Woman. He said, this has been a good experience and this whole campaign, as tough as its been. She said, donald, whatever happens, we need to Work Together afterwards. That is Cardinal Timothy dolan. He was with clinton and trump at the Al Smith Dinner in new york last night. An event where they both tried to be funny with some very mixed results. Well look at that. Plus, Chris Christie implicated. For two and a half years, the author of the time for traffic email in the bridgegate scandal has been silent. Today, she took the stand with explosive allegations about what christie knew and when he knew it. Full report on what Bridget Kelly is saying in federal court and what it could mean is ahead. We begin with the top story. Were standing by, waiting to hear from Hillary Clinton in ohio. As we mentioned, donald trump is spi speaking right now in johnstown, pennsylvania. Trump facing a decidedly uphill fight in pennsylvania. Some say it is an Impossible Mission for him in pennsylvania. His debate performance on wednesday in that final showdown, well, that is unlikely to move the needle when it comes to the polls. We have new numbers to show you here. This is our nbc news surveymonkey online poll. We asked, who won the third debate . 46 of those who watched it say they believe Hillary Clinton won it. 37 said trump won it. That was an improvement for trump from the other debates. Still, Hillary Clinton, a plurality winner according to the poll. Trump tweeting this afternoon, quote, the results are in on the final debate, and it is almost unanimous, i won. Thank you. These are very exciting times. Hillary clinton not missing an opportunity to hit back. She tweeted this in response to what trump put up. She said, where was this kind of comedy last night . Of course, clinton referring to that Al Smith Dinner in new york. Both candidates attended, spoke at it last night. This is a traditional election season event. It is supposed to be good natured. It is supposed to be fun. Both candidates are supposed to make fun of themselves a little bit and gently make fun of each other. All of it for a good cause, to raise money for catholic charities. That is not quite how it played out last night. Donald trump was first up. His jokes about his opponent were a little too harsh for the crowd. Now, some of you havent noticed, hillary isnt laughing as much as the rest of us. Thats because she knows the jokes. And all of the jokes were given to her in advance of the dinner by donna brazile. For more, i want to bring in jacob rascon, on the ground in trumps rally in pennsylvania. He is in johnstown, what is he talking about there . Doing what hes been doing the last few days. He is hitting Hillary Clinton, using the lines hes been talking about in the debates. In fact, right now, he is talking about the debates. Interestingly, talking about the polls. This is such a big issue. He started out, his rally here, talking about how new polls are coming out that are showing him ahead. The crowd goes wild. They eat this all up. He knows and his team must know how much he is down. He was down by double digits for a lot of the summer here in pennsylvania. Thenstatistically tied with Hillary Clinton closer after the first debate. Hes back where he started. Almost double digits in some of the polls. He tells his supporters theyre up and they believe him. They have such a hard time with this because they look at a rally like this, with thousands of people packed. Theres so much energy here. Theyre interrupting him every minute. Then, to understand that in most of the polls, he is way down, they have a really tough time with that. Jacob rascon in pennsylvania. Thank you for that. Turning to the clinton side of things. Kristen welker is on a bus, on her way to cleveland. Hillary clinton is going to be holding an event there. You can see shes on a bus thats moving. We got a lively shot there with kristen welker. Kristen, the mood around the Clinton Campaign, whats the message theyre trying to push . Secretary clinton is going to be meeting with leaders from the black lives matter movement. Trying to energize that key constituency. The key part of her base. Today, the message in cleveland, and youre right, steve, we are on our way. A bumpy ride here. Trying to keep it interesting for you guys. Her message is going to be get out and vote. Early voting started here last wednesday. Based on our own analysis, the turnout has actually been quite strong. More heavy for the democrats so far. Thats something that secretary clinton will undoubtedly use to rally the crowds. I spoke to one of her Campaign Officials who said also expect her to talk a little bit about the debate. We might see a few barbs about that. Then shes going to return to her closing message. Weve sort of seen her start to lay that out. She did get to that a little in the third and final debate. That message is that she will be a unifying leader. So critical, of course, because the country is so divided right now. Of course, you have donald trump saying that the entire system is rigged. Thats a critical part. The campaign believes, trying