With these types of weapons. They do have high powered and sniper rifles on the roof of the white house. Jim miklaszewski is in the White House Briefing room, temporary mandatory home for a lot of members of the media. Jim . The lockdown here in the white house has been lifted. Reporters and camera crews are now permitted to go outside onto the white house lawn. And since were able to move here from the building itself, one would imagine that we could also exit the white house grounds proper and get outside the fence onto pennsylvania avenue. But id like to stress again that the white house itself and anybody in the white house, was not in any apparent threat, because the shooting occurred at a guard post, a secret Service Guard post on the opposite side of the Old Executive Office building, which, as you walk, is about at least a block and a half to as long as two blocks from the white house itself. And while we are told that this individual had a gun and was apparently at least brandishing the gun, and had been ordered several times to put down the weapon and did not and was subsequently shot, weve had nobody tell us that there was a shot fired by the individual suspect, or whether the gun itself was even loaded. And for somebody to approach a guard post outside the white house, heavily Armed Secret Service and local and park police, all in the vicinity, brandishing a gun, one has to wonder what his motive was, and we cant we dont want to speculate, but so many times you see an incident where somebodys either trying to gain attention, or its what Law Enforcement calls suicide by cop. So thats undetermined at this time, but it sounds the way this individual was acting, just brazenly walking up to that guard post, that perhaps he had intended, or at least would understand what the outcome would be, brian. Jim miklaszewski inside the press briefing room. And for our viewers who have seen a lot of our press coverage from the white house, jim is in front of the sliding door that will open when the president or press secretary comes out to stand behind the podium and brief the press. As you can hear from the background noise, even though the lockdown has been lifted, a lot of folks are stuck inside because theyre reporting live on this. And theyre not out at their locations on the lawn. We say this every time excuse me every time theres an officerinvolved shooting, theres not a cop in this country who goes to work in the morning and says, today im going to discharge my weapon. In fact, most of them retire having never discharged their weapons. And the reports were getting from this actual showdown in the street, indicated the perpetrator was warned several times, drop your weapon, drop your weapon, before they discharged what apparently was a single round. One report that it was in the abdomen, another that it was in the chest. Well go with the subject being shot in the chest and being treated at George WashingtonUniversity Hospital. The emergency room that was in the news because they saved the life of president Ronald Reagan that awful day decades ago. So the white house lockdown has been lifted. Jim miklaszewski makes an important point that where this encounter was, on the other side of the enormous Old Executive Office building, there was no danger. There was no angle conceivably where the white house could have been in danger of receiving one of the rounds from either firearm involved in this. You have the Treasury Department on one side of the white house, and you have the Old Executive Office building on the other. Looking at this view, Treasury Department is on the right, during the label that says 15th street. And the Old Executive Office building is on the left. In the center, that blue dot, is the fountain in the middle of the south lawn. That elongated lawn, that is curved at the bottom is the elips, and from there, all the monuments begin and people can come and go freely on the mall. There is the view from the apex of the elips, looking back at where the helicopter lands, and notice, secret Service Still visible on the roof of the white house. Pete williams rejoins us once again with more. Pete . I beg your pardon . Weve lost communications with pete who is in our washington newsroom. And perhaps talking to someone else. A brief point on what Pete Williams brought out a segment before. Theres something called jurisdiction. It exists in all cities and towns in this country, is this a Police Matter or a Fire Department matter, or an ems matter. In washington, secret service has jurisdiction over the white house grounds. There are situations where outside the fence, the median of grass, or the sidewalk is under the jurisdiction of the parks department. The street is under the jurisdiction of the metropolitan police department. Or to petes point, kind of all three of them in a confluence of jurisdictions. Something that starts out as a secret Service Matter will often be prosecuted as a secret Service Matter. The metropolitan police in washington are telling us their role today as it often is, was to assist. They patrol very heavily the perimeter of the white house, even though the white house complex is guarded by the Uniformed Division