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MSNBCW Morning Joe September 8, 2017

Right now irma is about twice the size. It could be andrewlike but bigger. A lot of the northern islands, we still have this horrendous video, barbuda, they say 65 of the homes cant be occupied. This is before the eye went over the turks and caicos for four straight hours. Were still waiting for reports and at daylight we can find out just how bad ffs as they went through the northern eye wall. Heres the latest on the storm. Theres the clear eye. The thing that developed last night is it was start to develop an eye wall replacement sickle. There as a nashville is starting to take over. That has reduced the intensity down to a category four. Thats good, we want a weaker storm but if it does the eye wall cycle, it can regenerate before it gets to the coast. It could easily be a five at landfall. Here is a clear picture of the zoomed in eye. This is Crooked Island here in the southern bahamas. Lets get to the allimportant pass of the storm. This is the critical time here, 2 a. M. Sunday. You notice the cone, still a very slim chance it misses to the east and to the west. Florida is right in the direct center of cone. We dont know yet will this shift a little bit to the west and be a wrs blow more storm and they have tornadoes ahead in area of the east. A lot of people have been to West Palm Beach, if youve been standing on the ba picturing where you were standing, ten feet of water, another five to six feet with dre from miami to Fort Lauderdale and all the way through the keys. We till get five to taken feet and weve been doing this for the laos couple of dawes commonwealth are can the jefr glades covers this section here. If the american model happens, thats a more damages path right through southeast florida, mika. There are still some questions to be answered. Were about 48 hours away from the landfall. Also, a massive earthquake off the coast of mexico. What else, right . I know. This was just off the south shore of mexico. It was relatively shallow. There were tsunami warnings up overnight. The highest i heard of was about a threefoot tsunami. 8. 1 are very rare. Usually on this planet we only get about one per year. Anything near the epicenter they consider it violent to severe shaking and all the structures and pictures you see here, when we get to daylight, i think these pictures will get about a hundred times worse. Bill karins, thank you. With us on morning joe, we are Mark Halperin, John Heilemann and in washington nbc news capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt joins us. Joe, this morning the pending strike from irma, the heavy toll left by Hurricane Harvey weighing over capitol hill. Todays the house votes on a plan that guarantees nearly 8 with 17 votes against, all from republicans. What were doing in this body today is not draining the swamp. What were doing is running a whole bunch of hoses to the edge of the swamp, turning them on to the highest possible volume flow and turning our backs and shouting your stnts know who prngs made himself the most powerful man in america for december. Chuck schumer and nancy pelosi now is most of the cards. I was a little surprised quite frankly. I think negotiating against ourselves, now other than that, sprchs and i think he did what he thought was right and he didnt talk to a lot of people. Still, the president savored the deal. Politico reporting he was upbeat and Chuck Schumer and nancy pelosi thursday morning, iium fl and indicated hed been watching. And he referred to democratic sfrm senator schumer and it was a very bipartisan meeting. We could have done a longer deal th that. F sintity andys to frp it was a meeting that we all wanted to get together and do something. I think the primary reason is you look at north career,ia, at the hurricanes and i said frankly its time that we walk out and shake hand and have a deal. And they agreed and i will tell you, there was a lot of spirit in that room, a lot of good spirit. And, willie, you look at Health Insurance happening with north korea, you look at whats happening with irma, you look at whats happened of course out in texas, you look at the debt ceiling fight, you look at all the other things that are lined up in front of this congress i do agree with ben sass but this is a repeal that but actual will find is vote somewhere frrnl sfurjs angry that a republicancontrolled promise couldnt get through a seg sure promise and his signature promise federal budget frngs by the way as we were watching the peech, there was. I understand why raspberry are upset about it, if but for all nuchlt. Bipartisanship. Thats what happened a couple days ago. The democrats got together with the rab president to get something done, to help people in exas. It, if ship mere. We dont need the government to shut down. Its almost like this happened and a lot of people didnt know what to do with themselves because everybodys gone to their corners for showing that when you actually have a republican president and democrat being leaders talking together, it still doesnt rojster, but ill say it again. For americans who are like running to pick up their kids school and then running home and ten running back to work and they just hear on the news republican president got together with Democratic Leaders, to make sure america doesnt republican. Ands that what donald trump thought when he hit the newsstand were getting. I reached across the aisle. Case in point, many