Roy cohn to rig the system for him. He wins with courtroom politics by the rigging of the system itself. Nobody would ever accuse Robert Mueller of rigging the system unless they were just roy cohntype hacks and he has one as his a. G. Turning the attention to joe biden now, listen, were always very blunt on the show so lets be blunt. We both personally like joe biden very much. I was on the phone yesterday talking to Democratic Leaders all day. They will not say it on the air. I did not talk to one of them excited about joe biden running. In fact, theyre all very, very concerned that he wasnt up to it, they were very concerned that he was going to go out and bumble around for two months and then he was going to put the democrats in an even worse position. So he has announced it now, the web site is live. Joe biden is running for president and now would be a wonderful time, willie, for us to remind ourselves and our viewers that everybody was saying about the same thing about donald trump this time four years ago. Speaking of those two, there is a new poll out that shows joe biden handily defeating donald trump. And that is the key right there for democrats. Through all the litmus test issues that have been put out there and candidates have had to answer about for progressive ideas, the core number one response you get when you polled democrats, whats the most important Interest Rate in a preside president , let say what the Campaign Looks like over the next few weeks and months, joe biden may be the one who can defeat donald trump. He will reach back to nostalgic and try to take some of that back in the democrats eyes. I would point out that donald trump is only a couple of years young are than joe biden at this point. The third run for president for joe biden, he ran in 1988 and 2008 and, joe, as he makes his announcement today, i think we can draw a Straight Line to a conversation you, me and mika had with him in a bar in philadelphia during which who said on tv the Clinton Campaign is not talking to my people. By that whe meant januarscranto pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, thats where he believes he can turn the tide, get those voters back and win the presidency. Well just see how he performs over the next few weeks and month. I hear all the same concerns you hear but well give him a chance and see what he can do. Weve got the video of the announcement. We talk, joe, about the concerns that we might have but i dont think the time has ever been right for joe biden and now might be the time. I think well find out if hes up for it when he steps out into the light and he makes his first, second and theyre statement. It touching on a Washington Post piece you wrote about you dont know until they get out there and they open their mouth and they get on to the stage and they say what they feel. I do believe he might be up for it. I spoke to him a few weeks ago and he sounded up for it. So well see. I understand the concerns. I do think the goodness that who brings to the table, the experience, the network of supporters that he has makes him formidable this time around. Go ahead, go ahead with the announcement. Talkke a look. Charlottesville, virginia is home to one of the greatest documents in history, we hold these truths to be selfevident that all money are created eequal, endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights. Weve heard it so often, it almost a cliche but its who we are. We have never before walked away from them. Charlottesville is also home to a defining moment for this nation in the last few years. It was there on august of 2017 we saw klansmen and White Supremacists and neonazis come out in the open, their crazed faces illuminated by tortures, veins bulging, chanting the same antisemitic bile heard across europe in the 30s. They were met by a Courageous Group of americans and a violent clash ensued and a brave young woman lost her life. And thats when we heard the words of the president of the United States that stunned the world and shocked the conscience of this nation. He said there were, quote, some very fine people on both sides. Very fine people on both sides . Are those words the president of the United States a signed a moral equivalence between those spreading hate and to those standing against it. At that moment i knew the threat to this nation was unlike any id seen in my lifetime. I wrote at the time that were in the battle for the soul of this nation. Well, thats even more true today. Thats even more true today. We are in the battle for the soul of this nation. I believe the nation look back as an aberration in time and if we give him another four years, it will change this nation. Everything that has made America America is at stake. Thats why im announcing my candidacy for president of the United States. Folks, america is an idea, an idea stronger than any armer, bigger than any ocean, more powerful than any dictator or tyrant. It guarantees that everybody is treated with dignity and gives hate no safe harbor and instills the belief that no matter where you start in life, theres nothing you cant achieve if you work at it. Thats what we believe. And above all else, thats whats at stake in this election. We cant forget what happened