First of all let me say to everybody very humble. This guys shame has no limits. Hes gone so far to ask putin and russia to conduct Cyber Attacks against the United States of america. Hes even showered praise on saddam hussein, one of the vilest dictators of 20th century. He would have loved stalin. He would have loved stalin. I was proud my son bo served for a year in iraq, came back a highly decorated soldier. I must tell you i must tell you that donald trump as president i would have thrown my body in front of him. No, i really mean it. To keep him from going if the judgment was based on trumps decision. If my son were still in iraq, and i say to all those that are there, the threat to their life has gone up a couple clicks. Its gone up a couple clicks. Thats powerful stuff. Vice President Joe Biden talking yesterday in scranton. Mark, a heck of a speech. A tour deforce by the vice president. First time he campaign in scranton where hes just got a special feeling for the people. It was emotional and funny and fun and she clearly loved being with him. Another pairing that brings out the best in her. I think youll see a lot more of it. Donny deutsch, youve been a new yorker your whole life. Im one of these guys that will in fact we were having the conversation yesterday. People talk about new yorks turnaround, they talk about giuliani. Im sorry, you can love giuliani or hate giuliani but what he did to the city was pretty damn extraordinary. Everybody can make it, well, it was this, it was that. It was giuliani and leaders around giuliani but what is he willing to do in the name of donald trump to say we hadnt suffered a terror attack before barack obama. Is that what it was . Before the last eight years. Here is a bite. Everybody is twisting in the wind for donald trump. This sticks with them. Play the clip. Mikes background is exactly a compliment to donald trump will hes a member of Foreign Affairs and judiciary committee. Hes a member during the time of september 11th when we went through the worst foreign attack in our history since the war of 1812. By the way, under those eight years before obama came along, we didnt have any successful radical terrorist attack in the United States. They all started when clinton and obama got into office. Wait. Im confused. Weve got to get a calendar. I thought september 11th happened it was. First of all, everybody is twisting in the wind. Youre an expert on brands. What does it do for the branding of marco rubio when he says donald trump is a con man but i support the con man. Paul ryan, donald trump is a racist but i support racists. This guy is going to march off the stage and into their wonderful life. It makes them weak. I dont understand, its such a simple move to say, ive come this far but i cant. The they think about trump thats interesting, everybody advertising why and how, its baked in at this point, nothing is changing. I think whats more interesting is what will happen over the next 80 days. One of three things is going to happen. Either hes going to do a George Mcgovern and lose an electoral landslide. Knowing that man, i cant see him letting it get to that point. B, something horrific happens outse this country, whether its russian emails or god forbid a terrorist attack that starts to push in his direction, which is even more frightening, tom friedman wrote a column about that. Or three, Something Different happens than weve ever seen before. I dont think we get to a point, we were arguing about this yesterday, where this guy is going to go through the next 85 days as a loser. I think somehow, some way hes not going to get up every morning and continue to do it. This is not the typical candidate. This is a 70yearold billionaire who did this as a lark. He did not plan on it happening this way. By the way, he didnt expect to win. Were going to see history. Its not going to be were going to go this way. On Election Night everybody is going to be sitting on this podium saying donald trump loses another state. Something is going to happen before that. Whether its him throwing down the mic and leaving, something we havent thought through. Lets bring in political commentator for abc news and npr Cokie Roberts. We dont know exactly whats going to happen with donald trump and i have a feeling donald trump doesnt know whes going to happen to donald trump. A lot of republicans saying hes a con man but they are supporting him. Hes a racist but they are supporting him. He exits the stage, what is the Lasting Impact on paul ryan and marco rubio and Rudy Giuliani and Republican Party. They are morally tainted. Theres no question about that. You cant say hes a racist and what he said was textbook racism but i support him because hes the nominee of my party. I disagree that hes going to disappear from the stage. I think everybody is writing him off way too fast as president obama said yesterday. We dont know whats doing to happen in the next 90 days. We dont know whether Hillary Clinton could have some huge mistake or some horrible revelation, any of those things. I would not say donald trump is a goner by any means whatsoever. What about the Republican Party. The Republican Party has a big problem, joe. You know this party well. It is definitely put its self in a position where its one thing to say, okay, our guy cant win. Bob dole cant win so were going to support the house and san mateo candidates and do that. George mcgovern the last time i ever saw my father, infecti f he was majority leader and they were raising money because they knew mcgovern was going to lose. He came to california where i was living and i saw him then. The fact is thats one approach. The approach of saying were still for him because hes the nominee, it