What he meant when he compared Donald Trumps rhetoric to kkk values. Heres what he told reporters while campaigning in florida yet. Yesterday. Hes got guys connected with the ku klux klan who are out there claiming him. And his record of im saying sometimes he doesnt disabuse that. Sometimes he wants to take advantage of that. I find that troubling. Meanwhile, donald trump believes his message to africanamerican voters is starting to resonate despite the criticism hes receiving. Heres what trump told supporters at the iowa state fair yesterday. Has seen whats been happening over the last two weeks or three weeks with me. And ill tell you, i think we have a lot of support out there. Theyre very, very tired of whats been going on and the hispanic. Community likewise. By the way, how quickly people have forgotten that Hillary Clinton called black youth superpredators. Remember that . Superpredators. And they were very, very insulted. But now people have forgot. As trump ramps up his pitch to africanamerican voters, a front page New York Times report today is revisiting a 1973 lawsuit filed by the justice department. Officials accused him and his father of turning away potential black tenants in new york city. There is no evidence trump set rental policies at his fathers properties but he did work there at the time. It ended without an admission of guilt. At the time trump called the governments allegations absolutely ridiculous. The candidates are off the campaign trail today. Later on they will be in ohio. Jacob rascon is following the campaign in des moines, iowa. What was the mood there among voters . Reporter its safe to say there was a variety in the mood there. Those supporters, of course, who were happy with whatever trump said, they were the hard score supporters just thrilled to see trump again in iowa. There were those as well, though, who are republicans life long, have always expected to vote republican. But who have been turned off by the tone that donald trump has taken. And even though trump has changed a lot of his tone over the past couple of weeks, at least in being much more scripted to use prompters at every rally, some of them still said they are not convinced and theyre really bothered about this because they want, they say, to vote republican. Take a listen to what one of them said yesterday. I just want someone whos not quite so rude, so morally thats a dilemma for me to say im going to vote for somebody who im not so crazy how that deliver that. Im not sure i want to vote this year. It would be the First Time Since i was 18 years old. We were the first 18yearolds to get to vote. I was excited about that. It was a huge privilege when that happened. And for me to think im not going to vote this year is just disappointing. Disheartening. Reporter so even many months after trump tried that first reset and ten days ago tried another reset on tone, that is the issue that a lot of voters still have trouble with. Were talking about life long Republican Voters here. They say they want to vote for trump because they dont want to vote for clinton. But many are still hesitant. And even though trump has changed a bit, they want to see more. Jacojacob, with less than a h before the first debate, what are you hearing about how trump is preparing . Reporter they couldnt be more different. We have a little while to go before the first debate. Clinton has as you might expect a formal debate team. She does very rehearsed classic debate prep. Trump though, at least according to his Campaign Manager, has a very informal on sundays they meet with advisers. But he hasnt that we know of done any run throughs, for example, had anybody stand in for clinton. There are policy books that have been prepared for him, but were told that he hasnt read any of them. And the Campaign Manager says this is what trump brings is this appeal that he is not rehearsed, not scripted. The Clinton Campaign is setting expectations high saying because of his reality tv history, he was able to do good in the primary debates. But they expect him to do well again even without a formal debate team and formal prep. Ill be watching, thats for sure. Thank you for talking with us this morning. Now to the Clinton Campaign. Kelly odonnell joins us from the washington bureau. Good morning to you. Reporter nice to see you. Lets talk about the latest in the campaigns push determining red states purple. This is one of the things that shows the strength of the Clinton Kaine campaign. They believe theyve been able to expand the map. Theres always a fight over about a dozen states that traditionally are swing states, battleground states where the race is ultimately almost always fought. Well, tim kaine, hes from virginia. Formerly the governor, currently the senator. In many ways people believe he has helped Hillary Clinton put that state firmly in her column. Not the kind of battleground you would have expected. Tim kaine who also had another job, he was formerly the dnc chairman. That means he knows a lot about the map. He was talking about what he believes their team could do to change the race this year. Couple of the states that were really close have actually moved into pretty safe safer territory. Virginias one, colorados one. What that means is the states that are really close, we can spend a lot of the time here. And florida is one of those states. Not only massive on the electoral vote side. But also because it is so close its a place where were going to spend a lot of time. And one of the ways you look for signs of that is how