Cook. Im okay. Okay. What about you . Im just navigating. Im tasting. We have a lot to get to this morning. Yesterday we learned that charlie rose, a coanchor of cbc this morning and a contributor on 60 minutes has been suspended from cbs news and pbs announced it will no longer distribute his longrunning interview show. It comes after the Washington Post says eight women accused him of Sexual Harassment. They were either employees of the charlie rose show or aperiod to work there in the late 1990s or 2011. They range age from 21 to 37. A lot of the allegation are situations where they were working in his home or they were traveling with him in hotel suites. The allegation reported by the post include lewd phone calls groping and rose Walking Around naked in front of the women. One of rose accusers in the mid2000s says she told yvette vega, the longtime producer about the lewd calls but vega shrugged it off. In a statement to the post vega says she should have done more to protect the young women adding quote this is a female manager whose name is being brought up in all of this. In a lot of the stories weve covered so far. Well talk more about this later the frame thwork, the managers names we havent heard, the manager saying i should have stood up for them. I failed. It is crushing. I deeply regret not helping them. In a statement charlie rose said in part this i deeply apologize for my inappropriate behavior. I am greatly embarrassed. I have behaved insensitively at times. And i accept responsible for. That though i do not believe that all these allegations are accurate. Sexual conduct continues to be a major factor in an alabama race. In an interview with the today show, lee corfman described how a 32yearold then moore tried to se dues her when she was 14. He basically laid out only blankets on the floor of his living room and proceeded to se dues me, i guess you would say and during the course of that he removed my clothing. He left the room, came back in, wearing his white underwear and he touched me over my clothing. What was left of it and he umm tried to get me to touch him as well and at that point i pulled back and said that i was not comfortable and i got dressed and he took me home. But i was the 14yearold child trying to play in an adults world and he was 32yearsold. Roy moore denies these allegations and, further, says he does not even know you. I wonder how many maids he doesnt know. I wonder, moores comp says theyve raids 1. 5 million about 100,000 a day. Compared to democrat dug jones who reportedly raised 250,000 a day. Jones joins an 111 advantage to moore over the air waves. Yesterday, trump the president , once again dodged questions about moore and his accusers. White house spokesperson Sarah Huckaby sanders said the president wants a congress that supports his agenda but would leave the decision on moore up to the voters. Would you be pleased if roy moore wins his senate race in alabama with the white house be pleased with that outcome . Look, obviously, the president wants people both in the house and senate that support his agenda. But as ive said and as it prohibits me from going further, we think this is something the people of alabama should decide. Eugene robinson, you write if your column the only way to defeat roy moore this, can the descent of American Political Culture into ugly tribalism be halted . Alabama voters will give their answer when they decide whether to send roy moore to the u. S. Senate the fact that most his supports, thus far, are staking with him means he has convinced many alabamaians that child molesttation is different than church and state. We have been talking about tribalism among republicans and democrats for some time. I guess we will find out how far down you can define decency and democracy. This really is trump tested it to a degree. Enough people loathed Hillary Clinton and the clintons that they voted for a guy they didnt trust, they didnt believe and they didnt respect. But here we go even lower. Absolutely. This is the lowest of the low. I hope. I hope we never go lower than this. You know, this is a phenomenon that really has, it was not just infected american politics but arguably overtaken american politics and tribe is the only reason to vote for anybody to vote for roy moore at this point and its not about policy really because, in fact, he would be as much of a pain in the behind for Mitch Mcconnell as doug jones would in terms of supporting the republican agenda. He is lashing out moore as a republican establishment than he is democrats at this point as he is in this crisis for his campaign. So really, its just because hes a republican and because doug jones is a democrat, that is the only reason he retains, in my opinion, any support at this point. You know, willie, you can see this tribalism over the past couple of decades and see that the impact is that it gets people voting against the candidate instead of for a candidate and you see that in these republican events, whether its in california, where john mccain was favored by a California Republican audience or if south florida this past weekend with the names of george w. Bush. George hw bush, john mccain, booed by south Florida Republicans because theyre fought voting for people. Theyre voting against the clinton or against the obamas. This is tribalism to the extreme. This is talking about protecting a guy who has been accused by any number, nine, ten, women, underage women of sexual contact or Sexual Harassment in some ways. If you are willing to protect the tribe, you into ed to eevaluate yourself. We had an alabama pastor who supports roy moore and says something along the lines, they must have had some sweet dreams down the line, talking about these young men, there is some 14yearold was could pass for 20. Thats a pastor. A mans god, defending the behavior of roy moore. Basically throwing some of these women, all of the women under the bus saying they must have dreamed this up. You had somebody in a focus group, rick who said jesus christ could come down from the cross and tell me that donald trump was involved