just puts them in a position i dont think they can defend. Cokie, obviously you grew up in Politics Around your mom and dad, have you ever seen anything like this. No. No. Where you have a candidate so morally tainted as a candidate, so challenged that people are calling him a racist and calling him a con man, at the same time saying we support him. Nobody has ever seen anything like this. Not only did i grow up in politics, i grew up in the jim crow south. We spent the last 50 years trying to bring people together instead of push people apart. So that becomes a terrible stain on the country. Even when we had candidates like david duke come up, which hes doing again in my home state, people understood they couldnt support him. In fact he was running against edwards who was on his way to jail and all the bumper stickers said vote for the crook. Its important. This business of sort of saying, well, all those ter erible thin he says dont matter, that is really unacceptable. Mark, i think what donnie said is right. Theres going to be something. This is not going to go, play its self out for 85 days, whatever it is. And cokie is right, with the clintons involved nothing will change. Nothing ever happens in a linear mom. Theres an intervening moment. Trumps inability to perform consistently, poll numbers, those are daunting to come back against. Going to test him and see whether theres more to him than weve seen so far. Lets look at the poll numbers. A new poll released this morning shows Hillary Clinton with a ninepoint lead nationally. The latest nbc News Survey Monkey online poll finds clinton leading trump 5041. When the field is expanded to libertarian and Green Party Candidates clintons lead shrinks by 3 points, 4337. 42 said clinton had the personality and temperament to serve. 20 said she shares their values and 11 said she was honest and trustworthy. Just 17 found donald trump had the personality and temperament to serve. 23 said he shares their values and 16 say he was honest and trustworthy. Meanwhile Hillary Clintons main super pac is putting a temporary hold on Television Ads in three battleground states. According to bloomberg priorities suspending colorado, pennsylvania and virginia until the end of september. The news comes amid clintons strong showing in the latest wave of spring state polling, up 14 in colorado, 11 in pennsylvania and 13 in virginia. Steve kornacki, thats pretty remarkable in mid august that a candidate is already starting to take ads off the air because shes do so well. Also im sure you saw the latest projections from the Cook Political Report and electoral map. You look at those states, im having a hard time finding a state they handed to Hillary Clinton for 270 electoral vote win that i would take off the map for her, or thats even in play right now. If you took all the states broadly defined we think of battleground states, potentially competitive either way and said im only going to award Hillary Clinton states where shes ahead 10 points in the polls, double digit leads. If you only did that and left Everything Else as a tossup shes at 273. Were in a situation where Donald Trumps path right now is theoretically. His first state, not turning blue states to red states, its about states where Hillary Clinton is blowing him out, in states where hes at least within striking distance. Thats how far in the hole he is. Shes over 270 electoral votes if you just look at double digits. New hampshire, pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, virginia, colorado. If you give her those right now and say at this point shes blowing him out right there, that puts her at 273. Sam stein, not bad. New york city its not bad. Not bad math for her. She sits in a good position. Washington post poll came out showing her up 14 Percentage Points in virginia. Wow. So shes in the drivers seat here. One thing ive noticed about these polls, while she is doing better, a lot of the margin is owed to the fact trump has lost considerable ground with Republican Voters. Perhaps cokie can weigh in on this. To what extent does he have to to what extent does he have to consolidate his base and continue to do so versus try to completely upend all the dynamics of the race and maybe take a moonshot for a National Victory here. Thats exactly right. Shes getting about 90 to 92 of the democratic vote and hes getting in the low 70s of the republican vote. And so that sort of explains to some degree why he keeps doubling down on talking points Republican Voters like, like attacking the media, so he can get that base energized and excited. But it hasnt gotten him first of all, hasnt gotten him the base. Second, certainly hasnt gotten him at the moment beyond the base. How long have you known donald . Twenty some years. Ive known him for over a decade. Why dont you try answering this question because i have everybody asking me the question, whats going on in his mind . Whats he doing . I know he wasnt planning on being here. But he had a shot. Listening to cokie and mark, he may still have a shot to be president of the United States. But hes not behaving like a man who rationally is moving in a direction to get elected president of the United States. First cokie and mark, the number when you say only 17 of people think he has the temperament, which means thinks hes capable of doing the job. Thats a huge number. We know why that is and thats baked in and not changing. This is a guy, in case anybody thinks hes going to change, anybody who has been married for 20 years turn to your husband or wife and wait for change and we know thats not happening. I think this guy has lived everything in life except being a loser. This is what hes going through now. Hes getting up in the