York times. The other is from a Public University of washington model often cited by the white house. First, the government projections show the daily death toll there nearly double, from about 1,750 deaths currently to about 3,000 a day on june 1st. This is pretty dramatically different than where people were thinking. New cases are projected to go from about 25,000 a day to 200,000. The president was asked about the report in an interview with the New York Post. He said, quote, i know nothing about it. I dont know anything about it. Nobody told me that. I think its false. I think its fake news. The white house put out the following statement. This is not a white house document nor has it been presented to the Coronavirus Task force or gone through interagency vetting. This data is not reflective of any modeling, any of the modeling done by the task force or data that the task force has analyzed. The other set of data from the institute for health, metrics, and evaluation at the university of washington has been cited by the white house in the past. Researchers there have also now doubled their projections to 135,000 deaths by early august. Back in april, they predicted just over 60,000 by august. Big difference. With the u. S. Now approaching 70,000 deaths, weve blown past that estimate. Its only may, if you can believe it. The institute says the revised numbers are because people are moving around more and because social distancing guidelines are being relaxed. Last night, dr. Anthony fauci addressed these new projections. When you have a lot of virus activity, and you know youre able to contain it to a certain degree by the mitigation, the physical separations, the kinds of things that weve been talking about, gateway, phase one, phase two, phase three, and you start to leapfrog over some of these, youre inviting rebound. Rebound is going to give you spikes, and spikes are going to give you the kinds of numbers. I dont know if those numbers, because i have skepticism about models, about theyre only as good as the assumptions you put into them, but theyre not completely misleading. Theyre telling you something thats a reality. When you have mitigation thats containing something, and unless its down in the right direction, and you pull back prematurely, youre going to get a rebound of cases. Well, you know, dr. Fauci said, you may want to look at these numbers. Willie, of course, fascinating the president accused numbers that came out of this draft from the center for disease control. He dismissed it as fake news. Once again, the president looking only at rosy scenarios. I dont know if youve heard this or not, but in february, on february the 22nd, when asked about this pandemic, he said he wasnt concerned about the coronavirus. He said it was one person coming in from china. Soon, it would be down to zero. By the end of february, a month later, when panic really was setting in over parts of the world, and certainly Health Officials very concerned that, by the way, was a month after joe bidens warning in late january, that this was going to get much worse. And donald trump is leaving us unprepared for a pandemic. In late february, donald trump said its 11 people. Going to be down to zero. 15 people, down to zero. Kept saying during this time and in march that this was going to go away in april. Dont worry about it, he told republican senators in march. Its just like the flu. The numbers are just like the flu, he said in march. They didnt shut things down. So in april, he lied and said that theres no way. This was not going to come back in the fall. Doctors, of course, very concerned. Now, hes dismissing more estimates as, quote, fake news, when he has been peddling fake news, dangerous news from the beginning of january. Let forget the cdc draft that talks about 200,000 people. Lets just look at this university of washington study that predicted 60,000 deaths just three weeks ago. Now, theyve doubled that to 135,000, 136,000 deaths. Lets look at the president himself. I know it drives him absolutely crazy that all of his lies and misrepresentations to the American People have made his numbers tank politically. Just look at the president. Hes revised the death count, i think, by my last count, hes revised the death count, i think, four or five times recently. As recently as a week or so ago, saying itd be 50,000 or 60,000. Were now, obviously, willie, moving towards the 70,000, 80,000, 90,000, 100,000 mark. Yeah. Well probably be at 70,000 by the end of the day today, joe. As you said, if you actually believe a report from the cdc, based on modeling from fema, as fake news, okay. Well put that to the side. What about your own words . He said at the foot of the Lincoln Memorial the other night, we are going to lose somewhere from 75,000, 80,000, to 100,000 people. Thats a horrible thing. He, himself, projected more than twice what he said two weeks ago, that there will be 100,000 deaths in this country from coronavirus. So this actually, as sophisticated as this virus is, it is actually not that complicated to understand how you slow it. As dr. Fauci tried to say in his diplomatic way, when you ease social distancing, when you have this mobility of people moving between states and spreading the germs, youll have more cases. The movement has been to slowly reopen economies across the country. We understand why. Wince why Everyone Wants to get back to work. We understand why Small Businesses are hurting. As dr. Fauci himself just said, if you ease up on soescial distancing, youll have an explosion of cases. That was the warning we got yesterday from this, again, internal document put together by the cdc, based on fema modeling. Then the public model, as well, showing youll exceed 100,000 deaths from coronavirus. Yeah. By the way, speaking of hazardous, the president s words, the president s assurances about this pandemic, its hazardous to your health. You cant listen. Again, hes predicted time and again, starting in january, that this was going to magically go away. That the chinese were being transparent. That itd magically go away in april. That it was one person, soon itd be zero people. You know, in april, we