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MSNBCW Morning Joe September 17, 2020

Summer of next year. I think there will be a vaccine that will be initially available sometime between november and december, but very limited supply and will have to be prioritized if youre asking me when will it be generally available to the American Public so we can begin to take advantage of vaccine to get back to our regular life, i think were probably looking at third late second quarter, Third Quarter 2021 i think he made a mistake when he said that. Its just Incorrect Information. And i called him and he didnt tell me that i think he got the message maybe confused maybe it was stated incorrectly. Were ready to go immediately as the vaccine is announced it could be announced in october. Then to the question of masks at the Senate Hearing yesterday. Dr. Redfield also came out in strong support of masks to combat coronavirus. Face masks are the most important Public Health tool we have ill continue to appeal for all americans, all individuals in our country to embrace the face coverings. If we did it for six, eight, ten, 12 weeks wed bring the pandemic under control we have Clear Scientific evidence they work and they are our best defense i may go as far to say this vaccine is more guaranteed to protect me from covid when i take a vaccine. Its not more effective than a vaccine. I called him about that. Those were the two things i discussed with him i believe that if you asked him, he would probably say that he didnt understand the question but when i called up robert today, i said to him, whats with the mask, he said i think i answered that question incorrectly. I think maybe he misunderstood it you have two questions, maybe he misunderstood both of them but the answer to the one is its going to be a faster dis i distribution than he said. The Distribution Process isnt as much his thing as say mine. But i hope the vaccine is going to be a lot more beneficial than the masks. So President Trump said dr. Redfield was confused. After wards redfield said this, quote, i 100 believe in the importance of vaccines and the importance in particular of a covid19 vaccine a covid19 vaccine is thing that will get americans back to normal everyday life the best defense we currently have against this virus are washing your hands, social distancing, and being careful about crowds Jonathan Lemire you were in the crowd with President Trump yesterday, you asked questions about the contradictions he said the head of the cdc was, quote, confused by those two questions. He didnt look confused if you watched the tape how did this play out afterwards you have new reporting about what went on after the president left the stage thats right, willie. We can safely say this weve never been here before, in terms of a president so frequently and publicly contradicting the medical experts and Health Officials on his own staff, including here the director of the cdc who as you say did not appear confused yesterday when he offered a time line on the vaccine and messaging on the masks that doesnt square with what the president has been saying day in and day out and what he hope happens for his reelection bid. Yesterday the president said he was docked up by dr. Scott atlas, his new favorite of the medical team, that they thought a vaccine would be available to First Responders, emergency workers, the ones who need it most by years end. The president was leaning hard into the idea of october or early november, falling just before the election. We know his advisers want that to happen, thinking that could be the october surprise. I asked about masks, if indeed the cdc director thinks that masks are as or more important than a vaccine, why not considering the resources you put into developing a vaccine with not use Similar Energy promoting mask usage, even if its you and members of the white house staff wearing them, even though you are tested them every day, to promote the use. He also said that is not something he agrees with that leads us to, does he have confidence in the cdc director, the cdc director tried to clean up the comments rather than resign out of protest. Interesting to see how that relationship plays out in the coming days. And the moments after the briefing concluded, the president retreated to the White House Press office to watch the coverage of what had transpired he and a couple aides watched it on fox news. And the president turned to a group of aides with him, watched how he rebuked and undermined redfield and said i did the best i could in terms of trying to change the messaging of the moment which seems to yet again fly in the face of science two big things here, Jonathan Lemire obviously he wants that vaccine within the election period and he wants to be able to announce it. But there was even disagreement in the room as to when that vaccine would be available and who it would be available to was it First Responders, was it people who most needed it, was it the general public, and that would change from october to november to q1 to march it was a push to try and get some sort of vaccine announcement as soon as possible, who cares who its really for, who cares what the truth is the president just wants what he wants. Whether or not it actually is a fact something weve seen before, a pattern of his presidency. You brought up masks which would save lives, heres the exchange yesterday in the White House Briefing room. Why not have the staff wear it more often to set an example for the country . Im tested and im sometimes surprised when i see people sitting like joe, joe feels safe in a mask, maybe he doesnt want to expose his face i dont know whats going on hell be way away from people, nowhere near people, nobody with him, he doesnt draw any crowds. So hell have big circles, way far away theres no reason