do they spend resources. Thats ad dollars from the campaign itself also outside allied groups. And its about the time of the candidates and the biggest surrogates they have. So we will see over the next couple of weeks. President obama back on the campaign trail in pennsylvania. Look for that next week. And then actually the 13th of september. And then on the 1st which is this coming thursday, joe biden hits the trail on the road in ohio. So you could not get two more prominent surrogates to help on the trail. And that well be seeing more of. And youll see also a lot of spending, a lot of the candidates time in those battleground states. With the clinton team theyre also putting a lot of emphasis on a place we dont normally see democrats spending their time. And that is in one particular Congressional District in nebraska. The way they count their electoral votes, thats typically a red state. There is a place where one Congressional District can provide an added electoral vote if Hillary Clinton could swing that her way. And theyre making quite a show of trying to put resources there including volunteers on the ground. Serious strategy there. Nice to talk with you this morning. For more, joining me now National Reporting for the New York Times and political reporting for politico. Good morning to both of you. Good morning. I want to start with your colleagues reporting on the housing discrimination lawsuit from 1973. This is getting a lot of buzz this morning. Weve reached out to the trump camp for reaction. Were awaiting response. Did they comment to the times on the story . And whats the context these years later . They did not comment to the New York Times for the story. The context, though, should be this is really about whether people voters are really going to look at this and look at the housing policies of Donald Trumps father and make a decision about whether or not they think that he also had some of those ideas. Now, theres no evidence that donald trump was setting any of these policies, that he was aware of these policies. However, Donald Trumps father really discriminated against africanamericans. He didnt want them living in his building. He had people put the large letter c on caply kagss for colored people. We tell the story this morning of two women who really i think were very remarkable people because they talked to you and they talked to us and they really talked about the fact that they felt discriminated against and were going to let it go, but really wanted to push the idea that they should live where they want to live. And they were educating people that wanted to be in these buildings. When we think about what this means for voters and what the context is now, donald trump in a lot of ways has had a hard time getting africanamericans and hispanics to vote for him. Thats not new news. The big issue is read about the policies of his father and wonder whether or not donald trump is running a campaign somehow echoes those same ideas. On that note, we saw the backlash following trump tweeting around dwyane wades cousin being shot. Then tweeting condolences. Does this fit into Campaign Strategy . Its all a big mix into questions how donald trump views race and how donald trump appeals to africanamerican voters. He says that hes going to win africanamerican voters as he did in that tweet. But then theres stories like this in the times about his father who he adored. And there isnt theres not a lot of polling data that suggests that hes actually making traction with hispanics or africanamericans. Quite the opposite, actually. So its him saying one thing but actual reporting and numbers on this saying quite the opposite. Well continue this theme. You were just talking about trump and his relationship with africanamerican voters. Well, once again at the iowa state fair yesterday, he reached out. He does is speech there. Do yhink i helps his outreach . What can he do . I think what donald trump can do is get into the communities hes talking about. I talked at length with advisers in the trump campaign. People telling him he needs to come into these neighborhoods. Its one thing that voters or democrats are talking about he needs to go into these neighborhoods. But the people working for trump himself say he needs to get into the africanamerican communities, hispanic communities. Right now hes doing these speeches in front of almost majority white crowds, 95 white crowds. And thats not going to help his case even though we can say hes reaching out to africanamerican voters through his words, its through his actions where hes going to get people to vote for him. Hillary clinton beat Bernie Sanders so badly when it came to minority voters and people of color because she really went into those communities. She went into africanamerican churches. She had been doing that for decades. Bernie sanders did some of that. He tried to go into some black churches. I chronicled the struggles he had going into those places, but he still did it because thats how you get people to trust you. They see you, they understand youre willing to go into those spaces. Donald trump on the other hand has made it a habit of inviting africanamericans and hispanics into trump towers saying come to my space and we can talk there. I think what he needs to do is go into other peoples spaces. The Washington Post is reporting on debate prep. Citing gatherings at his new jersey golf course. Clintons press secretary said for all his lack of substance, trumps show manship as as extv star makes him a formidable debate foe. Is