, by just 2 points in 2012 when it represented 47 of the electorate. Among white voters with just a College Degree clinton has 11 point lead, no democratic voter has won College Educated voters since 1962. Al hunt, thats your poll. Tell us about it. If we can define a base, lets take 2012 than a base. If the candidate wants to do better than losing candidate last time, he or she has to do pretty much as well in most groups. I think for trump this time, other than mormons he has to do almost as well as ronnie did and then do better among White Working Class and older voters and the like. These are College Educated likes. This is a republican constituency. Mitt romney carried it by 14 points and hes losing it by 11. Every time i look at one of these slices it makes some other surveys at least more questionable. I just dont see right now where trump is making up those votes that romney couldnt get, certainly not with College Educated voters. Its not, nicole. Thats exactly what i was thinking when we were looking at all the polls. Asking ourselves, where is he making this up because hes making it up. Hes basically even in National Polls. Then in just about every swing state poll we have seen over the past two or three weeks, trump is either tied or ahead. We saw it again in nevada. You asked me yesterday pout what i think is the most startling figure, the gender gap. I think hillary has a 22point advantage among women. Hes making it up among what has been his base since june of last year. Hes making it up among this sort of swath, slice that isnt ideological, not the Republican Base we think of, the disaffected economy voters, people who are angry about trade, the people who are just dealing with sort of constant economic insecurity. In our world were hearing probably as republicans from a lot of College Educated republicans and traditional republicans like jeb bush saying im not voting for trump. Then elsewhere youre having a lot of democrats say im not voting for Hillary Clinton. Obviously if you look at these numbers i dont remember if we had this conversation on tv or not but we were debating whether or not the hidden trump vote is bigger or the hidden hillary vote is bigger. By that i mean people for trump but dont want to come out of the closet yet and embrace him because of some of the more radical and controversial things he says or the people who secretly and privately vote for hillary because they are part of the republican establishment and uncomfortable with i think polls will they have been mostly correct. The primary polls were right. Unless youre in britain. Those polls are never right. Youve seen i call them aaa voters, alienated, anxious and angry. They are all over the place. Thats how he makes it up, i think. Right. But not like right, left. I spent the morning the other day with a talk radio show host in virginia who described what he calls the wussification of american male, democrat or republican. These are men who grew up expecting one kind of life, which is the life their father and grandfather had, the life they would be able to work hard and provide for their families. That life doesnt exist anymore. Those are the people flocking to trump. It doesnt matter whether their families voted democrat in the past or republican in the past, they see a world that has changed, a world they feel they have been left behind by the forces of globalization, call it what you will and thats the protest vote in america, the vote that likes what it hears in trump. If theres a bradley effect, al hunt, at least for what ive experienced, its for trump. Theres so many times ive talked to groups or had people come up and nobody would admit in big groups they were voting for trump, nobody. Then they come up and whisper as they are leaving, im voting for trump, im voting for trump. I think the polls may be as hard to read here as they have been in britain over the past couple of years. Joe, they may be. If there is a bradley effect, it probably would advantage trump more than clinton. Im not quite sure i agree with you that these polls show this tight of race. A whole host of polls, Washington Post and reuters and bloomberg and pew in the last few weeks all show a race close to double digits. Al, thats the tale of two polls. The polls weve been showing that, i know bloomberg has but weve been showing one nbc poll after another and several other polls that National Polls show it very close. Washington and pew. More surprising to me is a lot of these swing state polls seem to be close. In some states thats clearly the case, but also North Carolina is very close, nevada as you reported this morning, is very close. Ohio, pennsylvania, florida, the swing states. There havent been very many good polls in a place like pennsylvania. I think if you take the totality of the polls she has an advantage today. Thats not an advantage that is very commanding and also not an advantage that has anything to do with her, it has to do with trump. Maybe there will be, as you call it, the bradley effect back to los angeles and silent voters. We didnt see that much in the primary, maybe they will in the general. I think theres not much evidence of that yet. Still weve got a big show ahead this morning. Retired general Michael Flynn on Police Officers<\/a>, the men and women who stand each day to protect us need to understand that the president of the United States<\/a> and his administration will give them the benefit of the doubt, not always believe what they have done is somehow wrong. We need to stand behind the men and women in blue in this country. The president believes we have made progress and are far more unified than if you watch cable tv. The perception sold by whomever, my god, things are so much worse than they are, than they were eight years ago. Its simply not true. Good morning. Its tuesday, july 12th. Mika has the morning off. With us on set legendary lets here is, even in the news studio legendary columnist and msnbc contributor Mike Barnicle<\/a>. Former Communications Director<\/a> for george w. Bush nicolle wallace. Also bbc world news matter katty kay. Msnbc political analyst Eugene Robinson<\/a>. We have so much to talk about as far as a lot of polls out. The race is changing by the moment. But speaking of politic, lets talk katy kay about whats happening in britain very quickly. You think its crazy here you think its crazy here, try our politics at the moment. You have the new Prime Minister<\/a>. David cameron is packing his bags as we speak. Hell be out of 10 do you think street by wednesday evening. The person who is going to replace him teresa may has been in charge of homeland security. You like her, shes in the conservative party. I hear shes a moderate. More of a moderate. Here is an interesting thing. She voted to stay in the European Union<\/a> and now has to lead the campaign to leave it. Our politics is mad. It is mad right now. Nicole, speaking of mad politics, jeb bush telling you why he was not doing to vote in november. Talk about how jeb was and just ort of the temperature there regarding the Republican Party<\/a>. You know, he didnt arrive at this decision to vote for neither Hillary Clinton<\/a> nor donald trump easily but hes not doing to move off of it. Hes completely hardened in his position against trump, he views him as temperamentally disqualified. I pressed him whether or not hed consider Hillary Clinton<\/a> as a choice on the commander in chief question. He said the fbi and james\rcomeys indictment equally disqualified. What about the american peoples indictment yesterday, Washington Post<\/a> abc news poll, i was stunned, 56 of americans think comey made a mistake, that he should have indicted her. Only Something Like<\/a> 35 of americans think she shouldnt have been indicted. There we go. Thats a plus 21. It was a Staggering Number<\/a> to me. Not that i didnt think comey messed up, i just didnt think so Many Americans<\/a> agreed with me. This will have an impact significantly this fall. Maybe ratings are even better than we thought for the people that listen. The numbers surprised me, too. I talked to jeb bush last night, i cant vote for either one absolutely drives me crazy in a man who ran for president , who wanted to be president of the\rUnited States<\/a>. President s of the United States<\/a> have to make tough decisions all the time, decisions where they have two bad alternatives, yet they have to make the decision. They cant say i cant decide. He should decide. Got to make a decision. Mike, finally, before we get the news, i cant let this pass, we had when we came in the discussion on whether things were horrible, we were falling off a cliff, 1968. We had a discussion about this, i saw a lot after the horrors of dallas and baton rouge and minneapolis that showed me this weekend that we werent as divided as people thought. I saw a lot of people on the left reaching to the center. I saw a lot of people on the right doing the same. Of course they are going to be the loud mouths that are going to be those that make a lot of money by tearing us apart, but this isnt 1968, is it . No, these wont be chicago in 1968. I was in chicago in 196. The biggest difference i think, my perception of it is, theres no one like Robert Kennedy<\/a> standing up in indianapolis after Martin Luther<\/a> king was killed, no one in our Political Leadership<\/a> who can lower the flame, the collective flame in this country and speak to these ills. Weve seen violence in too Many American<\/a> cities, who shouldous vi horrendous violence last week in dallas, also in schools, hospitals, urban areas, drug epidemics that plague to many cities. Violence of institutions are equally dangerous as the violence that occurs at the end of a pistol. Again, we dont have that unifying figure like you said. The president on this issue, hes the man, has struck a tone. Of course hes hammered by both\rsides. People on the left dont think hes criticizing police enough. People on the right think hes criticizing police too much, when, in fact, i thought at least over the past year or two hes tried to go down the middle but its never enough. One thing that is different from 68 in terms of the heat of the conversation is the media landscape. That is driving up the heat on both the left and the right and we didnt have that in 68. You could cut through with a message. One clarifying aspect, when i was talking about no leaders willing to speak to the issue and lower the flame, i was not referring to the president of the United States<\/a>. He is the man on this. He has been tremendous on this at every point. But youre not seeing it from the candidates. No. Dont expect to either. A lot of news still on this. Last night hundreds turned out in dallas to remember the five officers killed in thursdays ambush on police in dallas. Funerals are set for tomorrow and thursday. Today president obama will speak\rat an Interfaith Memorial Service<\/a> in dallas. Hell travel there with the first lady, the Vice President<\/a> and Vice President<\/a> s wife. President george w. Bush will also speak at that same service. Former First Lady Laura Bush<\/a> will be there as well. With the recent unrest as backdrop donald trump spoke in virginia. He delivered a policy speech promising expanded options for Veterans Health<\/a> care. Played heavily in the speech as well as trump presented himself as the law and order candidate. The police are needed the most where crime is the highest. Politicians and activists who seek to remove police or policing from a community are hurting the poorest and most vulnerable americans. Its time for our hostility against our police and against all members of Law Enforcement<\/a> to end and end immediately right\rnow. We must discuss as well the ongoing catastrophe of crime in our inner tice. Our inner cities are rife with crime. New york times describes startling rise in murders in our cities. Brutal drug cartels are extending their reach into virginia and maryland. Too Many Americans<\/a> are trapped in fear, violence and poverty. Our inner cities have been left totally behind. Im going to fight to make sure every citizen of