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Heres whats happening. We begin with politics and new reaction to the New York Times and post reports on russia intervening in the president ial election. Rnc Communications Director sean spicer this morning adamantly denying the rnc had been hacked. We were going to offer the New York Times inside access to know what happened. We were willing to offer them proof. They chose not engage in that conversation. Not us. The intelligence agencies were working with tell us with certainty we havent been hacked. We said it before and tried to work with these Media Outlets to explain that and show them. Outgoing Senate Minority leader harry reid where he th k thinks the fight will go next. Heres what he told my colleague this morning. I believe Lindsey Graham is a voice of concern. A good lawyer and i think he should get involved and doing that i think he will bring in republican moderates. There arent many. This is really important. Meanwhile, Rudy Guiliani is fueling further speculation over who the president elect will choose for secretary of state. Heres what he said this morning about taking his name out of the race. He also had a message for one of the top contenders. I knew he had good choices. If i thought he didnt have a great choice and needed only me which was probably always true they only needed you, if i thought that id do it in a minute. If mitt romney, i voted for him and supported him and thought he would be a better president than barack obama. I do think as huckabee does he should apologize and the comm t comments he made when i was campaigning for my friend, donald trump. And we have news on secretary of state. Lets go to Andrea Mitchell on breaking details. This is about the secretary of state pick. What are we learning . What ive learned from two sources close to the transition, it will be rex tillerman barring an unforeseen problem. He is to be the new nominee for secretary of state and very likely would be paired with an experienced and sometimes controversial diplomat, john bolton, the former u. N. Ambassador who would be the deputy secretary of state in this unusual pairing of corporate ceo from exxonmobil who has no experience in dropsy, spent his entire career in the increasing spector but in fact has wide Global Experience and could be controversial because of his close relationship with Vladimir Putin. They had a long standing relationship and one of their biggest deals was a victim of the ukraine sanctions imposed by the Obama Administration, canceling 5 500 billion deal between exxonmobil and russia in the arctics. Ents ing you just mentioned that. You know how we prep on the show, the next couple of hours that was a topic we were going to talk about, his connections with russia and going to ask journalists we were talking to if maybe that would dissuade trump from making that decision and clearly it didnt. Reporter this decision, as i understand it, was made in the last couple of days, as the appropriate people in the corporate world were notified of mr. Tiller sons likely appoint and all before the breaking news about the russia investigation on the intelligence side. You saw the strong pubback unusual and unprecedented from the Transition Team from the president elect against the cias analysis as it was being reported today, last night and this morning. I do not think that would derail what i have been told is a pe pending nomination of the nominee to be secretary of state. One of the big signals leading to this, of course, is the fact that Rudy Guiliani was no longer in contention and it is narrowed down. Theres always the fallback the possibility that senator corker might be the fallback position. I was told in fact it is going to be rex tiller son. We saw the way president elect trump brought up tillersons name himself during his interview a couple days ago with matt lauer on the today show. He brought up the name. There have been a lot of signals the last couple of days and why weve been working our sources. With that said, how would you describe the buzz behind the sce scenes . Obviously there will be critis. S is this someone the other side feels like they can work with. I was reading an article this morning and people complaining this whole decision of secretary of state seemed like a reality show and we had mitt romney in front of the cameras and so much hoop law about it and now we have a decision. Can you put it in perspective for us . Reporter there was a lot of pushback as you saw first of all on meet the press, saying there was a lot of anger among the base, among Trump Supporters against mitt romneys selection because of the really Strong Language that he has used in his criticisms of donald trump during the campaign. That said, donald trump praised mitt romney, said their dinner went well, said they had a real connection. Mitt romney was also going to be a controversial choice for the base. Rex tillerson is more of a corporate ceo type who has great Global Experience. You can see where he would be a fit with donald trump, where they would connect. Certainly, its going to be controversial among some crit critics, certainly critics of the increasing policy because he had a lot of other things going on, recently reporting of the Washington Post there was a very specific and unusual questionnaire by the trump energy Transition Team to top officials in the department of energy to try to nail down who among senior officials, among the Civil Servants in the Energy Department had been involved in any of the negotiations for the paris Climate Change accord or other Big Decisions in energy, really delving into what scientists were deciding and discussing in their professional roles under the Obama Administration. That is unprecedented in my experience. There will be a lot of controversy over Energy Policy alone. To choose someone from the Worlds Biggest Oil company to be secretary of