Transcripts For MSNBCW Morning Joe 20160720 : vimarsana.com

Transcripts For MSNBCW Morning Joe 20160720

It is wednesday, july 20th. Were live again from cleveland. Cleveland [ cheers and applause ] you know what they call cleveland . What do they call it . The city of champions. And it is. Along with us we have former Communications Director for former president george w. Bush. Shes asleep. Are you okay . It will be interesting. Coho willie geist is here. Have you been mauled on the streets by women . We walked into an underground oh, i wasnt supposed to tell anyone . He gets mobbed. Thats so cute. The cavs won the title. The Cleveland Indians have the best American League title as well. Good job, good job. I need an indians fleece. Im really hoping not to wear this five days in a row. If i could get an indians fleece here. Can we talk about the fact im getting a truck here . You should. I should. Where is mike . Youre buying a truck . If youre just waking up and have never seen morning joe before, how many people are watching . 73 million. This is a big day. This is a big day, though. Mika made a bet with david barna barnacle. He said donald trump will never get the nomination, and she said, ill belt yt you a truck. When do i get a truck to drive away . Donald trump is now the official republican nominee and put over the top by his four eldest children, casting the votes of the new york delegation. It is my distinct honor and great pleasure to nominate donald j. Trump for the office of president of the United States of america i have the incredible honor of not only being a part of the ride thats been this election process and to watch as a small fly on the wall what my father has done in creating this movement, because its not a campaign anymore, its a movement. Speaking to real americans, giving them a voice again, it is my honor to be able to throw donald trump over the top in the delegate count tonight with 89 delegates and another six for john kasich. Congratulations, dad we love you indiana governor mike pence was declared the Vice President ial nominee by acclimation, and with the ticket complete, trump thanked the convention via satellite. A little over one year ago, i announce mid candidacy for president , and about your vote today, this stage of the president ial process has come to a close. Together weve achieved historic results with the largest vote total in the history of the Republican Party. This is a movement, but we have to go all the way. So lets just stop right here, we might as well just stop right here. Willie geist, we said it in august, september, october, november, when everybody said it would never happen, kept holding up the newspapers, reading the dates, saying, its happening, its happening. I think in the midst of all the chaos and in the midst of all the controversy, we really should just press the stop button for one second and just talk about how extraordinary this is that donald trump is the republican nominee. This is the guy who has flirted with it many times, running for president. It became a cry of wolf. Nobody believed he would do it. He did it this time when no one thought he would do it. Then he stayed in the race. He rose up from 1 or 2 in the polls. Got through the summer of trump, made it through the fall of trump, and then the argument after that was, well, people say they like him because theyre mad at government, theyre not actually going to vote for him. Then comes New Hampshire. He wins New Hampshire. The dominoes begin to fall. It was a remarkable moment. If you were in the hall, you looked up, you heard donald trump make that announcement. There was a big scream over the top, they said donald trump was the nominee. It was a moment for pause to say, wow. Whether you like him or hate him, this was an incredible moment in american history. Wasnt donald trump at 1 or 2 . Because there have been other politicians that have begun campaigns at 1 or 2 . The numbers that were the most staggering at the time, and maybe you say, gosh, this guy is so unpopular in his own party, hell never win. It became 60s, 65 , among republican primary voters. And he turned those around quickly. Not just disapprovals, but in the polls where people would ask, as we did in our own polls, bloomberg, we would say never vote for him, never support him, and his numbers were in the high 60s not only from people who said they would never support him in the republican nomination, and in the course of a year he turned those numbers from 6030 never to 3060 ever. They turned it upside down. Ive never seen that in my career. Laughed at by the intellectual establishment, laughed at by the political establishment, laughed at by the media establishment. I mean, this guy was completely discounted as a complete joke. People stormed off our set in disgust when we said he might be able to win the nomination. No, no, nor, not that he migt be able to win the nomination, a lot of people were upset when we said early on he might be relevant, but there were moments a lot of the Political Class and the media class watch our show, and so something will happen on the show, and ill hear from a lot of people, well all hear from a lot of people. I think the moment that people stopped and said, wait a second, there is something happening out there actually was a moment we showed your focus group of New Hampshire voters, and somebody in that crowd said, i believe, something along the lines of hes one of us. Just like us. Hes just like us, and everybody gasped. There was a collective gasp among political and media elites watching that. Every four years we pick nominees, and theres always a combination of factors, primarily the mood of the electorate and what the person is offering up. And donald trump we all