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Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live 20161127

Im alex witt here at msnbc World Headquarters in new york. Here is whats happening. Split reactions. Its day two of National Mourning in cuba after the death of fidel castro. In the u. S. , a different take on what this means. Some criticisms aimed at the statement of condolences from president obama. For a man who torture and murdered and oppressed for so many, its thankful he is no longer with us. This ought to be a moment where cubans are dancing in the street because they are being liberated. Instead, if you dance in the street, you are going to be thrown in jail. There are thousands upon thousands of people who suffered brutally under the castro regime. He executed people. He jailed people for 20 to 30 years. The florida straits, there are thousands of people who lost their lives fleeing. Not to acknowledge any of that in the statement i felt was pathetic. We have reports from miami, florida, to the cuban island. We will begin in miamis Little Havana. The crowds are gathering for the second day. Set the scene for us. Reporter people here in miami are still in a celebratory mood. Its sunday, cubanamericans went to church, then to brunch and now they have started to gather here in the streets. We were just at a bay of bigs veterans presser. They expressed the change they want to see brought about in the wake of fidels passing. Call on all our community to maintain this pressure because these are critical times for democracy in cuba. Having said this, i want to take the opportunity to thank president elect trump for the truthful and morally correct words of encouragement for the cuban people that he issued upon the death of fidel castro. Reporter here in the streets, alex, the sense is of people wanting to be together. I want to whack you through the crowd. There are people wanting to experience this moment with friends, with their family. Meet a family, the ramirez family. Jose, you brought your two little girls here. I know your dad fled on a raft to come to the United States. Would you want to go back to cuba with your girls . Absolutely. One day after the regime is done with and the castro brothers are through, i would go back. Reporter thank you. Do you know what flag you are holding . Cuba. Reporter these little girls, they very much know or they have some sense of what they are out here witnessing or experiencing. Their parents have explained that to them. This coming wednesday, the main Opposition Movement in miami will be holding a rally. Again, many cuban exiles wanting to force a change on the island with Fidel Castros passing. Its very loud there. I will let you go at this point. Clearly, a jubilant crowd. Lets go from miami to cuba. Morgan radford is in old havana. She spoke with students there. Morgan, whats the mood like there . Reporter we are standing here in old havana. Let me show you around. This area usually has lots of activity, especially on a weekend like this. What you are seeing now is day two of nine days of official mourning. Cafes are just beginning to reopen this sunday after being closed yesterday. People breaking down in the streets crying because they feel like the father of their coun y country, the father of the revolution here in cuba died. We saw the local newspaper printed all in black ink. Usually theres red, blue. But not this time. People here are grappling with a legacy they know and understand is a complicated one, especially the young people. People have accused castros policy of creating sort of a brain drain of young cuban talent. I went back to the university of havana where i used to study. I spoke to some of the young kids to find out how they feel about the legacy of fidel castro and if they feel like its an important one to continue. Take a listen. Do you think that fill did del complicated and misunderstood . Yes. I think he was. I think he do i think he did what the best intention. Fidel wasnt wrong. I mean reporter when you say he wasnt wrong, what do you mean . Look at all the people here. They are here because of he. I would like to say the world, this is not the end. We are the future. This legacy that he left us is the most important and we have to continue that. Reporter alex, every single young person who i spoke to said they felt like socialism as an idea was very important. While they admitted they wanted to see a few things change, like, for example, they wanted more access to the internet. They want to be able to order things like clothes online, something they cant do right now. Young people are they have to call friends in miami and have them send things here to them in cuba. Its difficult. Things like that they want to see. They want to see their daily lives change. All right. Clearly, a little interference with our satellite signal. We thank morgan for that report. Lets look at whats ahead with u. S. Relations with cuba under soon to be president donald trump. He threatened to reverse the executive actions normalizing relations with cuba. Kellyanne conway clarified how trump feels today on cnn saying this. He just objects to the way that we reengaged diplomatic relations with cuba in the last several years because we got nothing in return. Joining me now is former florida congressman lincoln diaz balard. Glad to have you. I will ask you, is that why you oppose president obamas executive actions on cuba . They were totally one sided. Absolutely, unilateral. Yes, i mean, thats in essence why people like myself oppose what obama did if you are going to lift sanctions on a bad actor, get something in return. Are you going to hold donald trump to his vow of repealing president obamas new policies . Were very pleased, were very pleased, alex, that the