state nominee will raise issues. There are so many other questions before this Senate Confirming these choices, the Foreign Relations committee will be headed by bob corker and if this goes through and announced this week is passed over for this job and hes in charge of the hearings of the republicanled senate. With that said, there is a caveat here, how final is this . Reporter nothing is final until a nominee is announced. Im saying sources are telling me close to the transition this is going to happen. Ive also been led to believe that the appropriate steps are being taken by exxonmobil, which is a major step for the Corporate Board to take, theyre expecting their ceo to be nominated. I will throw you a ball here and i hope it makes sense. You have so much experience here, i think the challenge is when you have breaking news like this, there are a lot of people who watch our programming and theyre in the weeds, in the ins and outs and tell you about Ceo Rex Tillerson and tell you why he would be a great secretary of state or wouldnt be. A lot of people want to hear breaking news and come to us and turn on nbc and thmsnbc and the filter. It depends on the filter what type of reaction you get, as best you can for people tuning into this news and people just finding out about rex tiller son, whats your take what he would bring to this role . Reporter its really hard to say. We dont know as much about him as we would know as someone who has come up through the role of diplomacy or Public Policy mitt romney, lets say. This is someone who is coming from the outside, bringing a great deal of Global Experience as perhaps the worlds leading executive in the increasing field but someone who would be controversial with a lot of critics of Donald Trumps Energy Policy. As any would tell you, elections have consequences. We have seen this in the nominee for epa and the nominee for what youre going to see in a number of these other in other ar areas. Senator sessions, for instance, is very controversial among many people but he is more likely to be approved because he comes from the senate. If they wanted an easy confirmation, bob corker would have glided through most likely. These things are unpredictable. Way back i covered a senators nomination in 1989 by president bush 41 to be the defense secretary. At one of his early nominations over chairman of the armed sieveses committee and it went completely off the rails and we ended up with dick cheney as defense secretary. These things are really hard to predict. What is the issue that will come up and came up for the number of attorney general nominees for bill clinton back in 1993 . You ended up with a complete man with two nominees having to prove themselves and pull back and finally the third one nominated as attorney general. I would caution you dont know which of these nominations is going to be tricky and the democrats have to make their choices. How many will they try to challenge and confront . They will be aggressive in their questioning but how many will they try to derail . The epa may be one and labor may be another. Those are so controversial. The secretary of state may be one where they decide to take a pass. Nbc chief Foreign Affairs correspondent, Andrea Mitchell, thank you for joining us for this breaking news for the president elects choice of secretary of state. Thank you. Reporter you bet. Lets bring in our contributor, michael, also former ambassador to russia. Are you comfortable with this pick . No, not really, to be honest. I want to look more closely at it. Its breaking news. I thought we were going to talk about russian hacking and now to Rex Tillerson. Welcome to the news. Yes. Let me say a few things. The main reason i am uncomfortable is that the secretary of state is a multidimensional policy job. Its not just an energy job. You have to deal with the military issues, you have to deal with diplomacy about trade issues, you have to deal on a myriad of issues, human rights, for instance, whereas the increasing sector, ive dealt with the Energy Sector in the government very close toly, theyre one dimensional. Thats the first thing that troubles me. The second thing more deeper about, exxonmobil, of course, has a major pending deal with the russian oil company. Vp, several times, has called it the most important issue in u. S. Russian relation is in deca decades. When i was in the government, i want to be clear, i supported that deal. I thought that was an important joint venture between these two companies, but it was suspended rightly because of russias intervention in ukraine. What i worry about here we will lift sanctions and forget about crimea and forget about these military intervention in ukraine for the sake of an oil deal. Thats not good Foreign Policy in my view. You make good points but is it enough to fight, if you will, you were hearing Andrea Mitchell talk about they have secretary of labor or epa, so many choices to fight or accept. Is this one worth it to you to push a little bit and say no . I would want the process of confirmation 0 be thorough and comprehensive. It was for me. I had several republican sena r senators put holds on me about policy issues. I would hope there is a thorough scrub to make sure theres not a conflict of interest and that this person is the best qualified person for the job. Whether they seek to block it or not, thats a political matter above my pay grade. Can you talk about the importance of his role as secretary of state and on the other side as chairman and ceo of a Large Company he can use the skillset to be effective in this role. Yes. I think thats fair and should be noted. Obviously, if youre the ceo of exxonmobil youre dealing with headin ings of states and Prime Minister s all over the world. They are a global company. With respect to russia, rex t l tillerson is one of the few nongovernment americans that sees putin regularly, so hes not going to