Reset works. Lets see if this one qualifies. Trump Shuffles Team late in the game. Okay. Very good. All right. Did you rehearse this . No. Its pretty good. Heres something also. Come on, this is not looking good. A few u. S. Swimmers, is it herald ford jr. May need to hire you as their attorney. Do you have a theory . I never had a gun pointed to my face. Maybe you forget how it was pointed, how close it was. Or the appallgist herald ford. You were accused for being for mr. Bannon. I was. When we walked off the set you said you were getting absolutely pounded on twitter. Says campaign rookie, you had a lot of people saying this is the worst guy in the world. Most horrible human being ever and then we saw an article saying this is the most dangerous man like in the westernhemisphere. I never met bannon. He has been heavily covered. He has been heavily covered. Is he as bad as everyone says he is . He certainly is a controversial figure to someone we have never worked. To be at the top of one with 75 days to go. T the. I saw dana lowe she was not a leftwing supervisor. Hes got detractors. He has detractors not just on the left, but on the right. Its fascinating. Good morning, its thursday, august 18th. You know, in connecticut, kids dont go to school until like october. Down in florida, theyre already back in school. Texas, tennessee, as well. They start early august. I dont get it. I kind of like, actually, the first day after labor day. It seems right. You get to go to camp, joe. Yeah, exactly. Speaking of camp, mika has the morning off. She is in fashion camp somewhere in French Riviera and with us on set managing editor Mark Halperin and kasie hunt and former democratic congressman recently engaged is is the case. Mention it, again. Well keep mentioning it. Also the man that taught me that brevity is the soul of wit. Richard hass. Washington anchor for bbc world news America Katty Kay and josh green. Josh, i think youre the man who wrote that steve bannon was the worst human being on the planet. Ill paraphrase. Light paraphrase. I wrote that he is the most dangerous political operative in america. Not clear if hes most dangerous to republicans or democrats or maybe both. Someone who has spent a lot of time with bannon that he is the distilled essence of donald trump in a nutshell. Isnt that something . I guess, katty, of donald trump being praised yesterday in some quarters certainly for a reset, but certainly doesnt Kellyanne Conway. Most people think she did very good on the plane talking to donald trump and moderating some of the sharper edges of the message. But doesnt sound like that is the case with dobannon. He is being described as trumpier than trump. I didnt think that was possible. As we said yesterday, this looks like trump reducts. More of the same thing we are going to be getting. Rare day on the calendar yesterday as donald trump went without holding a rally or speaking to the press except for a pretaped interview to the press. He held a roundtable with advisors at trump tower to discuss what Police Departments can do fighting terrorism. His decision to restruck to the campaign. Trump elevated Kellyanne Conway and added steve bannon. In a campaignwide memo the changes made for an exciting day for team trump going on to clarify. I remain the Campaign Chairman and chief strategist providing the Big Picture Campaign vision. In his new role, steve will bring to the campaign a businesslike daytoday leadership approach to the ceo position that is reflective of our leader, donald trump. Kelly ap kellyanne provide Senior Leadership on the road with the traveling campaign. Embracing the shakeup and what they see as two onmessage teleprompter guided speeches in recent days. Jason miller told the Washington Post yesterday if youre watching cable news shows, you can make the case this was the best morning for us in weeks. Yesterday conway said trump would keep the focus on clinton to win back republicans. Some of the voter has been among republicans. Those are republicans saying i diddant necessarily like the last couple weeks and i wanted you to know that. I like when you take on Hillary Clinton. There are two people you need to take on. If you want to throw the main stream media in there once a while, go ahead. This is like a tennis match and you look across the net and you keep lobbing with her. You dont pick a fight and boo the crowd. Focus on her, she is very real. We should probably also talk about her numbers. Hillary clinton has reverse gender gap. Doing so poorly with men almost everywhere. They dont like her, they dont trust her and they do not want her to be president of the United States and commander in chief. It is very much in our sights. That sounded like herald ford a campaign professional. Im just seeing a little, im a little off kilter this morning. That sounds like what you would want a Republican Campaign manager to say in the middle of a Republican Campaign. And thats just such a shock. And she also spoke truth to trump, which is, hey, if youre out on the court, dont yell at the ref and dont shout at the crowd and dont get mad at your own teammates. Lob the ball back across the court. Flooding public space with more criticism and negative criticism towards hillary and trying to keep him focused. That second part could be a challenge. The first part is something shes good at. I dont agree with kellyanne on a lot of things, but i have respect for her. Putting her in a position to make big decisions. Whatever the vision stuff he says hes doing is a positive. People have to recognize that what we thought would happen in this campaign earlier is happening now. Certainly is, again, with kellyanne. We dont know, steve bannon if she has a hand in his message, its going to be a big, big plus up, kasie. Based on what we heard right there