for him to have masks on. Lets bring in dr. Vin gupta, a pulmonologist and an nbc news medical contributor. And apologies dr. Gupta for having you repeat basic facts and science here but the president of the United States appears to be again making fun of or saying its less important for some to wear masks made fun of joe biden wearing a mask because he was far away enough from people this to me appears to be a massive disservice to the American People where were going to have 200,000 deaths, i believe, by the end of this week and the death toll keeps counting masks save lives, dont they good morning, mika. Thanks for the opportunity first of all, yes. 100 this is what we know this is where the current state of science is, now we have definitive proof of what the president knew on february 7th, which is covid19 is airborne. What should that trigger any leader, whether you have a Health Background or not that should trigger, not only let me make sure every american has access to a mask one that is well fitting and high quality. Especially with fog in the west coast that well fitting piece has never been more important. People are in psychological lockdown mode because they dont want to inhale the smog and be exposed to covid in many parts ofrt count of the country right now you say people are scared i agree with you, im scared members of my family are scared. A lot of my friends are scared, a lot of people i know are really scared and they wear the mask but there are a lot of people who are following the president and making fun of masks, running through stores screaming at people, getting in fights. My problem is they dont think they need to wear a mask how did we get here and how do we compel people to understand that their lives are at stake . You bet theres a real theres a clear reason why, its the president at the abc town hall making fun of the idea of mask wearing, doing so at the press briefing thats the reason were here the science is that if 95 of americans wore masks, we would follow the trajectory of hong kong, places that were puddle jumps from wuhan that have not experienced nearly what weve experienced. The reason why is that masks work to control an airborne spread thats why its not a vaccine is never substituted for a mask. Thats the whole point here. The president is basically saying a vaccine is going to be better we dont need masks is effectively what hes saying but we know the fda has been moving the goal post on efficacy of a vaccine, how they define success. Theyre saying a vaccine thats 50 effective in reducing disease severity is an effective vaccine. Thats not going to end the pandemic but if 95 of americans wore masks we would end the pandemic so the president is confusing the public. Doctor, i also want to point out the man the president has been leaning on was in the room yesterday, dr. Scott atlas, hes the one promoting herd immunity. Thats why you heard the president talking about herd immunity as a strategy i wanted to put that out first, you and other doctors told us how dangerous that idea is but dr. Redfield the director of the cdc couldnt have been more clear in his sworn Senate Testimony yesterday when he talked about masks and the time line of a vaccine. And yet he has a president come out and contradict him immediately, probably making up details of a phone call they had. If you, dr. Gupta, are in the position of dr. Redfield who find themselves in the position that dr. Fauci and dr. Birx have found themselves in the last six months what do you do do you come out and tell the truth come what may . How do you navigate this good to see you glad you asked the question. I would directly contradict the president and make him fire me because dr. Redfield and dr. Jerome adams who i had an exchange with on twitter to this effect last evening, at least dr. Adams, the Surgeon General, the Public Health spokesman for the country should care more about getting it right more than the job. So i would go out and contradict the president , if he wants to fire you, let me hit fire you. But the oath is more important than the title thats what i would do, willie. President trump yesterday just the hits kept coming also blamed blue states for the countrys coronavirus death total. The blue states had tremendous death rates if you take the blue states out, were at a level that i dont think anybody in the world would be at. Were really at a low level. But some of the states, they were blue states and the Washington Post points out that more than 90,000 deaths have occurred in red states and if that were the countrys total we would have seen the second most number of deaths globally, trailing only brazil the United States would still be responsible for the 11 of global deaths despite constituting only about 4 of the worlds population the depths of the president s lies are so blatant and brazen and there are certain outlets and organizations that just repeat them. So theres a part of the population that believes these lies and dont know what is really going on. Listening to dr. Vin gupta say that 95 of people if they wore masks we could end this virus. This is preventable. Yet the president is pushing us in a direction where more people are dying. And now talking about red states and blue states. Last time i checked, they were all american citizens. Yeah. It is striking how he is taking this virus in that blue state comment. And seeking to divide and pit people against each other more and the mask debate, which shouldnt be a debate, people should wear masks, it also feeds into that to a certain extent. People who are against masks versus people who are for masks. People in blue state versus people in red states weve said a thousand times the virus doesnt care politically what you do, which state you live in. The virus does apparently care about whether you wear a