Former president bill Clinton Campaigns for his wife in las vegas. Chelsea clinton is also back on the Stump Holding four events for her mom today, two in North Carolina and two in virginia. So that does it for us on this wednesday, im the money that is put into these accounts can also be spent not only on child care but also child enrichment activities. See. Well start with that child. That will be our first child. Thats cute. The circle of life and it moves us all my gosh. I want this one. He held a baby a long time. Thank god for donald trump because the concept of child care is finally coming to the fore here in america. When is Hillary Clinton going to do that . Talk about child care. Thats what trump said last night. When is she going to do it . Its been decades. May 14th. What are you talking about . Dont be mad. I dont understand. I found it on the google. What are you talking about . Explain this to me like a fourth grader. What are you talking about . I dont know. Its early. Donald trump said that hillary should come to a plan. Why wont she . Shes got one already. And tweeted in the middle of his speech here it is. Its wednesday, september 14th. We have some people that obviously that whole donald trump and lion king. I thought it was fantastic. Mike barnicle. Former Communications Director for president george w. Bush nicole wallace. Cofounder of politico, and in washington, former government of vermont and former chair of the Democratic National committee, howard dean. Good to have howard onboard. How many times have parents around this table seen lion king. I cry every time. Ive seen it 47 times. My two older boys wanted to see it like 25 times so i did and kate and jack have seen it the
other 22 times. That and cars and toy story are on a constant loop at our house. Here we go. Were going to talk about children. Its good to hear both candidates care. Hillary clinton is set to return to the campaign trail tomorrow as she continues to recover from her bout with pneumonia. Her Campaign Says she spent the day reading briefings and making calls but her wide network of surrogates has maintained her present in the field. Yesterday her husband picked up her events and chelsea was on trail in winstonsalem and president obama hit the stump in philadelphia. He took his 58 Approval Rating on the road praising clinton and mocking trump. I keep on reading this analysis that, well, you know, trump has support from, like,
working folks. Really . This is the guy you want to be championing working people . This guy who spent 70 years on this earth showing no concern for working people . This guy suddenly is going to be your champion . You want to debate who is more fit to be our president . One candidate who has traveled to more candidates than any secretary of state ever has, has more qualifications than pretty much anyone thats after run for this job, and the other one who isnt fit any way, shape or form to represent this country abroad and be its commander in chief. This is not reality tv. The donald. Who just last week went on Russian State Television to talk down our military and curry
favor with Vladimir Putin. He loves this guy. And when the interviewer asked why do you support this guy . Hes a strong guy. He has an 82 poll rating. Saddam hussein had a 90 poll rating. I mean, if you control the media and you have taken away everybodys Civil Liberties and you jail dissidents, thats what happens. Y the pollster calls up and says do you support the guy who you didnt support, hell throw you in jail, you say, yes, i love that guy. I have to do business with putin and russia. I dont go around saying thats my role model. Can you imagine Ronald Reagan idolizing somebody like that. So donald trump hit back at
the president. Hold on. Wait. What do you all think of that . Its so easy for him. This race might be close between trump and clinton. The surrogate race forget it. Her surrogates started with the president , Vice President and everybody else she has out on the trail. Did i hear 58 right . Yes. You know, you go through you talk about football teams or president of the United States, a lot of time it depends on who follows you. You dont want to follow bear bryant if youre a coach at university of carolina. I think it was Andrew Johnson that said of Abraham Lincoln heroes know when to die, right . This is that in reverse. Barack obama could not be luckier if hes worried about his legacy and his Approval Ratings to have these two candidates with Approval Ratings
in the 30s following him. Everybody is looking around and going, okay, not so bad. 58 Approval Rating. And good economic news. Its all not only does he enjoy it, swagger he has, he says this is so easy how come you cant do this, hillary . He likes traking trump apart bu he loves showing how much better he is at this than hillary. The distance between him and how he articulates and prosecutes the case against trump and her is very effective. He can have a lot more fun and be a lot looser. I dont think she views it as a competition between i mean, listen, i think she should get a doctors note saying its contagious and needs ten more days in bed and hes superb on
the stump. The president s line in the speech yesterday was let me get this straight, one Foundation Gives out money and saves peoples lives and others uses the money to buy a sixfoot portrait of himself. Clinton folks try to say hes ridiculous but president obama tried to show how hes ridiculous. Politics is so basic. Any story telling. Show, dont tell. He does it intuitivy. Vladimir putin on staterun television when you have the president of the United States saying going on staterun television and talking down our military, hes a strong surrogate. The trigger line in the clips we showed. Vladimir putin has 82 Approval Rating. Saddam hussein had a 90 Approval Rating. Everyone gets that. Trump benefits from her inability to make the case as