this country has a safe home, a safe school, and a safe community. We must maintain law and order at the highest level, or we will cease to have a country 100 . We will cease to have a country. I am the law and order candidate. Not only am i the law and order candidate, but im also the candidate of compassion, believe it. Al hunt, we were talking about 1968, talking about echos of 1968, 1972, the law and order candidate Richard Nixon<\/a> and now, of course, donald trump trying to grab that mantel. George wallace 1968 and 72 also really inflamed a great deal. I havent met a lot of politicians that want to remove police from communities. Theres criticism of police from some quarters but i find very few people who want to take police out of communities. I think this is if the racial tensions become more inflamed,\rclearly donald trump is one who might take advantage of that. The difference between now and 68 are profound. Theres war back then, writing in the streets, demographic profile difference, more tolerance. Thats not to say theres not tensions today. Not to say dallas and these other incidents in louisiana and minnesota last week dont point to a serious problem, but i think the parallel from 68 are a bit off. But nicole, you look at how he did yesterday, the message he delivered. This seems to go to the same group of voters you were talking about when he talked tough on terrorism. Even more, i think the way hes handle himself since thursday is, you know, and this the whole riddle wrapped in a conundrum thats trump, but you know, this reaches a broader swath of electorate, the one he needs. I think women make up the\rlargest part of independent voters, swing voters, and i think hes acted in a responsible and comforting manner. Now, the pattern has been to do so for a few days, stick to the script for a few days and then to start riffing a la standup comedian when he gets behind the podium. But he has managed to not do that for three days. That it counts as remarkable may be the problem in itself but i think hes strung together three or four very solid days. He has from the statement immediately after dallas to the speech yesterday. A heck of a bar for donald trump, hes not ranting and raving. And Hillary Clinton<\/a> didnt get indicted. Lets not make that a commentary. Just in terms of what he factually said, to compare this to 1968, im sorry, you look at the crime rate in 1968 and look at the crime rate now, its way\rdown, more than a third, almost a half. Theres no comparison at all. Its a different time. The real one of the real tragedies of this happening in dallas is that dallas is a city where Police Reforms<\/a> were working. David brown became police chief, complaints of Excessive Force<\/a> are down by twothirds, twothirds. Police shootings were theres one so far this year. Knowing your community, deescalating can we scale across the country what hes doing. Look, if it can happen in dallas dallas is not some maam mamby, pamby city, were talking a real city, not vermont. Hillary clinton and donald trump speak to it a little but\rlargely how complex it is. You have Police Departments<\/a> in this country, many of them in large cities, where the cops cant afford to live in the city where they work so they live 35 miles away from the places they patrol. You have a similar aspect in 1968, inner cities, theres isolation in inner cities. You can go blocks without finding a good grocery store. You can go blocks without finding a good grocery store. You can go miles without finding a terrific school. Thats similar to 1968. We all think other than Eugene Robinson<\/a> that burlington is a real city. We love you burlington, vermont. I love burlington, too. I dont know a real city howard dean cooling on that one. Lets get to a lot of new polling in the white house race thats come out this morning. Donald trump is gaining back some of his losses against Hillary Clinton<\/a> this week. A threepoint race in the nbc survey monkey tracking poll with clinton ahead 47 to 44 . Clinton clinging to a nor owe lead in fourway matchup 40 to trumps 38 , libertarian gary johnson climbs into double digits of 11 and Green Party Jill<\/a> stein taking 6 points. Swing state of nevada shows clinton with four points over trump. In the margin of error, 4544 . Gary johnson at 5 . The brandnew poll of College Educated<\/a> voters show clinton with a 22point lead, 54 to 32 in the Bloomberg Politics<\/a> purple slice poll. Barack obama won that group, by the way, by just 2 points in 2012 when it represented 47 of the electorate. Among white voters with just a College Degree<\/a> clinton has 11 point lead, no democratic voter has won College Educated<\/a> voters\rsince 1962. Al hunt, thats your poll. Tell us about it. If we can define a base, lets take 2012 than a base. If the candidate wants to do better than losing candidate last time, he or she has to do pretty much as well in most groups. I think for trump this time, other than mormons he has to do almost as well as ronnie did and then do better among White Working Class<\/a> and older voters and the like. These are College Educated<\/a> likes. This is a republican constituency. Mitt romney carried it by 14 points and hes losing it by 11. Every time i look at one of these slices it makes some other surveys at least more questionable. I just dont see right now where trump is making up those votes that romney couldnt get, certainly not with College Educated<\/a> voters. Its not, nicole. Thats exactly what i was\rthinking when we were looking at all the polls. Asking ourselves, where is he making this up because hes making it up. Hes basically even in National Polls<\/a>. Then in just about every swing state poll we have seen over the past two or three weeks, trump is either tied or ahead. We saw it again in nevada. You asked me yesterday pout what i think is the most startling figure, the gender gap. I think hillary has a 22point advantage among women. Hes making it up among what has been his base since june of last year. Hes making it up among this sort of swath, slice that isnt ideological, not the Republican Base<\/a> we think of, the disaffected economy voters, people who are angry about trade, the people who are just dealing with sort of constant economic insecurity. In our world were hearing probably as republicans from a lot of College Educated<\/a> republicans and traditional\rrepublicans like jeb bush saying im not voting for trump. Then elsewhere youre having a lot of democrats say im not voting for Hillary Clinton<\/a>. Obviously if you look at these numbers i dont remember if we had this conversation on tv or not but we were debating whether or not the hidden trump vote is bigger or the hidden hillary vote is bigger. By that i mean people for trump but dont want to come out of the closet yet and embrace him because of some of the more radical and controversial things he says or the people who secretly and privately vote for hillary because they are part of the republican establishment and uncomfortable with i think polls will they have been mostly correct. The primary polls were right. Unless youre in britain. Those polls are never right. Youve seen i call them aaa voters, alienated, anxious and angry. They are all over the place. Thats how he makes it up, i\rthink. Right. But not like right, left. I spent the morning the other day with a talk radio show host in virginia who described what he calls the wussification of american male, democrat or republican. These are men who grew up expecting one kind of life, which is the life their father and grandfather had, the life they would be able to work hard and provide for their families. That life doesnt exist anymore. Those are the people flocking to trump. It doesnt matter whether their families voted democrat in the past or republican in the past, they see a world that has changed, a world they feel they have been left behind by the forces of globalization, call it what you will and thats the protest vote in america, the vote that likes what it hears in trump. If theres a bradley effect, al hunt, at least for what ive\rexperienced, its for trump. Theres so many times ive talked to groups or had people come up and nobody would admit in big groups they were voting for trump, nobody. Then they come up and whisper as they are leaving, im voting for trump, im voting for trump. I think the polls may be as hard to read here as they have been in britain over the past couple of years. Joe, they may be. If there is a bradley effect, it probably would advantage trump more than clinton. Im not quite sure i agree with you that these polls show this tight of race. A whole host of polls, Washington Post<\/a> and reuters and bloomberg and pew in the last few weeks all show a race close to double digits. Al, thats the tale of two polls. The polls weve been showing that, i know bloomberg has but weve been showing one nbc poll after another and several other polls that National Polls<\/a> show\rit very close. Washington and pew. More surprising to me is a lot of these swing state polls seem to be close. In some states thats clearly the case, but also North Carolina<\/a> is very close, nevada as you reported this morning, is very close. Ohio, pennsylvania, florida, the swing states. There havent been very many good polls in a place like pennsylvania. I think if you take the totality of the polls she has an advantage today. Thats not an advantage that is very commanding and also not an advantage that has anything to do with her, it has to do with trump. Maybe there will be, as you call it, the bradley effect back to los angeles and silent voters. We didnt see that much in the primary, maybe they will in the general. I think theres not much evidence of that yet. Still weve got a big show ahead this morning. Retired general Michael Flynn<\/a> on Donald Trumps<\/a> short list for\rvp. Also u. S. Senate candidate kamala harris. How Younger Voters<\/a> are feeling about the race. Later Bryan Cranston<\/a> has a lot to say about politics. Were excited about seeing him and everybody else. 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In a difficult case like this. By the way, this shooting brings a number of Law Enforcement<\/a> officers fatally shot by suspects, one in the line of duty, to 27 this year up from 16 a year ago. Lets go to dallas now where today is that memorial service. Killed in thursday nights ambush. Chris jansing is there. Chris, set the scene for us in dallas today. Obviously a city in mourning, in needs of words of comfort. Thats what they are hoping for from president obama. This will be the 11th time katy he has come to a mass shooting. They want him to give some idea how you move forward after a horror like thursday night. He will do that. In fact, im told after huddling with his top advisers, hes largely writing this speech himself as he did after charleston. We saw him do it for the\rcommemoration in selma. But hes also not doing to avoid the politics. Hes going to talk about Race Relations<\/a> in america, the need for forming relationship between communities. In fact, we heard that a little bit yesterday after a meeting with Police Officers<\/a>, Vice President<\/a> joe biden. Here is a little of that. Whats not happening in the 90s, you dont have Police Officers<\/a> out of the car, knowing who runs the grocery store, showing up at boys and girls club, theres much less interaction. What happens is, that Woman Police Officer<\/a> sitting in a squad car they dont know shes a mother of three kids, coaches basketball and a good person. Conversely the kid around the corner crossing the street with a hoodie, they dont know this kid may be a poet instead of a gang banger. We heard the president s powerful oratory in these situations before. I remember after sandy hook, that memorial service, but theres a huge frustration by the part of the president and his top aides. So little has changed. I think that synthesized so powerfully in the press conference at Parkland Hospital<\/a> where one of the trauma surgeons, an africanamerican, said hes seen these white Police Officers<\/a> brought in. He said, i respect them and im going to treat them to the best of my ability, but he acknowledged, i think, so honestly, that hes also a little bit afraid. I talked to some africanamerican leaders in this community yesterday and they said its so important for somebody who is not just this kid by a 47yearold trauma surgeon to say that, to say there is this fear. In the end he says the killing, it has to stop. That powerful message that the president will have to address today, katty. Im sure well hear more on that from him. Nbcs chris jansing. Thanks so much. The search for officers use of force, Interesting Data<\/a> in recent days including this analysis from a harvard economics professor on the New York Times<\/a> upshot blog. He noted fbi statistic shows 31. 