lost as many people as were lost during the vietnam war, fighting in the vietnam war, u. S. Troops. Pretty soon matt lewis tweeted this yesterday. I thought it was chilling. Pretty soon, more americans will die from this pandemic that donald trump told africanamerican leaders in february would magically go away, more americans are going to soon be dead from this pandemic than were killed in the battle of britain. British civilians who died in the battle of britain against the nazis in 1940, more americans will be dead from this pandemic that donald trump said was nothing to worry about, time and time again. So as weve said all along, i mean, im a baptist. I believe in late life conversions. Even if were talking about a pandemic. I keep waiting for the president to wake up, grow up, be responsible. He just cant do it. Instead of working through the weekend, he was rage tweeting. Instead of working last night, he was rage tweeting. This is one of the things that he was rage tweeting against. Again, its the truth. He rage tweets against the truth. Lets take a look. Theres mourning in america. Today, more than 60,000 americans have died from a deadly virus donald trump ignored. With the economy in shambles, more than 26 million americans are out of work. The worst economy in decades. Trump bailed out wall street but not main street. This afternoon, millions of americans will apply for unemployment. When their savings run out, many are giving up hope. Millions worry a loved one wont survive covid19. Theres mourning in america. Under the leadership of donald trump, our country is weaker and sicker and poorer. Now, americans are asking, if we have another four years like this, will there even be an america . Paid for by the Lincoln Project, which is responsible for the content of this advertising. You know, David Ignatius, for those of us who are old enough to remember the original mourning in america ad in 1984, completely different time. I think whats so chilling about that ad, and all of these type of ads that come out, that by the time they drop the ad, the numbers are old. They mentioned 60,000 dead in an ad that just dropped. Well be up to 70,000 dead in the next day or so. I remember people putting out ads talking about 3,000 people dead. Within a week, it seemed like it had doubled. And were hearing from the government that this is going to exponentially get worse. By june the 1st, the number of deaths per day is actually going to double. Even against that backdrop, even against all of the lies and the false assurances the president has given senior citizens, have given the elderly, have given the physically impaired, have given the rest of us who have Family Members, who have underlying conditions, even with all of those lies and false assurances, hes still at it, saying, dont trust this cdc draft that was made with the help of fema. Basically, all the people on my task force and my government, dont trust that. Hes trying to push people back out to open up their businesses before they meet not my guidelines, not your guidelines, not mikas guidelines, notguide sanders guidelines, not the american marxist leagues guidelines. Donald trumps guidelines. His own white house guidelines, hes not even following his own guidelines. Its gotten so frightening, that even a lot of his close allies are condemning people that are going to rallies with guns and trying to intimidate legislators. This is a president who isolates himself more, not only from reality, but from a lot of supporters, david. Joe, that line, mourning in america, with the sovereign music, as we think of this horrifying month we lived through as a country is painful for all of us. We want to look forward. We want to have some sense of how were all going to come out of this. We look to the president for that kind of leadership. On the numbers, he doesnt know what the numbers are going to be. These are simulations and models. Its less that that bothers me, that the numbers change. That happens. Its that what the country desperately needs is leadership to mobilize the resources of government that are there. On the key issues of testing, tracing, even moving toward therapies, that leadership still seems to be lacking. Ive had a chance this week to talk with the ceo of ford motor company, who is trying as hard as he can to keep his business going, keep his workers safe and employed. What amazed me, joe, was he just said, were having to do this all by ourselves. We made a 70page booklet about how to reopen production as soon as we can. Weve got all the best practices. I said, are you getting guidance from above . What agency do you talk to . Well, we dont talk to any agencies. Were sharing with other companies. Were a dispersed, disorganized country, craving leadership and not getting it. Again, were going to have mourning in america as our theme for some months now. I just worry that were going to begin to really tear the threads of the country apart in this period pause people are frightened. They want to blame somebody for their difficulty. Its just a terrible period. One thing we say is we know it will change at some point and get better. Well, let us hope and pray. Mika, without washington, without the president running this crisis he said he was a war president. This was a war its like he is putting 50 state militias out there and saying, you decide how youre going to fight world war ii. Yeah. You 50 governors decide how youre going to land on omaha beach and scale the cliffs, liberate normandy, and liberate the rest of europe. You figure it out on your own. In this case, where every state is on their own, every company like ford are on their own, you dont have a Government Agency talking about best practices when ford calls up. Interesting youre asking that question, we have a manufacturer in inform thnevada that did thi. Also, your business might be more like the one in washington state, in seattle. They did these practices. You might want to give them a call. Heres the booklet they sent out. Well send you a pdf. You can look it over and talk to executives. Heres what theyre doing in florida. Yeah. Without that, it is literally every man for himself, every