with russia and i would tell him, hold on a second, i into ed to ask the president if thats true. He said this is a bizarre, a group of extraordinarily weakminded people, weak, pathetic, sad people, who will blindly follow donald trump over their god in the case of that, but this sort of, again, this personality cult, this is what you see at the beginning of the rise of any autocracy. Its not for the lack of a lot of stupid people who actually will choose trump over their god, trump over their party, trump over their ideology, trump over their moral patterns. Trump over everything that their mothers and fathers taught them growing up. No, im not talking all Trump Supporters, but there is a group of Trump Supporters that agree like this guy. I dont care what jesus says, i just care what donald trump says. One time you could always expect some kind of moral authority from the white house t. White house seemed to be on the right track at first, Kellyanne Conway said no senate seat is worth a child. She came out yesterday and completely reversed herself on that, apparently a senate seat is worth a child. Particularly, this point is pastors. Because you should expect moral authority from pastors. In some ways, this is not new n. Joshuas time, they wore shipped ashira, the god of sexuality, the god of pros period of time and mulla, the god of human sacrifice, thank goodness we dont have godz of pros period of time and sexuality anymore. These pastors assembled with the worship next to their altars. It has to be disappointing and confusing to christians looking at this race and the lack of moral leadership on what to do and who to support in this race. There is a state congressman in alabama who has gone so far in his be id to protect the tribe, as to say the victim is roy moore and the people who should be prosecuted are the women that came forward. If he was guilty of these things, they have protected a predator over the past 20 years, its their fault. Therefore, they are the ones to blame. There is a lot of learning. Its happening for decades. What i would encourage the pastors what they are saying about these women to watch that interview that lee corfman did, watch, see if you think she is compelling, in it for some other reason than to get the truth out about a man who likes to sit in the senate. But this tribalism, you sound like republicans in 1999, 2000 and beyond. Just look at the tape of anita broad rick and democrats didnt want to do it and republicans dont want to do it now because tribalism. There are people who said he should not be elect and he doesnt deserve a place in the senate. But down in alabama, there are a group of people, including pastors and locally elected officials and local chairman who are circling the wagons purely with the interest of protecting their own. And they will go as far as saying that these women are to blame, that they would elect a pedophile over a democrat in order to protect the tribe. Its important, to point out again what Kelly Anne Conway said yesterday remained the operative position of the white house throughout the day that they wanted roy moore to win in so many words because they wanted somebody that would vote for the tax bill. Well, there are so many layers to this and a few that were financial to try to get in this block. Thank god its a threehour show. A second woman has come forward with allegations against democratic senator al franken. Lindsay memce says he grabbed her buttocks taking a photo at the Administration Minnesota state fair if 2010 when he was an elected official. In a statement, said he didnt remember taking the photo. He felt badly she felt disrespected. This comes after lee anne tweeden accused franken of kissing her more than a decade ago, several senators called for an ethics investigation. Franken agrees with that and says there should be one, too. Okay. In a piece for the National Review entitled beware of running with the al franken story, consider where that leads Douglas Murray writes, in part this, every time the definition of rape abuse or molestation is brought down another notch and this low water mark is agreed on across the political spectrum, the prospect for a different type of harm increases, if we agree for short term pleasure that franken is guilty of serious sexual molestation for an unfunny photograph taken a year ago at a woman, then two things are certain to happen t. First is that the difference between bad manners and rape will become blurred, yet, further, second, this opportunity, opportunistic process risks embedded the now prevailing narrative of a third wave feminism, which is pen are all rapists or photo rapists and women in our society try constant minefields their entire lives when dealing with the male sex, there are many reasons to be mad about franken, it doesnt seem wise to fuel a movement intent on making our society matter still. You know the al franken story makes me uncomfortable. Thats ally say at this point. I dont want to look tribal and ruth marcus writes in her piece for the Washington Post, a perplexing aspect of the current debate involves the question of what should happen to those guilty of misbehavior and the tendency, common to revolutions to over correct for past since. If society once ignored Sexual Harassment and we certainly did one risk now evident with the case of then al banken is apathy. Think about that. I just say to be transparent, there is tribalism everywhere, there is tribalism in politics. We see that from bill clinton to roy moore, that protected clintons behavior and started this or kennedy started this entire waterfall of behavior or maybe before. We have been dealing with this for a along time. In the media, the behavior is protected by management who promote men to power or women. Men to pow worry are given all sorts of passes. So the enabler, its not hr when you finally go to hr that works for the company. But the environment. The culture needs to change. I remember, catty the other day talking about maybe they shouldnt all go out for drinks. I was like totally ransacked on twitter for saying that. You read