surprise about the president tweeting, f for, if between the house and the house moochbl immigrants, andy did with that tweet. She called this morning. I said thanks for calling. People need reassurance from you, mr. President , that the sixmonth period is not a period of round. I reported to my colleagues and boom, boochl, boom, the tweets appeared. So that was good. And humor has removed a rule peacekeepers. I agreed to come to thefrnl conservative republicans. If he works with fwrchl, the established likes other me jol ji. Sfrnl halloween, if the president works with democrats and maybe iion. In ang ffrpgs nfrm, the publicsin bt nchblt they really, truly never saiding in nnk bare guess who was there. Donald trump. This is not easy to figure out. And paul ryan has given frfrm. In is. Just totally confused as to what happened because they never had one. They need to say it when its wrong. When charlotte still happens, they need it say it. N because us that how who work, if, if its not about insult. Votes they said they were going to be able to dofr. F, almost getting things done sound dirt oo f ideology aside. 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And there he is. There are another kruts in ticket, that, in can got votes and they are sm things. Cram fruchlt. Hard to imagine, we had 20, 30 democrats voting with us. You had to write tax reform, not something that just is a giveaway to theismest american prngs, youll get 300350 people voting on it. There are deals to frnl frm and you know what . One of the reasons why donald trump may have given up on the republicans, because it is fchls. And so everything weve heard from him, you got the votes. You got to start with health care. Im not mocking him. Im trying to plane the moment of donald trump. Y department wrote im going to completely flip and become a kate men o. So for seven or amonths well know this will be a real thing or not, will he give the democrats what they want and daca . And you think most obvious will he give them what they want on tax reform . Dick durbin made it clear yesterday hes willing to work with the president on tax reform. And changing it will make the healthy relieved. Still ahead,er governor jb mau maush. Well be right back. Steve bannon may be out of the white house but his impact is certainly be felt. According to reports, he still offers outside advice to the president and he has new and blistering commentary for Mitch Mcconnell in an interview with 60 minutes. The republican establishment is trying to nullify the 2016 election. Thats a brutal fact we have to face. Republicans. The republicans are trying to nullify the 2016 elections. Who . I think mish tch mcconnell a to an extent paul ryan. Its as obvious as night follows day. Give me a story that illustrates that. Mitch mcconnell said i think in one of the first meetings in trump tower with the president as we were wrapping up, he said i dont want to hear any more of this drain the swamp talk. He goes a guy up on capitol hill cant buy a coke unless its got to be reported, i cant hire any smart people because everybodys all over him for the pay, for the scrutiny. You got to back off that. The drain the swamp thing with Mitch Mcconnell was day one, did not want us to go there, wanted to us back off. You are attacking on many front people who you need to help you. Theyre not going to help you unless theyre put on notice theyre going to be held accountable if they do not support the president of the United States. They do not support the president s program. Everybody in the city knows it. And so, therefore, now that youre out of the white house, youre going to war with him . Absolutely. All right. John heilemann, absolutely. John heilemann, its funny how that interviews aged in just a couple of days because you can look at that now and say two days ago, everybody would be oh, its horrible, theyre attacking mitch now you look at it and go that steve bannon, even though he doesnt like the policy probably loves that donald trump stuck it to Mitch Mcconnell and paul ryan. People told me around bannon that the guy would love donald trump to be an independent president. He certainly took a step closer to that by the triangulation routine he did a couple of days ago. That is a man who has been liberated. You can say he got fired and can be liberated. This is stuff hes been saying privately and publicly for years. Hes a true believer in his vision of nationalist, populist, not partisan politics. I actually think probably hes better suited into this role that hes now in and just being an outsider, a bomb throw are,nd i have no doubt he has more antipathy for ryan and shum are and hed be perfectly happy to see donald trump make deals with democrats on things like infrastructure, on tax reform that was tough on the rich. The idea that there is just going to be a straight forward tax cut that gives breaks to rich people is nol if thin trade and other issues, too. You can almost see Steve Bannons glee after being out of the white house. Remember that first interview he said, yot, i have my weapons being. They talked to kone. Particularly as it relates to congress. Its an odd mentality for an equal branch that is first supposed to be loyal to the president. Look, what steve bannon said there about Mitch Mcconnell i find to be incredibly interesting and the fact that he would share that story publicly will get the backs up among those folks. He said essentially that the majority leader feels he cant get anything done, he