president obama did. Theres an argue case she should be making. Donald trump hit back at the president posting on twitter, russia took crimea during the socalled obama years. Who wouldnt know this and why does obama get a free pass . I dont get that. And also he said this. Why isnt president obama working instead of campaigning for Hillary Clinton . Zinger, howard dean. I would also like to argue in terms of these surrogates doing such a good job making the case against donald trump, i think Hillary Clinton ought to do something that a lot of women are really bad at and she ought to talk about herself. She has a lot to say about what shes done and about what she can do, and quite frankly, i think america is ready and it is time and refreshing to hear a woman saying heres what i can bring to the table and say it in
a way that really penetrates the voting electorates minds and makes them realize theres someone really qualified here, someone that will stand up for you in a way that connects. Women struggle with this. Especially in this kind of race where you have to constantly go after donald trump. You forget to talk about yourself. That is incredibly insightful. I have to say. I really do. The thing that makes me that i think about immediately is where sort of the feminism or whatever you want to call it is. Hillary is the generation of slaughter who wrote a great book about this which is insightful and then comes Sheryl Sandburg 25 years younger and has a very different experience and i think the younger millennials have even a different experience. Young women today because things have changed so much and the
point you just made is extraordinary. I havent really thought about it before. Its true. Historically women, especially of my generation, dont like to talk about themselves. The truth is im not saying this for partisan reasons for a change, the truth is it makes them really good managers and it makes them able to do things that men cant do where their egos get in the way. Team players. All that stuff. Thats an extraordinary you said something important. Thats something that you do all the time when you go to your value conferences, you always tell women its a generational thing. We cant talk about ourselves. We dont talk ourselves up but we talk up our coworkers. We talk up people our children, our families. We fight for everybody else. Were less comfortable when we Start Talking about ourselves. She has to find a way to do it. Heres how i have fiercely defended children across the
country since i was 25 years old. Heres how i have fiercely defended veterans. Heres how i have fiercely defended this country and represented the state of new york. Heres how as secretary of state theres an incredible list of accomplishments. Shes got to nail them. You can take a negative and turn it into a positive. Yes, i fiercely defended my husband. Some people think i went too far. You know what, maybe i did. After all weve been through. After all of the years, were still together and you know what . I am so sorry for mistakes i made but my instinct is always to fiercely defend my husband, to fiercely defend my children, and to fiercely defend your children and everybody elses children. Here are some emails where i working on a, b and c and where i went to this country and dug in on d, e and f. Look at my emails. Look at all of the work ive been doing. Thats one of the keys, i
think. If you talk to a lot of people, you get the sense thats one of the keys. Its what we talked about yesterday. The baggage that comes with the clintons. 30 years worth of baggage. When she talks about her husband, she frames it up as we. I agree with you, joe. She should say i. I made a decision to stay with my husband. I love my husband. Is it a problem that she also made the decision to protect her privacy . Its not that she doesnt show us good things. Its that she doesnt show us anything. The instinct is to hunker down this way and hide. I dont think she has a 60 sense among voters, all voters, not just republicans that she doesnt tell the truth because she doesnt. Ive been to all of your conferences. I cant do it. Its hard to advocate on your own behalf. Mike and i have the same problem. Thats why we keep going. We guys dont like talking about ourselves. The other coin is because she cant do that, its not that she doesnt make her own case, people suspect shes hiding something bad. Theres an incredibly long list, decades of work that shes done. She should be proud of it. She should be nailing it. Thats Something Else she does too. She hasnt said this yet. Just like i fiercely defended my husband in the 90s, i did that first. I asked questions later. I got embarrassed. We all got embarrassed. We fought through it together on these emails i made a mistake. You know what . My family has been attacked for 35 years by right wing republicans. My child has been hurt by attacks against our family by right wing republicans. They take you know, they called my husband a murderer in the 1990s. Now they call me killry. These are people on the same night that barack obama, first night a black men in history was sworn in and were trying to figure out a way to destroy him. Maybe i was too aggressive in protecting my family and myself. While i was doing this, these are things i also was doing. The question is how receptive are people to hearing that . The frustration they have is this campaign is off. The coverage of it, the tone of it, its kind of a joke. If she were to prosecute a case of what shes done, shes done that effectively but getting people to Pay Attention to it. Bring donald trump into it. Bring in the shiny object. How about do a time line, when i was 22 i was already doing this. Donald trump was doing this. When i was 24 i was graduating from this and i was already
