Yes. Tell me, donny d. As a legendary advertiser and marketing man what do you make of the president of the United States, well get to the news in a second. It was really shocking that the president of the United States after being called treasonous by quite a few people in the Foreign PolicyDefense Community, still trying to clean up which is going to be our top story, you know, the mess that he created when he went to helsinki and kowtowed to an ex kgb, and now announces president putin is coming to washington, before cleaning up the last mess on aisle 7. Whats your take . Interesting, joe, you used the word t. Word beginning of the week a lot of democrats, people used it and all of a sudden, oh, maybe thats too hard. I dont think its extreme to use that treason word. Adhering to enemies giving them aid and comfort. I dont know how else you describe what trump did beginning of the week and to your point now is doubling down on it. I think that trump like a petulant child at any time in any way hes rebuked about anything, his response is to double first to walk it back and walk back the walk back and then double down. Just putting in our faces, putting it in americans faces, and i as branding guy, i have no trepidation at all about assigning that treason word. It is no different than had somebody attacked the United States with missiles when you attack our voting system, actually youre doing more harm to us, because once you destroy that process, our democracy is over. You have an election, we cant believe in it that is an act of war in any way, sense or form, and we have a treasonous president who now put it in our face in finland, now going to bring it to our own shores, and as Jonathan Swan talked about on axios, the fact that 80 of republicans think that he behav behaved okay, gave him a stamp of approval. Shame on these pathetic whimpering cowards. Yeah. I wrote about it yesterday. Who are these people . What have they done to my party . 80 of americans think its okay to cower before an ex kgb agent. Insult allies. You wonder, this isnt just a donald trump problem now. This is a problem with the party cast wide. And really quickly, before we move on to the first script, john heilemann, this is something we really need to talk about. I personally believe it changes not only the face of the Republican Party but in the long run destroys the Republican Party. That you have treason was used by so many people. Criticizing donald trump. Even the wall street journal said that Congress Needed to pass a containment plan not only for putin but also for donald trump. You had the president of the United States doing Vladimir Putins bidding, exactly what he wanted them to do. Attacking nato. Attacking theresa may. Attacking germany. Attacking Angela Merkel. Attacking al of our closest our closest allies. As were hearing just about every night on russian tv, commentators shocked saying we couldnt even succeed this well in the cold war. Now donald trump is doing all of our work for us. But what is the longterm impact of a Republican Party now who not only is embracing Vladimir Putin and embracing Vladimir Putins agenda, which is to destroy nato, and disrupt elections, but now theyre also i think i saw somebody last night a quote that 73 of republicans now support tariffs and protectionism, which, again is a complete reversal that will have impact in the long run on this party. Well, joe, i think that the corruption and bankruptcy of the Republican Party has been a long time in the making, but there is no Republican Party anymore in any sense that you would have defined the Republican Party ten years ago, and the way you would have, what the Republican Party stood for at least in the postworld war ii era. It has become the party of donald trump. And so in a thorough way, weve seen this not just in startling polling in relation to how republicans now have seen the performance of donald trump in helsinki, presumably how they will see his invitation now of Vladimir Putin to come to washington to give him the ultimate kind of rather than to chastise him, rather than to criticize him for russias role in meddling in an american election, hes giving him the ultimate kind of dher rcherry o of a sundae what a russian president would want most of us, especially in this week. But, john, as it goes to republicans. Rank and file republicans 75 saying they liked what he said in helsinki when again closest allied the said treasonous or a complete dupe. Who are these people that i grew up with that were the most the toughest on russia, that fought the cold war alongside with nato. When the soviets goal during the cold war is the same goal that Vladimir Putin has now, which is to disrupt western democracies and break up nato. The goal is identical and what republicans always supported. You talk about trade. 