8 of people shot by police are shot by africanamerican. Similar percentage, 28. 9 of arrestees are africanamerican. The bias comes in with the percentage of africanamerican people in the population. The arrests and shootings being close to equal indicates there isnt added bias when it comes to Police Shootings<\/a>. As for the incidence of Police Shootings<\/a>, another study could find no racial bias. The study focused on more than 1300 shootings, fatal and nonfatal in 10 Police Departments<\/a>, texas, florida, and california. The New York Times<\/a> reports, quote, in shootings in these 10\rcities involving officers, officers were more likely to fire their weapon without having first been attacked when the suspects were white of. The study conducted, youngest received tenure at harvard, called it the most surprising result of his career. However, in other encounters according to the same study plaques were measurably more likely to have force used against them than white, 17 more likely to have police put their hands on them, 18 more likely to be pushed into a wall p 16 more likely to be handcuffed, 19 drawing a weapon, 18 push to a ground, 24 more likely to have a weapon pointed at them or 25 more likely to have pupper spray or baton on them. This is the second New York Times<\/a> article since dallas that shows when it comes to actual\rshootings there is not the bias i suspect there has been if you look at the data. Gene robinson, you look at every other area, though, there obviously is clear bias. These numbers surprise me. Its a study id love to see replicated. Id love to see some data because frankly a lot of people find it hard to believe. I find it hard to comport with the reality that we see. If you look qualitatively at the incidents weve seen over the last few years, its difficult to find parallel situations in which white suspects have been killed. Like walter scott running away from the Police Officer<\/a> in charleston or even, you know, what weve seen in the last\rcouple of weeks. Eugene, is it possible that those incidents are happening, a white suspect runs away, gets shot by police, and it didnt come to public attention in the way that it does when a black suspect is running away or do you think its just not happening . Look at what happened at the michigan courthouse. So here is a suspect, shoots two bailiffs in a courthouse, right. So the media, its a huge story. Everybody thinking its a big deal and then turns out to be a white suspect and kind of recedes. One of the issues, first of all, i got a headache reading it. I had trouble following it. One of the problems with studies like that is it takes our eye off the ball. We refer to studies instead of the reality. The reality is that Police Departments<\/a> in major cities across this country have been forced to be urban replicas of the marine corps. Everything is thrown on them, everything thrown on the police department. Every societal change that breaks down, let the cops take care of it. The other aspect is, reality, real world aspect is, gene has a son, i have three sons. I never had to tell my sons 14, 15 about to get their drivers license, remember, keep both hands on the wheel when you get pulled over, act respectfully, i never had to do that. I had to do that. I have a friend who has one black son and one white son. When his white son goes out for the evening he knows autos going to come home. When his black son goes out for the evening, he doesnt know hes going to come home. Front page of new york\rtimes, im sure a lot of people will be looking at it and talking about it today. Well be back in just a moment. I understand the anger and the frustration and distrust of Law Enforcement<\/a>, but they are not the problem. The problem is the lack of open discussions about the impact of Race Relations<\/a> in this country. I think about it every day, that i was unable to save those cops when they came here that night. It weighs on my mind constantly. This killing, it has to stop. In a world held back by compromise, businesses need the agility to do one thing another. Only at t has the network, people, and partners to help companies be. Local global. Open secure. Because no one knows like at t. You can fly across welcome town in minutes16, or across the globe in under an hour. Whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites provide earth with unlimited clean power. In less than a century, boeing took the world from seaplanes\rto space planes, across the universe and beyond. And if you thought that was amazing, you just wait. 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Staggering, 30 of voters 18 to 30 had an unfavorable view of Hillary Clinton<\/a>. Genforw. That includes 68 of young white voters, 42 of hispanic voters and 38 of asianamerican voters. Clinton gets 38 of youth vote 2. 2 prefer somebody else, 17 say donald trump and 16 say they wont vote. You look at those numbers, boy, julie, it is none of the above, isnt it . It really is. That is what was most striking to me in this poll. You have really dismal numbers for trump. You have soso numbers for clinton. Theres a lot of frustration with this election and two major party developments. Calling some of the voters we\rpolled, you hear that over and over again. They are frustrated with the system. They do not see their choices as being choices that represent them and they really feel like there should be a third party option. Someone else who could step in and represent young voters. For a lot of them, they thought Bernie Sanders<\/a>. He obviously isnt in the race anymore. What well have to see is whether his endorsement of clinton ends up influencing voters and moving them to his side. What is it, julie, specifically they dont like about Hillary Clinton<\/a>. What do they tell you . One of the bigs things and this wont come as a big surprise, they dont find her honest an trustworthy. They dont find her straightforward. They believe shes part of the staple establishment political system they dont feel represents their interest right now. She can take away from this good news, which is they just believe donald trump is so outside of the mainstream of their lives that they could never vote for him but shes really struggling\rstill to give young voters a pro active reason to come out and support her. Thats not about opposing donald trump. I wonder if you heard any alarm from democratic leaders. It is so hard to mobilize young voters. Obama did that in 08. It looks like hillary now risks pushing them out of that coalition. Absolutely. You were talking earlier about both trump and clinton needing to put together coalitions of voters to put them over the top. Young voters were so crucial to obamas coalition. He won 66 of young voters in 2008, 60 in 2012. I remember going out to places Like University<\/a> of wisconsin where the Obama Campaign<\/a> would literally be driving around campus in golf carts getting young people to go early vote, to sign up to register to vote. Its an enormous effort but you have to have some buy in from young people at the start. They need to believe in your candidate. They need to at least believe your candidate is someone that represents their interests. Democrats are worried. If hillary cant put together at least a coalition that looks somewhat similar to obamas coalition with young people, shes going to need to try to make up that margin elsewhere. Al hunt. Its a fascinating poll. As you suggest, the key here is whether she can get them to vote. They are not going to vote for trump. Can Bernie Sanders<\/a> help . If she picked an Elizabeth Warren<\/a>, would that have any sense of what might help . Shes not going to suddenly convince people tomorrow, im honest. A hard time totally flipping this impression with her. Thats why todays event with bernard is going to be so interesting. Its not just the idea of him standing next to her, its what he says about her. How does he vouch for her . What does he say about what young people should do specifically . Does he make a very direct case to them to come out and vote for her. Someone like Elizabeth Warren<\/a> could play that role going forward. Young people need a reason to\rcome out and support her. Right now Hillary Clinton<\/a> alone isnt giving them that reason. Hillary pace, thanks so much. You look at the honest trustworthy numbers she was talking about. Again, i go back to abc news poll, weve been surprised in the study New York Times<\/a>, but you look at the poll talked about earlier, james comey, 56 of americans disagree that he wasnt he didnt indict Hillary Clinton<\/a>, he didnt indict the democratic nominee. 66 , only 35 grow with that decision. For hillary apologists say, not a problem. This email thing, one more if youre in this mode of thinking politicians have not done you any favor over the last eight years and that politics is broken and somehow\rdysfunctional, you are craving somebody, i think, who is trustworthy and you can rely on. Neither candidate is giving you that, neither donald trump or Hillary Clinton<\/a>. I spent much of june talking to young women voters who dont particularly like Hillary Clinton<\/a>. Another thing they said to me, we feel the woman president would be new but Hillary Clinton<\/a> for us feels old. Not just that she feels old in terms of age, she feels like old news. Theres nothing fresh about her. I think for a lot of people, its going to be an election of voting against the other candidate, thinking that, you know, i dont like this candidate at all but the other candidate is worse. You hear republicans say that about Hillary Clinton<\/a>. You hear democrats say that pout donald trump. Thats where we are. A country of 300 million people. This is the best we can do. How many politicians on both sides, republicans and democrats, president ial wannabes sit and look at both these\rcandidates and say, i could beat them. Id say every one of them. Im actually hearing from democrats, oh, my gosh, i wish i had a chance at donald trump. I wonder what joe biden says in private moments. Jeb so much as said it when i talked to him yesterday. Mike is laughing. They are all saying that. Yes. Well just say that. They are all saying that the answer is all of them. 