Welcome, welcome, welcome so much. Its great to have you here. Lets talk about everything thank you so much for being here. I am not contagious. Just for your information. You are feeling much better, is that correct . Absolutely. Nothing like a little rest when your doctor tells you to do that. Good morning. Its tuesday september 20th. Welcome to morning joe. She was healthy. Looking fine, right . Willie is here. Welcome back. We missed you. Where are you been . Upstairs, across the street. They run you ragged. I come in and they tell me to go. Mike barnicle is here. The best. Nicole wallace, and jon meacham, and David Ignatius. So much going on. Just out this morning the latest nbc News Survey Monkey online poll Shows Hillary clinton leading. Up five points, 50 to 45. This is how topsyturvy this has been. Yes i felt like there was going to be a counter and i didnt expect it this fast. We have other polls that show she is doing pretty darn well. Everything will reset on tuesday, after the debate. I dont know when the dates of the polling ended, but the impact of the events over the weekend here in new york city,
you dont know i dont now how that impacts peoples feelings. Lester holt will be talking front and center about terrorism, and we will have to see whose advantage that works to. Clinton is within striking distance in georgia as well, and inside the margin of error. Thats a tie. Striking distance in a state a democrat has not won in 50 years, and a new poll shows trump trails 51 to 30 as of this morning in new york. Theres weeping and gnashing of teeth and people wearing sack cloth over the last week saying
donald trump was going to be president of the United States. And you heard its over, and i just love those maps they do in september. Those maps in september are worthless, but it does look right now like theres a slight push back by supporters of hillary . She had one of the roughest stretches of the general election cycle in the post labor day period, and she had put together and executed a near flawless convention, and that bump coupled with his disastrous summer coupled with the labor day. I think if you are a trump supporter, you are happy he called it a bomb before anybody else did, and if you are a clinton supporter you were pleased and reassured to see her
wrafpet up her talk. The fbi is set to resume their investigation into the suspect caught this weekends bombings. He is being treated after being shot. He was charged with five counts of attempted murder of a Law Enforcement officer and two counts of a weapon. The two officers shot by raw mommy. Officer hammer is being kept for observation after a bullet grazed his head. So the politics of counterterrorism dominated the race for the white house yesterday as Hillary Clinton and donald trump, as nicole
mentioned, contrasted their domestic threats. We have to hit them much harder over there, and you know, our local p police are amazing and they dont want to be accused of profiling. But israel has done an unbelievable job and they profile. They see somebody suspicious, they will profile and take that person and check out, do we have a choice . Look what is going on. Do we really have a choice, and were trying to be so politically correct in our country and this is only going to get worse. We will have to do something extremely tough over there. Like what . Like knock the hell out of them. Were not knocking them, hitting every once in a while and being very gentle about it, and were going to have to be tough. I have been very clear, were
going after the bad tpwaoeuz and we are going to get them but we are not going to go after an entire religion and give isis what its wanting in order for them to enhance their possession. We know Donald Trumps comments have been used online for recruitment of terrorists. We have heard that from former cia director michael hayden, who made it a very clear point when he said that donald trump is being used as a recruiting sergeant for the terrorists. We also know from the former head of our counterterrorism center, matt olson, that the kinds of rhetoric and language that mr. Trump has used is giving aid and comfort to our adversaries. So Mike Barnicle you have two distinct views of counterterrorism there, and
donald trump being asked, i think on fox friends, and he is saying, we have to hit him hard, and what is your policy, knock the hell out of them, and i am not sure they teach that at west point as a counter measure. The Law Enforcement officers knew who these people were but were scared to get them, and that tends to be an insult to the nypd. I think its important to stop here and take note of the uninformed talk from donald trump. The Deputy Commissioner had to do with the intelligence, and
within 24 hours, the combination of the new york city and the fbi and the new Jersey Police departments involved they tracked down and apprehended the suspect. No cop is afraid to do this. Willie, an extraordinary job by the nypd. Within 24 hours, and yet you have a president ial candidate out there saying these guys knew who they were. This doesnt have to happen and they are being politically correct. If they know who they are, they would have stopped the bombing . We have come to expect an utter lack of policy prescription, so when he says knock the hell out of them, thats what he is saying, and its new for him to accuse the Police Departments and Law Enforcement and the fbi and those that cracked the case in 38 hours total. It gets to the daily and hourly work that the fbi all of them the do on a daily bases, the plots and the people have apprehended and stopped, who is known to us, and David Ignatius, you know a bit about this as we do here. Can you speak to this issue. I think you put it exactly right. The big takeaway of the story to me is the efficiency with which police and Law Enforcement in new york and new jersey were able to close in and the action of responsibility citizens. Secretary clinton talked about the need not to cower or be resilient, and talking about citizens taking appropriate action when they saw threatening objects, and trump goes for the sound bite. In counterterrorism, everybody i talk to says the key to