president elect during campaign made clear that any concession to the dictatorship has to receive something in return. He specifically talked about Political Freedom for the cuban people. I think it was most unfortunate that in the report that i was listening to before, the prior report, some students were asked what would they like and the reporter said, what they would like is to be able to buy clothes on the internet. No, no, the cuban people want freedom. Im very pleased that the president elect, the vicepresident elect and this community is very pleased that they have been very clear in that any concessions to the dictatorship have to get there have to be something in return. Specifically, he talked about Political Freedom for the cuban people. What about the freedom that would be then taken away presumably, sir, people to travel between the two nations . Family members to go back to cuba to see family members and vice versa. Well, lets keep in mind that there are a series of executive actions that president obama took. Especially the ones starting in december of 2014, where he even first of all, he clearly violated u. S. Law. U. S. Law permits, for example, travel to cuba. But there are 12 laws that were codified for that legal travel. What president obama did is said, well, u. S. Banks can finance projects in cuba. Clearly, violating the law. What we would hope that we are confident the new president and vicepresident and his team are going to insist is that u. S. Law be followed. And any executive actions that violated u. S. Law, obviously, should be repealed. That should be the priority. Theres overwhelming support in this community for the law being followed and for the violations of law that were inherent in the obama executive actions, that they be those violations be stopped, they be repealed. You and so many others are looking upon Fidel Castros death as being an opportunity. Considering he handed things over to his brother raul about a decade ago when he got sick, where do things stand now . What should be done with raul . Well, lets keep in mind that the cuban dictatorship was Fidel Castros creation. Yes, even though he turned over the titles of power to his brother a few years ago because fidel castro obviously became very ill, but he was the power behind the thrown. The ideas, if you will, the brain for evil was clearly fidel castro. Raul was the executor. He still is. He executes literally he executes people. He has done that from the beginning. Obviously, executes orders. He has never had an idea. The brain for evil, lets not minimize the importance of the fact that the brain for evil has died. Now its very clear what we need to do. Obviously, stop unnecessary cash going to the regime so that they can export terrorism and increase terrorism against the cuban people as well. And help the internal opposition. I wish that you would be interviewing a dear friend who now a young man who is an artist and was arrested yesterday because they have they are making the they are making ie ining a strong thing things under control at this moment of uncertainty. The other young people who are the leaders of tomorrow, those are the people who we have to be focusing attention on now. In every town and village in cuba, there are activists, there are independent actors in all realms and leaders of tomorrow. Those are the people, just like Ronald Reagan helped them in eastern europe, that we need to be helping in cuba. Keep in mind that that dictatorship raul castro is in his 80s. Its not an inheritable family farm. What is required for cuba is freedom. Lets keep in mind that the actors for freedom are the heros in every town and village. The prodemocracy activists, they deserve our attention and our solidarity. We will take a look at that and see what we can do with that. Thank you very much. Interview him. Thank you. Appreciate that. We will get to more politics. New reaction from Bernie Sanders on who should be the democrats next leader. They are seeking to oust nancy pelosi on the heels of the partys election loss. Do you think its time to replace nancy pelosi . I will leave that to the i was in the house for 16 years. Im not in the house right now. I will leave that to the members of the house. Nancy a friend of mine. I think she has done a very good job. I think that is an issue of the people of the house will have to decide. One of the president elects top advise sers is ramping up h criticism of jill steins election recount effort. This recount by jill stein and now the hillary people is just so confounding and disappointing. Their president is going to be in office for eight more weeks. They have to decide whether theyre going to interfere with him finishing his business, interfere with a peaceful transition, transfer of power to president elect trump and vicepresident elect pennsylvania or if theyre pencf theyre going to be sore losers. The president elect is going to meet with eight picks tomorrow, including david clark, who is being considered to lead the department of Homeland Security. The meetings come at a time of reported growing tensions within the Transition Team over who should be our countrys next secretary of state. Lets bring in kristin welker, covering the president elect in florida. So what is the deal with the reports of in fighting over romney and giuliani for secretary of state . Reporter theres a real Division Within trump world. Should president elect trump pick Rudy Giuliani, someone who is a longtime supporter, a hardliner, or mitt romney, someone who is a former antagonist. He was one of the first Top Republicans to come out and criticize donald trump as a candidate. But he is a more moderate republican. You have a lot of folks who think he would be the better pick. Kellyanne conway, one of Donald Trumps