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Now he will stand down as Prime Minister<\/a> tomorrow. While Prime Minister<\/a> cameron isnt done with his job quite yet, it seems hes immediately at the moment relaxed after speaking yesterday. Camerons lapel microphone picked up singing a little tune to himself as hes entering 10 downing street. Thank you very much. We actually got our hands on closed circuit footage from inside 10 downing streets moments after the Prime Minister<\/a> went in. Take a look. You want more more more then jump for my love jump in feel my touch \r if you want to take my kisses in the night baby jump for my love ill take you down ill take you down where no ones ever gone before [ laughter ] he can move. Im not sure David Cameron<\/a> has quite the hips or teresa may. Maybe not. He is happy hes getting out right now. I think the prospect of taking us through the next three months when there was a fight in the leadership and all the confusion around brexit, listen, i was in london over the weekend. I had dinner with a couple of economists who said to me we are headed to pound parity with the dollar. We are going to recession. We have political chaos and it was all selfinflicted. Why did teresa may want this job . Especially when they voted youve been in the party as long as she has, this is what you want. You want to be leader, right . Just like United States<\/a>. Here you think things are bad for the democrats look at the republicans. You look at whats happening with the labor party, just chaos. They have a leader that nobody, nobody seems to want. And who everybody blames for not having mounted a Good Enough Campaign<\/a> to allow the remain vote to win. Al hunt chaos on both sides of the atlantic. Just sheer chaos. Yeah, you know how we talk about how bad our system is, how chaotic it is. You not only look at britain but with a few exceptions perhaps germany. Most other places, western democracies if anything are doing worse. Right wing pressures are great in france. Italy is always in some state of disarray. Our politics are troubling. I agree with what was said earlier. Joe biden, john kasich will be running away with this case,\r64, 72 style. Lets keep things in perspective, were not as bad as other places. You admire the transition as opposed to the way we do. Youre out. Hes packing his bags, out on wednesday. They dont come back. They are gone. They do not come back. Nor do their family members. Whats your name is churchill. Unless you win a war and save civilization. Then you get a second shot. Donald trump says hes a law and order candidate and weighs in on his opponent. Washington post chris cilli a cillizza he tells him Hillary Clinton<\/a> is overrated in the brains department. Retired general Michael Flynn<\/a> is our guest. Washington post robert costa with a latest report of veepstakes and everything thats\rhappening. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. 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But seriously, a skom might be t scam might be too provocative of a word. Running an election, who to be afraid of. Hes not been specific about how hes going to fix the things that are broken. Hes been quite articulate saying things are broke. Youre the guy saying you were going to fix them. So at some point over the long haul, when conservatives get back in the game and win the presidency, we need to not say how bad things are but offer a compelling path in a complete different direction. Im confident well do that, but its not going to happen in this president ial election. He loses in a landslide, will any of you feel vindicated or satisfied. Sad. If he wins will you feel happy . Ill be worried. No good outcome for you. No. Thats why i cant vote for either candidate. This is a decision thats painful for me. I love my country like everyone else does. I see is languishing in a time\rwe should lead the world. Do you think your parents are going to vote for anybody . I dont know. Im not really asking them. You dont want to know . Some things parents need to be doing their thing. I dont want to know because i dont want to say. Oh, my gosh. Welcome back to morning joe. Tuesday july 12th. Mika, of course, in the south of france, or whatever. Sad or worried. Donald trump. Sad or worried. Donald trump wins hes worried, Hillary Clinton<\/a> hes sad. Pick one. Youre one of these that say you can choose one or the other. Choose one or the other. He wanted to be president of the United States<\/a>. If youre president of the United States<\/a>, right, you have to decide youre iran negotiators come to you and say, here, this the best we can do. Either we turn it down and go to war, in which case youll be sad. Or we accept it and they might\rin 10 years, in which case youll be worried. You have to choose. What if you had to choose what if you had two names on the ballot and you were russian and its 1925 and your choices were lenin or stalin. Would you say the same thing. Its not a linear choice. You can write in, go a third way. Were not quite tolen lenin stalin. There are people deeply offended by donald trump being president of the United States<\/a> and people deeply offended with hillary being president of the United States<\/a>. Im with gene, i think you have to choose. I havent really thought of it the way you thought of it. If youre running for president you have difficult choices. This is not the most difficult choice in history. There are choices. So youre just going to let\reverybody else decide. You think this is really important. Hed rather be sad than worried. Hed rather be sad than worried. Hes chosen. Hes not going to be on tv hes jeb bush. Hes not going to get on tv and say ill vote for Hillary Clinton<\/a> but hes going to get in that booth and do it. I think there are a lot of people who have given money to jeb bush the last year and a half that voted for Hillary Clinton<\/a>. You think that . Because they told me. I think thats a pretty educated guess right there. We need to get nicole back and grill her on what he said in private and whether he gave a hint. I grilled nicole on that and he didnt say. We have on set msnbc contributor Mike Barnicle<\/a> and bbc anchor katty kay, eugene washington. Bring in also from washington msnbc political contributor of\rthe fix, chris sliver, a. And msnbc political analyst robert costa. Lets begin in the news with katty. Its still all revolving around dallas. Last night hundreds turned out to remember five officers killed in the ambush on dallas. Funerals set for tomorrow and thursday. Today president obama will speak at an Interfaith Memorial Service<\/a> in dallas. President george bush will speak there as well. With recent unrest in the country as a backdrop donald trump in virginia. He delivered a policy speech expanded options for Veterans Health<\/a> care. Issues of inner city and policing played heavily in the speech as trump presented himself as the law and order candidate. The police are needed the most where crime is the highest. Politicians and activists who seek to remove police or policing from a community are hurting the poorest and most\rvulnerable americans. Its time for our hostility against our police and against all members of Law Enforcement<\/a> to end, and end immediately right now. We must maintain law and order at the highest level, or we will cease to have a country 100 . We will cease to have a country. I am the law and order candidate. Not only am i the law and order candidate, but im also the candidate of compassion. Believe it. Mike barnicle, law and order, 68 and 72, it worked pretty well. Its a pretty complicated issue and donald trump didnt address the complexity of the issue yesterday in the speech. He is the law and order candidate. But theres an inference in the\rway he says it and theres an inference in his rallies that he wants lets choose order first over law and you cant do both. The issue is so incredibly complex, consult really, socially, going to require more money than we spend now to reduce the isolation you find in inner cities. Its going to require toning down the rhetoric among politicians, lower the flame, bunson burner flame. Realize the police are asked to do jobs in this sie chooses to. They are asked to confront every social, cultural flaw that has occurred in the last 15 to 20 years. You see the police out there, we talked about it earlier last hour, its as if they are the marine corps charging the beaches. The schools are broken, no hospitals, no Shopping Centers<\/a> in inner cities. You go do it. You go fix it. Chris cillizza, speaking of law and following the law, its stunning Washington Post<\/a> abc\rnews poll came out about Hillary Clinton<\/a>, Donald Trumps<\/a> opponent. I think most of us around the table are pretty staggered by the 21 gap between those who thought Hillary Clinton<\/a> should have been indicted and those who did not. 56 disprove of comey not indicting Hillary Clinton<\/a>. Only 35 approved. Like us, were you surprised by the 21 gap . A little bit. That it was that big a gap. Joe, look. Theres been majorities of people who say they dont trust her. They dont think shes given the full story on the emails. They dont think shes telling the whole truth. We talked about this before, im going to continue to say it. Hillary clinton is a very beatable, general election candidate. I dont know if shes beatable by donald trump. Were showing driving the car, chris, were showing nbc News Survey Monkey<\/a> poll similar numbers 56 thought she should\rhave been indicted, 41 agreed with comey. Look, i think youre going to get a majority of people who say they disagree with the decision not to indict. We know you get a majority of people if they say do you think shes telling the full story. Most people say no. Frf how can you make an election about Hillary Clinton<\/a>, onone of the most highprofile divisive figures, youd be hard pressed to do it. I talked to donald trump, asked him about it. Youve got it all wrong. Im defending myself, doing what i need to do. He reminded me i was wrong about\rhim in the primary, which i was. I just think it is a mistake to make this race a referendum on donald trump. The way republicans win this, you make it a referendum on Hillary Clinton<\/a>. And you look, bob costa, donald trump actually been trying to do that for quite some time. You look at the numbers, again, Hillary Clinton<\/a>s negative extraordinarily high, Donald Trumps<\/a> extraordinarily high. What can you tell us what nicole touched on before about the change of tone in dallas, ensemble a few days in dallas, nicole noticed what others have noticed and that tends to be a toning down of rhetoric. You see it, not tweeting as much about the issues. Nicole revealing jeb bush indicative of how many people in the party feel about donald trump. He seems to have acknowledged a lot of Party Leaders<\/a> are worried\rabout him and Vice President<\/a> ial pick is going to send a signal good or bad about where hes going on his campaign. Weve had a bit on the polls, lets get the latest. Theres quite a lot out recently. Donald trump gaining back some in his losses to Hillary Clinton<\/a>. Survey monkey tracking with clinton ahead 47 to 44 . Clinton clinging to a narrow lead in a fourway matchup, 40 to 38, gary johnson 11 , jill stein 6 . In nevada shows clinton with fourpoint edge over trump but thats inside the margin of error, 45 to 44 . Gary johnsons at 5 . A brandnew poll of College Educated<\/a> voters shows clinton with a 22point lead, 54 to 32 in a Bloomberg Politics<\/a> purple slice poll. Barack obama, by the way, won that group by two points back in\r2012 when it represented 47 of the electorate. Among white voters with just a College Degree<\/a>, clinton has 11 point lead. No democratic candidate has won that bloc since 1952, joe. Bob costa, where is trump making up those numbers . If you look today, rnc struggling, nationwide, the question is where do the voters come from for trump. You talk to his campaign and advisers, they believe at this point they have to rouse these working class voters in the rust belt. Can they go into a place like ohio, pennsylvania, even virginia and start going to the midwest as well and winning states that have seen a lot of industrial hurt and economic hurt. Its not going to be easy, joe. The governor of indiana rumor to be Vice President<\/a> ial pick. A lot in the rust belt very tight right now. Gene, weve just got numbers going every direction. Youve got groups that traditionally support republicans that are bringing democratic. Youve got trump getting pounded among women, getting pounded among hispanics, getting pounded, of course, among blacks. Yet a lot of polls are showing it to be a tight race. Yeah. I mean, look, theres a couple of mega theories you can have about this election. One is that theres some sort of major realignment going on here that democratic and Republican Party<\/a> coalitions are shifting around. Is it about trade, do you think . Trade is a huge issue. Thats an issue that Neither Party<\/a> is adequately addressing according to americans. You know, thats clear. Immigration is a big issue. That animated a lot of trump support. However, it could be a realignment, it could be just a scrambling due to the fact that we have two unusual candidates, very unusual candidates, who have