effective work are muslim communities in the United States, and thats the only chance we have to see people before they act. They are not in touch with al qaeda central or with isis in raqqa, for the most part, and they are lone wolves and its the community on which we depend and the comments about profiling makes american muslims think we are a different set of americans and maybe people think we dont have a stake in that, and thats going to hurt. Jon meacham . I think david is right, and one thing we can say about the 2016 election, theres not a lot of ambiguity, right . We know the choices. Its the gut versus the brain. As i was watching the duelling statements yesterday thinking about the moment in the first debate with romney four years ago, remember when romney came out and was a mission
impossible guy, and he ripped a mask off and was different than he had been, and thats not going to happen here, and trump is trump and hillary is hillary, and i think the country will have to make will have the ability to make a clear choice here. I wonder what you make of this. At his rally in florida yesterday donald trump offered his critical take on the local process that will follow the capture of bombing suspect. Today we have caught the evil thug, thank you, Law Enforcement. Now for the bad part. We will give him amazing hospitalization. He will be taken care of by some of the best doctors in the world. He will be given a fully modern and updated hospital room, and
hell probably even have room service knowing the way our country is. On top of all of that, he will be represented by an outstanding lawyer. His case will go through the various Court Systems for years, and in the end people will forget and his punishment will not be what it once would have been. What a sad situation. We must have speedy but fair trials, and we must deliver a just and very harsh punishment to these people. What do you say to Something Like that . What do you say . He is in the hospital and being treated and he will inbound a prison or jail infirmry, and
its such nonsense. What donald trump is saying, maybe that was what he was saying for real, maybe just a rif, a stupid and irresponsible rif, and sometimes he does that and i wonder what he means what he says and sometimes i think he is damaging and i expressed myself that i worry that these rifs are damaging, but when the campaign writes that, thats what you are voting for republicans . Republicans, thats what you are voting for . We did thats what you are voting for and got . By the way, they are not pampered. Donald trump should try going to where this guy is going to go, and i dont think does he want it to be russia . I dont know donald trump would want the same public whoever the lawyer is going to be, and its going to be a public defender most likely, and i dont think donald trump would want the state picking on a low hourly rate his attorney. I would like to ask donald j. Trump this question, after they shot and wounded him, they cuffed him. I bet he said, that hurts. Do you think the cops cared . Hes not pampered or babies . I think he does say things impossible to respond to. And we are just watching from the sidelines, and she is running a wild scoundrel who is proudly keeping his taxes to himself and boasts about buying political influence from the
politicians of both sides of the aisle and says irresponsible things and yet in the moment he is close to her in the battleground states, and she has pulled ahead in the national polling, and there are some things he says to some people the answer to the way debates have gone, and she is responding kind. Shortly after new york governor and former prosecutor, like we needed a voice of reason here, but we will take one, but andrew cuomo responded. Welcome to america, right . We have a system of jurisprudence, and you are innocent until Proven Guilty and you have a right to counsel and a right to hospitalization if you are ill. That is our system. Its what makes this Country Special and what makes this country great. Sometimes the government is wrong and thats why we
judicial process and trials and hearings and et cetera. I dont know what the alternative would be, unless you said we should have a government that on their own belief is judge and jury and execution or all in one. Could be like putin and could just, you know, shoot people that you dont like. Journalists this is not funny. That happens. You can shoot Business People you dont like, just kill them all. Thats one vision of how you do it. I think most americans are comfortable how we have been doing it over 240 years. Still billionaires get off the bench and can they help put donald trump over the top . Later, congressman adam schiff,
and senator rand paul who is working to block a billion dollar sale of american weapons to saudi arabia. Looks like the ceasefire is already breaking down, and we will get the latest bad news there. If there are any chances at all of reviving that seat ficeasef. We needed the rain in the east and we did get it. The drought in the northeast has been well documented this summer, and this fall, we are heading into it this week, and theres heavier rain around Virginia Beach and we have a flood watch in effect from that area. Most of the rain will be cut off around the norfolk area, and today the other story, we only have two more full days of summer here and theres no relief from the heat whatsoever. A hot end of summer forecast. Today in the 80s or 90s from denver to dallas and 98 today. About 10 to 12 degrees above average, and cleveland at 84, and boston and d. C. At 82. As we head into toerpblmorrow, last full day of summer, the 