be starting from scratch in that relationship with president putin. Literally, theres only two or three people i can name, tiller son, maybe Henry Kissinger that have that advantage. I suspect if he has those relationships in russia he has them all over the world as well. Does the u. S. Need this ventures into what we were going to talk about anyway, does the u. S. Need better relations with russia . Id frame it differently. To say we need better relations with russia makes better relations with russia the objective of Foreign Policy, right . The means to that are things like lifting sanctions recogn e recognizing crimea. I want to flip it around exactly. I want to say what are American National security interests and economic interests with respect to russia. And then the means for achieving them are relationships with putin. Having a Good Relationship with russia is meaningless unless it advances our national interests. Put this in perspective for me. I dont know if you heard me asking Andrea Mitchell earlier this morning, the challenge in these days and times, things are so polarized, people turn on the news, they dont know whether theyre getting a filter, accurate information, balanced, fair, to the best of your ability, how should we react to this choice . Also talk about the fact there has been so much buzz, you know, about president elect trump and his connections with putin and some of his choices and whether they have connections, put this in perspective here whether people should be concerned. With respect to your first question we all need to dig into his history, into his background and look very closely whether hes qualified or not. This is one of the most important jobs in the u. S. Government. We all need to do that. Right now. In an objective way and look at it as you and i were doing a few minutes ago. Theres plus side and up side to appointing an official like this. With respect to russia, you know, im sure the kremlin is very happy about this choice, this is somebody they know well. He wants to do business with russia. They were against the sanctions. They are doing business by the way with an oil company that seized a lot of its assets in a way that many people think were illegal. So, you know, for them, a guy like tillerson is going to put that behind them. Theyre not going to question that previous history. Thats the kind of history we all need to look at very closely. A lot to dig in. Before you leave me, i want to ask you about the cia, about the fallout, new revelations that russia influenced the election to favor donald trump. The Washington Post reporting Russian Hackers intervened to help donald trump win. Are you surprised there isnt more outrage over this. Senator john cornyn tweeted this morning while serious, this isnt news, he says, this is something thats been going on covertly for a long time. Whats your take . Ive been following this a long time during the campaign, i talked about it and wrote about it on other shows on msnbc. Im not surprised. I think it was very obvious the russians preferred donald trump to secretary clinton. By the way the conversation were having about Rex Tillerson reaffirms that was a good bet in terms of their strategy. They stole data and transferred that data to wikileaks. Thats the news for me over the last 24 hours our Intelligence Community is now saying they have evidence of that transfer. We didnt know that. We were guessing before about that. What it says to me, not whether we need to reassess whether president elect trump is a legitimate president. The election is over, hes the president. We need to move forward. But to move forward we have to have a real investigation of what happened here. Bipartisan independent serious investigation. With all due respect to my colleagues at the white house, a review within the Obama Administration in 20 or 30 days, thats not enough. We need to know the facts so that we can prepare for 2020, so we can have a free and Fair Election in 2020. I think theres a lot more to be learned here. Listen, michael mcfaul, thank you for talking to me. I know it changed a little bit as you were sitting there. I appreciate your perspective and very happy we had you this afternoon. Thank you. Drama building in baltimore, the annual armynavy game. President elect donald trump is expected to arrive. Hang with us. Ways wins. Especially in my business. With slow internet from the phone company, you cant keep up. Youre stuck, watching spinning wheels and progress bars until someone else scoops your story. Switch to comcast business. With highspeed internet up to 10 gigabits per second. You wouldnt pick a slow race car. Then why settle for slow internet . Comcast business. Built for speed. Built for business. Breaking news chief nbc news correspondent dra mitchell is Andrea Mitchell is reporting rex ti tillerson is president elect Donald Trumps choice for secretary of state. Casey is in boston for donald trump going to the New York Times<\/a> and post reports on russia intervening in the president ial election. Rnc Communications Director<\/a> sean spicer this morning adamantly denying the rnc had been hacked. We were going to offer the New York Times<\/a> inside access to know what happened. We were willing to offer them proof. They chose not engage in that conversation. Not us. The intelligence agencies were working with tell us with certainty we havent been hacked. We said it before and tried to work with these Media Outlets<\/a> to explain that and show them. Outgoing Senate Minority<\/a> leader harry reid where he th k thinks the fight will go next. Heres what he told my colleague this morning. I believe Lindsey Graham<\/a> is a voice of concern. A good lawyer and i think he should get involved and doing that i think he will bring in republican moderates. There arent many. This is really important. Meanwhile, Rudy Guiliani<\/a> is fueling further speculation over who the president