woman for himself, every governor for themselves. This is, instead, just a president who has been lying to the American People, who has been telling the American People from the start that this was just one person from china. It was going to go away. This was just 11 people. Soon, it is going to be down to zero. This was 15 people. Soon, itll be down to five and probably zero. This is going to go away magically. Rage tweeting all night long. It is going away like magic. This is a guy that said, hey, try hydroxychloroquine, or whatever it is. Kept rattling on and on about that until his own Government Agencies had to say, dont take that. It causes heart damage. Consult your doctor. Then he moved on. The next day, he moved to disinfectants. He moved to putting lights inside of people. The government had to say, dont do that. This will cause danger. The same week, mika, he was saying, oh, i dont think this is going to come back in the fall. This may not even come back in the fall. Of course, the scientists and the doctors, the nurses, that was the same thing as the president saying it was going to magically go away in april. Now, hes doubting the cdc. Now, hes doubting fema. Now, hes doubting drafts of reports. We could look at the university of washington report thats just in the past three weeks. It has doubled the number, the estimate for the number of americans who are going to die from this, from 60,000 to 135,000. This is a president whose false assurances are hazardous to your health, especially if youre a senior. Especially if youre a Family Member who has loved ones with underlying conditions. Please be careful. Please take care of yourself. The president is detached from reality. Well, and its honestly safe to say that if you listen to this president , and you do as he says or take his advice, that very much could be hazardous to your health and even deadly. Catty, beyo t katty, beyond the fact that even though somebody who perhaps voted for trump can see with their own eyes that hes not focused on this, when hes tweeting through the night about cable hosts or whatever, not the virus, and when hes saying things like, put disinfectant into your body, you get a sense that perhaps hes not focused. Can you imagine the potential if a president bush or an obama had to take the reins . They wouldnt be perfect, but there could be collaboration between companies that puts together concepts and ideas and moves forward together. There would be collab rieoratio between the governors and the states. There would be the defense production act to streamline the process. We would be in a different place for sure. There are so many and growing numbers of experts, especially in the science and medical fields, who believe we have wasted valuable time doing nothing or not enough or the wrong thing, in terms of dealing with this virus. Whats fascinating to me is the United States usually helps other countries. We usually go in, and were the solution. At this point, the United States of america, especially given these new numbers, is still very much at its knees. The uk is doing badly, as well, but the messaging there from its leader, very different. Yeah. Yesterday, we had a global conference, virtual global conference on vaccine experimentation. The big country that wasnt there was the United States. All the European Countries were there. China had a representative there, too. The u. S. Didnt even attend that conference. I dont see what they had to lose by going and having a presence. Why not collaborate on something as urgent as this . They werent there. I think we are in a really critical couple of weeks right now. Thats why the modeling is changing so dramatically and so much for the worse. As we start to move around, and we know from gps cell data that people are starting to move around in the u. S. I felt it. I can hear sitting in my backyard in washington the noise of traffic again. I wasnt hearing that two weeks ago. What we need above all right now is clarity of message from the top. We need to be told, we know you want to go outside. We know the weather is getting warmer. We know youre fed up with being inside, but we ask you, for the sake of yourself, your families, and those you love, everyone else, please do not move. Please do not go back outside because that is when we are going to see these numbers really spike. Right from the beginning, the message weve had from the white house is ambivalence. One hand, the president will say, stick to the guidelines. On the other hand, hell say, im not wearing a mask. These are good people protesting. Lets liberate michigan and virginia. That mixed messaging, giving with one hand and taking away with the ovther is the wrong message right now. If we open up, were going to see the numbers double as weve seen from the modeling. We can choose not to, but we need, as individuals it is a normal human thing to want to get back outside into the marks, shops, and get outside. We really need that leadership right now more than ever to say, no, this is very clear. Heres the clarity of the message. You cannot do that right now for the sake of you and your loved ones. You cant go outside. When i look around europe now, the message is clear. Its not clear here in the United States from the top. Itll be interesting to see from the top, as katty says, when the president goes to arizona today and visits an n95 manufacturing plant. Will he, in fact, wear a mask himself . Mike pence, of course, did not wear one at the mayo clinic last week. I think, too, it is interesting when you hear new york, which has been the epicenter for a few months now, when you hear Governor Cuomo say the worst is behind us. When you see the ship leave, the makeshift hospital fold up, the country can be lulled into a false sense of security. In a memo, it said, there remains a large number of counties whose burden remains to grow. When you see new york Getting Better relatively, though 226 people still died yesterday in new york, its not over in the rest of the country. Thats the message doctors fauci and birx are trying to get out there. Okay, weve done better. We mitigated in these places where it was worse. But it w