90s spread around the country. Thats as far as forecast is going to go and as far as the rain goes, by 5 00, its still in areas of virginia. The only wet weather will be found in areas of florida and along the midatlantic coast. Washington, d. C. , clouds will keep you on the cooler side today, but you will be dry and should be nice this afternoon. You work at ge . Yeah, i do. You guys are working on some pretty big stuff over there, right . Like a new language for crazybig, worldchanging machi well, not me specifically. I work on the industrial side. So i build the worldchanging machines. I get it. You cant lk because its super highlevel. No, i actually do build the machines blink if what youre doing involves encrypted data tra. Wait, wh . Wowwww. Wo what wow . There is no wow. Theya engine revs things about rain. Like how harits gonna fall. engine revs the things it does to your parade. Weve got a saying about rain, too when it rains. It roars. The allwheeldrive charger. Domestic. Not domesticated
madam secretary i love you, andrea. You are my kind of woman. I will tell you. Look at this. Hillary clinton made new moves yesterday in hopes of winning back young voters. The latest National Quinnipiac poll shows clinton lost 17 points with the voters between the ages of 18 and 34 and most of that going to gary johnson, and thats why millennials were
of the top of mind for the democratic nominee yesterday. She was down 17 points over the last month with millennials . Yeah. She is at 31 this month, minus 17. Gary johnson picks up 13 from 16 to 29. Thats crazy. And stein got the other 4 . If i am in the white house, young people will always have a seat at any table, where any decision is being made. I worked with Bernie Sanders on a plan. We came up with a plan that makes Public College tuition free for working families and debt free for everyone. I do spend a lot of time on the details of policy, like the
precise Interest Rate on your Student Loans, right down to the decimal. But thats because its not a detail for you, its a big deal. Of course, politics can be discouraging. This election in particular, can be down right depressing sometimes. This is going to be close. We need to be everybody off the sidelines, and not voting is not an option and it plays into trumps hands. It really does. Its so tough when you want the kids to come to you. I have seen tv networks before that said i know how we are going to get millennials, we will have young bloggers host shows. And it does not work. You know, one of my favorite over the last five or ten years, one of my favorite examples of how that is such Stupid Networktv thinking is bob schafer, 72 years old, wins the demo, right . Chris matthews is huge among college campuses. They love hardball. And Bernie Sanders, best example, a 74yearold, a rock star. Yeah. I dont know. If you are Hillary Clinton, how do you reach out to millennials, i dont know saying we are going to have young people at the tables they dont go to tables anymore. They skype. Online. And yeah, president obama at the congressional black caucus, and i think his message was spot on and this must be an area, and joe biden speaks well to young
people and young families, and president obama has gone out and created the vote. Has bernie worked that hard enough . I dont know that his supporters buy his sale. Obama mentioned saturday night, if you care about me and michelle, dont let us walk into the sunset and protect my legacy and the voters available to her will be responsive to that message. What a surprise that gary johnson, after fumbling a basic question about one of the most depressing Foreign Policy debacles of alltime picks up 14 points with millennials . He is cool and climbs mountain he smokes a lot of pot. He also smokes a lot of pot, it is said. I think Hillary Clinton is not entirely convincing pitching for young voters, but shes doing exactly what she needs to do. She has to speak to this grab. Young voters do care about Student Loans. I think the biggest mistake she could make is to sound phoney, and thats the impression i have, trying to be pandering to kids and saying a lyric from a rock song or something, and i think shes trying to do what she needs to do, and just to go back to our earliest discussion, the most interesting number i saw in the last 24 hours is a fox news poll that says 61 of those polled believe Hillary Clinton is qualified to be president , and only 45 believe donald trump is, and thats the number that comes into play when we have events like the terrorism incident in new york, and i think thats what shes got to lean on, is that basic bedrock feeling. Shes done it and this other guy hasnt. Willwillie, you cant be
condescending. I always used to do that to joey, and i would walk in and say, hey, guys, you have listened to the strobe lately. Yeah, and saw especially with google. I think over 55 want change and those are the cross pressures she faces. Its not just think millennials dont think Hillary Clinton is cool, and in the polls the numbers are in the low 20s when she says what she believes, and thats the lowest among the millennials. Theres the Bernie Sanders affect, and they did think he was straightforward. The person you want to go to when it comes to millennials is jon meacham, because he will find a boring historical parallel that will put them all
to sleep. When millennials were voting on the indian french war, support tended to be a little low. You have the most packaged candidate in modern memory in many ways with secretary clinton and the most provocative with trump. I think i dont think the age group is going to be that different throughout. Joe, i remember it has been 12 years, god help us, sitting with you in midtown, and you said, you know, if the young voters show up, if young voters had shown up we would be talking about president kerry, so what is it . Every campaign tends to count on some sort of las