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MSNBCW Morning Joe December 9, 2019

Repeat their interference in the 2020 election. Were running out of time to stop them. And the coin the course of this would ask that you not did he note false narratives. Ted cruz would learn something from fiona hill, obviously. Good morning no. He cant . He cant. He refuses. The thing is all 17 u. S. Intel agencies have told senators like ted cruz that thats a lie. Theyve all said that russia has interfered and that ukraine hasnt. And, in fact, ted cruz and other senators were warned not to repeat this russia propaganda. Dont repeat the propaganda from an exkgb agent, and thats exactly what he did. Its not that he cant, its that he wont. He is willfully choosing. Thats correct. Hes willfulry choosily choo ignore our intel leaders. Hes willfully dhoochoosing to ignore the heads of Homeland Security, and hes willfully ignoring the warnings from americas own intelligence professionals that donald trump appointed by the way, who say this is russian propaganda, please do not push it. And ted cruz from texas has decided he would rather be putins pup fet thatpet if thate needs to be to support donald trump right now. Its a strange legacy to attach to yourself, but he has done it. With us we have White House Reporter for the Associated Press jonathan lemire. Donny deutsch is here as well. Republican strategist and msnbc political analyst susan del percio and host of politics nation and pris of tesident of National Action network reverend al sharpton. We have a big day ahead of us. We do. We can talk about impeachment. We have to theres so much going on. Were going to find out this week what the ig has said. Its going to blow apart donald trump suggesting that barack obama was crawling around in his office space at trump tower and tapping phones. Igs going to blow apart so many theories. We can talk about that. We can talk about the fact that north korea now is openly insulting donald trump as a dumb old man or whatever words they use. We can talk about theres so much. But i think donald trump this weekend spoke for us all. Yeah. I really do. And i have no problem admitting this. I think he spoke for us all when he talked about the single issue that is most pressing to our Great Republic at this time. Take a look. We have a situation where were looking very strongly at sinks and showers and other elements of bathrooms where you turn the faucet on in areas where theres tremendous amounts of water, where the water rushes out to sea because you could never handle it, and you dont get any water. You turn on the faucet and you dont get any water. They take a shower and water comes dripping out. Its dripping out. Very quietly dripping out. People are flushing toilets ten times, 15 times as opposed to once. Then up using more water. So epa is looking into that very strongly at my suggestion. You go into a new building or house or home and you dont get water. You cant wash your hands practically theres so little water comes out of the faucet. The end result is you leave the faucet on and it takes you much longer to wash your hands you end up using the same amount of water. Were looking at opening up the standard and there may be some areas where well go the other route, desert areas, but for the most part, you have many states where they have so much water that it comes down, its called rain, that they dont know what do with it. So were going to be opening up that, i believe. The czar of toilets soon to be appointed. But, you know, jonathan lemire, i always thought it was so romantic and we like to idealize our president s. Kennedy had a reading and i thought it set mood for cam mf m kamala. Here, the president says the water comes dripping out. Its dripping out very quietly. Dripping out. Lemire, what say you . Joe, i try to think of myself as i ask questions for a living, i never thought to ask the president how many times it takes him to flush the toilet, ten, 15 times. It takes him 15 times, jonathan. Yeah. He seems to have thats a lot of flushing. He seems to have identified the central issue of our age as we move forward with impeachment and ig reports, Foreign Policy crisis. But apparently its the lowflush toilets that are first among chief in his mind. Were not sure where it came from. We asked the white house if theyre having issues with the pluming in the buildin plumbing. Perhaps the president is harkening back to his time as a developer and maybe at trump tower they have highflush powerful toilets. But well keep asking, joe. Well pursue this, dont you worry. Was he serious . He had the type of toilets, i guess, where you could flush it, mutt put a cinder block in it and it would break it up. I think when hes talking about flushing ten or 15 times, this is one example of everything the president saying either a projection or a confession. Oh my god. Yeah, im going to pause here because theres so many ways go with this. First of all hes probably talking about doral or mara lag go. Bedbugs. A lot of bedbugs. Theyre not even bedbugs, theyre like big. No, bedbugs irr s, i saw thas back after went to doral, and bedbugs just all over the place. Thats coocoo for cocoa puffs. If you were going to get someone in that drift and where hes going, thats not a right mind. If you took that in a vacuum and looked that the, if that was uncle joe, i dont mean biden, for that was uncle louie, you call the internist and say should we get him checked because thats a mind thats not right. Its called rain. Rchlts let lets move on. In just a few hours at 9 00 a. M. Democratic investigators will present the evidence theyve uncovered to the House Judiciary Committee. And republicans will have another chance to refute it. Chairman jerry nadler says he expects the committee to produce articles of impeachment by the end of this week. A track that could have the president impeached by christmas. We have a very lock solid case. I think the case we have, if presented to a jury, would be a guilty verdict in about