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MSNBCW Morning Joe January 31, 2019

Donald trump is adopting Vladimir Putins position on the fbi, on cia, on dan coates, on every intel leader, the military intelligence leaders. He has decided he is going to adopt the position of an exkncex exk. G. B. Agent. We have with us richard haas, retired fourstar Navy Admiral James tsvridias and with us the author of power up. Good to have you. Admiral, this week is clarifying. A lot of people may be distressed from what theyre saying from the president of the United States. But i am glad that the world is seeing that we as a country, as least the people that run our intill and our military are Standing Shoulder to shoulder, we know who the bad guys are and we have elections. If you think youre going to take advantage of us, ploos wait because these are Donald Trumps own intel chiefs. As you watch that display of intellectual fire power called our Intelligence Community and you walk down the list of those people, you had to think how proud you are of all of them that stood and delivered and then here you have gina haspel, this is really the ateam and donald trump says they should go back to school. What a fool. What skchool is that . Did someone not tell him Trump University is closed . In is the school. This is the faculty. I wont drkd this toward the admiral because hes got some friends he likes to hang out with but, richard, you and i know if i was looking at a one star general, i knew who wanted one thing, the second star. If he had a third star, he wanted a fourth star. Sometimes people will measure their testimony not toin raich the commander in chief, sometimes again, when its close theyre never going to lie to you. Never had an admiral or a general or anybody lie to me on the Armed Services committee, but they rarely come out and do what happened the other day and just come out and basically say the president of the United States is dead wrong and these are the facts that we americans need to know to keep this country safe. Joe, the president used the schooling met faphor. What we heard was speaking truth to power. It showed that important individuals are still willing to speak and traffic in the truth, no matter how difficult it may be politically, isis is not defeated, iran is still complying with the 2015 nuclear deal, russia is interfering with the internal politics of the United States. It made cler the shum uns are acting on are simply inconsistent with the facts. And theets are his choices, head of the feeb, the head of National Security adviser, these are his choices. These are not obama holdovers hes attacking. Hes talking about them like theyre cable news hosts he doesnt like. These are his choices, these are career professionals that are laying out the facts. He doesnt like the facts so hes trying to school them on National Security. Also this morning the president had promised 13,000 jobs in wisconsin as a factory for which he claimed the credit and what he called, quote, the eight wonder of the world. I remember when it was ruby falls. People there are wondering where are the jobs . These are the broken promises that are leaving people hanging and no value of the proof at this point. Lets go to some of the details. President trump is scheduled to receive an emergency briefing this afternoon, one day after he blasted the nations spy kaefch yrchiefs, one day after denying the president s assessment. He tweets the intelligence people seem to be extremely passive and naive. Have you ever called anyon anyonin gina haspell of being naive . Think back to confirmation hearings, aggressive, smart, lethal. Shes a cia officer and she represents that community. And another aspect of this is the message this is sending to the people on all of those teams, from the most junior recruits walking into langley, the midshipmen walking into knappless. And who else . The president. About six months ago. I can only say i do have confidence in our intelligence agencies as currently constituted. I think that dan coates is excellent, i think that gina excellent, i think we have excellent people in the agencies and when they tell me something, it means a lot. Do you think dthink u. S. Intelligence agencies are out to get you . If the past its been terrible, you look at clapp, hade i dont know, mccomey, you look at struck, his lover and lisa page. You look at other people in the fbi that have been fired that are no longer there. Certainly i cant have any confidence in the past but i can have a lot of confidence in the present and the future because its getting to be now where were putting our people in. Just a regular reminder to our regular viewers, that is not a parody from comedy central. That was a regular interview with the president of the United States. Gina haspel, hes calling her passive and naive. The biggest knocks from her critic is that she was not passive or naive, too aggressive, had too cleareyed view of the world and now the president is attacking her for being passive. I know her. She is about as apolitical as you you can find. If you called central casting and said get me a career individual when he talked about iran testing rockets and is getting very close to the edge and you put that against the backdrop of what his National Security adviser has been saying, the speeches of the secretary of state has been saying, i think theres a decent chance well look back at this moment and say all right be the drums are beating. Israel is attacking iranian sources on a regular basis. I thinkly think were beginning to see the predicate i hope im wrong here but were beginning to see the predicate for using military force against iran in that theyre violating the u. N. Agreement against using ballistic missile. The head of the intel agency said two years agriculture that iran is complying with the nuclear deal when this were asked about it. Again, the president didnt like hearing that either. Everything they laid out contradicts a narrative hes trying to build. Another point is the International Aspect of that. If you walk down the table of all of those intelligence chiefs, each one of them has an enormous International Net werk. Each has grope up with the series ofs so that message, that Ripple Effect that goes out after a moment like this. I think im going to be richard on this one, that that could be a beginning of a very loyal there are several people, like me, that are not fans of the iran deal. I thought it was a bad idea from the very againing, he thought it was a bad idea. Richard not the deal i would have nettene negotiated. Not the deal you would have negotiated. The president chooses instead to kick her around. Last night Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer sent a letter to direct coates writing i applaud you and your colleagues in the Intelligence Community for being cleareyed about the threats we face but you cannot let the president s ill advised comments today stand. You need term limit press upon him how critically important it is to join you and the ladd leadership of our National Security in a unified voice. He is putting you and your colleagues in an untenable position and hurting the National Interest in the process. You must find a way. Theres no door three here. Usually if a president is at odds, they come forward with at least what they agree on. This public disagreement with the Intelligence