such high negatives and people are just trying to figure out what to do. I dont think we know the answer to that. Katty, in britain, so many experts, so many elites didnt see it coming because a lot of it did come down to immigration. Yeah. I think the tectonic plates of our economy have shifted, right, in the last 20 years, with gobblization and its trade and immigration, and its high deficits. I dont think the established classes have sufficiently addressed the concerns of those people who have been left behind by those changes. Right. They are out of touch with them because they sit in london or sit in washington and they dont know whats happening in the north of england and dont necessarily know whats happening in the rust belt. They dont feel it. They dont feel it. They havent addressed it from a policy standpoint and in its coming back to bite them in both sides of the atlantic theres a very similar thing that is coming back to bite them. Chris cillizza in your Washington Post<\/a> piece, you talk about what donald trump says about Hillary Clinton<\/a> and you write in part, quote, shes highly overrated in the brains department. Trump also said that, by the way, of jeb bush. Shes really bad at reacting under pressure. Of himself, trump said, i was always a good athlete, adding under pressure some good athletes become bad athletes, revving to clinton. Trump also casting clinton track record as inability to handle pressures of spotlight. Quote, whether it was a war, emails, she got worse and worse, he said. Chris, talk about your fascinating interview with donald trump. Well, joe, im sure youve had this, too, it was 9 30 in the morning. My cell phone rang, it was 212. I assumed it was msnbc, honestly. I picked it up, it was chris hayes, its donald trump. I tried to ask him as many questions asik. As anyone who has seen him on television, he just talks and you try to steer the conversation. Yeah, you know, he mostly wanted to call to say that the stuff about last week where the speech he gave, which i was very critical of, where he sort of veered away from talking about Hillary Clinton<\/a>, talk about the star of david, Saddam Hussein<\/a> was so good at killing terrorists. He said he had talked about her enough and the crowd gets, i dont want to say board, but his crowds dont just want to hear about hillarys emails, which is fascinating. He went on a tangent talking about her and how shes lacking in the brains department. I always say, what would happen if jeb bush said some of the things donald trump said. If jeb bush said shes overrated in the brains department, i mean, you know, it would be a\rhuge story. With trump its just sort of a ho hum. One thing i want to make a point on the polls. Whats fascinating with him coming back, even when he dropped, she never gained. I think thats important. Her number never moved up. Maybe jill stein got some, gary johnson got some, went to undecided. Theres this bedrock people who are going to be for her and Bedrock Group<\/a> of people who are going to be against her. He needs to unite all the people who want to be against her behind him. I dont know if he can do that or not, as bob costa mentioned earlier. I think he thinks picking a vp like a pence would help do that. Okay. Lets go back in history. The wall street journal got its hands on Donald Trumps<\/a> syndicated radio feature trumped which aired 2004 to 2008 including this bite which trump gave praise to Hillary Clinton<\/a>. The candidates were jockeying a little bit talking about a dream ticket. For his part obama said autos just focused on winning the nomination, although at least one member of his team said clbt would make a good Vice President<\/a>. I know her and shed make a good Vice President<\/a> or good president. Another audio. Another bit of video coming back to bite donald trump. Bob costa, all the republicans listening to that thinking your republican nominee for president. Go to cleveland with that feather in your hat, right . But it comes back to this core point about trump that hes not running as the nominee of the conservative party, hes running as the nominee of the Republican Party<\/a>. Nonideological candidate. He has friendships and associations across party lines. This has really jarred leaders in washington. They dont know what to make of it. I think katty kays point about britain is provocative. You think of David Cameron<\/a>\rleaving now. Came in as modernizer, change the party, but he was close to the Business Community<\/a> in london. Its a lot like the Republican Party<\/a> in the United States<\/a>, paul ryan and others. They are trying to modernize the party but still remain the pro Business Party<\/a> and that allows someone who likes Hillary Clinton<\/a>, the celebrity, connecting on trade and populism to waltz in and take control. Gene, Chris Cillizza<\/a> just said the jeb bush test, would jeb bush survive . No, he wouldnt. Would any candidate in the Republican Party<\/a> survive giving to the democratic nominee three times, saying she would ab great president. Or likewise would anybody in the Democratic Party<\/a> survive if they had said that in 2008 about a republican . Yeah, a republican . No, theres no way. Its crazy. It simply wouldnt happen. But as we know, the normal rules of politics certainly not all of them apply to donald trump. None of them apply to donald trump. None of us really seriously believe this is going to have much impact with his base. Exactly. Its going to kind of roll off. To one other of Chris Cillizza<\/a>s points. I think in the sense Hillary Clinton<\/a>s numbers didnt go up when Donald Trumps<\/a> wen down, so i think today is critical for her, really, as we see her and Bernie Sanders<\/a> together. Presumably we have an endorsement. How full throated is it and what impact does it have on Bernie Sanders<\/a> people who are not yet enthusiastic. Chris cillizza, is that whats holding Hillary Clinton<\/a> back . Is that why shes staying where she is, because of the bernie supporters . Its a piece, i think. I do think, to genes point, i do think youre going to see a pretty full throated endorsement. I think most of those people will get behind her because they are democrats, number one, mostly, and because donald trump is the republican nominee. Right . In a binary choice if you think a is disqualified from president , youre picking b. I think there is a hard ceiling for her. One of the things always in politics has always been to be in a president ial floor, she has a high floor in a relatively low ceiling. Shes going to get 47 no matter who she runs against but can she gets 51 agast someone. Again, i think donald trump, just based on who he is, what he has said, the fractiousness in the Republican Party<\/a> is uniquely unsuited to run a candidacy against Hillary Clinton<\/a>. The way you beat Hillary Clinton<\/a> is to make the race 100 about Hillary Clinton<\/a>. Shine the light on emails, the stuff from the 90s, the things she said, the fact people dont trust her. You make that the campaign. You dont make it about tweeting the star of david, defending Saddam Hussein<\/a>, banning muslims. You dont make it about you and\ri dont know hes p camable of doing that. Someone is going to get another call from a 212 area code. Thank you so much, robert costa. Well see you in cleveland. Sounds good. Still ahead on morning joe, the big ruling out of virginia about delegates and how it could affect donald trump at the convention. Hallie jackson joins us live from cleveland and Lieutenant General<\/a> Michael Flynn<\/a> reportedly vetted by donald trump for Vice President<\/a>. 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Republican delegate brought the case to the courts earlier this month arguing he should be able to vote his conscious. Its unclear its going to have any impact on the convention or trumps presumptive nomination as it has no direct bearing on\rparty rules. The court left that up to the party how they run their own conventions. That ruling comes a week ago. Nbc correspondent hallie jackson. Hallie, get us up to date. Reporter hi, guys, lets talk about a couple of things. Lets start with that ruling, virginia delegate. Hes framing it as a victory. As a practical matter this will only apply to a small number of virginia delegates, or a portion of them, which is why youre seeing Republican National<\/a> committee, trump, too, coming out framing this as a victory for them. Everyone trying to claim a little success coming out of this. In fact, i just got a phone call from a contact in the campaign, a source saying, listen, this is not going to change anything, this idea of unity in the gop is overblown. That said, theres push back on that. Youve got ben sasse, senator from nebraska who has been a leader of never trump, coming out with media post that and to urge delegates to fight for the\rconservative principles they believe in, many saw it as a veiled reference he would back a clause this week to try to get trump off the ticket. It is a very unlikely possibility. And as trump folks will point out, they have no candidate, nobody to put forward. Its incredibly unlikely anything will come out of it if theres success out of it but theres not to say theres a movement or among some theres a perception they want trump out of here. Here in cleveland were looking ahead not just to the rules mmittee fight, discussions on the platform but also to next week when trumps Vice President<\/a> , his running mate will speak. Who will it be . Weve had audition, Chris Christie<\/a> yesterday, mike pence of indiana will be announcing trump at his rally. Hes down to the final four. Hes got a short list. He said he would decide and announce by the end of the week. Nbcs hallie jackson, thank you so much. Speaking of possible vice\rpresident ial contenders, retired general Michael Flynn<\/a>, served as director of defense and Intelligence Agency<\/a> from 2012 to 2014. Hes got a new book out called the field of fight, how we can win the global war against radical islam and its allies. It is out today. General, a very busy big week for you because of this book. Other things, timing, swirling around as well. A year ago when i sat down with the publishers at mcmillan, i picked this date because i wanted the book cocoa out before both conventions, not having any idea i had not met mr. Trump at that point in time. Its an Important Message<\/a> in this book, something i deeply believe. Were going to get to that message in a min. Obviously a lot of people looking at you as a possible Vice President<\/a> ial pick for donald trump. Would you accept if he asked you\rand what do you think the biggest challenge would be for trump and your self if you guys got elected . First of all, he an unbelievable honor. I never thought in my wildest imagination as a kid growing up in the state of rhode island, a small town, that i would be in this place today. I think, i believe strongly, that our economy is the greatest threat to our country and frankly to the world right now based on just the things that are happening, and i firmly believe that. There are other major threats, National Security<\/a> threats we face. I wrote about one of those. I deeply believed it in the book. There are other things happening around the world. Russia and china just signed a big deal over in the shanghai cooperation organization. These are things that are happening that nobody is paying attention to and i think we have to Pay Attention<\/a> to those things. They are going to affect the way\rour country goes. And i think the direction of the country right now is not going in the right direction. If i could, in your last segment, mr. Robinson, he made a great point about this, this sort of underlying shift thats going on in this country right now, its both economic, jobs, but also a demographic shift. I think mr. Trump would figure on is this business about illegal immigration. We have to understand what is happening in this country. So im a guy that as i have said, im from i grew up in a democratic family but i believe that the Democratic Party<\/a> is nowhere near to what i learned about when i was a kid