three minutes flat. While the white house has declined an invitation to participate in the hearing, the president has been consumed by the issue tweeting and retweeting more than 100 times since yesterday. Mostly about impeachment. Meanwhile, republican senator ted cruz of texas is the latest republican to advance the russiapromoted debunked theory that ukraine meddled in the 2016 election. Here he is painfully on meet the press yesterday. You believe ukraine meddled in the American Election in 2016 . I do. And i think theres considerable evidence of that. You do . You do . Yes. And, chuck, let me say senator, this sort of strikes me as odd because you went through a primary campaign with this president. He launched a birtherism campaign against you. He went after your faith. He threatened to spill the beans about your wife about something. He pushed a National Enquirer which we know he had a real relationship with the im glad youre dragging up all that garbage. Thats very kind. Let me ask you this. Is it not possible that this president is capable of creating false narrative about somebody in order to help him politically . Thats not what happened. The president released the transcript of the phone call. You can read what was said on the phone zblaunld the bidens and you you yourself thought the biden part was troubling. Chalk, let me point out a game that. Medias playing. A question youve asked a number of people. Do you believe that ukraine and not russia interfered in the election. Now that, that in a court of law would be struck as a misleading question. Of course russia interfered in our election, nobody look at the evidence disputes that. The president of the United States does. Look, on the evidence, russia clearly interfered in our election. But heres the game the media is playing, because russia interfered, the media pretends nobody else did. Ukraine blatantly interfered in our election. The sitting ambassador from ukraine wrote an oped blasting donald trump. And there we go. I mean, its all its all the same. He, you know, hes now attacking the media. This is what the media likes to play. This is the game the media likes to play. And ifthy did they did it in af law the judge would strike it as a misleading question. No, because they would say we can take judicial notice of this because this is what the United States intelligence agencies, all 17 of them have said. Mr. Cruz himself was warned by the intel agency to not pass along the russian propaganda, to not pass along the lie that ukraine meddled in the 2016 election. Because, rev, the United States intelligence agencies specifically said that was a lie. And it was a lie that was being pushed by an exkgb agent as respe russia prop gand aaganda and th been doing it for several years. Ted cruz knows this is true. He knows hes been spewing russia propaganda and hes pushing it against a guy who lied about him repeatedly in the 2020 campaign and ends up, poor guy, its the last refuge of the desperate, ends up attacking the media for repeating the words of americas intelligence agencies. Last refuge for the truly desperate, i think that is the phrase that needs to be coined here. When you look at the fact that this has been totally debunked and that youre going to feed into this against ukraine at a time that your president who youre supporting, senator cruz, has held back military aid to ukraine. This is the double whammy, not only am i going to extort you, im going to blame you for a fans that y fantasy that you had nothing to do with that to protect the one that you were being protected for by the aid. If i was ukraine id be protesting in front of the white house. One, i didnt get the aid, two to one i need the aid to defend myself against is interfering in the election, and, three, im going to be blamed for being interfered with the election by somebody whose daddy and everybody else was lied on by this president. And he sits up there and defends the president that disparaged his daddy, other members of his family, and he himself. If that is not political desperation and people bowing to donald trump, i dont know what is. Its no wonder trump is in this fantasy world that hes a ruler when you have people that you absolutely disparage sitting is up on National Television making a political i am business smbos themselves. He disparaged his wife, suggesting that she was ugly. Disparaged him, having the National Enquirer run an article saying he had affairs with four or five different women. Constantly disparaged him, and yet he is now going out pushing russian propaganda and, susan del percio, also continuing the trump lie about it wasnt in the transcript. He said everything but, quote, the transcript was perfect when, of course, we know it wasnt a transcript transcript, first of all. And secondly, we know that even the white houses bleached version of that transcript, which wasnt a transcript, mentioned the bidens and said, but i need you do something for me as well. That summary of the phone call that ted cruz mentioned is damning enough, has proven the democrats case. Of course they spent two weeks having testimony to just add block by block by block to build that wall of impeachment. But, again, whats ted cruz you just wonder how low these republicans can go, how shameless they can be in defense of a man who not only would never defend them, but a man who viciously attacked his wife, viciously attacked his father, and viciously accused him of having an affair with five different women. And, joe, its even worse than just trying to go low to defend donald trump. The republicans and especially when you see someone like ted cruz going on the air, he is actually hurting our democracy. He is basically saying, you cannot trust our military. Our National Security. You cannot trust our National Security. You cannot trust the basic foundations of which this country is built upon. And hes trying to make it a thing about process and this. And to your point about what donald trump did to his family and to him, he doesnt care and hes willing to go down this rabbit hole for donald trump. But its much more significant than that. And we have to start looking at things like its kind of funny when we laugh at the flushing of the toilets and how many times trump said it and basically, no, hes lying. 