cant hire good, smart people. Its very easy to deliver these lines, drain the swamp, throw them all out. Its terrible. Country Needs Congress to be charles ear dent Just Announced hes not going to seek his eighth term in congress. Thats another person who wants to get these things done and, frankly, he is reflecting deep and more of them will are pushed to leave and honestly the government potentially breaks. Mika if you look at where we are as a country, where congress is an institution, we talked about it for a very long time. Were no longer at the place where tip oneill controls all the democrats and bob michaels controls the republicans, you have to deal with those two people. You now have over 500 independent actors. So donald trump is much more likely to be able to go al a carte. I can get tax increases maybe ill go a little more bannons way. Maybe i wont just give tax cuts to the richest of the rich. So you can pick up some democrats in one vote that you cant pick up in the next vote. You have that freedom because theyre all independent actors now. And the loyalty oath, i mean, i think can you tell whos taken it and you end up looking weak and pathetic actually. Its not about loyalty. But chuck and nancy didnt tab the loyalty oath and theyre doing just fine today. You might want to give it. The reason why is at the can and most republicans are going to stay with donald trump because as he has seen, most of his base stays with donald trump when he makes deal. That allows his base to go on twitter and say, youve got a law that donald trump can sign. That formula works every time. Coming up, the Hurricane Irma is wider that be the entire state of florida and people are being told to get out. Well have an update on the drp eric wallwell who says negotiations are under way as far as syria is concerned, we have very little to do with syria other than killing isis. What we do is we kill isis and we have succeeded in that respect. We have done better in eight months of my presidency than the previous eight years of isis. So isis is rapidly disappearing, as you know, and thats because of our great military. The militarys been absolutely incredible in terms of what theyve done with isis in iraq and in syria. Joining us now, columnist and associate editor for the Washington Post David Ignatius. Joe, take it away. So, david, lets put that in perspective. Theres no doubt that the Obama Administration was ramping up, a problem that some of us had been ignored for too long, and were starting a campaign that was very effective, james mattis came in and they continued on that success. Tell us where we are now in our fight against isis and parse Donald Trumps words for us if you will and tell us whats right and whats not right. President trump is basically right in saying that the campaign against isis has been accelerated. The pace of operations under obama was increasing but hes really delegated command authority down the commanders in a way thats had a lot of impact. The Administration Just this week has made a decision thats going to be very important, which is that after the u. S. And the socalled Syrian Democratic forces, the kurdishled militia has what been sweeping through raqqa and central state, when theyre done with raqqa, theyre going to go further south to the lower euphrates. In the southeast corner. Its very strategics, the area iran would love to dominate. Secretary mattis and tillerson have made a decision to go further. I think thats reinforcing the president s confidence on this main part of the mission hes going to keep going and get it done. Let me ask you about something you brought up. It reminds me of an argument i read before where donald trump was asked about a certain campaign, should they go into a village and he said, well, what do the people on the ground say and they gave him advice. He said, well, why are you asking me they or there . Donald trump was criticized by some for doing that but that seems to be the antithesis of what we were taught growing up that the vietnam war was a nightmare because you had the Lyndon Johnson at night looking for targets to bomb. Whats the pentagons attitude towards the president s handson approach of operations . I like it. Ive heard 50 times complaints about the degree to which decisions were subject to 11th hour review in the situation room, interagency discussions. Command authority really has been pushed down in this fight since trump took office. Its allowed more flexibility in operations and more Rapid Movement in syria. You have to remember eight months ago when President Trump took office, it wasnt entirely clear that we had a force that had a that force came together, moved quickly. I was just in syria in july and saw the way in which our special forces are able to move and adapt as the battle situation changes. So a lot of problems with President Trumps syria strategy. In fact, some people think its not a Clear Strategy for the future of syria at all. On this particular part, lets go do isis i think the president basically is telling us whats going on. Hey, david, its willie. The president had that joint press conference and he made pretty clear the military options are on the table for north korea. And you made point thoo tat the president had been talking, talking, talking for 25 years and that none that had worked. Im not suggesting there should be a military strike but isnt he correct that all the talking hasnt yielded much

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