that charlie rose story, women working at his home, i have great mail associate producers who didnt get the opportunity, maybe schaarly rose wanted a woman, i dont know the story. Why are they working at his home, sleeping eight his home . Why are people going out for drinks, a fork times reporter suspended. Everyone is drunk. These are not the best behaviors in all of to us come out. That is something that needs to be required from the place where you work. This stuff has to stop from the top down. We cant have situations that enable this behavior. Do i sound crazy . Am i going to get savaged on twitter again today . I dont see why. I have reservations there can be one set of rules for men doing business and women doing business. Im talking why both . Men tend to do business after work. They go out for dinners and drinks. Great. I see women in senior positions saying im not having those opportunities, im missing out, my career is being hampered because. Catty, let me clarify, there is going out for coffee, drink, early dinner. Men and women should be able to handle that, obviously. When two people are sloshed, yes. You know what, your judgment is impaired. Right. Okay. Both men and women. And that has to stop and that is rampant in the media business. I mean, i have been in this business for 30 years, i go out, i would stop by across the street where everyone would get together after work, everyone was drunk. I go home, this is not good. But everyone stayed probably story ideas came together and a lot of other things, too. There is no place for that. Why isnt it okay to say that we dont need to be getting sloshed after work and hooking up . I think the bigger issue for me is when it goes beyond industries where there are a few famous people who get out and whether its charlie rose or al franken and whether actually we can create safe work stiermts for women that work in restaurants or women who work in hospitals or women that work in post offices or insurance companies. Yeah. Where the bosses are not famous. No one cares about their name appearing on the front page of the new york post. That will be whether this metoo moment becomes more than a celebrity moment. My fear is we dont get there. Those women have almost no recourse, because they are totally financially dependent on their jobs. That manager at work who gives you the shifts, who you have as to put up with his treacherous behavior to get those shifts the customers that are drunk dependent on you for their tips, until we get to that stage, beyond media and politics and industries where people are famous, then we havent changed the dhul u culture t. Goal is to create you said at this time other day safe work places for women. Right. So far its not vengeance, a safe work place. Safe work place for women. We have one producer yvette vega who apology sized saying i should have done more. Id like to hear about some men setting up an environment where peter is not just bes peter or charlie being charlie or name the guys just being name the guy. No, actually, they cant work at your house. Quite rightly, there are whole group of young women that want to involve their careers, they will put up with things that are terrible. The poor women in alabama. It doesnt have to be. Now think about al franken. Like im not comfortable with this. I dont want to step on a mine and say that that behavior or spigot acceptable. Its not. But is it the same . And by the way, i do these, you know, book tours with joe. We do like pictures with a thousand people. Am i allowed to say how many times my butt has been grabbed. I dont know, im not saying its okay. Right there. You have a protective guy. Literally, i pull the hand off my butt. Is that a sex crime . Where are we . But you are not saying thats okay. No, i didnt like it. Not enjoying it. Its not okay. But at the same time, again, you talked about being tribal. Whats interesting, catty, is you have, you have the National Review, a very conservative outlet saying al franken doesnt deserve the Death Penalty. Have you Michelle Goldberg at the New York Times saying the same thing. And there have been a lot of conservatives on twitter yesterday saying the same thing, with al franken, are we jumping to this seems to be a case not tribe am a. Lot of conservative leaders and democrats are starting to say but im also wondering whether there arent a lot of men who obvious this is made terribly up comfortable. Its so uncomfortable. The vast majority of the men have no idea of the scale, they dont do it, it doesnt happen the to them. It doesnt happen to them, thats been a big gender divide thats been revealed by this story t. Thing about the al franken story, i dont know about this one and you know he did stick his tongue allegedly forcibly in somebodys mouth. If that was proven to be the case what message if he doesnt go does that send to other potential people . How could bit proven to be the case . I guess its just us, we are the judge the jury and the cops. Or you what it to see how a story develops and there are others that emerge. You are question about degrees when donny was here as pell, its a conversation i had with women. How do you feel about this . Is al franken, when you say al franken. It becomes the democrats. Politician x doing what he did in the same boat, should his picture be on the same graphic with Harvey Weinstein who now we know is a serial predator, should they both be thrown off the stage and the answer ive gotten from most women is, no. Right. To your point, mika, that does not excuse the first behavior. Theyre all bad. Its gross, if somebody did it i would report it. Do i think hes a pariah and should have his life ruined thrown out. Im not talking al franken. Im talking the degrees of Sexual Harassment and assault we have been talking about. We had an honest conversation where one man said what every man knows, that is the way they treated women 20 and 30 years ago is completely different than the way they react around women now, behaviors have changed, have evolved in a positive direction. Eugene robinson, there are some really Big Questions h