in charlottesville. Even more important, we have to remember who we are. This is america. All right. So joe biden is officially in the president ial race. He is the 20th democratic candidate to join the field. Joe, i liked it. What did you think . It was done very well. He delivered it very well. We talked about political athletes there. I thought also something again, hes such a nice, likable guy, at least for all the people i know that know joe biden and i know how we feel about him, that i smiled without thinking i was going to and he said thats why im running for president of the United States. It was like an old friend running. Mike, hes done it before and he hasnt fared very well when hes running for president. Thats one of the things that some of the people in the Obama Administration expressing concern have said in the past but i will say this about politics, show me mike, im talking to mike, thank you. I will say this about talking politics, its a funny thing that actually what people expect from you, your expectations, the expectations game is almost as important as anything and im not so sure that its not bad for joe biden frontrunner, presumed nominee, that so many people are doubting him right now. First of all, it puts even more fire in the belly for him to prove them wrong. Secondly, it lowers the massive expectations a little bit. So he goes out and does a pretty good job and people go, wait, maybe we were wrong. You know, joe, you could not be more correct on that. I think a lot of people when they think of joe biden because of everything thats been said negatively on the negative side of the ledger for the first four, five months, oh, he was awful in 2008 and collapsed in 2008 and hes a gaffe master and says some ridiculously stupid things at type, which we all do and now hes hopping back into the ring after a couple of years retirement. If he gets out there and he performs the way you just saw him perform, which i think he can, think pi people are going to say wait a minute now, thoo th guy likes pretty good to me. Thats where hes going in this campaign and were going to find out very quickly, i think, within the next two or three months, whether his effort has can be successful. I dont think it going to be a long, drawnout affair. Were going to see how he performs. And whether or not the 2018 19 version of joe biden is up for the task. You look, willie, 1987, then again in 2007 and i mean, its a long time. Yeah. 30, 40 kp. Ish, yes. I dont know. Come on. Math. I saw on veep that muslims created math. So con p come on, really. Have you seen veep this year, by the way . Oh my lord, it is wonderful. Anyway, if you havent seen veep. Joes been running for a very long time butch maybe for people that ran for the first time six or seven years ago, there is a strange new world, 2019. Were moving at the speed of sound politically and who knows, maybe that benefits joe biden, maybe it doesnt, maybe something that you said in 1987 that hung out there for dethree weeks and destroyed a campaign. Maybe its gone at the end of the day after a donald trump insult. And hes talked about those things. But i think what he cant do is he cant go through and apologize for of step of his political life. Weve soon young are candidates doing in 1978 i wish i voted differently than i did and if i had to do it today, at the amtrak station. I understand you have some world word from president obama this morning. Thats right. A couple weeks ago when we asked joe biden about whether the party had moved too far to the left, he described what will the former president do . Obviously a very important figure in the party. An obama spokesperson is weighing in immediately with this statement president obama what as lon he relied on the Vice President s knowledge, insight and the two forged a special bond over the last then years and remain close today. Its important to note thats not a statement that obama has offered for any other candidate entering the ways the president , the former president wants to and this will be the most southover endorsement. Make, what happens here now for joe biden . The announcement is out. What are his next steps in the campaign . So the Biden Campaign tells me and we can now say that the Biden Campaign that, video today interestingly starting with those words, charlottesville, virginia, thats the first pill pillar. The second well see on monday. His first public going to be an and they will hool travel to all four el states, building up, talking to vetters and building to a major public rally sometime next month that will talk about joe biden is not necessarily saying im a candidate who is going to appeal but try to appeal to the most aggressive elements in this base. This is thats the signal theyre trying to send with this rollout. And mike, thanks so much. So, joe, again, former president blaum saying of his Vice President one of the Bernie Sanders decisions ive ef made he then sued his best he did get a really good vanity fair cover out of it he can always keep in his living room. But i want to go back to the apologies. This is nor thing i heard from Democratic Leaders all day yesterday, the fear that joe biden is going to apologize for everything hes donePublic Service and even