to lay the groundwork, if she does win, for making sure Trump Supporters, undecided voters ultimately get on board with her. Or at least believe that the Election Results with valid. So that is the strategy. Secretary clinton a little bit from an hour from now will be taking the stage in cleveland. Again, the focus on early voting. That was a key part of the obama strategy back in 2012. It clearly worked for him and the Clinton Campaign trying to replicate that, steve. Kristen welker on that bus in ohio. Thanks for that. Kristen talks about Hillary Clinton being in ohio today. We know why she is there. Polls show pretty much a dead even race in the state. Clinton has a chance there. Trump does, as well. Trump meanwhile in pennsylvania today in the polls look a little different there. Let me show you what i mean. Heres the most recent poll from pennsylvania. Six point lead for Hillary Clinton. Actually, when you look at some of the other numbers weve seen out of pennsylvania, this probably counts as good news for donald trump. There have been polls that put him back further than six points there. This is a state no republican has won since 1988. Its one the Trump Campaign was talking up at the start of this campaign as a blue state they could flip. Really, he has not led in the polls this entire race in pennsylvania. Very hard to see at this point how he could turn around and win it. We can show you why. Pennsylvania is really sort of the tale of two different states. Two different parts of the state. Right now, we say donald trump is in johnstown, pennsylvania, southwest pennsylvania. This area weve got shaded in right here. We see in the most recent poll, donald trump is running up the score in southwest pennsylvania. This is why his campaign thought at the beginning of this race they would have a shot to flip pennsylvania. They said, blue collar, white voters, we talk about the class divide among white voters that has been driving this race. Donald trump doing well with white voters without college degrees. Blue collar white voters. This is an area ripe with blue collar white voters. This number would suggest he is doing better than mitt romney did four years ago in this part of the state. This is why the trump people were thinking, hey, maybe we could flip pennsylvania. Maybe we could finally do it. But the problem theyre discovering is the message that works in this part of the state, the message that works with blue collar voters, the style that seems to work is having a very different effect when it comes to suburban white voters. Talking more economically upscale voters here. These are the suburban counties outside of philadelphia. Look at this, Hillary Clinton leading by 26 points here. To put this in some perspective, this same area, the suburban counties of pennsylvania, four years ago, mitt romney only lost in them by nine points to president obama. Fast forward to four years later. The gap is 26 in the most recent poll. It went from 9 to 26. Donald trump and this ising all across the country donald trump is losing historic ground for a republican candidate when it comes to suburban white voters. He is doing better than republicans usually do with blue collar whites. Any gain hes making up there in pennsylvania and elsewhere is more than offset with the losses among suburban white voters. Thats why pennsylvania is such an uphill climb for donald trump. He is there today. Hes there right now. Hes trying to make it work. Somewhere else donald trump was today, North Carolina. Its one that mitts ago. Heres a bit of what trump said earlier today. We have a president , all he wants to do is campaign. His wife, all she wants to do is campaign. I see how much his wife likes hillary. Wasnt she the one that originally started the statement, if you cant take care of your home, right, you cant take care of the white house or the country . Where is that . I dont hear that. I dont hear that. Shes the one that started that. I said, we cant say that. Its too vicious. Can you believe it . I said that. We cant say it. They said, well, Michelle Obama said it. Donald trump down there in North Carolina today. For more, lets bring in a republican strategist and former press secretary for ben carson. And msnbc political analyst and National Affairs correspondent. Donald trump bringing Michelle Obama up. Michelle obama has been taking a public role in the Clinton Campaign. Very. Hes trying to rely on the old feelings from 2008, trying to bring those up. Michelle obama, what that really speaks to, as become a weapon for the Clinton Campaign. Shes a weapon and a most popular political figure. All the surrogates, some also very popular, elizabeth warren, Michelle Obama is the top. If he wants to worsen his problems with women generally, and worsen them with black women, which they cant get worse, shell probably get 96 of the black female vote, this is a good strategy. If he is trying to appeal to women and narrow the gender gap, this is terrible. Michelle obama doesnt just speak to black women. Obviously, she was in New Hampshire for the campaign. She was in arizona. Shes