know hes unlike anyone else not because hes running for president , but i think hes unlike anyone ive ever met. He understand a lot about the electorate, he understands a lot about the current mood of the country, and hes been saying the same thing for decades about whats wrong. And what hes been saying suddenly matched up with a lot of people in america with that ability to talk to people in a way you know, don jr. Said once hes a blue collar billionaire. He understands working people. He talks like a guy from queens, not like a fancy guy. People like it. Before we dive into the show her brother, my dad. Your brother, my dad, but heres the question. Is this, though, broad enough . Has donald trump just figured out a massive version of microtargeting for the Republican Party . And im dead serious. Good question. Because we talk about how extraordinary it is what hes accomplished, and yet last night more people voting against him, more delegates since gerald ford. The thing ive noticed, all the empty chairs. Yeah. Ive noticed a lack of enthusiasm, which changed a bit last night. Into the night. Ive been to every Convention Since 96, ive never seen empty chairs like i have this one. Ive never felt the lack of enthusiasm on the floor. Maybe that changes by thursday night. But lets tell both sides of this story. This is a house divided. Yes. He is so polarizing that even at his own convention its a room divided. Hes such a polarizing figure. My parents were on to what you were describing well before i was. Last august i went home, and i had worked for the bush family and i said, oh, are you voting for hillary, and they said, oh, no, were trump people, and i was aghast. Hes bypassed all of us and anyone who has done this before, and there has been a connection and a relationship that excluded all of us, and to his credit, he did it without any of us. Thats right. Lets get to the highlights of the night. Despite the theme making america work again, many thought to contrast donald trump and Hillary Clinton. For a second straight night, delegates on the floor repeatedly broke into chants of lock her up, this time during Chris Christies address that took place during a mock trial prosecuting the case against clinton. America and the world are measurably less safe and less respected because of the iran deal that hillary helped cut, period. Hillary clinton, as an inept negotiator of the worst Nuclear Arms Deal in american history, is she guilty or not guilty . As a flawed evaluator of dictators and failed strategists who has permitted russia back in as a major player in the middle east, is Hillary Clinton guilty or not guilty . Guilty Hillary Clinton, as a coddler as the brutal caster of brothers and betrayer of foreign fallen state trooper warren and his family, is she guilty or not guilty . Guilty and here at home risking american secrets to keep her own and lying to cover it all up . Guilty so Chris Christie was the prosecutor, no doubt about it. He did his job very well up there. It was electric inside the hall, but there was a concern. All those chants of lock her up, the concern that they went from being enthusiastic to nasty. To being nasty, and we heard that even from republican senators and others who said too much, right . There was a cringing in the hall when the lock her up chants went up. They said, come on, guys, we can prosecute her without throwing her in prison. Chris christie did a prosecutors case. He thought he did a good job that way. He laid out case by case the reminders of why you should be against Hillary Clinton if youre a trump supporter, but he was doing the call and response guilty or not guilty. I dont think you can be terribly surprised the crowd responded the way it did, but it was sort of uncomfortable. For Chris Christie, here is a guy who four years ago was mocked and ridiculed for hugging barack obama. It certainly was a triumphant return to center stage for Chris Christie. And i thought he was a pretty calm adult voice in the room up on the stage. He laid it out the way a prosecutor would. Heres the question. Yesterday we had mike murphy on our show and mike said one of the purposes of a National Convention is to reach outside your party base, expand your coalition, right . And so what in the course of the last two nights putting aside the performances, good performances, bad performances of individuals, what has the party done in the last two nights to expand, to reach out beyond its base . Its disqualifying, isnt it . From both sides. When i watch lock her up, that totally revs up the Republican Base. Is there anything outside the Republican Base who hears lock her up . This is the sort of thing i would always say. Youre playing to your home crowd, youre playing to your home crowd, but an abc news poll from last week, 65 of americans think she should have been indicted. 65 . Only 35 dont think she should have been indicted. So yes, i wish the crowd hadnt have chanted lock her up, but this sentiment goes well beyond the Republican Party. Again, my initial reaction, your initial reaction. Then i remember that abc poll. There are a lot of americans who think that comey gave her a free pass. It goes back to what we were saying, about the only democrat donald trump could win a general election against is Hillary Clinton and the only one Hillary Clinton could win is against donald trump. I think ivanka trump will be the one tomorrow night in the room. Well see an array of national figures, president obama, Michelle Obama, bill clinton its going to be something else. And mike pence tonight i think will be solid, but Chris Christie is one of the few people in donalds corner who can command a national audience. Thats a big thing for him and a big thing for trump. Im told the abc