Community a much bugger riff than just some domestic spat. While this has been going on this week, while the president s been angry, tweeting from the west wing, theres been a slew of news of putins posturing back to cold war style of era of expansion trying to got involved in Global Affairs beyond his borders from venezuela, to north korea to africa. We have the Washington Post scoop that moscow presented to north korea about the as pblt of russia building a puck. I think one of the things that really stood out most in this intelligence hearing that i this was really worrisome to experts at home is that the president is also completely missing this threat of china and russia for the first time uniting against the u. S. Republicans are reacting to it as well. It want just democrats. The senates second ranking republican also criticized the president s tweets yesterday saying i dont know houlw many times you can say this but i prefer the president who stay off twitter, particularly with regard to these important National Security issues. I think in those cases when it comes to their judgment take into consideration what theyre saying. And then also Mitch Mcconnell a couple of weeks ago writing a all right the day after the head of the department of defense resigned. And general mattis said im resigning because i disagree with you and your policy of retreat which will empower the iranians and isis and then Mitch Mcconnell wrote a letter saying you need to appoint Somebody Just like them. These republicans are a little slow on the take about a will the of things, it taken them about two years, but they are starting to speak out on Foreign Policy matters that they really, really need to influence the president on. Absolutely. As the saying goes, facts are stubborn things. Thats what we saw yesterday. And even amidst all of the political back and forth in washington, were starting to see the most Senior Leaders observe the fact that facts are stubborn things. And, by the way, on one thing we havent really hit on i think enough, is the islamic state. It is not defeated. And its not only testimony were seeing that blew up a cathedral a couple of days ago, that killed americans in syria, its like walking away from a fire thats still smoulderring. Facts matter. The or area that the president has been using his tweets to mock the facts is Climate Change. This is serious. This will ultimately be i think strategically something that will have enormous impact in the country and around the world. To continue to mock it, this is going to happen. This will not look good when a lot of the people who are now supporting him, they and their children and their childrens children pay this outside price for simply being missing in action on the Climate Change issue. These mocking tweets will not look so good. Mitch mcconnell saying its tempting to retreat to the comfort and security of our shores but there is still a great deal of work to be done. Still ahead on morning joe, the government is making a border offer about revamped talks and there is nothing in it about is accusing democrats of teaming first, bill karins, whats going on . There are hundreds of thousands of flights cancelled. That snow squall that went through new york yesterday caused significant problems on the road. Heres a picture. The building just about disappears. It almost like a thunderstorm in the summer. Its 15 minutes of reallyin tense snow went through many areas of the northeast. So where are we right now . 121 Million People, about within third of the pop laegs of the our country are under a wind chill advisory today. Why would we hit negative 70 in wheelie, california. The question is are we going to get that record in chicago . Negative 27 is the alltime coldest temperature. Right now were at negative 21. As weve been saying, this is discussed an historic outbreak. Its going to be short lived. We have a huge warmup coming into this weekend. 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Its one of three entities the special counsel accusing of helping to meddle in the 2016 election. A twitter account called hacking redstone, included information that could ntained file to conquer management in the discovery process. It was altered and released as part of a Disinformation Campaign. The web site was eventually linked back to russia. It is aimed at explaining why mueller is opposed to sharing evidence with the accused russian troll farm. You really have to wonder sometimes how stupid some of these people are, gates and manafort and these guys going in and lying to bob mueller. That never ends well. No. And you have this company linked to russia all through the documents and sending them out there. You know what, just leave bob mueller alone if hes in your sights. Its just not going to dont poke the bear. You dont pull on supermans cape, you dont spit in the wind. A russian entity is interfering in the investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election, not quite learning their election, it appears. By the end of this we may lock at the big, bad russians and say there was some real incompetence in there as well. Indeed. Youve got to ask yourself how capable are the russians if theyre going to put a scheme like this into play. This ought to tell us, a, theyre not ten feet tall certainly and, b, theyre very discoverable if we are willing to shine a light on this. On them being discoverable, what impact do you think muellers filings had several months ago where we told the russian and the world not on do we know where you hacked us from, we know what the building was, we know what key strokes you hit, we know what officer was sitting at the computer when you were doing that. In fact, we know so much more about you than you will ever hope to know about us. What message does that send to the russian Intel Community . Its kind of a twoedged sword. Its a feelgood moment certainly and it might have some capability in terms of deterring them a bit. On the other hand, joe, and you know this you dont want to give the information. Exactly. At the end of the day, the information is valuable but your sources and methods are the crown jewel. But does that act as a deterrent . So far the answer is no, we see them continue to probe. Russian Foreign Policy, talk about getting a lot of mileage out of a pretty weak hand, theyve gotten extraordinary return on what theyve done in the middle east and ukraine, with american elections, with brexit. I open this to the table and any viewer, please find me over the last in modern history, please find. He a country, a weaker country playing a stronger hand at the same time that their global competitor, a stronger country, is playing a weaker hand. Madeleine albright talked about that yesterday. I cant think of an example. No, there is not one. And here you have to give credit, if you will, to Vladimir Putin, who is a very capable tactician. Hes a bad strategist in the sense that he will eventually lead russia down a rabbit hole. Russian needs to integrate with the west, thats their future. China looks at all their resources like nobody lib there, lo like my dog looks at rib eye steak, its really tasty. Strategy will fail russian in the end. I always accuse donald trump as being a day trader. Totally. But Vladimir Putin is a day trader. Heres a country that desperately need

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