mask or not. But he is remarkably consistent in his ability to divide i think this goes back to the election he wants a vaccine before november that seems to be election related. He wants to seem like a strong person in charge who doesnt necessarily need a mask. That is election related and woodwards book, at least what ive read about it, i still havent read it, im sorry about that bob woodward, points to this idea that everything is about him. Is in context of him as the election is so whatever he appears to think will get him closer to winning reelection is what hes going to say but i think the one thing that strikes me about this, especially in that conversation between dr. Redfield and President Trump, is it seemed like dr. Redfield was saying something ive been thinking for a while, which is science isnt magic. These vaccines and these Vaccine Companies are moving at an incredibly quick rate. I think everyone in the country, no matter what party wants a vaccine because that will perhaps get us back to Something Like the normal lives we used to lead but its not magic. Even if we had a vaccine, lets give President Trump what he wants, say we have a vaccine by november or december, the amount of coordination and logistics that will be involved to get it produced and then get it to out in the states and then decide is it the elderly who get it, is it First Responders who get it first, is it children who get it first, whatever that is is going to take a massive amount of federal government logistics to get it done it doesnt seem like we are treating this as though we have a huge, huge project to do because it appears because the president s eye is only on saying things that will make everybody feel better before we get to the election. Its been that way since the beginning as Bob Woodwards book has revealed to us dr. Gupta if we cut through some of the fog we saw created by the president yesterday on the question of vaccines, how will this roll out . It seemed that dr. Atlas was suggesting that the most Vulnerable People would get it quickly whenever they have it, the president said itll be sometime around election day, we cant take him at his word, assume its a little later than that they get it first and how long does it take to get into the general population when do you see a time when most or all americans who need it will be inoculated, will have the vaccine . Dr. Fauci and others a little closer to the data are suggesting by the end of g2, most americans will have had an initial dose of 2021. The challenge is all the data, all of these vaccines are not that strong in inducing an immune spot immune shot, so that means you need a booster like our kids need a booster, you need a booster so not only do you need one, you need a second. And maybe some individuals may need a third depending on the nature of the vaccine. But thats 660 million doses of a vaccine, not 330 thats a key piece, iwillie. One of two Los Angeles County sheriffs deputies injured in an apparent ambush attack over the weekend has been released from the hospital the l. A. County sheriff tweeted the news last night saying the deputy has a long road to recovery adding we are in this together the two deputies were shot in their patrol car in compton, saturday night the second deputy was also critically injured in the shooting her condition right now is unclear. A military whistleblower said federal officials sought use of a microwavelike weapon designed by the military to make people feel like their skin is burning when in the range of invisible rays to deal with protesters outside the white house on june 1st that Law Enforcement forcibly cleared Lafayette Square major adam demarco of the d. C. National guard, the lead military officer in the department of defense for the d. C. Region. Said he was copied on an email from the Provost Marshall that said he was looking for two things, a long range accuoustic device and a device called an active denial system as a way to disperse crowds. The same device pentagon officials were reluctant to use in iraq. Demarco provided his account as a whistleblower and written responses to the House Committee on naturcural resources obtainey nbc news said he responded the guard was not in possession of either device. And what is now tropical depression sally made landfall near Gulf Shores Alabama yesterday as a category 2. More than half a Million People lost power due to the strong winds. In downtown pensacola, florida nearly 30 inches of rain flooded the streets. The National Guard has been called in to assist with Recovery Efforts lets go to bill karins to see where we stand on this. We have issues with water, flash flood warnings in atlanta every night and the heavy rain headed to the mid atlantic its still a big huge rain maker. We saw record flooding last night in alabama, georgia and florida. Heres where the storm is currently, now hitting over the top of georgia, some of the heaviest rainfall moving through georgia into South Carolina later today. You can see the maroon behind me, this area is under a flash flood warning. And thats what slides up to the carolinas throughout the day and into the even to southern virginia this is the rainfall forecast. The highest totals will be in areas of the Western North carolina, then the center of the state, charlotte, raleigh, norfolk and virginia could get 4 inches of rain its going to happen in a short time period. Let me catch you up on where we are with the tropical frenzy we have vicky, not a concern we have to watch teddy closely and the western gulf of maine k gulf of mexico, a storm. And thats our last name, w. And then we have to go to the greek names. As far as teddy goes let me fast forward five days from now, the storm comes close on monday to bermuda and then we have big di

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