growing up. Its not close to that, joe. We have a big shift going on in this country and will continue. I personally believe that a guy like donald trump has put his finger on it. And you know, what that the bubble that exists around\rwashington, d. C. , and maybe wall street and places like hollywood, they cant see outside of that bubble the rest of the country. Whats in between. Right. Gene, since we had a good point, well give you the next question. You mentioned the u. S. Economy. Youve said thats the biggest threat. But in fact, the u. S. Economy is doing better than anybody elses economy and the world thats interconnected. Do you have a solution . Do you have policy youd like to propose that would get the economy going. I dont have anything sitting right here today in 30 seconds, but i will tell you that we have to understand that theres two things that drive i want it to continue to drive the world for a long time. Maybe 100 or 200 years if we can make this country last that long. The u. S. Dollar is the currency of choice for the planet and the english language is the language of choice for global commerce. Those are critical. We have to understand that all the things that are happening, particularly with china and the chinese economy and what they are looking at, these are big tectonic shifts, as you implied in the last segment there, about the shifts, these undercurrents going on in this country. We have to understand theres something happening. Ive studied these things as an Intelligence Officer<\/a> for a long time, particularly over the last 10 years as ive looked at the threats we face around the world. Have you had conversations with donald trump that gave you confidence he could pass that bar. Jeb bush didnt think he met that threshold as command are in chief. Do you as someone from the military think hes qualified as commander in chief. First of all, the people in that establishment, they need to check their egos. They need to check their egos. In trumps case i met with donald trump almost a year ago,\rthe latter part of last summer. I found him to be an incredible listener. What i look for is the ability to ask really tough, smart questions. The conversation we had, which was basically about the world, whats going on around the world, i think it was to give him a sense that his framework, his frame of mind was in the place where he just needed some reinforcement, i think, the first time i met him. I wanted to know, are you serious. To me i walked away from the conversation, this is a guy very serious. This is a guy that talks about winning. He obviously made it through the crucible over the last year. I think that i do honestly believe that we need a new direction in this country and i think the american public, for the most part, are out there and thats what they want. Mike barnicle. Weve been at war for 15 years. Persistent conflict. We cant afford to keep doing\rit. The american military, members of the military and their families have paid a shattering price in terms of deployment after redeployment. How do we combat an ideology today with all sorts of freelance operatives in many states around the world, nonstate actors. I think one of the things i address in the book, its a big part of it, is the ideology, discrediting the ideology. As you well know, as all of us sitting here know, we discredited the ideology of communism. It took us 40 years to do that. We discredited the idea of naziism. It took us a long time but also took quite a bit of time, three, three and a half years in combat. We cannot withstand or sustain more of this persistent conflict. We have got to get what i call for in this book is a sort of a new 21st century alliance. Part of that alliance are muslim\rleaders around the world, and there are some specific ones i call out in the book, that we have to get them to stand up and be counted, because this islamic ideology is a political ideology built on a religion. Its a political ideology built on a religion. How do you get saudi arabia to jump in with us. We have to place a different set of demands on the leaders of the arab world, muslim world. There has to be what i would call reciprocity. You want something from us, were going to ask you to do something, you know, for us as well. Are they not doing that now . I dont think so. I dont think we have that kind of give and take right now. And i think that in fact, i know we need to do more demanding. This is not the Foreign Policy<\/a> we have. This is tough diplomacy we need. West will not discredit radical ideology of isis, will\rthey . Its up to muslims . I think we have to help lead that effort, joe, because its a struggle for them. Its a struggle for them. These countries know, they know they are failing. They know its going to come back to bite them in the rear end. They are having the dammedest time in their country to do this. They have to come together i have sort of called it a natolike muslim alliance. The United States<\/a> has to be part of that. My recommendations are not a lot about military stuff. Theres always a military component but thats a lower case m. Its tough diplomacy, strong use of our information capabilities and definitely our economic strength. But that economic strength is not like it used to be and we have to make sure we understand that. Thank you so much, general, we greatly appreciate it. Its called field of fight out today. Are you going to take a copy to donald trump. I gave him one. Read it. Read it. All right. We will read it. Thank you, sir. Thank you. So great to have you. Thanks for having me on. Still ahead this morning fivetime Award Winning<\/a> actor Bryan Cranston<\/a> played several historic figures on the screen. He says theres another role he would like to take on today. Played lyndon johnson, real life historical figures. Anybody youre thinking about maybe you would like to play . Id like to play donald trump at some point. Really . Hes huge. 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Robert writes in part, quote, for an atrisk republican senator this fall, to back away from trump is, by extension, to snub his millions of diehard loyalists. The one group of party voters that is sure to show up on november 8th. But to go all in for trump is to take leave of your republican bona fides and embrace life as a trump mini me. A gamble that not a single republican senator up for reelection this fall appears to have a stomach for. It is absolutely a horrid position to be in. I remember the first time i ran, i had a poor guy running away from bill clinton and it never works. You run away from the guy or the woman on the top of the ticket and you always get pounded. You know, joe, its historically the case if youre a vulnerable congressman or senator you do like to grab onto president ial coattails. Lou for if nothing else infrastructure support. We see nothing of that happen here. We dont know trump is going to have a negative determinative effect on the down ballot situation. We do know, though, a couple of things first. No one believes hell have a positive effect. Certainly no Office Seeker<\/a> who is a republican is basically saying im with trump, certainly not happening. Certainly not on the level. Very, very red districts will do that. But vulnerable senators, and there are a number of those, maybe nine or so and six in particular, they are not doing it. The second thing that we know is that at minimum trump is going to cause a day to day aggravation for senators who are in a bubble like kelly ayotte of New Hampshire<\/a> who has done i support but not endorse trump, a\rtortured formulation a lot of people adhered to in order to hang onto the trump base but not subscribing to everything he says. It means every time trump says something outrageous they are required to differentiate themselves of the following question is if youre so different from him, why are you supporting him . If you are supporting him, doesnt that mean youre more about your party than your country. Nicole, it is impossible for a party to do well if the person at the top of the ticket loses by four, five, six, seven points, isnt it . Absolutely. I think thats why i wonder if he found any evidence that the donor class operationlized this idea of supporting republicans running in senate races and house races or even jeb bush position saying im going to vote down ticket. It seems like a thing people can say but seems very difficult to operationalize. What you do see, nicole, there are groups like american\rcrossroads that ran antiobama ads in 2008 and will do that in 2016. They are understood they will be in support of down ballot candidates, essentially wash their hands of trump and there will be no mention of donald trump in the ads. Will they run against him . Attack him as a man, attack the wall. No, i havent seen that yet. Priebus, the rnc chair is essentially begging for the sake of party unity for no one to do that. What you describe as the paul ryan commander, right, how you deal with donald trump. The only republican senator that has come out, im not going to support him. Do you think more will follow kirk in illinois . I dont. Do you see more coming out . Is there something trump could do or say that could trigger i asked kelly ayotte, do you see a series of circumstances that would cause you all together to renounce, wash your hands of donald trump . She said no. I think they feel like they simply have to heed in New Hampshire<\/a> theres a strong constituent base that went for trump. He won the primary in double digits. Mark kirk in an ambiguous situation, ambiguously blue state. No republican senator has held that state for two terms since percy in 1995. How is kirk doing . Right now his own internal polls show him down by three. He is being outfunded at this point. The concern, i think, for a lot of these people is that no matter what kirk does, no matter what ayotte does, trump will so disturb people, they will pull the lever. No republican will differentiate themselves will be vulnerable to that. With normal candidates at the top of the ticket you find senatorial, congressional saying, okay, not my cup of tea but ill ride the coattails, get out the vote operation but there\rseems to be no mechanical get out the vote on behalf of trump right now. How is that going to impact these people . Greatly. In elections where were expecting a photo finish. Again, one of the people i focu was kelly. He is running against the governor there and the expectation is it will be a margin of error there. What could make the difference could be get out the vote efforts and historically a republican candidate has to bring in volunteers. Theres no evidence right now that thats realitiy really hap with trump. It has been a ghost town. Hillary, by contrast, has an immense anount mount of resourc that state and elsewhere. Thats this thing we know, that at minimum, the infrastructure related coat tails related to a candidate dont seem to be there at all. All right. Thank you so much. We will be reading your piece in the upcoming issue of the New York Times<\/a> magazine and look forward to seeing you in cleveland or whatever county. About seven down tips away, could be canada. Dont worry, theres a shuttle bus. Senate republicans. Everything happens on that shuttle bus. Still ahead on morning joe, well be talking kamala harris. Morning joe is right back. Irle credit card. Hold on. You only got double miles on stuff you bought from that airline . Let me show you something better. 