15. 15. But its continuing on. And its giving permission for this new environment which is basically lying. We do not theres no facts, they are lying to the American People, and they are not being held accountable for it because theyre also playing to basically conservative media and trying to get their, you know, kicks in as far as im concerned. Its just pathetic. Well, you know, whats interesting, jonathan lemire, is that often when somebody will say that a politician is hurting our democracy, as susan del percio said, that could listen, that could start a pretty heated debate, except for the fact in this case. The Intel Community went to the United States senate and warned the United States senate against using russia propaganda talking points like ted cruz just did and warned them that there was Vladimir Putins goal as a kgb agent, exkgb agent was to preach a moral equivalency between russia and ukraine. To get the world talking about ukraine instead of what russia did. And they told senators, this is a lie, but this is something that hes been doing over the past couple of years. And in effect saying dont take the bait because what will it do . It will help putin and it will hurt us. And, yet, thats exactly what ted cruz and senator kennedy and so many others have done. And, jonathan lemire, as you said, these these republicans that are spouting russian propaganda got the Good Housekeeping seal of approval from the source himself, Vladimir Putin. Thats right. I mean, senator kennedy and senator cruz have been the most outspoken on this issue but theyre far from alone. Other republicans have also parroted portions of these talking points and backing up the president s belief that the ukraine was involved with the 2016 election interference when of course the entire u. S. Intelligence Community Says it wasnt, that they were not involved, that it was russia behind this. Weve had theyve taken their cues from the president who not just in helsinki and other place as to as time and time again not criticized russia for what they did because he feels that it would sort of diminish his electoral victory in 2016 if he acknowledged there was outside help. But, jonathan, at helsinki you know better than everybody because you asked the questions, the president chose to side with the exkgb agent instead of with u. S. Intel agencies. And even just the past couple weeks what did Vladimir Putin say . Thank god people are talking about ukraine instead of us. They can have good luck with that. So putin is actually thanking these republican senators in press conferences for spouting his propaganda and his lies. I wonder what the good people of louisiana and texas think about that. Well, we certainly have seen noolg suggests that republicans had a more favorable view of russia than theyve ever had because donald trump does. In helsinki he was given the choice, who do you believe, United States Intelligence Agency or russia . He chose russia. We had a few weeks ago putin in a press conference suggesting this is a good thing, the heat is off us now. The heat people are talking about ukraine being the one to meddle in the election, not russia. And lets also set it going forward. All these talking points from the president , from these senators, this just makes it hard for the u. S. To defend it from happening again. It makes it that much easier for russia to interfere with the 2020 elections too. We know the president at times has suggested he would come the outside help. And throwing away our National Security and anything else for the sake of trying to win, this devaluing the truth, donny, on top of it along with impeachment, republicans, and the Trump Campaign are going to use in the run up to the election. Yeah. Theyre going to use these lies to try and win the election again. And i worry, i worry it could work. Well, heres the way it is working. They did a study as far as talking to people who get exclusively their news from fox. 55 of those people said that there is nothing donald trump could do that would take him out of Office Versus 29 who get their news from other places, they dont care. I want to go back to ted cruz as a man for a second. Joe, you grew up in pensacola, i grew up in queens. What would your reaction be if somebody came after your father, if somebody came after your wife, the pathetic wienieness of him. I wasnt wait to run against a guy like that and say what kind of man not only lets it happen, but then gets on the bandwagon of somebody who went after their dad, who went after their wife, called their wife ugly. Joe, i know youre a very genteel man, in pensacola they debate things in a nice way. How would you handle it as a politician if somebody came after your family . If somebody attacked my family, if somebody attacked my father and wife, i would spend the rest of my life actually focused on destroying their political career. I mean, i just would. Id have no choice. Thats just thats just the way it is. Thats what a man does. Ive, you know, mika, youve heard me say time and time again, ive learned as i get older, you do turn the other cheek. You ignore as many things as you can ignore. But, yeah, it is it remains a mystery to me how ted cruz could lie and spout russian propaganda for a man in defense of a man who attacked his own daddy. And who attacked his wife w, wh caused pain to his wife by pushing a lie in the National Enquirer that ted cruz was having an affair with five different women. I mean, he knows donald trump was responsible for that lie. And yet here he is pushing another lie, but this isnt just Donald Trumps lie, its Vladimir Putins lie. And it remains and will remain a mystery to me why any man would would so blind

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