there was a track epidemic three, hour years before that. It ripped apart black communities. It ripped apart america. Yeah, i voted for the crime bill. I wantf who will say blilkly i was opposed to the crime bill. They want to see biden be defiant and say you werent there, you dont know the champion ng was making at the time. Yes, we took a chance and maybe it turned out wrong but at least we tried. I heard that thing im and time given. What do you think . First of all, i will agree with you 100 , it really sad this is veeps last season. It been really great. I did not know that oh, my god. It brightens up my week. On the bide i dont know front a couple of things. On the apology thing, he did try sort of a a an imimage pi so that strategy doesnt really work. I think there are three things to watch about biden as this goes forward. One is can he handle himself, quite frankly. And it see the have said it didnt obvious will the second thing to watch carefully is going to be the money because the money game has changed dramatically. It is now very much an online game. Hes never done online fund race so i think moneys going to be an interesting barometer, maybe more interesting than pose for a while. And the third question to me is where does he position himself . Youve got this spectrum to people like bernie do you think about a wealth tax . At some point people are going to try to pin him down on these issues and hes going to have to decide where in this con sellations of democrats. He cant play to the blue check marks. He needs to be himself. He needs to railroad why people in scranton, pennsylvania love him, because at the end of this election, were going to be looking at the state of pennsylvania. As the decider. You know, democrats are going to more likely than not win which. Those arent going to donald trump. If tim russert were here and was projecting, he would say 2020 is going to come do you to pennsylvania, pennsylvania, pennsylvania, a and that is a chasing him around the campaign trail trying to get him off h hisamy, and then mike real quick. First of all, i dont know if he needs to be a different guy because it is a very different time were does he fit in thispersonally i would this i think it having interesting that who used charlottesville to be the center of that video. The president has had all of controversial interactions to put it lightly. But for Joe Joe Biden to effect focus in on that moment and focus be o and that this i dont think woman died and that there were not fine pop at a naz oo rahal oo shows us im going call you out for specific behavior youve done. I think it goes without saying that the a. Think his cam pawns put out a schedule but this he goes back to pennsylvania. So much i this tles wreck information in f itrum the campaign is worried about about this great victory he had, a victory that within sfchl and obviously theyre a little worried about being in pennsylvania. Thats where the battle will be and i wand to underl want underline, highlight telling candidates they need to ignore what the blue check marks said, what the manhattan leet say, if this class it is a lot of people youre not hearing from now, that wont be heard until the South Carolina primary that, determine who the it black working class americans. It is actually the type of americans that joe biden has always been able to appeal to. Good news for him. Well, well be watching this. Time now to get to other news this morning. Thofrts now say it was 9 union side bombers mostly from educated, middleclass back groupds in sri lanka on Union Authorities are vgting l the is am f. And Sri Lankan Police are still looking for any. Trump reignited the longsince debunked claim in a tweet yesterday, prompting a spoke prn for the shutterly ig and the summit between russian president Vladimir Putin and north Koreas Kim Jong un got under way overnight. The two leaders met for the first time early this morning. They shook hands and posed for photos for the . And joining us, keir simmons. What more can you tem us about the summit . Whoever is president in 2020, be it a joe biden i dont know or a President Trump or another, two of the most difficult leaders this can face as president right now. It was a diplomacy being opportunity to pivot toward russia after of course President Trump p and it was negotiations lasting an hour naf, much more than the 50 minutes that was expected. You know, mika, when you dig into the Mueller Report, one of my takeaways is actually how hungry russia is for a better relationship an as asked me to go to america and take his questionsage to perk. All right. Nbcs keir simmons, thank you very much. And still ahead on moe that as a imagine storesfchl the people that were so shocked and stunned by bill clintons personal behavior and then said oh, wait, personal behavior doesnt matter . And now suddenly theyre worried about wow snp well have that story coming up. Well have that story coming up. So, every day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to work. The United StatesPostal Service makes more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. Because the future only happens with people who really know how to deliver it. 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