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She voted to stay in the European Union<\/a> and has to leave the campaign to use it. Our campaign is mad. It is mad. And he was telling you why he was not going to vote in november. Talk about how jeb was and sort of the temperature there regarding the Republican Party<\/a>. Yeah, he didnt arrive at the decision to vote for neither Hillary Clinton<\/a> or donald trump easily but he is not going to move off of it. He is completely hardened in his opposition to trump. He is completely hardened in his openness. I pressed him on whether or not he would consider Hillary Clinton<\/a> as choice and just the commander in chief question and he said the way she handled her emails is equally disqualifying. What about the american peoples indictment . You have Washington Post<\/a> abc news poll. 56 of americans think comey made a mistake. Only Something Like<\/a> 35 of americans think she shouldnt have been indicted. Thats a plus 21. It was a Staggering Number<\/a> to me, not that i didnt think comey messed up i just didnt think so Many Americans<\/a> agreed with it. It will have an impact. Maybe ratings are better than we thought for the show. The numbers surprise me too. I have to say, when nicole and i were talking about jeb bush last night. You know, the i cant vote for either one absolutely drives me crazy in a man who ran for president. He wanted to be president of the United States<\/a>. They have to make decisions where they think they have two bad alternatives. They cant just say im not going to decide. He should decide. Got to make a decision. And i cant let this pass. We had when we came in the discussion on whether things were horrible, we were falling off a cliff. It was 1968. We had a discussion last week about this. I saw a lot after the horrors of dallas and baton rouge and minneapolis that showed me this weekend that we werent as divided as people thought. I saw a lot of people on the left reaching to the center. I saw a lot of people on the right doing the same. Of course there will be the loud mouths that make a lot of money by tearing us apart but this isnt 1968 is it . No. Its not 1968. These conventions wont be chicago in 1968. I was in chicago in 1968. The biggest difference i think, my perception of it is, theres no one like Robert Kennedy<\/a> standing up. Theres no one in our political\rleadership who can lower the collective flame in this country. We have seen horrendous violence, horrendous violence in dallas last week. There are also institutions that do not respond, schools that dont help kids, hospitals that arent available in too many urban areasareas, violence of institutions that dont respond are equally dangerous as the violence that occurs at the end of a pistol. And again, we dont have that unifying figure, like you said. The president , on this issue he is the man. Has struck a tone. He is hammered by people on both sides. People on the left dont think he is criticizing people enough and people on the left think he is criticizing people too much. I thought at least over the past year or two he tried to go down\rthe middle but its never enough. One thing that is different from 68 in terms of the heat of the conversation is the media landscape and that is driving up the heat on both the left and the right. Thats right. You didnt have that in 68. And i was not referring to the president of the United States<\/a>. He is the man on this. He has been tremendous on this at every point. But youre not seeing it from the candidates. No. I dont expect to either. A lot of news still on this. Last night hundreds turned out to remember the ambush on police in dallas. Funerals set for tomorrow and thursday. President obama will speak at an Interfaith Memorial Service<\/a>. He will travel with the Vice President<\/a> and the Vice President<\/a> s wife. Laura bush and george w. Bush will be there as well. Donald trump spoke yesterday in virginia. He delivered a policy speech following expanded private options for health care. Issues for policing played heavily in the speech as well as trump presented himself as the law and order candidate. The police are needed the most where crime is the highest. Politicians and activists who seek to remove police or policing from a community are hurting the poorest and most vulnerable americans. It is time for our hostility against police and against all members of Law Enforcement<\/a> to end and end immediately, right now. We must discuss as well the ongoing catastrophe of crime in our inner cities, our cities\rcities. Violent crime increased in cities across america. The New York Times<\/a> described the startling rise in murders in our major cities. Brutal drug cartels are spreading their reach into virginia and maryland. Too Many Americans<\/a> are trapped in fear, violence and poverty. Our inner cities have been left totally behind and im going to fight to make sure every citizen of this country has a safe home, a safe school and a safe community. We must maintain law and order at the highest level or we will cease to have a country 100 . We will cease to have a country. I am the law and order candidate. Not only am i the law and order\rcandidate but im also the candidate of compassion, believe it. Al hunt, we were talking about 1968 talking about echoes of 1968, the law and order candidate, Richard Nixon<\/a> and now donald trump trying to grab that. And he really inflamed a great deal of it. I havent met a lot of politicians that want to remove police from communities. There is criticism from some corners but i find very few people who want to take the police out of communities. I think if the racial tensions become more inflamed clearly donald trump is one who might take advantage of that. I think the difference between now and 68 is there was war back there, there is moral rans. Thats not to say theres not tensions today. Thats not to say that dallas and louisiana and minnesota last week dont point to a serious problem. I think the parallels from 68 are a bit off. Nicole, you take a look at the message he delivered. This seems to go to the same group of voters he was talking about. Well, and even more, i think the way he handled himself since thursday is you know, and this is the whole conundrum but this reaches a broader swath, the one that he needs. Women make up the largest sort of part of independent voters. Now, the pattern has been to do so for a few days, to stick to\rscript for a few days and then stand audiotaup comedian when h behind the podium. I think he strung together three our four very solid days. Yes. I certainly you know, he is not ranting and raving. And clinton didnt get indi t indicted. You know, just in terms of what he actually said, to compare it to 68, look at the crime rate now. It is way down, more than a third, almost a half. There is no comparison at all. Its a different time. The real one of the real tragedies of this happening in dallas is that dallas is a city\rwhere Police Reforms<\/a> were working. Yeah. David brown became police chief. It is down by twothirds of Police Shootings<\/a>. There were 23 in 2012 and there was one so far this year. Community policing, knowing your community, deescalating. Could it be scaled across the country what he is doing . What difference could it have . It is not some little city. We are not talking burlington, vermont. And they speak to it a little but about how complex it is. You have many cities where the cops cant afford to live in the cities. They live 35 miles away from the\rplaces they patrolme. You have a similar aspect in the sense that theres an isolation in inner cities. You can go blocks without finding a good grocery store. You can go blocks without finding a decent drugstore. Thats similar to 1968. And i want to clarify we all think that burlington is a real city. We love you burlington, vermont. I love burlington too. I dont know if its a real city. Okay. There is a lot of new polling in the 2016 white house race. Donald trump is gaining back some of his losses against clinton this week. Clinton ahead 47 to 44 . Clinton at 40 to 38 . Johnson climbs into the double digits at 11 and jill stein is at 6 . The new poll of College Educated<\/a> voetders show clinton with a 22 point lead, 54 to 32 in the Bloomberg Politics<\/a> purple slice poll. And among white voters clinton has an 11 point lead. No candidate has won College Degree<\/a>s since 1963. Lets take 2012 as a base. If a candidate wants to do better than last time he or she has to do well in most groups. I think trump has to do almost as well as romney did and do better among White Working Class<\/a>. These are College Educated<\/a> whites. Mitt romney carried it by 14 points and he is losing it by 11. Every time i look at one of these slices it makes some other sur vais more questionable. I dont see where trump is making up those votes. Today is the day sanders will feenlly endorse Hillary Clinton<\/a> or is it . Well have more for you. Youre watching morning joe. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. And by doing so. It changed the world. Its been a part of every new technology\rfor the last 250 years. Everything . Everything this year, Hewlett Packard<\/a> enterprise will preview the machine. And the future of technology will begin. See star trek beyond. In theatres july 22. Does your makeup remover every kissproof,ff . Cryproof, stayproof look . Neutrogena\u00ae makeup remover does. It erases 99 of your most stubborn makeup with one towelette. Need any more proof than that . Neutrogena. Welcome back. Three people are dead in michigan after a man opened fire in a courthouse as he tried to escape custody. 44yearold gordon was being brought in for a hearing yesterday at the st. Joseph facility and grabbed a gun from an officer. He shot and killed two bailiffs. Two other people were also hurt. Rick snyder called for support following this layetest inciden for violence. I ask that irch try to be supportive of Law Enforcement<\/a> in a difficult case like this. It brings a number of Law Enforcement<\/a> officers shot in the line of duty to 27 this year up\rfrom 16 a year ago. In the search for answers to the questions of race and the excessive use of force interesting and provocative data has risen including this analysis from a harvard economics professor. He noted the fbi statistics noted 31. 8 of individuals shot by police are African American<\/a> and 28. 9 are African American<\/a> of those arrested. The numbers are out of proportion and points out that the percentage of arrest and percentage of shootings isnt biassed. Another study could find no racial bias. It focused on more than 1,300\rshootings in ten Police Departments<\/a> in texas california and florida. The study was conducted by the youngest African American<\/a> to receive tenure at harvard who called it the most surprising result of his career. In other studies blacks were 17 more likely to have Police Officers<\/a> put their hands on them, 18 more likely to be pushed into a wall. 16 more likely to be handcuffed, 19 more likely to have an officer draw a weapon on them, 18 more likely to be pushed to the ground and 24 more likely to have a weapon pointed at them and 25 more likely to have pepper spray used\ron them. This is the second New York Times<\/a> article that shows when it comes to actual shootings there is not the bias that i think most of us suspect there has been if you look at the data. Gene robinson, you look at every other area, though, there obviously is clear bias. And these numbers surprise me. Its a study i would love to see replicated. I would love to see some back up. I find it hard to comport with the reality that we see. If you look qualitatively at this incidents that we have seen over the last few years, its difficult to find payrosituatio where whites have been killed like running away from the\rPolice Officer<\/a> in charleston or even like what we have seen in the last couple of weeks. So do you think is it possible that those incidents are happening . A white suspect runs away and gets shot by police and it doesnt come to public attention in the way that it does when a black suspect is running away or do you think its just not happening . Look at what happened yesterday at the michigan courthouse. Right. So here is a suspect that shoots two, you know, bailiffs in a courthouse, right . Immediately it is a huge story. Everybody is thinking this and that. It was a big deal and it turns out to be a white suspect. It kind of recedes. First of all i got a headache reading it. I had trouble following it actually. One of the problems with studies like that is it takes our eye\roff the ball. I mean we refer to studies instead of the reality. The reality is Police Departments<\/a> in major cities have been forced over the last 10 to 15 years have been urban replicas of the marine corp. Every societal change, let the chief handle it. The other aspect is that gene has a son. I have three sons. I never had to tell my sons when they were 14 or 15, remember, keep both hands on the wheel when you get pulled over, act respectfully. I never had to do that. I have one friend that has one white son and one black son. When his white son goes out he\rknows he will come home. When his black son goes out he is not so sure he will come home. Well be back in just a moment. Proud of you, son. Ge a manufacturer. 