elect will choose for secretary of state. Heres what he said this morning about taking his name out of the race. He also had a message for one of the top contenders. I knew he had good choices. If i thought he didnt have a great choice and needed only me which was probably always true they only needed you, if i thought that id do it in a minute. If mitt romney, i voted for him and supported him and thought he would be a better president than barack obama. I do think as huckabee does he should apologize and the comm t comments he made when i was campaigning for my friend, donald trump. And we have news on secretary of state. Lets go to Andrea Mitchell<\/a> on breaking details. This is about the secretary of state pick. What are we learning . What ive learned from two sources close to the transition, it will be rex tillerman barring an unforeseen problem. He is to be the new nominee for secretary of state and very likely would be paired with an experienced and sometimes controversial diplomat, john bolton, the former u. N. Ambassador who would be the deputy secretary of state in this unusual pairing of corporate ceo from exxonmobil who has no experience in dropsy, spent his entire career in the increasing spector but in fact has wide Global Experience<\/a> and could be controversial because of his close relationship with Vladimir Putin<\/a>. They had a long standing relationship and one of their biggest deals was a victim of the ukraine sanctions imposed by the Obama Administration<\/a>, canceling 5 500 billion deal between exxonmobil and russia in the arctics. Ents ing you just mentioned that. You know how we prep on the show, the next couple of hours that was a topic we were going to talk about, his connections with russia and going to ask journalists we were talking to if maybe that would dissuade trump from making that decision and clearly it didnt. Reporter this decision, as i understand it, was made in the last couple of days, as the appropriate people in the corporate world were notified of mr. Tiller sons likely appoint and all before the breaking news about the russia investigation on the intelligence side. You saw the strong pubback unusual and unprecedented from the Transition Team<\/a> from the president elect against the cias analysis as it was being reported today, last night and this morning. I do not think that would derail what i have been told is a pe pending nomination of the nominee to be secretary of state. One of the big signals leading to this, of course, is the fact that Rudy Guiliani<\/a> was no longer in contention and it is narrowed down. Theres always the fallback the possibility that senator corker might be the fallback position. I was told in fact it is going to be rex tiller son. We saw the way president elect trump brought up tillersons name himself during his interview a couple days ago with matt lauer on the today show. He brought up the name. There have been a lot of signals the last couple of days and why weve been working our sources. With that said, how would you describe the buzz behind the sce scenes . Obviously there will be critis. S is this someone the other side feels like they can work with. I was reading an article this morning and people complaining this whole decision of secretary of state seemed like a reality show and we had mitt romney in front of the cameras and so much hoop law about it and now we have a decision. Can you put it in perspective for us . Reporter there was a lot of pushback as you saw first of all on meet the press, saying there was a lot of anger among the base, among Trump Supporters<\/a> against mitt romneys selection because of the really Strong Language<\/a> that he has used in his criticisms of donald trump during the campaign. That said, donald trump praised mitt romney, said their dinner went well, said they had a real connection. Mitt romney was also going to be a controversial choice for the base. Rex tillerson is more of a corporate ceo type who has great Global Experience<\/a>. You can see where he would be a fit with donald trump, where they would connect. Certainly, its going to be controversial among some crit critics, certainly critics of the increasing policy because he had a lot of other things going on, recently reporting of the Washington Post<\/a> there was a very specific and unusual questionnaire by the trump energy Transition Team<\/a> to top officials in the department of energy to try to nail down who among senior officials, among the Civil Servants<\/a> in the Energy Department<\/a> had been involved in any of the negotiations for the paris Climate Change<\/a> accord or other Big Decisions<\/a> in energy, really delving into what scientists were deciding and discussing in their professional roles under the Obama Administration<\/a>. That is unprecedented in my experience. There will be a lot of controversy over Energy Policy<\/a> alone. To choose someone from the Worlds Biggest Oil<\/a> company to be secretary of state nominee will raise issues. There are so many other questions before this Senate Confirming<\/a> these choices, the Foreign Relations<\/a> committee will be headed by bob corker and if this goes through and announced this week is passed over for this job and hes in charge of the hearings of the republicanled senate. With that said, there is a caveat here, how final is this . Reporter nothing is final until a nominee is announced. Im saying sources are telling me close to the transition this is going to happen. Ive also been led to believe that the appropriate steps are being taken by exxonmobil, which is a major step for the Corporate Board<\/a> to take, theyre expecting their ceo to be nominated. I will throw you a ball here and i hope it makes sense. You have so much experience here, i think the challenge is when you have breaking news like this, there are a lot of people who watch our programming and theyre in the weeds, in the ins and outs and tell you