Theyre in compliance. We have won against isis. We have beaten them and beaten them badly. While isis is nearing territorial defeat in syria, they are returning to their roots. Knocking the hell out of isis. Isis still commands thousands of fighters in iraq and syria. A lot of contrast between President Trumps rhetoric on big Foreign Policy issues and what the senate had to say yesterday for worldwide threat assessments hearing. One issue noybly absent, the border with mexico. Trump and his intelligence chiefs did not once mention the need for a wall along the southern border President Trump portrayed as the single most pressing need for the country. More specifically, youre talking about National Security threats for america. Not only do they not talk about the wall, they didnt talk specifically about the southern border. Or caravans. Nor should they. Or caravans. Crossings again have been going down for well over a decade, Illegal Drugs you can ship directly to john heilemanns abode. Please. Actually goes through legal ports of entry, his in 1967 as an illegal port of entry. An app. A special custom app in partnership with fedex. But, it is willie, whats so fascinating is what donald trump said is more in line with what vladamir putin said and what he would say on all of those issues opposed to what the head of americas fbi, americas cia, americas dni, all of americas military. American leaders have one view of the world. Vladamir putin has another view of the world. If you look at those issues yesterday, Donald Trumps lineup far closer with vladamir putins than they do with the head of the fbi, the cia, the director of National Intelligence. People protecting america. All republicans by the time who donald trump appointed. And the view of russias threat to the United States, ongoing threat, by the time, as they said yesterday, has been consistent with our intelligence agencies from the beginning. President trump has been in contrast with them for years now. We talk a lot on this show about Institutions Holding and what does that mean in this age of trump . Yesterday, we saw Institutions Holding. Saw the head of the cia and fbi and director of National Intelligence sitting at an open hearing signaling to the American People and the world, beach still got this and here they are despite what the president said. We have National Affairs analyst for msnbc and cohost, john heilemann. Now with the app makes it a lot easier for the dea to follow him around. Roger stone melting down when you were bringing up certain issues with him is worth noting and looking at. Especially with the flashing in si incisors and foaming mouth. Also, republican strategist and msnbc political analyst, and cofounder and axios analyst. We will talk about one more thing, billionaires going wild, freaking out about Elizabeth Warren and her proposed tax plan, we give you that ahead. I can say this, we see, willie, jim vanderhyde, axios had a big year on twitter. What i thought about at 2 00 in the morning, slept well last night, its really not fair you look at their income streaming and compare to other platform, half of their 25 million in revenue, as it always does, comes from the mike allen swimsuit calendar. Stop. By the time, this year, its gone exclusively at i wont get any sleep tonight. Troubling. You guys, its multiplatform. You have holograms, you have the calendar itself. We have this fancy backdrop. See that . Its not those rich mahogany bookcases you have but sleep white. Can we do the news . Youre talking about trump aligning with putin a lot more . Yes. Look at this. The white house acknowledged President Trump and russian president vladamir putin informally met at beunos aires at the g20 summit but a new report acknowledges their conversation was longer, no substantive and included no american personnel. In november, trump pointedly cancelled his scheduled meeting with putin. Almost like a trend here, a fear that the president of the United States ever has an american listening to his conversations with vladamir putin. With putin. Almost. Okay. It happens all the time. In november he cancelled his meeting with putin due to russias provocative action to ukrainian ships and sailors. Trump tweeted, i look forward to a meaningful meeting again as soon as this situation is resolved. But the leaders huddled for several minutes at the end of an evening event with no translator or notetaker from the u. S. Side to record what was said. Susan, heres another thing. Why is it that the translators never from the american side. If it is always to be one translator, always a translator for vladamir putin but never a translator for the american side . Because President Trump does not trust the Intel Community, he does not trust his own staff. This goes back to Jared Kushner wanted to back channel with the russians right after the russians and wanted as an open line of communication. He has now said, i will find it. He doesnt care if hes not updating his Security Team or intel team. Thats also whats good about yesterdays hearing, those members of the Intel Community said we are going to be honest, we are going to be straightforward with the American Public and we are not afraid of donald trump. They have lied time and time again. I remember, i mean, the guy, i said this before, march of 2017, asking mark halperin, quiet upset all around, this is when the whole russian thing started to percolate, he said, don junior for one. I said, what, don junior, does he not have a hunting license in idaho . You and mark and others did extraordinary reporting about all these contacts with russians that donald trump and the whole team have been lying