Relates to testing. Were testing, not necessarily with the more stringent tests, but temperatures, to make sure everybody is safe. Governors are expanding testing, and we ensure them we are going to continue to work in every way to support their efforts to do just that. The military and va have stepped up every step of the way to prosivide support in testing and care. Not everybody believes we have to do that much testing. Were going maximum, you understand. Some people dont want to do that much testing. Wait. There are some people who dont want to do that much testing. Wait, thats all who are those people . Everybody has been talking about testing. The governors have talked about testing. Ceos have been talking about testing. Who doesnt want testing . Small business Restaurant Owners have been talking. Everybody has been talking about testing, mr. President. Until you get widespread testing, you cant really reopen the government safely. I just who doesnt want testing . Who doesnt want testing . You know, its like some people, i dont know, some people dont want to have a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I dont know. Some people say, sir, i dont. By the way, willie, i counted three or four sirs yesterday in the press conference i didnt want to watch. You wonder if the guy walks to the helicopter and sees a frog, and he goes, the frog said sir. Sir, you look tall today. Where does he get the sirs from . Isnt that something about the frog is talking . But how would you like to be one of these lackeys that are following donald trump . Because think about it. If youre a trump lackey, and you have to follow everything he says, first you start by saying its a hoax. Its being blown up and blown out of proportion. And i know, there was a certain lackey that was attacking me for using the 1 to 2 million number. Then, of course, donald trump used it, like, two days later. Felt really sorry for him. But just the last week or two, trump talks about, i have total authority. He does the mussolini thing. Really, its pretty incredible, that an american president does the full mussolini thing, but he does. Then he goes, wait a second. No, no, no. You gov r knoernors have all th power. Be safe. You decide. Then, of course, hes liberate, liberate michigan. He does the liberate thing. And then yesterday, he comes back and said, hey, you know, youve got to be safe. Its a good thing we were safe. If we werent safe, 1 to 2 Million People would have died. Then you had dr. Birx going out saying, you know, we dont know who is asymptomatic. We dont know who has underlying conditions. We dont know who is going to die from this. Yesterday, we got the science view, with a lot of sirs, to sir with dumb scattered in there. Now, weve got governors in georgia going, yeah, lets open up gyms, Tattoo Parlors, massage parlors. Lets try to get people as close together as possible. Then theyre looking up at donald trump, who is saying, hey, you know, 1 to 2 Million People could die from this. This is bad stuff. It just he just keeps going back and forth and back and forth. I guess, i dont know why, so he cant ever be nailed down by people. The problem is, he just weakens his case every day. Yeah. He changes, obviously, from day to day, his point of view, from total authority to this is on the governors. Were not testing on street corners. Its up to the states. The states should have had the ventilators. This is the governors fault. Governor cuomo of new york will be at the white house today for a meeting with the president of the United States. To your point about the states, joe, theyd not provided evidence. Start with Governor Kemp in the state of georgia, that they met even the federal guidelines the white house put out last week, to say, okay, we are through the gating process, as they call it in the guidelines. We are ready because of data points a, b, and c, to open the gyms and the Tattoo Parlors, and to crowd people together on treadmills and Everything Else you do at a gym, im told. They dont have the data to support. I wouldnt know how the gym would look either, willie. Ive seen them on tv. I wouldnt know. I think youre right, that they are following what they believe is the instinct of the president. As you said, liberate, which is to open up your state when youre ready. It is time to get the country back to business. Thats exactly what Governor Kemp of georgia said yesterday, i have to get my people back to work. We agree, but you have to show data that reveals youre ready to get back to work. Well, also, i think, joe, your bigger point is, follow this president with care. 24 hours later, he will leave you high and dry, looking ridiculous, opening nail salons, gyms, whatever else. He will say, well, a lot of people could die. He wont be there for you. I dont know how many times the hand has to be put on the hot stove for a lot of the republicans, especially. His exercise is a cya exercise. Hes not going to be there for you. First of all, he doesnt want to be blamed for the stock market going down, so he says, this is a hoax. It is an exaggeration. Media coverage is an exaggerated hoax. Then he says 15 people will go down to zero. Hes told he needs to do a china pan and ban and europe ban. Toothless china ban. To say he did it. Saying president xi is doing a great job. Refuses to do a europe ban for six weeks because he and mnuchin dont want the stock markets to be hurt. Then we go through the maus l the mussolini. It is always then i am not mussolini. It is always to deflect to the governors about the economy and whatever. The second there is an outbreak from a gym, Tattoo Parlor, massage parlor, donald trump will be the first to say, we gave you guidelines, and you didnt follow it. I cant do your job for you. Dr. Birx basically said, we dont know who is vulnerable or who can be struck down. Stay home. That was the bottom line from the president s briefing yesterday. Jon meacham has dubbed this a partisan pandemic because of the divide and