about Ceo Rex Tillerson<\/a> and tell you why he would be a great secretary of state or wouldnt be. A lot of people want to hear breaking news and come to us and turn on nbc and thmsnbc and the filter. It depends on the filter what type of reaction you get, as best you can for people tuning into this news and people just finding out about rex tiller son, whats your take what he would bring to this role . Reporter its really hard to say. We dont know as much about him as we would know as someone who has come up through the role of diplomacy or Public Policy<\/a> mitt romney, lets say. This is someone who is coming from the outside, bringing a great deal of Global Experience<\/a> as perhaps the worlds leading executive in the increasing field but someone who would be controversial with a lot of critics of Donald Trumps<\/a> Energy Policy<\/a>. As any would tell you, elections have consequences. We have seen this in the nominee for epa and the nominee for what youre going to see in a number of these other in other ar areas. Senator sessions, for instance, is very controversial among many people but he is more likely to be approved because he comes from the senate. If they wanted an easy confirmation, bob corker would have glided through most likely. These things are unpredictable. Way back i covered a senators nomination in 1989 by president bush 41 to be the defense secretary. At one of his early nominations over chairman of the armed sieveses committee and it went completely off the rails and we ended up with dick cheney as defense secretary. These things are really hard to predict. What is the issue that will come up and came up for the number of attorney general nominees for bill clinton back in 1993 . You ended up with a complete man with two nominees having to prove themselves and pull back and finally the third one nominated as attorney general. I would caution you dont know which of these nominations is going to be tricky and the democrats have to make their choices. How many will they try to challenge and confront . They will be aggressive in their questioning but how many will they try to derail . The epa may be one and labor may be another. Those are so controversial. The secretary of state may be one where they decide to take a pass. Nbc chief Foreign Affairs<\/a> correspondent, Andrea Mitchell<\/a>, thank you for joining us for this breaking news for the president elects choice of secretary of state. Thank you. Reporter you bet. Lets bring in our contributor, michael, also former ambassador to russia. Are you comfortable with this pick . No, not really, to be honest. I want to look more closely at it. Its breaking news. I thought we were going to talk about russian hacking and now to Rex Tillerson<\/a>. Welcome to the news. Yes. Let me say a few things. The main reason i am uncomfortable is that the secretary of state is a multidimensional policy job. Its not just an energy job. You have to deal with the military issues, you have to deal with diplomacy about trade issues, you have to deal on a myriad of issues, human rights, for instance, whereas the increasing sector, ive dealt with the Energy Sector<\/a> in the government very close toly, theyre one dimensional. Thats the first thing that troubles me. The second thing more deeper about, exxonmobil, of course, has a major pending deal with the russian oil company. Vp, several times, has called it the most important issue in u. S. Russian relation is in deca decades. When i was in the government, i want to be clear, i supported that deal. I thought that was an important joint venture between these two companies, but it was suspended rightly because of russias intervention in ukraine. What i worry about here we will lift sanctions and forget about crimea and forget about these military intervention in ukraine for the sake of an oil deal. Thats not good Foreign Policy<\/a> in my view. You make good points but is it enough to fight, if you will, you were hearing Andrea Mitchell<\/a> talk about they have secretary of labor or epa, so many choices to fight or accept. Is this one worth it to you to push a little bit and say no . I would want the process of confirmation 0 be thorough and comprehensive. It was for me. I had several republican sena r senators put holds on me about policy issues. I would hope there is a thorough scrub to make sure theres not a conflict of interest and that this person is the best qualified person for the job. Whether they seek to block it or not, thats a political matter above my pay grade. Can you talk about the importance of his role as secretary of state and on the other side as chairman and ceo of a Large Company<\/a> he can use the skillset to be effective in this role. Yes. I think thats fair and should be noted. Obviously, if youre the ceo of exxonmobil youre dealing with headin ings of states and Prime Minister<\/a> s all over the world. They are a global company. With respect to russia, rex t l tillerson is one of the few nongovernment americans that sees putin regularly, so hes not going to be starting from scratch in that relationship with president putin. Literally, theres only two or three people i can name, tiller son, maybe Henry Kissinger<\/a> that have that advantage. I suspect if he has those relationships in russia he has them all over the world as well. Does the u. S. Need this ventures into what we were going to talk about anyway, does the u. S. Need better relations with russia . Id frame it differently. To say we need better relations with russia makes better relations with russia the objective of Foreign Policy<\/a>, right . The means to that are things like lifting sanctions recogn e recognizing crimea. I want to flip it around exactly. I want to say what are American National<\/a> security interests and economic interests with respect to russia. And then the means for achieving them are relationships with putin. Having a Good Relationship<\/a> with russia