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MSNBCW Morning Joe April 29, 2019

239 pounds. Thats what dr. Ronnie said. Hmm. Its monday, april 29th. With us jonathan lemire. Joe, youre creepy. Thats for jonathan lemire. Eddie glaude jr. And clint watts. There are three things we got to talk about. Oh, no. Jonathan lemire, chris sale now 05 for your boston red sox. Its a good thing we just gave him a 150 million, tension. Extension. And who could have seen this coming . Second thing, anybody on the set see avengers . Anybody . He went at 8 a. M. On saturday morning. I went at 8 a. M. On saturday morning. I dont want to do a spoiler but i never could have believed count chocula would have come in and done it for everybody. It 1. 3 billion now ticket sales . And finally, finally, let me ask you, lets go in to nasa control, Ground Control and, alex, tell us what you did all weekend. Well, the taylor swift video was a loop in my apartment. If 65 Million People watched that on youtube, our apartment counted for maybe about 35 million of those views. Zun believable. Two young small daughters so thats why. It wasnt just me watching it, for the record. The thing is, you talk about a very demographic. There are a lot of older young women watching that as well, and a lot of men, too. Incredible. It broke records. I thought that was cute. It was fun. Your daughter loved it. There you go. Were going to kick off the week with a number of developing headlines. Joe biden is set to pick up a big endorsement today but not from his former boss. In fact, barack obama just suggested a good leader is someone who know when is to hang it up. Plus, will the attorney general face off with democrats on capitol hill . There are Big Questions surrounding whether william barr will testify. President trump, meanwhile, is claiming credit for what he calls the sick idea of sending migrants to sanctuary cities. He also compared the southern border to disney land and suggested family separations would seasoned the right kind of message from america. Didnt somebody compare throwing kids in cages to day camp . This is out of that last. We feel they have a list of crazy things to say or propose or actually try and carry out if they want to deflect from what theyre doing. All of this is bad and needs a full stop of time or were going to descend into something we cant explain. Thats all unfolding along with a power struggle inside the nra. The members accused the Justice Department of organizing a coup. This is an organization in disarray. If you look at the finances, its extraordinary how much the top few people in the washington lobbyist branch of the nra have actually stolen from members. Theres so much selfdealing thats been going on inside of there and by stolen im just referring to the article in the new yorker, that broke this past weekend. It looks like this is an organization that has had some bad, bad leadership for a very long time and theyre in a real financial problem. Oliver north got booted out this week, in part some people believe because he was pushing very hard for an internal audit. Well, were going to begin this morning with the latest on the attack of a house are worship in the United States. One woman is dead and three others wounded, after a man opened fire inside chabad of poways synagogue on saturday. Authorities say the gun used was an ancht r. Style assault weapon. What a sbriez. Witnesses say the victim, 60yearold Laurie Gilbert krchlts jumped in front of the synagogues founding rabbi. Israel goldstein, who suffered gunshot wounds to his hands. The suspect called police to say he was involved. He was arrested shortly after. Someone with the same name as the suspect posted an antisemitic and antimuslim manifesto on a far right message board hours before the shooting in which he also claims responsibility for a march mosque fire and says he was inspired by the recent mosque attacks in new zealand where 50 people were killed. Saturdays shooting occurred exactly six months to the day after 11 people were killed in pittsburghs tree of life synagogue, which also which the manifesto also lists as its inspiration. Last night rabbi goldstein spoke with kasie hunt on kasiedc. Having hate in your heart will only destroy. We will be there. I lost my finger 24 hours ago, which will remain a scar on me forever, but its also going to remind me not only how vulnerable we are but how heroic we can be. Jonathan lemire, a spate of shootings during the Trump Administration inspired White Nationalists, inspired by different events but it all seems to come back to the same thing, that is hatred for jus, hayes, for others. You can go all the way back to charlottesville. Thats right. Weve seen the statistics bear in out, a rise in antisemitic incidents and we had the shooting in the pittsburgh synagogue a few months ago and sadly again this weekend. We saw real heroism there. The rabbi was say they go really felt like they caught a break because the shooters gun jammed. Otherwise the body count probably would have been much higher. There has certainly been speculation and condemnation of this president for not doing enough to condemn these sort of movings and you played that clip earlier of him on the lawn talking about joe biden, at the white house lawn, he was asked again about his charlottesville comments, which have been become in the news and again the president defended it, when who praised there were fine people on both side, he wasnt talking about the whie supremacists but rather those who were simply protesting the removal of the robert i. Lee, his statue from charlottesville. While looking back at his comments in 2017 when he first made them, thats a