this gamesmanship here . How do you read it . This happens every year every time we get near to debates. Everyones sort of handicapping their side. They want to seem like the underdog going in. Youre going to hear a lot of that. Youre going to hear hes a seasoned debate veteran. And all of his vanquished foes in the primary would admit that. But Hillary Clintons done this before too. I wouldnt take too much stock into Clinton Campaign officials saying that trump definitely has the upper hand going into the debates. Since were talking about the debates, the report today suggests different approaches from each camp in debate prep. Whats your sense on that . My sense is each candidate is going to try to be authentic to who they are. Rudy giuliani said the way donald trump would lose these debates would be trying to be somebody hes not. People expect Hillary Clinton i think and the voters expect Hillary Clinton they know shes the person who has been in the government, who understands policies, who understands foreign policy. But donald trump has really was able to beat out those 16 people because people thought he was genuine. Even if he was making gaffes or getting things wrong, that he still at the end of the day had a good heart and wanted him to be the person that would represent the republican party. So i think donald trump needs to go ahead and continue to do that. And e needs to hes not going to be someone who is secretary of state. Really he has to come off saying, look, im going to surround myself with smart people. By the way im more authentic than her. You have to trust me. He has to go to that idea. You know yourself. Thank you for talking with me this morning. Thank you. 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Marie callender spends time on the little things, so that you can spend time on what really matters. Marie callenders. Its time to savor. A couple of the states that were really close have moved into pretty safe safer territory. Virginias one, colorados one. Thats democratic Vice President ial nominee tim kaine. The polls show Hillary Clinton maintaining her lead over donald trump. A new survey found in a fourway race, secretary clinton with 45 of the vote. Trump at 38 . Gary johnson 10 . And the green partys jill stein with 4 . Lets bring in fred yang, democratic pollster with Yang Research group. Good morning to you. Good morning, sheinelle. Any surprises in the quinnipiac numbers . No. I think, you know, mrs. Clinton had a bounce in the National Polls right after the two conventions. I think were seeing some settling, but the settling is shes stronger now than she was before the two conventions. So if youre the Clinton Campaign, i think youre feeling pretty good about where things are right now. With that said, you heard tim kaine. Is it too early to express confidence in his home state . For the Clinton Campaign and for democrats, i would sort of say the word should be cautious optimism. I think what were seeing right now is i think the polls will close part of the clintons surge is because trump is still having problems getting republicans. But i think ultimately what this election will be about is what most elections are about which is turnout. So i think the overall dynamic is helping mrs. Clinton. And then as we get closer to the fall, i think both campaigns will focus on turnout. Lets talk about some of the other candidates for a moment. Quinnipiac also asked voters if gary johnson should be included in the debates. 62 of likely voters said yes. 29 said no. Is it likely that johnson will reach the threshold to be included . And what about jill stein . Well, i think the Debate Commission has set 15 as the threshold in National Polls to be included in a national debate. You know, hes almost there, but part of the issue for johnson and for stein is just how much attention they get. Its sort of, you know, which came first the chicken or the egg . Its hard to get your vote share if you dont get your attention. But if you dont get the vote share, youre not getting attention. Do you consider it is two way or a three way or four way . I think right now the two way is the most important on measurement. Lets talk more about the debate and the impact. How do they generally influence polls . What kind of bump or dip would you say is the norm . Well, i think it depends on the performance of the candidates. Four years ago the first debate in denver in which most pundits agree, that helped mitt romney. But then president obama did well in the second and third debates. I think sheinelle, everything about 2016 is breaking the rules. I think the first debate between clinton and trump will be probably the most decisive moment of the campaign because it will for the first time be donald trump on a national stage. I know the convention was a big stage, but you will have a big National Audience for this first debate. I think in that way it could be a very big moment in the campaign. If you take a step back, look beneath the numbers, look at the battleground states. Look at the fact that mrs. Clinton is winning with White College voters. With africanamericans, hispanics, and asians. If you look at the boring numbers, its hard for donald trump to overcome that no matter how well or how much attention he gets from that first debate. Im glad you mentioned that. Because we have time for one more. I wanted to ask you about Hillary Clinton. She has a wide lead as you mentioned over donald trump with hispanics. Look at this. In a poll this week, Hillary Clinton has a 51point edge with 73 o