Talking about george papadakolas. You can look at the photographs with high meetings. Do we have that photograph . I have to tell you, in criminology, mike barnical, you look at these things to see who is in power, man, the attorney general on one side, the president of the United States who is going to be the president , obviously, and right in the middle. Boom. The man of the moment. There he is, right there. Papadopoulos. The story of the day good morning, everyone, its tuesday, october 31st. Its a scary day for a lot of people, happy halloween, with us, we have veteran columnist and msnbc contributor, Mike Barnicle. Are you skard in. Im frightened to death. Freaked out, boo National Security analyst and former chief of staff at the cia and department of defense jeremy bash and in walk, White House Reporter for usa today heidi pryzbila. Good morning to you all. I want to start with this, its really interesting, we have been hearing from critics of the special counsel from Robert Mueller that theyre leakers. They leak like this then you get the first indictments out and trump and everybody else, oh, this has nothing to do with the campaign and then bomb. Then we get the other shoe drops and my gosh, you sit there going, wait, they arrested anyone . When and theyve held et for this long. It shows bob mueller runs an extraordinarily tight ship. He does an manafort and gates have gotten target letters. Since the news got out on friday, everybody in washington was wondering who it might be. Manafort was on almost everybodys guest list. When the news hit 90 minutes later that George Papadopoulos was charged and therefore pled guilty and committing of a crime to the feds. That shows that bob mueller had not only one scalp but he actually now had a major cooperating witness. Well get to the manafort witness. Perhaps the most Surprising Development yesterday was the third man charged. One who has admitted to crimes and is cooperating with the governments investigation. Gorge papadopoulos admitted to lying in its investigation in the russian interference in the 2016 election. Yesterdays revelation shows he was arrested more than three months ago on july 27th and pled guilty october 5th a. Court filing says he told the fbi that he had communicated with an overseas professor whom he understood to have substantial ties to russian government officials, before he became a Foreign Policy adviser to the Trump Campaign and that papadopoulos had knowledge about the russians possessing quote dirt on then candidate Hillary Clinton in the form of thousands of emails ball before joining the campaign. But in truth, papadopoulos learned he would be an ad advisor to the campaign in early march of 2016 and met the professor later, due to his status with the campaign t. Filing says the professor told him about the thousands of emails on or about april 2016 after he had been a Foreign Policy adviser to the campaign for over a month. To review the time line, that is a month after Clinton Campaign chairman John Podestas emails were hacked and nearly two months before the first dnc hack was made public and three months before President Trump made this joke. Russia, if you are listening, i hope youre able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. But i dont think it was a joke actually. Yeah. It seemed like an ad mission. Whats the impact . When you are looking at this and you look at everything thats happened, the hacking, the release of the emails through wikileaks, the meeting with the russian lawyer in don juniors office, donald trump lying, orchestrating the big lie about that meeting, where does this all fit in to the overarching narrative . Well, it shows, joe, how aggressive russian intelligence was at not only engaging a propaganda during the campaign. There was a lot of information in the intelligence communitys assessment in january of this year. Now we are learning much up more about their agents, how they handled, spotted, assessed, recruited and hand himmed their agents. I think we need to do air quotes, he clearly was a russian intelligence operative, a cutout, someone recruited by the Russian Intelligence Services to handle an asset deep inside the Trump Campaign . Thigh found a mark, someone who sits in National Security interests. He showed an interest in getting dirt from a russian entity about Hillary Clinton plain and simple. There are so many marks. We dont hear this with the chinese, with other countries. And you have a candidate all the time who just loves russia. The first two people i think he listed with Washington Post in that Editorial Board meeting, carter page and this guy, both of them were detected with russia. You look at the National Security adviser, flynn is, gets paid. This is one after another after another. This is a huge case, obviously, there is a window that opens a little. I will give you insight the papadopoulos window is huge. How does the special prosecutor get to him . Who tips them off . The fact that there is july to october that there is no word that the indictment has been handed down and that the plea is listed. That shows the special prosecutor is both aggressive, incredibly tightly you know held information and the papadopoulos information has one key word that should frighten everyone in the white house, that key word is guilty. Heidi, your thoughts on this i should point out, so much criticism. You had donald trump on the show so much during the campaign. He came on our show, we questioned him repeatedly on russia and repeatedly on tape there is this president then candidate just refusing even in the most extreme cases