and what we have seen over the last 20 years with her. She has credibility, its rare in this posttea party and intense credibility on the right, and she does. As well as with establishment republicans, which she does. You saw demonstrated there. You said, yes, she did speak some truth to trump and she did make it seem that she called him out for a mistake. Which is a very narrow line to walk. Very important if you want to succeed inside the Trump Campaign. If you look at the period we are in now. A lot of coverage about the kickoff. What do you think would be on the trump todo list to get done . If he portrays himself as the outsider, i mean, joe has laid out on this so many times before the different kinds of things you need to do. He lays out the outsider role he wants to play that mrs. Clinton cant be trusted because so much of an insider and then i think for me, one of the things i worry most about him is his Foreign Policy experience and the kind of people he will keep around him and the kinds of things he will say in the middle, in the middle of Big National SecurityForeign Policy debacles. If he continues to project like he did this morning, that reassures people and if he brings people like richard hass around. He absolutely loves richard. Richard was getting some phone calls a couple weeks ago. Richard, though, it doesnt help when he goes into his first intel briefing and he says he doesnt trust the Intel Community. Kellyanne probably didnt write that. He has to stop that. You dont want to make this a referendum on him. Thats the kind of comment that makes it a referendum on him. To blame u. S. Intelligence for u. S. Intelligence and policymakers and intelligence speaks truth to power and power does what it wishes. It would be much better for him to say, hey, we have the greatest professionals in the Intel Community that any country can have in the world, but even they cant make things better if you have people elected and people running state department that dont know what theyre doing. He could actually point to specific areas where u. S. Intelligence officials say, hey, be careful before you go into iraq. Heres the mess that is going to follow. Theres tons of information out there that would show that u. S. Policymakers were warned about the consequences of doing or not doing certain things. Like iraq or libya or even getting out of iraq as quickly as possible. Theyre not the enemy. Katty, were trying to figure out exactly what happened with this Trump Campaign. Kellyanne makes it sound like a reset, but, again, steve bannon makes it sound like it is, it is much, much more of the same. What do we know about steve bannon . It is a bit confusing, isnt it . Two rather conflicting tones and messages coming out of this. But, josh, you have a new story out this morning about whether bannon can revive the campaign. As you put it, free donald trump. You say, the shakeup is an Ominous Development for republican elected officials and the effect he could have on down ballot races across the country. In recent years breitbright has helping to drive out House Speaker john boehner and more recently making life difficult for paul ryan. Breitbart visited his wisconsin home which is surrounded by a wall and published a story shaming him to erect a wall along the Mexican Border. So, youre saying, katty, he uses a light touch. Yeah. And props, apparently. Yeah. Not afraid to go to peoples home where they have children. This is the contradiction exactly as you say. Is it going to be that kelly ane conway and implying, what, youre going to get a hold of the cia and attacking the media or is it going to be breitbart who is much more of a fire thrower in the mold that donald trump likes being. Looks like a classic Good Cop Bad Cop scenario there. The way i think of it, this isnt the perfect metaphor. You have paul manafor telling him to behave and straighten up. The other shoulder you have steve bannon. You were the first person since his mother rocked him many years ago. They call paul manifort. Perfect is far from perfect. But there can be no doubt that steve bannon is the little red devil on trumps other shoulder telling him to, you know, unleash his inner wild man and go after the kind of people that trump wants to go after. Bannon has one tool, and that is a sledge hammer. If you read Breitbart News and you listen to him talk about other main stream republicans, he has an outright and open discussion with them. What are his politics . Is it just blow the place up or is he a libertarian or a nation nationalist . What drives him . Bannon believes we are on a cusp of a global nationalist uparising. He is tight with the former leader. This is, you know, he believes irn a theory of trumpism that predates and will extend just beyond donald trump. Would he agree with Donald Trumps statement about mexicans . Would he support the muslim ban . Is he that sort of nationalist . Bannon, if you can remember all the way back to last june, trumps very first trip. An visited the Mexican Border it was just absolute chaos and madness. Steve bannon organized that trip. That gives you an idea of what his politics are and what hes interested in talking about. This is something that ought to just terrify republicans on the ticket who are in purple states who are trying to win close elections. It is going to be made more difficult, i think, if steve bannon is the guy whisperring in trumps ear. Who says. Or shouting in trumps ear as the case may be. Who says . I say. That wasnt him. Was it cohen. Who says . We will show that in a second. Before we do that, lets show them who says with the latest round of polls. Its those big, bad polls. The latest wave of swing state polling confirms states that have been very much in play for republicans in recent years are increasingly slipping away from donald trump. The new quinnipiac poll in colorado Shows Hillary clinton by ten points. When you add in thirdparty candidates her lead is eight with lib tearian gary johnson polling. And in iowa, clinton leads by 3 , thats inside the margin of error. When you add in thirdparty candidates there. Gary johnson is polling at 12 . Lets take a look at the rust belt, an area of the Trump Country that, of course, trump is trying to take away from democrats. In michigan, detroit mitchell poll shows trump and trump leading in indiana in his running mates home state. 