73 of republicans now are telling pollsters that they think tariffs are good for america . Yes. This again, who are these people . Its like political body snatchers. Joe, the people who now call themselves, now are the Republican Party. The people you thought in your life growing up in the party are now either no longer in the party, or they are in a kind of weak and craven way sitting on the sidelines wringing their hands over what donald trump has done to the party, not doing much about it. Some speaking out, some not. Over the course of the week as i watched from vacation, David Ignatius said, you could feel the fabric of the presidency ripping and could hear there are more republicans speaking ot. Its not nearly as much as you expect but more speaking out, but the rank and file of the party now, the the grass roots of the Republican Party are people who believe what donald trump believes, and not what you believe, and not what republicans believed in the postworld war ii era, they dont believe in free trade, dont believe in immigration, dont believe in standing up to russian previously soviet expansionism, they dont believe in nato they dont believe those things. Its not what the Republican Party is anymore. To answer your question, i dont know what happens. As you pointed out many times over the course of the last 18 months, there will be a period after donald trump. Whether in fewer than couple years from now. Whether donald trump makes it through, gets his his first term forestalled, make it through one term and beaten or a reelection, at some point there will be a life after donald trump and then the Republican Partys going to look up and say, what are we . What have we become . And does that lead to a fundamental redefense redefinition of the republican life . Ask the question, what have we done, and why did we sit by and allow it to happen the way we did . Susan del percio, im curious. When you go to a reagan dinner, a lincolnreagan din perp used to just be reagan dinners republicans every year, usually january, february, march, have a big fundraising dinner and invite in a speaker. But if you go to a lincolnreagan dinner now, talking to rank and file, if you believe the polls, talking to a rank and file that no longer believe in free trade. Okay. So i guess what i said at lincolnreagan dinners about free trade i couldnt say anymore if i were still a republican. Talk about balancing budgets, reducing the debt. Boy, one of the biggest expansions and deficits and debt spending in the history of our country, in the history of the world. So i couldnt talk about that. You talk about standing up to an expansionist russia. Being tough, not leading from behind. You talk about your alliances with, you know, nato. I mean, these are the things that we talked about. Thats right. We talked about for 50 years. Not me for 50 years but at least two decades, and you could go to every reaganlincoln dinner across america, lincolnreagan dinner across america, and you could say the same thing wherever you went, and youd get the applause. Now according to these polls its not a split. Now 80 of americans are fine with Donald Trumps kowtowing to an exkgb agent who wants to destroy our allies, and wants to disrupt our elections. And they now, you look at this poll, they support tariffs. What the hell what the hell who the hell are these people . What is wrong with these republicans . Where has the party, not of my youth, but of my early 50s gone . Its gone, joe. And its really difficult. I was reading your column this morning, and i, too, said, like where is my party . I dont recognize it. And i could have gone to a lincoln day dinner a year or two years ago and heard those things. It has happened so quickly. Lets not forget. We did have strong republicans running for president for 2016. Donald trump did beat them. But they were you know what . Jeb bush is certainly a legitimate, strong candidate. Marco rubio you my not have agreed with their policies however they were strong republicans and they were beaten by the personality of donald trump at that point. The policies of donald trump are now what is what has defeated the Republican Party, and that is putting us in a very difficult situation, and personally i think if we dont start to see republican organizations setting up the field for 2020 to open it up for a conservative republican to run or just a principled republican, leave it at that, then we are going to see this party dive way deeper. I would like to talk about the beginning of the segment. Before we knew about russia undermining our elections, lets not forget. Donald trump did that two weeks before election day in 2016. He questioned the validity of our elections. He said he may not accept the Election Results, and that really is the kind of, what led us down this road that we are today. From two weeks before the election in 2016. Yeah. And and by the way, again, just as we wrap up this week, a lot of people have said throughout the week that donald trump was kowtowing to Vladimir Putin and ignoring what all of his Intel Community and military leaders had said about them meddling in our democracy, because, it said he took it too personally and couldnt admit that his election may have been compromised. Well, again, its important to always remember, he was kowtowing to Vladimir Putin on this show december of 2015 before the first vote. So, again, theres something there. We dont know what it is. There is something there. Hed get in my ear, when susan was talking about lincolnreagan dinners, you know, he was a republican, a famous tweet from early in the campaign, when actually, everybody knew he was a republican and the first republican president. Read a back every once in a whiles in a week of cleanups and reversals, the white house is now rejecting just for today rejecting Vladimir Putins offer to allow the United States investigators to question 12 russians indicted for election meddling, in exchange for the u. S. Agreeing to let moscow question some american officials. Including former u. S. Ambassador to russia michael mcfaul. The White House Press secretary of state Sarah Huckabee sanders put out a new statement yesterday saying, it