how states have responded to it. Were seeing that play out now, as a handful of red state governors are taking steps to reopen their economies now. As joe and willie mentioned, Georgia Governor Brian Kemp will allow nonessential businesses to begin reopening this friday with limitations. Gyms, Tattoo Parlors, bowling alleys, salons, and barbershops can reopen, as long as they follow social distancing guidelines. You need to explain to me how you can social distance in a lot of these places, because people come very close to you. Theyll styrene creen employees signs of a fever or res papirat illness, but they cant test them. Dinein restaurants and theaters will be allowed to resume activity monday. By taking this measured action, we will get georgians back to work safely, without undermining the process that we all have made in this battle against covid19. I will say, you know, when we have more people moving around, were probably going to see our cases continue to go up. But were a lot better prepared for that now than we were over a month ago. I can tell you, i dont give a damn about politics right now. Whatever. Yeah. Im a georgia native. What do you give a damn about . Im a georgia native, by the way. Watching that im scared. Doesnt fill me with immense pride. No. I think thats the same spot dont. That that governor said, well, nobody ever told us this could be spread asymptomatically. Yeah. Really . Actually, everybody told you it could be spread asymptomatically. Everybody. By the way, just for the yahoos out there, whether youre from the north, the south, the east, or the west, going, yeah, hes reopening the government, guess what . Hes going against Donald Trumps own guidelines, right . I dont know. Is he liberating georgia from the iron grip of trumpism . Because donald trump, and all his Health Officials, over the past several days have been saying, you need to meet certain guidelines before you open up. Yeah. I know we have a lot to read. We have jim vandehei. Jim and reverend al sharpton with us. Jim, i heard you talking a little bit about this before. Talking about your concern about peoples safety because of partisan politics. Like, listen, i dont give a damn whether somebody is a republican or democrat or independent. I want them to be safe. I want their children to be safe, their parents and grandparents to be safe. Some people are making some really stupid decisions just based on what side of the aisle theyre on in the middle of a pandemic where deaths are still spiking. Were at 42,000 or 43,000 now. Well be at 60,000 dead by the e 50,000 dead by the end of the week. You have a governor opening Tattoo Parlors, massage parlors, and gyms . I mean, i understand state parks, where people can walk and there is ventilation. I understand even beaches in florida, as long as people walk 6 feet apart. Theres ventilation and a huge breeze blowing. I do not understand these petri dishes of pandemic spread being opened. Mika mentioned it earlier, that meacham called it a partisan pandemic. The truth is, we just have a theres something problemen bro country, in that we live in two parallel universes. This will always be the inevitable outcome. People were first looking at it from the lens of, what is best for my family and community . Now, it is the partisan phase. You had, last night, the president of the United States on twitter saying, were going to lock down all immigration including green cards, and republicans will rally around that. Southern states saying, the hell with it, were going to open for business. You know other republicans are going to follow suit. The truth is, if youre an average republican, you live in a different world right now. You were living in a state that likely has fewer cases, and youre consuming a lot of content thats deeply spectacle about the threat of the coronavirus. If youre a democrat, youre much more likely to live in a pig ci big city. Youre more likely to know someone sick or dying from the coronavirus. Youre watching coverage that has a much more ominous tone about it. Every single thing thats happened in the last decade, even when it is a tragic thing that should unite people, it almost instantaneously, largely because of our consumption habits, and largely because of our political instincts, instantly becomes red versus blue. You step back, it is asinine in a moment like this. All that really matters is the science, your family, and what decisions should you make . I totally get the instinct of a southern governor or mayor wanting to get your Community Back to work. If you have the testing that you guys keep talking about, if you have the capacity at your hospitals to deal with a flareup, if you have a sound plan for being able to deal with social distancing in these businesses that youre reopening, then, yeah, maybe you can do it and do it in a phased way. What i worry about is what you talked about, the testing. Ill talk about it personally for a second. My cofounder had the coronavirus early on. I got tested because i had some symptoms. It took 1 1 days before i got te results. I get the results and, thankfully, theyre negative. The doctor says, by the way, there is a 30 chance it is inaccurate. A Family Member last night has to go to the hospital in wisconsin, who is in a high, high risk category. Goes to the emergency room, and they wont test you for the coronavirus. They wont test you for the flu because theyd use the same swab that theyre using for the flu to use for the coronavirus testing. The idea that localities are ready for this, it just doesnt match the facts on the ground. Thats where these mixed messages that the president or the administration sends. It hurts because you need to have this based on science, then make sane decisions so you can get back to work in a reasonable amount of time. I mean, it is crazy. Willie, youve got people that heard all through february, january and february, that this was a hoax. Talk radio people saying it is nothing more than the flu. Of