is meaningless unless it advances our national interests. Put this in perspective for me. I dont know if you heard me asking Andrea Mitchell<\/a> earlier this morning, the challenge in these days and times, things are so polarized, people turn on the news, they dont know whether theyre getting a filter, accurate information, balanced, fair, to the best of your ability, how should we react to this choice . Also talk about the fact there has been so much buzz, you know, about president elect trump and his connections with putin and some of his choices and whether they have connections, put this in perspective here whether people should be concerned. With respect to your first question we all need to dig into his history, into his background and look very closely whether hes qualified or not. This is one of the most important jobs in the u. S. Government. We all need to do that. Right now. In an objective way and look at it as you and i were doing a few minutes ago. Theres plus side and up side to appointing an official like this. With respect to russia, you know, im sure the kremlin is very happy about this choice, this is somebody they know well. He wants to do business with russia. They were against the sanctions. They are doing business by the way with an oil company that seized a lot of its assets in a way that many people think were illegal. So, you know, for them, a guy like tillerson is going to put that behind them. Theyre not going to question that previous history. Thats the kind of history we all need to look at very closely. A lot to dig in. Before you leave me, i want to ask you about the cia, about the fallout, new revelations that russia influenced the election to favor donald trump. The Washington Post<\/a> reporting Russian Hackers<\/a> intervened to help donald trump win. Are you surprised there isnt more outrage over this. Senator john cornyn tweeted this morning while serious, this isnt news, he says, this is something thats been going on covertly for a long time. Whats your take . Ive been following this a long time during the campaign, i talked about it and wrote about it on other shows on msnbc. Im not surprised. I think it was very obvious the russians preferred donald trump to secretary clinton. By the way the conversation were having about Rex Tillerson<\/a> reaffirms that was a good bet in terms of their strategy. They stole data and transferred that data to wikileaks. Thats the news for me over the last 24 hours our Intelligence Community<\/a> is now saying they have evidence of that transfer. We didnt know that. We were guessing before about that. What it says to me, not whether we need to reassess whether president elect trump is a legitimate president. The election is over, hes the president. We need to move forward. But to move forward we have to have a real investigation of what happened here. Bipartisan independent serious investigation. With all due respect to my colleagues at the white house, a review within the Obama Administration<\/a> in 20 or 30 days, thats not enough. We need to know the facts so that we can prepare for 2020, so we can have a free and Fair Election<\/a> in 2020. I think theres a lot more to be learned here. Listen, michael mcfaul, thank you for talking to me. I know it changed a little bit as you were sitting there. I appreciate your perspective and very happy we had you this afternoon. Thank you. Drama building in baltimore, the annual armynavy game. President elect donald trump is expected to arrive. Hang with us. Ways wins. Especially in my business. With slow internet from the phone company, you cant keep up. Youre stuck, watching spinning wheels and progress bars until someone else scoops your story. Switch to comcast business. With highspeed internet up to 10 gigabits per second. You wouldnt pick a slow race car. Then why settle for slow internet . Comcast business. Built for speed. Built for business. Breaking news chief nbc news correspondent dra mitchell is Andrea Mitchell<\/a> is reporting rex ti tillerson is president elect Donald Trumps<\/a> choice for secretary of state. Casey is in boston for donald trump going to the Football Game<\/a> in baltimore. Do you think donald trump will talk about it . Reporter we will see. Donald trump is on his way to baltimore were expecting this afternoon. Kickoff is at 3 00 this afternoon. Army versus navy, a storied tradition. Donald trump will spend time with members of both branches of the Service Although<\/a> he wont do a formal switch from one side to the other reserved for signature preside president s, still the president elect. All the focus for this president on russian hacking and the Trumps Campaign<\/a> aggressive response to it last night saying they, these, this Intelligence Community<\/a> are the same people who said there were weapons of mass destruction on in iraq. We do know we will hear from trump himself on Fox News Sunday<\/a> tomorrow morning and we also know he will talk to the cnbc sports anchors midway through this game, around halftime. We will keep an eye on that and keep you updated. Already intense criticism and calls for investigation from democrats, notably, harry reid, the outgoing democratic minority leader in the senate. He says fbi director, james comey, knew about what was in the cia assessment as the election was ongoing an he withheld it from the public. Take a look what he had to say to joy reed earlier today. I did not believe that comey was the new j. Edgar hoover. I thought that he would do the right thing for the country. Comey, who is a republican, refused to divulge this information regarding russia and the president ial election. Do you believe jim comey should resign, senator reid . Of course, yes. Its important to point out comey was appointed by president obama who is a democrat. Tough words from reid and jim schumer the Incoming Democratic<\/a> leader in the senate says the wants to go into bipartisan investigations