of the secret service. Now im told Pete Williams can hear us. Pete . Apologies, brian. Just on the phone with a federal official who confirms that, in fact, the shots were fired by a member of the secret service Uniformed Division. And confirms what weve now heard from several people, which is that a white male, havent released his name yet, approached this guard post at 17th and e, with a weapon drawn, was repeatedly told to lower the weapon, was told to get down, to put the weapon down, repeatedly disobeyed those commands and was then shot by the officer. Our indication earlier was that the man was shot once in the chest and was taken to George WashingtonUniversity Hospital, which is also here in downtown washington. Lets see, thats on 17th street where this happened. Gw is about six or seven blocks away. So that wouldnt be a long trip. 17th and e there is just above the n in breaking news, theres a guard post there. As we were pointing out earlier, estreet u e street used to be open, used to be able to drive across. And you could walk along the sidewalk and look through the fence and take pictures and its been closed off for security reasons here for the last several years. But theres still a guard post there and were told thats where this happened. Outside the white house grounds. No one other than the person with the gun was shot. Officials are emphasizing that there was no danger to the public, but they dont still yet at this point know what the mans motivation was. Theyre looking for his car. They do have some indication of his identity and im sure theyll be looking into his past and talking to relatives and doing the kinds of things that they normally do after Something Like this happens. For all i know, they may be able to talk to him as well, i dont know. It bears us repeating, the instances weve known of at the white house, you can still see on the north front of the building, where rounds were fired into the building from pennsylvania avenue. One incident. Another incident comes to mind, someone flew a plane into the white house and sheered off a big chunk of tree planted by andy jackson on the south grounds. Yeah, the white house, as we said earlier, does attract people who are upset with the government or have unspecified grievances. It does that does happen. Thats one of the reasons why the security is so tight. You may recall that five or six years ago, someone fired shots from a car south of the white house, driving along. And some of those rounds actually struck the building. And then maybe 10 or 15 years ago, a man named Francisco Duran pulled out a rifle, he was upset about gun control, and fired shots at the white house. But we dont know the circumstances here. We should emphasize, as far as we know, this man who was shot today, did not himself fire any shots. The problem was, were told, that he pulled a gun, guns are illegal here in the district of columbia. Theyre not totally illegal, but there are very strict gun control laws here about who can have a gun and who cannot. And you cant carry your gun around visibly and you cant brandish it, of course, and you cant aim it at people. So the mere fact that he had a weapon would be a cause of concern around the white house. He was repeatedly told to drop it, to get down, to put the weapon on the ground, get down, he disregarded all of those instructions and at that point he was shot. We want to let our viewers know as well, the scene were watching on the left, that is not normal for an early summer day in the upper 70s, for tourists in washington. Youre not going to see long weapons like that. The officer on the near side wearing the shorts, that appears to be an over and under shotgun shes carrying and appears to be an m 4 that his colleague is carrying. Both of them, i believe, are members of the Uniformed Secret Service stationed on the 18acre complex. This is extraordinary, because weve just had an incident. But normally, except when they are pulsing the system and want to make a very visible show outside our building here in new york city, you can see members of the nypd antiterrorism squad with long weapons 24 7, standing post. Normally you dont see that aggressive a display, if you are a casual tourist walking past the building. Pete . Oh, pete has gone. As he often does, pete has initiated another phone call with the Law Enforcement officials that, in turn, give us a lot of the information we are able to give. The ambulance youre seeing now below my picture is that was part of a response from the d. C. Fire department. They sent d. C. Fire Department Engine three and two ambulances into the gate. They were allowed in. And one report that the victim was transported by helicopter, but i believe its going to turn out the victim was transported by ambulance, because it is a very short drive. Kate snow earlier was talking to sean henry, who happens to be here with us in the studio, and were happy for that. Former executive assistant director of the fbi. Sean, what else has stood out to you . Youve been watching the pictures while ive been talking. To see this show of force right now, i mean, i think its clear, it appears the initial incident is over and done. But those