of telling him, putin murders reporters and him refusion to say anything bad about russia. That now is able was available to the people when we were interviewing him, showing this difference in the way he would talk about some people versus others. Putin always being in the good category, somebody we how old protect and russia being somebody he wouldnt touch. If you noticed yesterday there was a tweet storm that fell silent once the papadopoulos news came out. Now we are getting hotter on the question of collusion. Now you have a Second Campaign official to potentially clued with the russians. The russians were aggressive, they were shopping these emails, they had a receptive potential buyer here in these high level aides. In addition to what Mike Barnicle said words that should chill the Trump Campaign and officials and those court papers, it said next to papadopoulos name, cooperator, he pled to a less serious charge, that is classic case of him cooperating. This railing about leaks, this is being held quite quiet. This is only the beginning of charges either for manafort and for additional people and we simply dont know where the top of the fishhead is. Jeremy, several people giving examples in the past how that term, proactive witness actually his myth in past computer filings would wear a wire. Since he was arrested coming off an irkt at Dulles International airport outside walk, he has been under the control of the fbi and hes not only turned over all documents he has and they probably were already in his emails. He could have been wearing a wire and baiting other Campaign Officials and even potentially Current White House officials into talking with him. Within thing about this issue. The danger of that before we move on the danger of that is, you know, if he called others and said, hey, im in trouble and theyre sitting there telling him, you know, to lie. Or, hey, why dont you just say that, d. O. T. D. O. T. , suddenly you are in the realm of obstruction of justice . Getting their stories straight. Who else were volunteers . Don jr. , eric, ivanka, jared, i dont think being a vol ter exonerates you, in fact, most of the top echelon are volunteers. The have accusations about facilitating meetings with russians and getting encouraging feedback. It said that in april the overseas professor introduced papadopoulos to the foreign affairs. The filing lists multiple communications in attempts to arrange a meeting between the campaign with the russian government and alleges that after several weeks of further communications regarding a potential off the record meeting with russian officials on or about august 15th, 2016, an unnamed official described as Campaign Supervisor told papadopoulos that, quote, i would encourage you an another Foreign Policy adviser to the Campaign Said encourage you to make the trip to russia, if it is feasible. Interesting. You know what im struck by reading through this plea agreements the same thing im struck by with the donald jr. Story is that when they are presented with an opportunity to get dirt from a foreign. Er about the political opponent, they dont run from it. Theyre thrilled by it. Done jr. Says i love it. That was his quote when he got that email. Another campaign might say, i dont want to go anywhere near thisio exhibit to touch this i know the implication of having a foreign power meddling in this election. Lets stop for one time and say every campaign that any of us have ever known about worked on reported for would have all said, get away from me, get behind me, satan. The fact that they went straight to it, willie, something that again in this bizarre political world we live in now, something that we, sometimes overlook and is so strange. Papadopoulos says i got the stuff. We will not send donald trump, we encourage you to go. It would be up with thing if they quote volunteer said im excited by this, to go to a supervisor who encouraged it and didnt say, woe, cut ties, tells you a lost what was going on in the campaign. One other thing that again we need to do a spot check on halloween. Is that right . Scary out there on halloween, 2017, if we ned to go back to the first statements that donald trump and everybody around donald trump said about russia, which was, oh, russia . No, we had enough contacts in russia. Think about what they were saying back you know, mike pence, oh, heavens sakes, gee wiz, golly bang, we just talked to the American People, dog gone it. You can go down the list, donald trump, no, we didnt talk to you look at what we found out in the past six, seven, eight month, how much they all have lied about their contacts with russians. Look at what we found out through papadopoulos, through the public announcement since july, as willie indicated. This is not as if the campaign is approached by someone from icehappened. This is russia. Russia. You know, not an allie. And the papadopoulos revelations go etc. To the definition of collusion. If you read the indictment and collusion is defined as a secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose. That revelation yesterday is the definition of collusion. So now have you the introduction of the reality of collusion into the white house. Which is why, of course which is why heidi said the twitter feed went silent. Sar have a sanders was asked about this, downplaying the position in the campaign. Can you explain what George Papadopoulos role was. It was extremely limited, a volunteer position, again no activity was ever done in official capacity on behalf of the campaign in that regard. But as we showed you, he had exposure to top Campaign