into russian h k hacking. I talked to Lindsey Graham<\/a> he and john mccain, also a republican are working into investigations into russia and said he wants personal sanctions on Vladimir Putin<\/a> and his personal circle if the evidence stacks up against him. I dont want to speculate but youve been covering this campaign and a while. There are critic who say there is a timing and strategy rele e releasing this pick here. In the midst of all this news with the russian hacking, do you think theres anything to that speculation hes trying to change the topic of conversation although interesting enough we are still talking about the ties to russia with his picks. Reporter donald trump has shown himself at being very adept at turning the conversation where he wants and issues he wants to be focused on. We have not seen trump himself so far today focused on this hacking issue. His tweets have been focused on the apprentice and his remaining executive producer credit there. I apologize. There seems to be a train going by the army any navy stadium, and i apologize if youre having trouble hearing me. Rex tillerson is expected to be the pick for the secretary of state. Its possible thats part of it. Interesting conversation for saturday afternoon. Thank you for checking in with me. Reporter thanks. More now on that russian hacking report. Joining me now, greg miller, National Security<\/a> correspondent for the Washington Post<\/a>, thank you for talking to me this afternoon. Sure. Lets talk about russias intervening in the election. First, your reaction to sean spicer pushing back on reporting lumped in with his criticism of the New York Times<\/a>. Im not sure hes pushing back on our reporting, i think he aes aiming that specificallt the New York Times<\/a>. We explored that issue that the rnc had also been hack and we got conflicting information on that. We were in contact with the rnc and the vigorously disputed that. Weve also heard from a number of u. S. Officials who said there was clearly some probing, some effort j some hacking increasing aimed at the rnc. What aes less clear is whether they were able to extricate any materials. That is something get to be resolved. Viewers will be interested to hear your take. Can you walk us through a bit how you and your colleagues went about reporting this story . This has been an intense subject for quite a long time now. We spent many of my colleagues at the post and i spent a lot of time over the many months of the election trying to examine trumps relationship with russia and trying to examine russias interest in this election and what it was doing about it. There was widely held position when the hacked email showed up at wikileaks there was a russian role in that and it didnt take long for that to become the prevailing suspicion in theory. Now were starting to piece together actual evidence that draws connections that makes it much more clear what russia was doing and what its intentions were. Thank you. National security correspondent for the Washington Post<\/a>. Thank you for what has been a very busy news day. And trumps choice for epa, why some environmentalists say hes no friend to mother earth. We had a big election. Are you taking a victory lap . No. With some interest, i read your tweets about the election 140 years ago. Was that a relative of yours . He was in the United States<\/a> way before my ancestors were. You had a republican . My grandfather, boy, he was all the way. Breaking msnbc news, dran mitchell reporting Rex Tillerson<\/a> is trumps choice for secretary of state. Lets join with milwaukee. I tell you what we have news thrown in our lap. Its coming fast and furious, isnt it . Give me your fist reaction to this choice. My first reaction to this choice how amazing it is you have one of the ceos of one of the largest Multinational Corporation<\/a> added to the trump cabinet of billionaires and millionaires and number two, someone this close to Vladimir Putin<\/a> named to this position, somebody actually awarded the order of friendship by the kremlin. That is an extraordinary choice and comes within hours of the breaking news story youve been talking about, the role of russian intelligence in hacking this u. S. Election. I think there will be a lot of questions about this. I dont think it changes this subject. I think it probably weaponizes it a little bit. Could you hear my conversation with casey. I was asking her about it this morning. I host the today show on the mornings and weekends and he was tweeting about the apprentice. A lot of people feel theres a strategy and the media were going to make a left turn and talk about something else. Do you think that is behind this decision. Were still talking, if anything, even more about the issues with russian intelligence . I agree with you on all of this. This story about the possibility the russians were trying to influence an American Election<\/a> is a very very big story. It is not going to go away any time soon. You could argue. The reaction ought to be bipartisan. Democrats and republicans should be pushing to get to the bottom of this. This could be one of the biggest stories of the 2016 election. To follow this up with somebody this closely intimately connected with vp i dont think changes the subject in any way whatsoever. Interesting were hearing trump did indeed meet with ti tillerson this morning. Give me your take on this. Sitti ting in this seat where i right now we talked so long about Rudy Guiliani<\/a> guiliani and mitt romney and he was met with such resistance, do you think that played any part in his decision or was it just for show . Whats your take . I cant possibly get into whats going on inside the mind of the president elect. I dont think im alone in all of that. I was encouraged when he was talking to mitt romney. That maybe it was an indication he would make this long rumored pivot to be more president ial and he would be