With us is jonathan lemire. Adrienne is with us happy. And john meacham, and ill just say were very happy hes here. A lot to talk about this morning. We kick off the week following a number of important headlines, including the aftermath of the easter bombings in sri lanka. Hundreds dead. Well get an update on the investigation. Plus theres a new name in the race for president. Congressman seth moulton is the 19th democrat and fourth member of the house to jump in. And ukraine elects a new leader with an unusual resume. Ill say that. Yeah. What it means for in a very complicated part of the world. By the way, can i just tell you that despite the president as angry as he was, both the president and his aides want to tell you that theyre happy. I think this shows resilience and i think it shows the sort of cando attitude needs to have even after one has been found guilty in a report when found guilty of obstruction of justice and information that he directed his white house attorney to fire Robert Mueller, which Michael Gaetz ga he said he wouldnt. And also, of course, they kept telling trump kept telling key figures basically encouraging people not to tell the truth time and time again. You had Corey Lewandowski letting pop know that mule are h mueller had to be fired and hes still very happy despite a report thats actually really devastating, will destroy his legacy for good. We would go to john hapmeacham act about the himself tostorici. And the president s ratings once again dropping, in the 40s. His claim of total exoneration seem to be ringing hollow with the public. The polls show the president s approval dropped to a new low for this year. A new low . Its even lower than its been . Yes. The ipsos reuters poll found trumps job approval has sunk to 37 , down 6 points below where it was, 56 disapprove,s th tha trumps worst performance in over a year. And yet hes a cando sort of fella, his chin stays high, he never tweets negatively. President trump spent the weekend at his florida club trying to project hes happy and calm, yet his anger over the Mueller Report continued to boil over in public view. The white house took the rare step of releasing photos of the president with radio host Rush Limbaugh on trumps golf course. Happy. Unusual since they typically dont even confirm hes playing golf during his frequent visits to golf properties. The president later retweeted his director of social media, the guy who used to run his club, who wrote, i am with the president at the southern white house. I have never seen him happier. See, hes happy. Trump then sending that message himself, quote, i have never been happier or more content but what did he do all weekend . Well, he continued to fume over the 448page Mueller Report, alleging he has been historically mistreated. While aides and allies went on television to dispute the report of trumps reaction when he learned the special counsel had been appointed, when he said, quote, oh, god, this is terrible, this is the end of my presidency. Ive been by Donald Trumps side uninterrupted for three years practically now, i have never heard him this is the end of my candidacy, the end of my presidency and weve been in some pretty tough situations together. In a is n that is not the way he speaks. Ive been next to trump, ive never heard him be debbie downer. So anybody who says hes said my presidency is over is an absolute liar. Its almost as if theyre reading talking points sent out by somebody they would never do that on fox news. An innocent man does not screech and complain and wine all weekend. The remarkable thing is, john, sarcasm aside, this just shows how incapable this president is from doing anything thats not just on the front of his mind. Hes been very angry all weekend. It wasnt in his best interest politically to show that anger and he just cant help himself. Its almost as if someone at maralago said you know what would really make them all mad is if you were happy. And he said, yeah, im happy. What continues to be so striking is and this is not sarcastic at all, and i genuinely dont understand it, is given his level of support with those that are inclined to support him, with his base, why there has never been from the moment he moved from escalator to plausibility as a candidate and then ultimately to the presidency of the United States, why hes never been able, forget the national trrinterests, im being that my naive but why he never able to see his selfinterest would be served by say 25 of normalville, follow 25 of the street signs, you dont have to follow them all, but wheres the infrastructure bill, wheres the Prescription Drug reform, why not figure out a way to get that 37 back to 47 or even 50. And he just insists on living in the bubble that you saw with rush and you saw there with conway and luCorey Lewandowski. I think we understand why he got elected, thats about populism, about unease, what ten president ial elections, clinton or bush was on 80 of the tickets, okay, we get all that. But why no concession to, no acceptance of the topography of normalcy that would benefit him. I dont understand that. In a that is the great myste mika and me who have known the man for over a decade and have seen him. And still people are surprised when they can see he can be a normal man. Hillary clinton said hes a fun guy. Hooves friends with democrats. He was friends with schumer and all of them and dealt with them. So that has been the great mystery. Likewise, the great mystery to me, on a weekend like this weekend, the mule aeller report released, but he dodged the bullet, dodged the legal bullet, so why not at least be happy or play happy and stay off of twitter. Were not just talking about him doing something this weekend that impacts the polls and maybe would help hmm two or three points one way or the other, this is more about