dubious claim. But the marchers in charlottesville carrying their tki tore chess, these were nationalists. Blood and soil and other tropes like that. It remains an indefensible argument from this president but one he continues to make, he will simply not acknowledges he made a mistake and he refuses to condemn this movement. And sycophants for drt donald trump have been trying to mack this slogan were somehow separated and there were good people there as well as bad people there. Clint watts, i dont buy that any more than i buy the white house and their claim that White Nationalism is otin the rise. The number does not bear them out. Weve seen increasing level this what really sticks out is what happened over the last two years. We used to talk about domestic terrorism. They werent motivated to violence. In the last two years that has changed significantly. We act as if each of these attacks are oneoffs but theyre not. They in terms of what their targeting should be who they should target, why we should target. Unless we get into this, we will continue to reacts these i action. The fbi is using a totally different rule set on domestic tich preemptively and anybody who so much touched the word al qae qaeda, instead what we do is wait for an attack, we see the damage and say, oh, just some bad apple. They know each other, theyre inspired each other and the pace has quickened. I think it was three years ago you had me on the show and these guys are inspiring each other, theyre networked on line and soon theyll be directing each other. And the Trump Administration is doing nothing about it. You look at the former coast guard member who had a kill list of media members, also the speaker of the house, nancy ples plessy, he had a kill list, he had a man who killed over 70 people, slaughtered dozens and dozens of children at a day camp and donald trump and attorney general bar and the trump Justice Department let him walk. The incidents and the lethality of violence that were seeing right now are far higher. The other thing is these folks have weapons. Often times they have training and they know what the training is. Kr cesaire. Its a and theyre on kill lists, theyre on target lists. You tell me why isnt barr bringing charges so a judge who is afraid of hassan and afraid hell commit acts of violence when hes released, why arent they charging him . Theres no good reason. International terrorists dont vote this is intertwined if you took the statements what al qaeda clerics said over the last ten are you talking about drpt here, ten enemy of the people and that is exactly right, talking about, that donald trump this weekend referring to feeb agents as scum. So, clint, are you surprised that Christopher Hassan is allowed to walk pending all of this . Is there any way the attorney general and u. S. Attorney and all of those who are basically overseeing whats the next steps are for him legally, you dont think theres any way they can keep him behind bars . Are they choosing not too . Ep absolutely stunned. I cant imagine any time after 9 11 where if we came across a suspect, they had that sort of targeted weed would be pof is a could pleatly different response were seeing in this case. Im very confused about the decision calculus on this. Can we just stop trite there . Because every time something happens with this Trump Administration that seems so out of order and so wrong and so against our core val i would like to point out as someone whose husband on this kill list that i am very concerned that these decisions are politically motivated from the its my analysis, my opinion but swutory and tell me why i shouldnt feel this way right now because this guy should stay indonesia bars for a very long time. Again, theres no reality here katty kay, do we believe that barr would have released somebody that had donald trump, mitch mcconnell, kevin mckparty, sean hannity, rush limbaugh, republican candidates the Top Republican candidates running for Political Office in 2020 on a kill list . Do we really believe that donald trump and bar would allow that person that had weapons and had a manifesto and had a kill list of the Top Republicans in america that he was ready to gand kill, do we really believe that barr and trump would let that prn walk free . Again, were talking about the rise of White Nationalism and here is a guy that is planning to lawsuiter every at the white house and the ge to which the white house does not speak out against whies nationalist terrorists when this take he would be being head under terrorism laws in the country. So theres clearly a double standard. I think what clint is saying about the networking of these groups, these are no longer its easy to say this was a oneoff, individual sfp they are looking at each other, they are drawing each others ideas, they are reading and writing the same things, the same words in their manifestos. Drawing ideas with one he had his kill list, he was red to dp and given, barr let some walk. And also even beyond that, eddie, its have interesting that donald trump for years was so enraged that break would not call islamic terrorism by its name. And so enraged that barack obama would not talk about the problem that america had dealing with islamic terrorism. And yet here we have a president who refuses to talk about the very real growing threat from White Nationalism. Theres no need to expect any kind of moral consistency from donald trump. We talked about the 19yearold individual who embraces nationalism, we can can talk about guns, guns used to kill multiple people. Theres an environment, a context that is allowing this stuff to metastasize. You have the coast guard, the churches in louisiana and