course, that changed when people started dying left and right. Now, actually, social distancing has seemed to start to bend the curve. You, once again, have, again, cable radio or cable tv hosts, talk radio people, saying, oh, nothing to do with anything. We saw the tv doctors get on talking about it, people have to die. It happens, people have to die. Steven moore, let them die. He doesnt say it that way, but read through it. We have to get the economy open. Those people going out there and doing everything the doctors are telling them not to do, he called them the rosa parks of this generation. Its just i worry for them. Ill be honest with you, like jim, i worry for my own family, and i worry for loved ones. Because we have a couple of really highrisk People Living with us and around us. I dont you know, im getting notices, that baseball season may be started up soon by people who obviously are not listening to what doctors are saying. Its crazy. Like dont get your information from talk radio. Dont get your information from cable news hosts. Get your information from doctors, from scientists, from the people who know best. My god, willie, talk about the death of expertise, leading to the death of over 40,000 americans. I mean, thats where we are right now. Dangerous, really dangerous. Governor kemp in georgia yesterday, we just heard that clip, was sort of defiant. He said, i dont give a damn about politics right now. We dont give a damn about politics right now. Care about the health of your state, Vulnerable People in your state of georgia and across the country. If you look at expertise i talked to a leading doctor at harvard two days ago who said, here is what this will look like. He was talking about michigan because of the liberate and protests there. He said, a couple of weeks, itll look fine and theyll say, we were right about this. Then the cases will explode again. The hospitals will be full again. Well be right back where we started. It may look okay for a couple weeks, but you have to look down the road. I think dr. Fauci and dr. Birx would tell you exactly the same thing. One other point about georgia, as we talk about using data and science, youd like to believe this was a coordinated effort, where the governor talked to everybody in hot spots, in vulnerable places. We learned at nbc news last night that the mayor of albany, georgia, in south georgia, very, very hardhit city, had no idea about this. He heard about it on tv. His aide was watching television and came in and said, mr. Mayor, theyre opening up the state. The mayor said, whoa, whoa, whoa, were not ready for that. They had a couple funerals that led to big problems in the state of albany. Theyve had a terrible outbreak down there. Reverend sharpton, ill ask you. We talked about georgia. You can look at tennessee as another state, south carolina, a lot of the sec east states, if you want to put it that way, talking about opening for business. The state of tennessee says, by may 1st, the governor will completely lift the stay at home order there. We have members of the Action Network in albany that was just as outraged or more as the mayor there. The real question i raise is, what did the governor of georgia or tennessee or any of these states that are announcing the reopening, what do they know now that they did not know when they closed the states . The facts have not changed. In fact, were getting the situation intensified, in terms of the need for testing and in terms of the escalating amount of deaths. They are literally playing politics with the lives of their citizens, and its atrocious. Then we have these, in some cases, orchestrated demonstrations that are coming out saying that we are against the stay home edict, with no pa basis at all, other than to say, i want the right to flirt with dying. I mean, this is an absolute absurdity on its face. When we look at it, as jim says, that were so divided as a country, where were not divided is with the pandemic. This virus does not check off boxes, whether youre republican, democrat, black, white, rich or poor. This virus is an all demographic kind of disaster. Whether or not were going to choose to live together, we will die together unless we solve this and stay home until we find out how we deal with this. This is not about which side youre on. This is about all of us trying to stay above ground. You know who else said that yesterday . For one, brief, shining moment in time, after he had lulled red state governors out to make these reckless proclamations. Thats right, sir did, sir donald trump did. Everybody calling him sir wherever he goes, sir. His scientists believe this. Donald trump yesterday, actually, spoke the truth, admitted the truth. Admitted what his scientists and doctors have been saying for some time. That is, if these stay at home orders had been ignored, and if we were reckless with the stay at home orders, millions of people could die. Take a look at donald trump and dr. Birx from yesterday. If we didnt do it, you would have had a Million People, 1. 5 Million People, maybe 2 Million People dead. Now, were going toward 50,000, im hearing, or 60,000 people. One is too many, i always say it. One is too many, but were going toward 50,000 or 60,000. Thats at the lower as you know, the low number was supposed to be 100,000. We could end up at 50,000 to 60,000. Okay, its horrible. If we didnt do what we did, we would have had, i think, 1 Million People, maybe 2 Million People, maybe more than that. This is a highly contagious virus, and we dont know by looking at someone whether they have preexisting conditions or not. So all of us, as far as protecting others, must continue to do all of the recommendations, to ensure when were in an asymptomatic state, were not passing the virus to others. Did you hear that . That applies to everybody. Yeah. That applies to everybody. That does apply to everybody. Donald, thank you, again, for your support. 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