the central mystery of donald trump as a politician and why he does things, again, not on that are against the american interests but he is consistently doing things that are against his own political interests and drives those closest to him inside the white house crazy regardless of what they say on fox news. Why dont we do some literature, how about some el elizabethan. He has scottish ancestry. He is macbeth presumably. He feels guilty or henry iv. Hes someone who feels he has done something illegitimate to win power and instead of boldly moving forward, he is obsessed with that past. Maybe thats wrong but its as plausible as anything else it seems to me. Its pretty remarkable whats been happening. Mika, weve talked about this being the central mystery of the Trump Presidency from the very beginning, that he is a day trade trader and has steadfastly refused to do anything to get him to 50 . Youre looking right now at the only president in modern history who has never hit 50 in the polls. And the reason he has never hit 50 in the polls, mika, is because he has chosen not to. Hes chosen to continue to play small ball and be as divisive as any other president. Yes, we can sit here and talk about how its bad for constitutional norms and democracy, but at the end of the day personally its bad for his own presidency and political brand when he could make choices that get him into the mid 40s, maybe even up to 50 . And lets not underestimate the lying and the day trading and the manipulating of the truth and the implications it has on this country. We cant be dower 24 hours a day, but i feel it every time i watch the news or read the paper and listen to the way he is acting, kellyanne, Sarah Sanders, everyone in this administration who shills for this president , acts like lackeys for this president , lies for this president. This is not normal and my daughters, who this is the first presidency theyre witnessing first hand, this is really bad. And Rudy Giuliani went on tv continuing to manipulate the truth, arguing that talking to the russians and that whole thing, no big deal. Take a look. The russian government interfered in the 2016 president ial election in sweeping and systemic fashion. Do you and the president accept that as a fact . We do. Theres no reason not to accept it. And the president accepts it as well . Im sure he does. So it is now okay for political campaigns to work on stole i dont know material from foreign adversaries . It depends on the material. It depends on where it came from. Youre assuming the giving of the information is a campaign contribution. Read the report carefully. The report says we can conclude that. You would have accept information from russians against a candidate if you were running in the president ial election . I probably wouldnt. I wasnt asked, i would have advised just out of excess of caution doesnt do it. But youre saying there is nothing wrong with doing that. Theres no crime. Im not talking about crime. Woere going to get into morality . Yeah. Thats not what prosecutors look at, morality. Thanks, rudy. Proud of you. What do you think about one of the president s top advisers that its okay to get stolen material from russia but for republicans, this sets the precedent. They are now saying its okay for Bernie Sanders, if Bernie Sanders decided to get stolen material and, you know, from china about mike pence, that would be okay, or Elizabeth Warren, it would be okay to get hacked material from the iranians and use it in an election. This is bizarre, is it not . There is no justification for that, is there . What National Security concerns does this raise for you . Well, let me start by kind of going all john meacham. If hes going to raise the specter of macbeth, you have to pull the approximate line out of it that life as yet a tale of sound and fury told by an idiot signifying nothing. We feel rear arriving at that point. And heres the National Security concern, joe, is this idea that its okay. Not everything has to rise to a level of criminal behavior before it starts to threaten our National Security. Norway to put that is if this is not against the law, we ought to pass a law to make sure it doesnt happen, although we shouldnt have to do that. The question is what should we be doing in the wake of the mule are report in addition to the political questions you unpack so well here. We ought to do a reveal in showing the world what happened and how we were attacked if even more detail than was in the report and reforming our defense of ability to push this back in the sogs networks, hardening or electoral system and lastly and most controversially, joe, we ought to be thinking about retaliate. What are the sanctions we are to place on russia now that weve seen the full spectrum here. In is a striking moment of National Security. We need to be doing all of those things if were going to avoid a repeat of this Going Forward. And we found out even in florida that the russians were able to hack into some in our home state, some hacking in the swing state of florida. Jonathan lemire, the easter rising of the Boston Red Sox. Not an irish rising but the Boston Red Sox swept the race this weekend. Jesus no longer has a monopoly on easter weekend comebacks, joe. Just stop that. It was three wins. They got a good start. They showed some fight, a couple ninth inning rallies. Now to your reporting. What can you tell us about this president who is actually raging on twitter, very angry behind the scenes and yet has the Staff Members coming out telling everybody how happy he is. His attempt to label message im happy doesnt really work. The president has been telling people according to our reporting over the last week and over the weekend at maralago, hoose very upset about the depictions of the report and in particular, hes upset at his aides, who