4736. Still, someone must not have briefed showing Hillary Clinton with a solidifying bounce in the wake of the conventions. Take a look at this. You say its not a shakeup, but you guys are down. And it makes sense says who . Polls. Most of them. All of them. Says who . Polls. I just told you. I answered your question. Which polls . All of them. Okay. And your question is . I mean, you got to respect the guy. Who says . He wanted data. He wanted some data. She gave him data. I liked her answer. She went with the blanket answer. Which ones . All of them. Hes like, okay. Then went home. So, these numbers who says. Q says. Virginia plus 12. Still bad there. Michigan double digits. Double digits in all the rust belt states. Mark halperin. Right now, obviously, this could all change. Right now, though, its looking pretty bad in all of these polls. I mean, the public data has been so consistent. The Trump Campaign claims it closer. They can narrow the gap in the next coming week physical they can get more men to be for trump than are currently there and their biggest problem now is the media narrative. I shouldnt say their biggest problem. One of their biggest problems, theyre getting hammered every single day. The polls drive so much of the coverage that you cant, on one level, blame them for trying to change the subject. But in my career, ive never seen such consistency in public polls. Theyre very consistent. But, richard, we were talking about natural tightening and there always is a natural tightening. What weve seen now, i believe, youve seen these polls, obviously, the gap widen. A great deal because donald trump has had two, three, four of the worst weeks that he could possibly have. And theres a natural reaction to that. Especially among College Educated women and College Educated republicans. Theres going we know hillary is going to do something, say something. Gone out lying about emails, again. Thats when you think, okay, maybe hes not as crazy as i think and there is going to be a natural tightening at some point. As we get to labor day, this could be, you know, a lot of these margins could be cut in half. Youve seen, youve seen a lot of campaigns before. I just dont think that hillary rides off into the sunset. I think this tightens pup. Agree in part, also, becau trump is a better match for the moment. Thats twothirds of americans think the country is headed in the wrong direction. He, in principle, represents radical change. Theres doubts about hillary. So, i dont get the sense that in any way this is over. Too many people observing this are essentially saying the outcome now is preordained. Dont we all agree with richard . The times could not match a candidate better for all of his flaws than they match trump. And the times could not be more misaligned if thats even a word with Hillary Clinton. Who is the establishment. Do you agree with that . I do. I also think when you look at the numbers and i agree with mark. The public polling is remarkably consistent. But when youre not at 50, the poll she is at 50 out the ones that say, i agree with them. Now its hard to see him overcome them. When shes not above 50, there are a group of people out there to an individual pollster on the telephone who say theyre for trump. When youre not there, thats what worries me. Im for Hillary Clinton. Thats where the focus has to be. Kasie, youve been out on the campaign trail for over a year. Youve seen it first hand. The call for change. The call for change. And it started out covering republicans. You saw it there. Then i spent several months covering bernie sanders. No one ever expected that 70 something socialests from vermont would mount such a challenge to Hillary Clinton. The fact that she didnt have another opponent speaks to the depth of her establishment roots. She cleared the field of everyone but him. But that sort of undercurrent is something that it took them a while to pick up on in the clinton campaign, i think. Trump tapped into it right away. I think theyre now at the point where they understand it and, frankly, you know, trumps selfinflicted wounds are helping them. But that moment could turn against her because of some unpredictable event we cant see sitting here today. By the way, Michael Cohen sound bite brings us to a segment that weve been doing since, i think, 3 when we started . 4. All the kids listening on Armed Forces Radio across the world. This edition of great moments in surrogate malpractice. After the surge when al qaeda was in ashes, entering barack obama and Hillary Clinton, remember, we werent even in afghanistan by this time. Barack obama went into afghanistan creating another problem. So, youre saying barack obama took the country into afghanistan post2009. Is that what youre saying . What im saying is, the policies you just said we werent in afghanistan. That was obamas war, yes. By the way, under those eight years before obama came along, we didnt have any successful, radical, islamic terrorist attack in the United States. They all started when clinton and obama got into office. You say its not a shakeup, but you guys are down and it makes sense says who . Says who . Polls. Most of them. All of them. Says who . Polls. I just told you. I answered your question. Which