doing this. Donald trump was doing this. By the time i was 30, i was doing this. I would hammer it home every day. Her career is incredible. What mika is talking about is exactly right. What shes talking about jim is right in the sense that the stage has been set. She can change that narrative. She has to control the narrative. Trump has been controlling the narrative since the beginning of the campaign how he beat 16 other republicans. Most of whom were Better Qualified than he is to be president of the United States. Mikas point is not only do women not like to talk about themselves particularly in that generation but in order to talk about yourself, in order to control the narrative, you have to be able to talk about yourself. You guys are dead on. You know, i think this is an extraordinary thing to think about. I dont think its been explored very much during the campaign partly because she hasnt controlled the narratives and she needs to do it and she needs to talk about herself. I hate to say this, joe, but i actually think you could be her speech writer. Its exactly what she should be saying. Im sure you dont want that job. Im just saying ive gone to mikas know your value conferences and im struggling through my fears to talk about myself. Im getting there. Dont act like joe. As we go to break here before we do, a couple weeks ago in washington, d. C. I asked everybody where do you think the race is at this point. It was end of august. I said it was a tossup. Its a tossup now. Two weeks later, its amazing the bad run shes had, the good run hes had as far as being more disciplined than before. You know, i guess the usc tracking poll yesterday had trump up by three points. I think what were going to see in the coming weeks, well see a
lot of those races tighten up. Youll see ohio probably tighten and maybe go in duonald trumps favor by a couple points. I mean, this race is getting tighter by the day. I cant imagine any debate in president ial history this side of the 1960 debate and 1980 debate between carter and reagan being bigger than this one. The race is basically a tie now, isnt it . I dont know if i totally agree with it. On a National Level it looks like its a tie. If you look that he cant win virginia, colorado or new hampshire. Make this race very, very, very difficult for a republican to win. Dont you think those state polls tighten up . If you take colorado and virginia, two states that should be swing states. Theres a big gap right there. Even if it tightens, theres an advantage for Hillary Clinton. You look at the maine poll in
the boston globe that has maine tied and bloomberg shows trump up in ohio. You say maine is tied. And then in ohio he went up three in the bloomberg poll this morning. I didnt know about those polls. I would put the money on Hillary Clinton. Do you have a pile of money . When i do, i would put it on Hillary Clinton to win. We were talking about this off set for debates. If i was donald trump, i would go off like rocky did in rocky iii and train in a barn for three weeks getti inting ready that debate. If he could exceed his expectations, if he did his homework i dont think he will. I think he can. I think hes going to surprise a lot of people. I think expectations are low. Lets put up that maine poll again. 1984 the last time a republican
won maine. Maybe 41 won maine in 88. Howard, mike, since you are the only ones along with me old enough to remember this, i hate to keep going back to it, but people forget what a joke Ronald Reagan was perceived by elites all over america. He was a clown in their eyes. That debate with jimmy carter was won as much on expectations as anything else. People this is a problem. You paint donald trump as this crazy maniac thats going to start world war iii. He guess out and looks rationale for two hours. Hes not that bad. I think that was probably the biggest fear of the Clinton Campaign that if donald trump in the first debate doesnt like the stage on fire, he wins because of the expectations are so low for him. If hes able to give the
impression that hes a moderate, sensible, not a loud mouth, not a crazy person, because of the expectations game, hes going to do fine. Its all expectations. It is. Obviously theres a very different standard that Hillary Clinton is held to because shes been in politics for 30 years and so forth and trump has held low expectations. Trump has done well on a teleprompter. Theres no teleprompter in the debate. He doesnt know whats coming next. He doesnt control the narrative. So theres a big difference between Ronald Reagan its true what you said. The elite in washington, Ronald Reagan, my god, Ronald Reagan was governor of the largest state in the country for eight years. That should get you fairly close to being able to actually compete well in the presidency. Im talking about again expectations. The media painted reagan as such
a dunce that he exceeded expectations and made all the difference in the world. Although i think hillary has a core to her of things that she deeply believes in. She doesnt always express them as well as she could. Im just thinking of the reagan versus carter and the way it looked on stage. Reagan is this big guy. Carter immersed in policy is struggling and country isnt feeling good about itself. I think the country is feeling better about itself. If it wasnt, barack obama wouldnt be at 58 . Its a little bit different. Reagan is a much more substantial person than donald trump is. When we come back, howard mentioned it. Huge economic news. Of course there are some dark sides to the economy still as everybody reported on this yesterday suggested. Man, family incomes rise after a
lull. Over 5 . I think its the biggest jump in mod he were history. Income still below where they were in 2008 but what a great advance for the ameri