morning he was bankrupt. You know what bankrupt means . Some of his enterprises were bankrupt. You throw the keys at the bank, here, take the keys back. He was never truly bankrupt. I believe right now hes tired, hes pissed. I think eventually and i said this before the way out by the way, the reason hes not going away regardless of what happens whether he leaves the election, loses the election, theres going to be a trump party coming out of this, trump from here on in is the third party in this country, whether he forms a party or not, hes got 20, 30, 40 million you agree with that, cokie . Yes. Thats what we saw at the quote, unquote, republican convention. It was a trump convention. There was nothing republican about it. The stars were members of his family. It was just all about him and the people who support him. That gets to your earlier questions about what about the Republican Party. The Republican Party has got to regroup and figure its self out. Not only have they found themselves in an untenable position visavis him, but they also are back in that awful place where they really only have appeal to white voters. They cant do that in modern america and expect to win. Can i just say one thing on this, whats going on in the Republican Party. Its true trump is running he has less support among republicans than clinton has among democrats. Its a real group of republicans were talking about. These tend to be College Educated suburbanite white collar professionals. Look around suburbs of any major area, that is key for republicans. What trump has bluecollar white base of the Republican Party. Hes lost the suburban base. Thats what he lost. Thats why doubling down on this rhetoric like we saw yesterday thats the rhetoric that appeals to bluecollar base. Thats the rhetoric that turned off suburbanites. Mark. Having become the republican nominee, who or what do you think he feels an obligation to to do well besides himself . Nobody. He knows that. Thats not even a question. I think what this country by the way, ive said that to republicans for a long time. He doesnt care about the Republican Party, hes a democrat. What about his donors. Are you kidding me . Come on. This is a guy lets understand this guy has lived his life a certain way. Hes not changing. I think what this country has to come to grips with is we are going to be a threeparty system going forward. Its march, lets say Hillary Clinton is president. Lets Say Something happens in this country, whether theres an attack or something happens economically and they are going to go to Hillary Clinton and cameras are going to then go to donald trump. I dont care who the up and coming is, paul ryan, thats media reality. It depends sam stein if he was blown out like goldwater was or worse, politics is an ugly game. If you lose that badly, youre just a loser. True. And they shove you off the stage and tell you to go away. We do na in the United States with our true, except for this part, which is if hes proven to be successful at one part of the campaign, its at getting and manipulating the media. I dont think that goes away even if he suffers yeah, it does, because hes relevant. The media will follow him when hes relevant. You can only set your hair on fire so many times. The big question joe i have a question. Donnie, ive heard a lot more chatter about the fact he doesnt actually want to win at this point. Im curious. Second, what would you put the probability at this juncture of finishing the race instead of dropping out. Ive said this all along and asked him on this show. I know you want to win, do you want the job . I dont think he wants the job. By the way, people close to him says he doesnt want the job. By the way, if you have that job you have to sit in a meeting and Pay Attention for two hours. Hes the type of guy, he runs, he guns, hes doing what he wants to do, his version of president , giving speeches. He doesnt want this. I believe he wants a certain way out. To your point if theres a moment in time he can stand up and say for the good of the country im doing this and im going to be this voice. Theres new math. Hes not going down a loser. He doesnt want this job. Lets go to Cokie Roberts who was interrupted. Sorry, cokie. All right, sam. Sam stein. I wanted to know that answer, too. But look, theres a bigger problem here, which is that all this talk about a rigged election. Right. And cheating and all of that, even if he exits the stage, hes leaving behind a lot of people who are going to then think that whomever is president is an illegitimate presidency. Weve already had a couple of president s where thats been a problem. The democrats accept bush because of the supreme court. A lot of republicans and others didnt accept obama with the whole birther thing. And now we have another president where we dont go with the tried and wonderful american tradition of accepting the winner when youre the loser, that is a real problem for this country. Hes creating it. And do donnies point, donald trump loved nothing more than just talking. You called donald up and he would tell you all the great poll nulls. He was on a constant loop. All the numbers are bad. Sam said he woke up this morning to Washington Post virginia poll that has him losing 5238 . How quickly the narrative flips then. Its not that the polls are right, its that the media is wrong and polls are wrong and everything is rigged going back to what cokie said and going back to the question of whether or not he wants it. Come back to the story out of kasichs camp whether or not its true, who knows, about Donald Trumps son approaching them saying that kasich would run foreign and domestic policy. When asked what donald trump would be doing, hed be makin