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What we are doing, what we are trying to accomplish here is above challenging. It is we are asking cops to do too much in this country. Become a part of this solution, serve your communities. Dont be a part of the problem. We are hiring. Were hiring. Get off that protest line and put an application in. Well put you in your\rneighborhood and well help you resolve some of the problems youre protesting about. That was Dallas Police<\/a> chief david brown. Speaking about the toll felt by america with us now from san francisco, kamila harris. Respond to those powerful words. I know him. I know the work of the dallas pd. I think he touched on a really important thing. We need to speak truth. This is a moment in time where our country needs to heal. A path towards that is a path of speaking truth. It is a myth to say that the black communities, poor communities dont want Law Enforcement<\/a>. They do. They dont want Excessive Force<\/a>. They dont want racial profiling\rbut they do want support. As we go forward it will be about understanding that truth is also the path towards trust. Trust is a reciprocal relationship. It is something all of us take and give. As we go forward i think the truth is going to also be a function of transparency and that means opening up our system and talking about what is actually going on in the system and confronting the realities of the history and where we are now but also embracing where we can be. Attorney general, this is Gene Robinson<\/a>. Hi, gene. Hi. How do you have that conversation . Everyone is sort of hunkered down in his or her own corner. How do you have that conversation . I think we have to really reject false choices. You know, all communities want safety. And so lets start from that place. All communities want that their children can walk down to the park and be safe. All which you kncommunities wan. I know that as a career prosecutor. Here is another thing i know, as someone i spent my entire life working shoulder to shoulder with Police Officers<\/a>. I dont know a cop that has not left their home at the beginning of a shift with a silent prayer that they come home at the end of their shift. As a black woman i dont know a black man, family member, colleague that has been an of racial profiling. Lets not be defensive about this. Afterwards some of the founders of the black lives Matter Movement<\/a> were critical, particularly that they should get off the protest lines and\rjoin the police force. They felt he was being naive or dismissing their concerns on the protest lines. What was your reaction to that specific call of his . You know, ill tell you in my experience. My parents were exactive in the civil rights movement. Thats what inspired me. It was about people being a voice and a voice for the voiceless and vulnerable. I this also what is or not is that everyone should think of themselves as being a part of\rit. It is an entity that receives trust. To get to that place we all have to work on that. That includes Law Enforcement<\/a>, taking on the responsibility to earning the trust. I think transpair si knowledging that when it happens there should be serious and severe and swift consequence and accountability. So general, after knowledging all acknowledging all of that, what do we do about the isolation of communities of color and police . Fresno, riverside, South Central<\/a> l. A. , you can go blocks without\rfinding a decent grocery store, the schools as good as the schools in santa monica, hospital care that is easily reachable and then the police. We tell police there were all sorts of horrific issues, you handle it. What do you do about cops that are isolated from a community that we all live. This is not a mo there is extreme economic divide. There is a history of a lack of opportunity for economic suck susz. Those are things we have to deal with. Lets talk about what we need to do. I wrote a book years ago. We need to be smart on crime. We have to reyeks to notion. It means not only reacting to crime after it occurred but before it occurs. To that point, part of prevention, you no, i, nothikno stops a bullet like a job. Lets look at what we are doing in terms of educating or not educating the children. Lets support the parents of the children and understand if you want to help those children help in the where they are being waged. Paid family leave, what are we doing around affordable child care. Lets bu still ahead, Bernie Sanders<\/a> expected to finally endorse Hillary Clinton<\/a> this morning, finally. Well see. Well bring in hunt with the\rlatest reporting. We discussed about how this mirrors what was going on in the 1960s. Coming up well have brian when we return. I like the bride more than the groom. 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He comes home and he is a father and helping the kids with homework and doing normal things. That really got my interested in\rplaying this guy. I covered columbia during the years of pablo escobar. How this project manage to capture that feeling of movie magic. Of course we are pretending to be in that. As i say, bob is like an actor in that he has to slip in and really believe himself and make others believe that he is a money launderer for the mob. If he does not do his job well he could be killed. If i dont do my job well i dont get hired again or we do a takeover again. Bob maizer and her colleagues were the ones that really came through. An undercover operative, he\rgoes home at night with his family and a different person during the day. How do you do that . How do you become two different people as one person . For 37 years i have been making a living at this. So slipping into someone elses shoes and taking on their characteristics is not a muscle that is not used. You know what i mean . That part wasnt difficult. What was difficult was to get the sensibility of being under cover and the pressure intention that that must be. Every night when he drove home he drove home on a different lo route. He had to make sure he was not being followed. That kind of tension was hard to live with. Why dont we bring in robe robert mazer. We have been asked not to show\rhis face and alter his voice. Bob, thanks for being with us. If he screws up his acting job he gets another take and if you screwed up you didnt go home at night. Talk about the extraordinary pressure you were under and how you managed to do it for so long. I was really fortunate. I had a lot of great trainers that supported me through the under cover school and about a year and a half to set up this operation before i even stepped on stage. I felt like i was really prepared in order do that. I had a tremendous amount of support throughout the operation. I like this thing of being a quarterback on a football team. I had a great oftenive lifensiv. I got carried across the line. It wasnt one of these\rindividual operations. Unfortunately i didnt get to go home every night. I was going to say, he gets to go home at night. You are where you are. I am not that familiar with the project and i dont want to give anything away but was your involvement with Pablo Escobars<\/a> death or before that . Before that. I was dealing with his principal reports, the people that he was handson managing. The operation ended the takedown was where a lot of people from the cartel as well as from the bank that we infiltrated ended that. I think one of the major operations was lifting the veil of the intentional involvement of an International Bank<\/a> that\rmarketed the underworld. I think it was more notable than the accomplishments of getting inside the cartel. Talk about being an under cover agent. Thats your job and you go home. Most people go home and say how was your day, honey . What did you do in response to questions like that . It certainly got stressful in the onethird of the operations. I might be gone far month and come home far day or so. That day was more disruptful to our relationship than if i didnt come home. My wife suggested that i just get this job overwith and stay there until it was over. It is for every longterm under cover. Its what i was told when i first walked in, you have to be\rprepared to normal reactions to an abnormal reaction. The stress is probably greater from a family perspective than it is when youre dealing with the bad guys thank you so much robert mazur for being here. We are indebted to you for your sacrifice. Thank you. So brian, extraordinary reallife role. So many of us have seen you with l. B. J. Sort of doing what biographers do. You totally immerse yourself. A guy who is extraordinarily fascinating, what was your take away from lbj, a guy who passed some of the most passing civil rights laws but could be one of the toughest, crassest\rpoliticians on the scene . I think we learned that no human being is ever one thing. There is a plet ra and you can be a politician and perhaps not politically or socially adequate. You couldnt be the best person. We saw a clip from the today show. You talked about trump being shakespearean. What is more shakespearean than that . He also had a tremendous sense of insecurity. He rode that Roller Coaster<\/a> up and down to some times tragic ways but other times great accomplishments. In the lbj series, it is on\rtv. This is a big screen movie. Talk about how the whole businesses changing this, so much great stuff now on tv. You have done both. Yeah, its just story telling. You want to follow the wellwritten word. Whether it takes you to television, breaking bad or to the stage where i did all the way here in new york or to a feature film, it really doesnt matter to me as much as finding where that best story is. If you take a look at breaking bad, it would have made a terrible movie. You would have been cheated. I think you take a look at your story and assess whats the best medium for this story . Did getting inside, did it\rchange how you on aev politics in realtime . You know, it seems to me that in his times there was much more cooperation that he would have dinner with those on the opposite side of the aisle. The next day when youre trying to hammer out a bill youre hesitant to throw that guy you just had dinner with under the bus and point the finger at him. Right now it seems like everybody is entrenched and arms folder. Not enough drinking. It has got to be more drinking. There we go. We solved the problems of washington right there. Thank you so much. Its great to see you again. 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His challenge today is going to be convincing a lot of his supporters that he actually has real conviction in backing Hillary Clinton<\/a> while at the\rsame time trying to tell them as he already tweeted, to keep up the fight. Progressive groups have been lining up over the last 24 hours. For democrats, it gives them a chance to show they are unified. It allows clinton to picking her Vice President<\/a> , doing all of that as republicans head into the convention which could be, of course, potential. Disunity there, katty. Thank you. Time to talk about what we learned today. What did you learn . I learned it is difficult to choose between sad and worried, fish and chicken but i think jeb bush should pick somebody to work for. I learned Gene Robinson<\/a> is tough. He is tough. You have to make a decision as clinton or trump. What did you learn . I learned jeb bush has the same knnobility as his father\rdichltd i thought he was more open yesterday than he was on the trail. 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