top advisers, raised a lot of eyebrows on thanksgiving. She started tweeting with the importance of loyalty in a secretary of state. Se seemed as if she was picking sides, pushing for Rudy Giuliani. Chuck asked her about that. Why are you campaigning against mitt romney as secretary of state . Im not campaigning against anyone. Im just a concerned citizen. Im not campaigning against mitt romney. Thats a decision that only one man can make, president elect trump. I will respect it and i will support it 1,000 . But im reflecting what the grassroots are saying. They feel a bit betrayed to think you can get a romney back in there after everything he did. We dont know if he voted for donald trump. He and his consultants were nothing but awful to donald trump for a year. Reporter of course, president elect trump will leave this afternoon, heads back to new york. We anticipate we will learn more cabinet picks later this week. Kellyanne conway also letting chuck know that the president elect had a 45 minute phone call with president obama yesterday. She didnt explain what they talked about. I got a little bit more detail from a transition official who described the call this way. They have established a great rapport and they enjoy their wide ranging conversations. This official also saying that president elect trump and president obama believe its important to Work Together for a peaceful transition. That likely a little dig at that recount effort thats currently under way. Its being spearheaded by Green Party Candidate jill stein. We learned that the Clinton Campaign joining in that effort. Because they say if theres going to be a recount, they want to make sure they are represented legally. Thank you so much. As havana prepares for a public burial, republicans are urging president owe b obama no attend. For a man who tortured and murder and oppressed, it is thankful that he is no longer with us. Our mission is to produce programs and online content for African Women as they try to build their businesses and careers. My name is yasmin beloosagie and im a cofounder at she leads africa. I definitely could not do my job without technology. 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That was Kellyanne Conway this morning on whether the president elect will roll back some of president obamas cuba orders as he vowed to do during the campaign. For more analysis, lets bring in erin and niles. Good to see you both. Thanks for joining me. Ladies first here. What do you think is going to factor into trumps decision . I think, talking to members of congress. Were starting to see reporting there are republican lawmakers who are not saying any more that donald trump should completely reverse president obamas executive orders with respect to cuba, but should recalibrate them somewhat. We have seen so far in the statements that donald trump has made in the last couple of days that theres no indication of whether or not he is actually going to roll back those decisions. He hasnt tipped his hand one way or another. He has been very clear he will take a wait and see approach. I want to play for you what senator ted cruz said this morning about president obamas reaction to castros death. Here it is. I very much hope that we dont see any u. S. Government officials going to Fidel Castros funeral. I hope we dont see obama and biden and Hillary Clinton and democrats lining up top lionize a murderous tyrant and thug. If you wouldnt go to stalins funeral because they were murdering communist dictators, then you shouldnt be doing what obama and Justin Trudeau are doing, which is celebrating fidel castro, a murderous, communist dictator. He said it right there what he thought. What do you think the u. S. Representation will look like at castros funeral . What do you think the protocol is for when a leader like castro dies . Its very difficult given the relationship between the United States and cuba while president obama is trying to normalize that relationship. I would still be surprised if he were to go to his funeral. That said, it would not surprise me if there were lower level United States government representation of some kind. It could be presented as admiration or rather respect for the office and for the people of cuba rather than pro castro sentiment. I think on ted cruzs point, people of his ideological bent, i mean, its difficult sometimes to separate the human rights component from this from the political or partisan component. Lets turn to trump Transition Team. I played a sound bite of Kellyanne Conway weighing in on the fight of romney and giuliani. What is trumps decision on that going to boil down to in the end . Whether or not donald trump wants mitt romney in that position. Its clear he is very interested in having mitt romney as secretary of state or he wouldnt have made the comments that he has made in some of the off the record meetings he has had that romney really wants that position and obviously romney is interested in that position, based on what he said after that meeting. Its clear that Rudy Giuliani also really wants that position. He has taken on this public campaign. At this point, it could be that both of those men are out and that donald trump is going to have to go in another direction. There was someone res recolle resurrecting the name of john bolton. With regard to the washington post, it says that trump is turning away intel briefings. He has received two of them since winning the election. How do you read into this . Is there precedent for the incoming president to limit the number of intel briefings he recei receives . Its a surprising decision. Its surprising because it seems to reinforce some of the criticisms that we hear voiced about the president elect. You

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