about now for two years. Its Pretty Amazing the extent of it and the reporting cataloging how much its been. To susans point a second ago, i put a donald trump spin on this, donald trump doesnt trust his community and there is a reason why american president s even in oneonones in the past, do oneonones with other president s and heads of state, always have someone on their side there because the rest of the government needs to know whats said in that meeting and to keep later accounts honest from the other side. Trump, for whatever reason, whatever hes talking to with vladamir putin is stuff he does not want any american to know about. That raises all kind of a slightly chilling thing this happens every time he meets with putin and not reported or read out to the press and has no one from the American Government ever present. That pattern is truly unsettling and disturbing. Jim, that pattern has been with us a long time. Remember when he invited in the Russian Foreign minister and Russian Ambassador of the United States to brag about the fact he fired jim comey and they didnt have anything to worry about anymore and the pressure had been taken off the russian investigation, he excluded american reporters from that meeting but allowed russians in. Yeah. Ive got a lot of friends and family members who are like, wait, other president s have done this. Didnt obama do this with putin . No is the answer. I cant remember a single time in history one of our leaders has met with adversary multiple times theres nobody on the american side taking any notes or there to tell other people in the government what actually transpired. Its just plain weird. You juxtapose that with what you were talking about the top of the show. This idea of the Intelligence Community or apparatus or federal government saying the opposite what their boss says about isis or russia. That doesnt happen. Its never happened with this level of consistency where they break, based on data and intelligence from what the president says rhetorically in public. Those two things, they might not be impeachable and they might not be enough to move trump voters, but they are just plain weird and they break from historical precedent. So the report quickly yeah. This isnt like obamas deep state. No. These are all republicans, all appointed by donald trump, Christopher Wray, as we heard yesterday, was suggested by governor chris christie, jena was not a republican pick, running the cia. Republican ambassador and republican through and through also picked by donald trump, confirmed by these are all republicans saying what the president is telling you is just a lie. What the president is telling you is not whats happening in the world. Its happening time and time again. Even the dhs secretary said that vladamir putin and russia pose a direct threat to american democratic. She said it under testimony, she said it on capitol hill. Seriously. He just keeps denying and denying what everybody in his government and in the military are saying. So, some more details from this report, not independently confirmed by nbc news, people who had direct knowledge of the encounter or were briefed on it, claims the discussion occurred at a theater as World Leaders and their spouses were streaming out of the building, President Trump accompanied by his wife, melania, but no staff and President Trump with his translator, the four sat at a table and were among the last to leave. A russian government leader tells the Financial Times the two speak about 15 minutes about a number of Foreign Policy issues, including the sea incident with ukraine and conflict in syria. They also discussed when they could have a formal meeting the official said. The white house declined formal comment. This is incredible. 15 minutes pales to what we have seen before, two hours at helsinki with no translators, no National Security of advisor or secretary of state to be next to donald trump. Think of those two narrators. Donald trump and vladamir putin trying to explain exactly what happened and no account what happened in that room. Imagine you were President Trump, a person under investigation for working with russia. Your campaign worked with russia. What would you do as a pr matter . Wouldnt you have as many people in a room as you could . Wouldnt you have translators and advisors . Somebody from your country. Of course i dont have a strange relationship with vladamir putin, its all out in the open. Hes doing the exact opposite. Not only that, the story sourced by a russian official. This wasnt coming from u. S. Sources. This is russia saying, we are going to interfere even more with this president by doing this. John heilemann, what this shows us is, again, the russians, at every one of these meetings, have all the readouts. They know what goes on in these meetings so they can prepare in the future. I love what jim vandehei says, this never happens. Never happens repeatedly like this, especially it keeps happening. Usually, a president is not allowed to talk to anybody without having somebody there, without getting the full notes back to the state department, back to the National Security advisor so they can plan their strategy towards a country that sees the United States of america as an enemy. We may see the russians as an adversary, vladamir putin sees the United States as an enemy. Donald trump is in no position to dispute anything they said. Trump says, that didnt happen in the meeting. Hes never done that. If he ever did, found himself in a situation the return media side spun in a certain way, that i dont happen, he has no recourse from any other person that was there, i have notes from