is a proposal that was made in sincerity by president putin, made in sincerity . I think it was very cynical, but President Trump agrees with it. Hopefully president putin will have 129 identified russians come to the United States to prove their innocence or guilt. The statement, President Trump agrees to it is in direct contrast what he initially said calling it an incredible offer and sanders saying that the white house wa considering the proposal. We would expect that the americans would reciprocate and they would question officials including the officers of Law Enforcement and Intelligence Service of the United States whom we believe are, have something to do with illegal actions on the territory of russia. What he did is an incredible offer. He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators with respect to the 12 people. I think thats an incredible offer. The president s going to meet with his team and well let you know when we have an announcement on that s. That a topic that came up in their conversation . Did president putin raise this with President Trump . There was some conversation about it, but there wasnt a commitment made on behalf of the United States, and the president will work with his team and well let you know if theres an announcement on that front. You know, katty kay, lets really strip this down and be honest about it. No american, unless they were a dupe for Vladimir Putin, would think that turning a former Russian Ambassador over to russian investigators, especially an ambassador who had been kicked out of russia because he spoke out too forcefully against Vladimir Putins abuses, no redblooded american would think that was an incredible offer, but donald trump did think is was an incredible offer. Sarah Huckabee Sanders said he had to think about it a day later, and now we have this reversal yet again. Im sure theyll change tomorrow, but what do you make of the back and forths on turning americans over to russians . This was never going to happen. You were never going to turn over a former ambassador or a u. S. Born financier to help implement the magnisky act and you have to wonder what was President Trump thinking . What did putin say to him, how did he communicate to him that seemed to win donald trump over so when he came out of that twohour meeting his initial instinct, gut reaction say, yeah, this is an incredible offer. I think this is a great idea. I think as we head into the prospect, because one was not enough, why not have a second one, of that second putin meeting. Youve got intelligence officials now scrambling to find out what else donald trump may have agreed to. What did he give away . What were the verbal commitments . You have russian officials and president putin saying, hey, it was great. We came out of helsinki, got agreements, looking forward to working on them and the head scratching going on around washington particularly in the Defense Community saying, we have no idea. We dont know what our president may have just committed this country to, and now we have the prospect of a second meeting as well. It beggars belief. Its extraordinary. Jonathan lamere, you were there. Tell me all the back and forths that have been going on this week. Whats your take . What have you heard inside the white house . What have you heard across washington . Not only about the reaction a week later, or several days later, into the summit, but also the president lurching forward to have another summit with Vladimir Putin when he still hasnt cleaned up the multitude of messes created by the first summit . Very few things seem to stick to this president. He seems to bounce off controversy nearly on a daily basis pap few things lining charlottesville, we still feel that one. This week seems like it could stay. I think the part of the confusion is, part of the reason why the stories and questions are still circulating is that no one knows really what happened. Not just we in the media dont ent firely know what happened. Key members of the United States government dont know what happened in helsinki on monday. The members of the white house themselves are still trying to figure out exactly what President Trump may have agreed to. Were relying on what the russians are telling us. I think theres been a lot of pushback from republicans, those, mostly those not facing reelection this fall, who feel this was a mistake. The president has given too much. Changed the party. We saw the reaction on fox news which we never see to something the president does. The president , though, is telling people they wants jonathan, fox news, jonathan, you have the New York Post. Yep. Being critical. Talking about his see no evil diplomacy. You had the wall street journal. Again, how remarkable that the wall street journal said we need a containment policy. Theyre correct. Congress needs a containment policy not only for Vladimir Putin but also for donald trump. You had a lot of very conservative voices coming out, being very critical of the president , and yet heres the president , despite the fact its not good for him politically, dough spite the fact it will hurt republicans in the midterm setting up yet another summit with Vladimir Putin. And it fits a pattern here. Right . The few moments where we have seen this president never apologize, sort of walk Something Back. The access Hollywood Tape and charlottesville and both times issued a statement, like a retreat, felt like a hostage video did it unwillingly only to double down a day late