speaking for all women. Shes doing an amazing job. She expressed the revulsion a lot of us heard listening to the access hollywood tape, as well as hearing the complaints which echoed the tape from other women in the week. When she spoke about how she was sickened to her core, shaken to her core, with her voice trembling. She really catalyzed something for a lot of american women. Its very dangerous to take her on. And you were with ben carson in the primary campaign. Ben carson, still a public supporter of donald trump. Where have you landed on this . You are a republican, carson supporter. Are you a trump supporter . I am supporting the republican nominee who happens to be donald trump. He was not my first choice obviously but he is my nominee so i am supporting him. I agree 100 . Going after Michelle Obama is a failed strategy. He is the first lady and hugely popular. Michelle obama and i have vastly different world views, but even i recognize that she is not someone that you want to attack on the campaign trail. Not a winning strategy. We mentioned that Al Smith Dinner in new york last night. The idea both candidates supposed to show more of their humorous side. We can say it didnt necessarily go that well for donald trump. He was booed by the crowd. There was an interesting comment made by cardinal dolan. He organizes this. He was backstage with both kand it candidates beforehand. He said this was the exchange they had before the event. After a prayer, mr. Trump turned to secretary clinton and said, you know, you are one tough and talented woman. He said, this has been a great a good experience. The whole campaign, as tough as its been. She said to him, donald, whatever happens, we need to Work Together afterwards. That jumps out at me. When donald trump was asked, Say Something nice about Hillary Clinton, thats what he said publicly. I think this is a window into how donald trump views this competition hes in. He sort of you throw everything at your opponent, i mean everything at your opponent. Literally. If they prove they can take a punch and punch back, he will respect you. I guess so. I thought the end of the second debate was one of his finest moments. If he said this to her last night, that is the donald trump we should be seeing more of. The gibes he took of her, now he thinks better of rosie odonnell, not designed to appeal to women. People were cringing and booing when he called her corrupt. He doesnt i dont know what it is. Im not a psychologist. He doesnt seem to have control enough control of himself to kind of pivot, as we used to say we dont say pivot anymore, do we pivot at least toward respecting her, which i think might sure him up a bit with the republican women who dont necessarily want to vote for a democrat but cant bring themselves to vote for donald trump. Youve run a campaign against him, against donald trump. What is your read on him . Im asking a psychological question here. What i think im hearing here is a philosophy from donald trump of he views competition as something where if you have a potential weapon, you use it. There are no boundaries. This would be why hed bring up former accusers of bill clinton, bring them to the debate hall, say the things about Hillary Clinton going to jail and, yet, at the end of the day, if you can fight back, maybe beat him, as Hillary Clinton is right now, hell respect your toughness. Do you think that is a fair read . I think that is a pretty fair read. I definitely believe he respects Hillary Clintons toughness. Even people like me who never in a million years would vote for clHillary Clinton, i recognize r as a strong leader. She is a tough woman who has been in the game 30 years. I think for me the issue with donald trump is, you know i think after Kellyanne Conway came on, we saw the resurgence and he was on message. The fact hes said everything hes said thats been off color, but hes still in the game 18 days out, for me, this indicates that Hillary Clinton is clearly a failed i mean, she is a very poor candidate, for him to be able to continue to be in the game at this stage. So for me, what i want to see donald trump do is, yes, Hillary Clinton is a formidable opponent, but she is an opponent with serious flaws. I would love for him to stay on message with issues and do a little less of the attacks. Certainly stop attacking Michelle Obama. We will lose miserably with that. I think if he continues to point to Hillary Clintons 30 years of failed policies, then we might have a chance. For us to say, i know were talking a little about polls. No one does polls better than you, steve, but the issue is this. We have seen over the cycle of this Campaign Polls go up and down. So donald trump actually even though there are people who are riding him out, he still has a chance to win if he stays on message. All right. Thank you both for the time. Meanwhile, coming up, an attack on the internet. If you live on the east coast, anywhere east of the mississippi, you might have felt this one today. All sorts of major websites essentially shut down. 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