the meeting, the National Security advisor never said this, hes in a position now hes vulnerable to russian spin and misinformation and puts himself in a situation he can be privately manipulated by vladamir putin and brings us back to the large questions here, what is it vladamir putin has on donald trump that compels him to allow for vladamir putin to call the shots how these meetings are set up and why does donald trump cap pit late over and over again. Capitulate and what is happening with helsinki where donald trump says, i take the word of an exkbg agent over my own handpicked fbi director, my own handpicked director of national against, my own handpicked joint chiefs of staff. My own handpicked National Security establishment. My own handpicked you can go down the list jim vandehei, you talk about your relatives, i can talk about my relatives when issues like this come up. I wonder how voters, especially in your home state of wisconsin, which seems to me to be sort of the florida florida of 2020, it is really the state that determines whether donald trump has any chance of repeating again in 2020. What are people in wisconsin saying . How do they square up the fact donald trump is siding with vladamir putin on issues regarding russia and suria a and and syria and north korea and the fbi director and cia director and director of National Intelligence and republican handpicked donald trump employees . Theres not a ton of evidence trump is losing that much support from his base. I dont know theyre watching this like we are, saying, my gosh, im connecting these dots and dont want to support donald trump. Shouldnt they . They should be. You could watch the first 15 minutes and say, geez, you guys are all very conspiratorial. There is nothing that is not a fact so far. On capitol hill yesterday, you have republicans saying it would be dangerous to do what donald trump said in syria. Who wants us to get out of syria precipitously . Vladamir putin. Thats about it. It may be turkey, may be a few others that want us out precipitously. Wait a minute, you shouldnt do that. Republicans on the hill who tend to back him on anything, no, we dont agree to that either. You have to pay attention. Yes, theyre not all linked but all counter to how weve done business in washington and government, you have to zero in on it and start to ask those questions. Why . Go back, what does vladamir putin have over trump . That used to be very conspiratorial when you say it. We now know if you listen to Rudy Guiliani and people in this white house, there was potential activity going on, a potential business deal throughout the campaign for trump to have a property in moscow, coordination between Michael Cohen, his right hand person and moscow. Moscow knew that. Putin knew that. Putin knows every single thing that happens in rush, contact that happens and that is one thing you would have dangling over him. It is. There are so many coincidences. If youre sitting at a craps table and somebody rolls snake eyes once, but if they do it 47 times in a row, the die are loaded, right . Its very concerning. Anybody here watch sherlock. Yeah. Theres that amazing scone where the older brother is yelling in sherlocks brain and what do we say about coincidence, sherlock, sherlock respond, the universe is rarely so lazy. These are not coincidences. You can go all the way back to donald trump on this show in december of 2015, saying vladamir putin was a stronger leader than american leaders and he didnt care he assassinated people, that u. S. Troops in iraq killed people, too. Go back to that. Its one after another after another example. After a while, the coincidences, there is no explanation here. Again, on what vladamir putin wants the most, taking over the middle east. Getting the United States out of syria. Donald trump is the only person in washington, d. C. Other than rand paul, he doesnt really count, does he, that wants us out of syria. The thing i keep coming back to, its not an America First policy, a donald trump policy. Its a russia first policy. It is always about donald trump. It always comes back to that. Any time you want to know why does he have a secret oneonone with vladamir putin or does any of the things he does, he does it because it is in his best interests and hopefully we will learn more about what those interests are. Jim vandehei, thank you very much. Still ahead on morning joe, new polling says voters have more faith in democrats than the president and republicans including over Border Security. More confidence in nancy pelosi. Absolutely. Than donald trump. Nancy wins big time on that one. Running against nancy pelosi, that really worked for you republicans last time. Try that again. Plus, senator Elizabeth Warren takes on the wealthiest people in america and they are freaking out including former starbucks Howard Schultz who will be on later on. Bill karins was a little upset coming in here, not because he has billions of dollars hes hiding in the caymens, this polar vortex everyone is talking about. About five years ago the media caught onto that and everyone is making a big deal of that. Going back to the late 1800s, nothing new, this catchy fraiph, and get really cold outbreaks. A piece broke off over minneapolis and chicago this morning and have over 100 Million People under wind chill warnings or advisors. Yesterday, the lowest i saw was negative 66 in minnesota. That is pretty extreme and chicago at negative 45, why schools are canceled throughout this region. Today is the peak of it, the worst of it and will get warmer. Across the northeast, snow squalls and wind chills 5 in new york and nothing compared t