poll was 66 want her indicted. You mentioned ivanka. Were still looking at the fallout over Melania Trumps speech. It continued yesterday as her husbands campaign continued to defend the passages of the potential first ladys address thought by many to be lifted from Michelle Obamas thought by many. Thats a safe way of saying plagiarism. It was lifted from Michelle Obamas speech. It was clearly plagiarism. I just want to say to all the trump surrogates that were on the air yesterday suggesting that it was not plagiarism, you are making the same mistake Hillary Clinton made at the un press conference. Do not treat americans like theyre stupid. They will turn on you fast. Use your own brains. I will give donald trump credit. Yesterday he stayed away from this. Because if donald trump had gone out and said it wasnt plagiarism, he would be Hillary Clinton at the united nations. It was plagiarism. A plagiarism website turned it in, analyzed the speech and found it a one in a million chance that two writers would come up with the same lines. So youre saying theres a chance. Every lughead like you would Say Something like that to the dumb and dumber. Many people were saying there were slight differences in the passages, and for many who give speeches, the times and the speech where Michelle Obama edited and went off script a little bit, and the same with melania. They were exactly the same. By the way, we have a special offer for everybody who is a trump supporter. You can come on our show and say it wasnt plagiarism, and guess what were going to have for you . A clip that shows the plagiarism. Im serious, every time somebody comes on this show and says it wasnt plagiarism, were going to play the clip. Thats our challenge to you. I suggest you dont say its not plagiarism. Note to our friends. In response to the media storm, chairman Paul Manafort pointed directly this is unbelievable. I cant believe this guy. Blaming Hillary Clinton, saying why . He is the most negative, kind of harsh person ive ever seen leading a campaign. Oh, come on its like lurch. Stop it. Now youre sounding like democratic activists in the ukraine. Oh, my god. Seriously lets just stop that. Well, john lever doesnt like him. You just called him lurch. Shes called me lurch before. Were not even going to play this clip. This is where manafort says Hillary Clinton play the clip. Play the clip. There is a political tint to this whole issue, and certainly weve noted that the clinton camp was the first to get it out there when Hillary Clinton was threatened by a female, the first thing she does is try to destroy the person. He didnt do that, did he . Its like a female thing . He used the word female . Are you kidding me . What year is this . Is this 1970, lurch . What . Were females. Arent you lucky you have two females on the panel. That hurt. Oh, my god. Manafort for the past couple days, hes had a horrible Republican Convention. Hes gotten in the way two days in a row early and often. I think he thinks hes great. He attacked john kasich, upset the state. This is a state that they have to win if they want to win the white house. And then the next day, of course, this. They just made the decision to bull through it and hoped the press would move to other things, which to some extent the media has with don jr. s speech and the roll call yesterday. We dont know all the facts yet of what happened, but we do know that they didnt want to engage in another day of going at the facts and just say this is Hillary Clintons fault. I think that what happened yesterday, aside from the gender undertones which i agree with mika on we agree, too. Today we are all women. I love it. So the central concern has been his inflammatory rhetoric, and the essential worry that ha handwringing establishment is the crazy things he says. Now the concern is the competence of his operation. I think the melania dustup, first of all, that shes the first victim of his pirate ship sort of Campaign Style is sort of a tragic irony. Shes the most innocent sort of actor in the entire operation, that shes the first victim to the chaos that surrounds everything his campaign does is sad. Im sure that makes him disappointed that he hasnt built up an effective operation. She did a great job with her speech. She did a great job. This doesnt fall on her shoulders, it falls on the operation behind her and suggests its incredibly weak. You can beat back an im too fiery with a Straight Talk defense. You might not like the muslim ban but people fight back because theyre scared. Especially, john heilman, if your entire argument has been there are a bunch of idiots in washington who dont know how to run the federal government, if you look like you dont know how to run a campaign, wait until you get a 4 trillion budget and youre in charge of hundreds of thousands of people and youre running the world. You cant get melanias speech again. As youre seeing, they arent being much of a Trump Campaign in a traditional sense. The argument has been, hes gotten so far, dont worry about it. Its been hypothetical. Here was like a tangible thing where not having a Real Campaign had a real victim, and the real victim happened to be the nominees wife. You went around the hall last night, mike and i were Walking Around talking to people, senators, governor. This is where the house divided kind of comes into play. A lot of they see folks want to make go for trump. They see Something Like this and say, i have other doubts about trump, but when the incompetence is on display this way, it makes it that much harder for people on the fence, the republican establishment, party followers, to kind of say, okay, im ready, lets go. Its funny how 24 hours later the pa

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