cooperate with the Mueller Report. Who told the truth. Thats right. Its a shift in legal strategy that we saw from the white house Legal Advisers that has led to this moment, that initially with thai cobb and john dowd, the plan was cooperate with mueller, do your interviews, turn over documents with the hopes of wrapping this up quickly. Ty cobb suggested it would be over by november 17, he was off by about a year and a half. When the president realized what a threat this was to him,s that when they started to shift gears and decided to stone wall and went on the attack, both publicly, over on twitter, we saw giuliani act as a human smoke screen to try to detract and bring down bob muellers Approval Ratings and we saw a real effort to keep the president from doing an inperson interview. On the one hand the president still is furious with those who did cooperate with mueller. Even though there werent criminal charges in the Mueller Report, it paints the picture of a chaotic white house, of a white house where the president gives unth call, if not illegal orders and white house aides ignore him. And weep also see giuliani on the sunday shows again tossing out sort of statements like its okay to teake information from the russians, by the letter of the law in this report, it was not concluded to be criminal but what sort of moral example does this give . This is the president of the United States and within of his top aides suggesting not just a foreign power but a foreign adversarial power is an appropriate source to get campaign information. Again, what will republicans say in the future if a democratic candidate, lets say Kamala Harris, gets information from the iranians who is hacked the phones and the Campaign Offices of mike peps, mika. In a is actually the press didnt they are setting up, by saying its okay to get stolen information by foreign adversaries, thats exactly whats being set up. Its obviously a dangerous step. But, you know, you look at this report and the reason the president s raging is because he it exposes him. Hes been exposed as a liar. He runs around screaming fake news and a lot of his more stupid supports are like it repeat that fake news, especially as it pertains to this and yet you look inside the report, its not the news media that is pushing fake news. Its donald trump because its his own Staff Members. Again, before you shout fake news at somebody, friends, read the report. You will find that everything that donald trump said was fake news ended up being true. Look in the report and youll actually see that it was his own Staff Members that have yourified verified one news story after another news story. Of course the buzzfeed story about christopher steele, that was inaccurate. But so many other stories the stuff that made him look the worst as related to the investigation ended up being true. Senator Elizabeth Warren said its time for impeachment hearings. It began with tweets friday which slammed trumps disloyal behavior which she said it demands congress do its meeting and initiate impeachment hearings. She said i get a lot of folks say this is politically charged, democrats shouldnt go here, just stay away from it, theres an election coming up but there are some things bigger than politics and this is one of them. While warren believes impeachment is the right course of action, many of her fellow president ial contenders have been more cautious. Senator Kamala Harris told reporters she wants to hear from mueller before passing judgment. Would you support impeachment proceedings to begin . I believe that there is room for that conversation, but right now what i want is i want mueller to come before congress to testify. There is no question that there is good reason to believe that there was an obstruction of justice by this president. Theres no question. So adrienne elrod, its hard to come forward with questions about this report without looking political obviously. Having said that, there is so much in that report that exposes this president and raises legitimate questions about his unfitness for office, about his cavalier behavior with the truth, about his lackeys about he is lawyer just getting up and leaving because hes not going to do crazy you know what. This president has a lot to answer for in in report. Where do democrats what do they do next to make sure that they tamp down the political but step up on the moral andth fran duty to step up for the country . Mika, i think you just answered your own question. Congress does not have a c this incredible road map. It is now in the hands of congress. Congress has a Constitutional Authority to look into this and to frankly make sure that future candidates for president and future president s do not conduct this type of behavior anymore. I think we can walk and chew gum at the same time. I understand Democratic Candidates for president dont want the narrative to be all people, they want to focus on the issue, health care, jobs, the economy, that can be done. At the same Time Congress can look into these issues. We simply have no choice. When i saw giulianis comments yesterday making it clear that, sure, maybe material that might be permissive, thats something that candidates will have to build in. Youll have to determine whether or not donald trump, should he be the republican nominee, will be using stole i dont know material from a Foreign Government as part of his campaign strategy. In a is insane when you really think about this. The only way in a we can stop this from happening in the future, mika, is to make sure Congress Takes action, obviously by passing a law to make sure that this does not happen again but also to look into the Mueller Report. It is their responsibility, if you take politics out of the equation and you sympathy look at fact in a congress is the last standing ntity t