Official, including the current attorney general Jeff Sessions and President Trump, himself. Thats a big player, right at the table. At what is the trump hotel in washington. You know, though, mainly, though, maybe he was bringing that coke or coffee. No, he was at the table. Meeting somebody, because i dont think donald trump ever mentioned this guys name as having to do anything with the campaign, right, willie . Well, joe, papadopoulos is one he named as a foreign adviser. Really, what . Boom. We hard you might be anouceing your Foreign PolicyAdvisory Team soon . Few want, i could give you some of the names, carter page, ph. D. George papadopoulos, hes an energy and oil consultant, excellent guy. Trick or treat. Heidi. I just wanted to Say Something to the previous point about collusion, just reminding everyone of how amazing the time line is now based on the revelations from yesterday. We now know that the Trump Campaign knew about the existence of these emails for three months until they were dumped and when were they dumped . Timing wise . They were dumped within hours of the access Hollywood Tape about donald trump. So just let that sink in a bit in terms of the potential for coordination there. But in terms of the white house distancing itself from papadopoulos make him into this campaign volunteer. We have the email evidence here he was corresponding with high level, being encouraged by high level officials within the campaign, he was reporting to Jeff Sessions, who, by the way, later also lied about his own contacts with the russians. And i think it also puts that don junior ema ill in light ahead of his meeting with the russians where, he was told this information is part of the campaign to help your father and again there was no questions there, what campaign . Yes, a part of what campaign and also, of course, you have roger stone on twitter i think back when he used to be on twitter, actually talking about podesta his day was coming, what did he say the barrel, whatever, in saying that right before they started leaking the Podesta Emails, heidi is right the time line that bob mueller and his team must have, very frightening. Another thing, the don jr. Meeting and this papadopoulos have in common. They lied about it and he was convict and remember don jr. Changed how many times, three or four times, how many people were in the meeting, what it was about. It wasnt about adoption, it was dirt from Hillary Clinton want not only have they engaged with the russian government. They lied about it and asked about it. We find out after 12 lies, there were like two russian interpreters in this meeting. Exactly. There were four people in the russian delegation a part of in addition to rob goldstone, the British Music promoter, the five people sent basically be i the russians to go meet with the senior echelons of the campaign. Heidis point is exactly right, it shows when he got that email, oh, this is an interesting meet, i have no idea what this is about. They knew exactly what it was about. They now know the special prosecutor has volumes of information to lead them right down the road. Everything. They also know they have two choices. They can fight it the way Paul Manafort fought it and possible spend the rest of his life in jail or they can cooperate and get a lesser charge and probably be on probation for sex months. Yeah. Correct. Thats a clarifying. Yes, chilling, actually. Its a clarifying moment for people to make a choice on whether they want to spend a lot of time in jail or whether they want to tell the truth. And when theyre speaking to the media from the podium, it just stop lying. Still ahead on morning joe, much more on the indictments in the Mueller Investigation. Well talk to nbc news Richard Engel who has been following the money. Also, senator Richard Blumenthal on the Judiciary Committee weighing in as facebook and twitter pre pa irto testify on how russia used their platforms. Did you see how Many American people were hit by those facebook ads. Think about facebooks response after the election, oh, cmon, think about the white house response on and off the record, oh, nothing. Immature. 1 and like 126 million americans reached by these facebook ads and a small, small, small fraction of that 126 million helped donald trump get elected in key states plus, Chuck Grassley makes a great escape on capitol hill, some senators simply wouldnt talk about the manafort indictment, theyre like knocking flacks over, casey hunt was asking up with of those little innocent kasie questions. They literally want to hide behind the flag. That really says a lot. First, heres bill kierans with a check on the spooky hold on a second hey, alex, if caskasie d. C. Gets a lightning bolt, i think on halloween bill kierans should get the lightning bolt . Thats true. Im not sure its proprietary. Its embargoed. Im not good enough. Everybody is special here. S so. Its the forecast. Its looking awful scary out there. You get a rock. Wego to tend. Yesterday we had the huge wind storms, still a couple hundred,000 people without power in the northeast. It is a chilling morning. A lot of great weather today for the kids. We will watch rain in east texas. This is 6 00 p. M. This evening. Houston and dallas, they get not a washout for trick or treating. We will have hit or miss showers. We actually have snow and rain showers coming off the great lakes, thankfully, its not much colder, Northern Michigan has some snow out there and heavier rains south of buffalo. Travel forecast for the halloween parades, st. Louis, chicago, new york, boston, fantastic weather for the eastern s