now we have this. Just as were dealing with the fact a 19yearold is murdered, a 16yearold girl and an 8yearold child, donald trump talking about the sick idea of sanctuary cities, talking about immigration and disney land. What motivated the carnage at the tree of life . We have an environment that is so toxic, we have a president that is embracing a segment of the population that literally has the country by the throat, joe. We have to do something about this or were going to see even more die. Let me be very clear. You are on a hit list. Cant walk out of my Office Without how can i put this, without having my head on a swivel. My entire building is locked down because of threats. White supremacists have terrorized people day in and day out in this country and now they feel emboldened. We have have a sear i dont see choice to make in this country or were going to see even more carnage. Weve been saying for years now that Donald Trumps word have consequences. If you look at the other White Nationalists, if you look at what david duke said after charlottesville, this is a little game that donald trump thinks hes playing. He may say, oh, i distanced myself from White Nationalists. Did you really . No, didnt. The day after charlottesville was singing pro your praise, mr. President , because of why are wrds, because he because, david duke, and other White Nationalists across the globe saw that you brought aid and comfort to their bloody cause. Lets bring in jonathan weisman, the author o and there are will talk about moving the, from tel aviv have what the United States now has with israel. But at the same time, he has many nattists say he has inspired them to tack a far more public and aggressive stance in trumps america. How do we sort but lets focus on whats actually happening. The fact is that islamists and White Nationalists, white supremacist terrorists are attacking jus in the it seems thats where our attention should be. If people are murder aring people in the name of exclusionary immigration policy, something is amiss. I think all of the talk of antisemitism, that is hereus but it is not a clear and present danger to our life and limb. So jonathan, were talking about the problem right now that we have in the United States t buts can jus been. Absolutely. It is extraordinary i recall sometimes dont you think the American Press folks is too much on the threats that jus face in europe from White Nationalists, which we talked about for 20 minutes this morning and not enough from the threats they face in europe politicians are using the. But in youre europe it is a very bad time to be jewish. Epermanent. Does that plane jeremy corin dwrm is that why he makes the antisemitic statements that he makes . Absolutely. After the horrific glenville fire, which killed a lot of peop people, jarmy korb. All right, thank you so much jonathan wus money mmabb player in president ial politics is throwing its weight behind joe biden. Well tell but that big endorsement this morning and what it means for the state of the race. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. Ng joe. 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Joe biden will hold his First Campaign rally at a union event in pittsburgh. And in a New Washington post abz poll, support biden. However, when asked to name the candidate they currently support, a clear majority of democrats and democraticleaning independence did not volunteer anyone. This morning biden just received the endorsement of the International Association of firefighters for president of the United States. Joining us now, general president of the iaff, sharld shakeburger. He also serve as Vice President of the aflcio. It is great to have you on this morning. Thanks so much, mika. Its great to be with you and joe. Great to have you. A story i love telling to republican candidates was how in 96 when the aflcio was running ads against republicans, i would bash union guys left and right until a union guy came up and grabbed me by the arm and said, hey, kid, shut up, were all voting for you. Its the first time you understood there was such a crossover. Youve always understood these trump voters are up for grabs and a lot of them are in your union. So the question is how hard is it going to be to defeat donald trump in 2020 and what does joe biden have uniquely that other Democratic Candidates may to the have to beat trump . First of all, joe biden has the experience. His years in the senate, his years as Vice President and a proven track record of supporting not just firefighters in our profession but all professions. Joe understands the dignity of work, understands supporting pay, overtime pay, death benefits for firefighters families of those killed in the line of duty and he has the ability to speak to those workers in particularly the states that are key and the ability to connect to them. Ive said to many of those when we debate the current political arena and there are so many candidates of course now running in the democratic primary, but the fact of the matter is to win a president ial election, it doesnt really matter if you have 4 million more votes in california or a couple million more votes in new england, you have to win 270 electoral votes and those votes are key in the states of pennsylvania, ohio, wisconsin, michigan, iowa. Joe biden is genuine and has the ability to connect and touch and speak to those workers and those voters and bring them back from where many of them did migrate to in 2016. So how strong is donald trump still with some of those voters . Would you warn democrats that they still have a hard sell to make to switch some

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