officers want to maintain that presence. You never know if in fact there might be some other coconspirators who may be involved. There will be an investigation to determine who this man was, what his motivation was. Pete mentioned theyll search his vehicle, theyll look to do searches, as soon as they identify his residence, regardless of where he lived, if he lived in another state multiple hours away, theyll execute a search warrant on his home, if he was in fact a threat to the white house, as it appears here. But the investigation will take a bit of time. I can say that theres a lot of collaboration between the Law Enforcement agencies in that area. Theres a lot of overlapping jurisdiction and often times the secret service will respond to something thats traditionally a park Police Jurisdiction and vice versa. Those agencies work very, very well collaboratively all in support of keeping those tourists in that area safe, as well as the white house. So the investigation will unfold here and make some determination as to what the genesis of this was. But until that time, youll likely see a continued show of force to ensure there are no additional threats to folks and facilities there in the white house complex. Pete . Thank you. And Jim Cavanaugh is with us, retired alcohol, tobacco and firearms special agent in charge, after three decades with atf. Jim, its good to have you, and i wanted to reference, some of these pictures can look so menacing to folks. I mean, i imagine a family a week away from summer vacation, their longplanned trip to washington. Theyre seeing pictures of a Uniformed Secret Service agent that we keep showing on the roof of the white house, panning his sniper rifle back and forth, right there. We should point out to people, thats to use his scope, his optics. You see a tripod on the front of the weapon. Its not because he was going to spray anyone with gunfire. He was just using his scope to get a beat on the scene. Exactly, brian. Theyre very disciplined there. No one should worry if theyre going to washington. Situation normal. The secret service, both the agents in Uniformed Division, are very thorough there. They tightened up, they got a new director. They were under criticism a year ago or more. It shows real courageous action here by the Uniformed Division officer. Ordered the person to drop the gun multiple times, according to petes report, multiple times, the person refused and he fired one round and stopped the person. Thats just Perfect Police work. And thats what hes supposed to do. Whether the gun turns out to be real, a toy, whether he was suicidal, whether it was really an attack, whether he was pulling the gun out to surrender it, who knows, but when the officer ordered him to drop it, he needed to drop it. When he refused, he was shot. I think they call that trigger discipline when theyre training Law Enforcement and military to use the appropriate amount of force for the situation, but also the least you need. Because, especially here, youre in such a public place with presumably members of the public just a few feet away. Lets fit in a break here. Our live coverage will continue right after this. 80 of women say a Healthy Lifestyle is a priority. But up to 90 fall short in getting key nutrients from food alone. Lets do more. 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He walked toward the officers, he just kept on walking in, refused to stop, and the officer after they approached about the third, they shot him. Wow, that is the first eyewitness account we have received of this. Noticeab notable there, it follows the data weve been given by the Uniformed Secret Service. We dont know the size or type of the weapon yet, except that description, it was silver. We dont know if were talking about a revolver or a 9 millimeter, but we think it was a shortbarrelled weapon. By the way, we just got a call from a viewer in indianapolis, listening on sirius satellite radio, with a reminder that were also painting a picture for people who are listening to us that way and cant see all these incoming pictures. This picture shows the apex of the elips across from the white house. Theres the Washington Monument in the background. Pete williams is standing by, but lets go to Jim Miklaszewski who has now made his way from the press room in the west wing of the white house, out to our normal location on the grounds and just to situate people here, jim, thats kind of the northwest poarea. Thats right. Its about as serene a scene as youre ever going to see. And even across pennsylvania avenue, its vacant. Usually there are thousands of tourists, taking pictures of themselves, selfies outside the front of the white house at this time of day, particularly such a Beautiful Day as today. But right now, this entire area is just totally silent. And the where the shooting occurred is in that direction, kitty corner, and from here, it would be a good block, block and a half from where were standing right outside the white house, right now, brian. And nbc crew members who were here at the time, it was so far away from the white house that they did not even hear the one shot that was fired. So at this point, the white house itself i