broadening the scope. I was relieved he wasnt going to nominate somebody as erratic as Rudy Guiliani<\/a>. Ill be honest, this is a very surprising choice, somebody very much outside the Diplomatic Community<\/a> and somebody whos frankly going to be bringing a great deal of baggage into this position. I think its fascinating these reports hell be paired with john bolton. John bolton is very aggressive and very very outspoken. It will be interesting to see how that particular marriage will work. I will move on quickly, im picturing double box, as we sane the news business, with a picture of mitt romney and Rex Tillerson<\/a>, theyre just so different, im baffled. It is. We will find out, i suppose, over the next couple of weeks, what attracted donald trump to this particular choice. Obviously, this is the choice that would be most favored by the kremlin, by cell phovladimi and famously, mitt romney said the biggest geopolitical threat we faced was russia and vindicated for having said that. You couldnt have two more different views of the world. Now, i think the senate will have to go in a very detailed way and unravel all the possible conflicts in an administration that is rife with these conflicts. I have to ask you about this fake news everywhere. The article you wrote for politico magazine, you wrote, you think the truth took a hit last year, its about to get worse, a lot worse. Kind of scary, how so . It is. Its not just that theres fake news. Its the fact we have created these alternative realty silos, these media universes not just echo chambers but create their own set of facts and arguments. I think you have an administration that may feel it is insulated from the normal practices of journalism because they know their followers will stay in that echo chamber and bubble and they will shoot down criticism and the scandals wont penetrate and he can count on these media flying monkeys to protect him any time there is a controversy. Obviously, there are alternative realities on the left as well as the right. I think were in a dramatically new media political reality and im sorry to say it will get worse. Even with Rex Tillerson<\/a>, with Andrea Mitchell<\/a> and we respect andrea. If youre sitting at home and you want to know the truth so to speak, sometimes its hard to know what that is. Great conversation. Thank you for talking with me this afternoon. Trump and pruitt will make america gasp again talking about the president elects choice for the epa. What makes tom pruitt so objecti objectionable . Thats next. Mr. Garner, are you related to jennifer . 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Transition forces have confirmed donald trump met with rex tiller son at the trump tower today and heard from sources close to the team that Rex Tillerson<\/a> is indeed the choice for secretary of state. The news caps off a week of cabinet picks including oklahoma general scott pruitt. You recently wrote this pick is basically going to bring a face jo between the two sides of the kilometer divide. How so . Well, scott pruitt has been suing the Environmental Protection<\/a> agency hes been called to lead regularly over the past several years and several of those are over the issue of Climate Change<\/a>. They sued over the obama plan to cut power plants and the epa over methane, another powerful greenhouse gas. In effect the confirmation b battle over pruitt could get into the science of Climate Change<\/a> and whether people believe it or not. Lets look at his record for the agency he has been chosen to lead. The Climate Change<\/a> and Clean Power Plan<\/a> and over eight others challenged the epas authority and on his linked in page he describes himself against the epa activist agenda. Will he face a fight from environmental groups if confirmed . I think the environmental groups do not like this appointment and Democratic Senators<\/a> on their side said they will fight as hard as they can. Its not clear where that leads. If every republican wants to confirm him j democrats cant really stop that. One thing theyre pointing out, pruitt has expressed scepticism about Climate Change<\/a> and hasnt gotten into elaborate arguments where they are denying what scientists know and say this is a debate and scientists know it and not actually quite campaign trail, donald trump has been vocal about slashing the epa. Are there initiatives that could be overhauled . I think theyll try to overhaul a lot of them. 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Whenever we have this story with the cis believing russia was trying to influence the election and with the appointment of a man who has received an honor from Vladimir Putin<\/a>, not that automatically is disqualifying but certainly i think that will add to the pushback that mr. Tillerson is likely to receive. I was just about to ask you. Give me the buzz on the hill. Are these going to be ugly confirmation hearings . I think the democrats have to oppose a lot of these nominees and not just because theyre sincerely opposed but because the liberal base demands that of them. Having said that, the democrats dont really have the numbers for the most part. They would need to peel off some republicans to join them in opposition to these nominees. So far, that appears fairly unlikely to happen, but of course we cant rule anything out in this climate. I want to get back to reports on russia intervening in our electoral system. The president elect sent out a few tweets this morning having really nothing to do with these reports, nor have we heard from him directly about this through a paper statement or yesterdays rallies. So how should we be reading into his reaction as well as his teams . I think that one will be looking to see if he tries to tweet on more subjects again. The accusation from critics has always been he uses twitter sometimes to distract from stories that arent favorable to him. You mentioned his apprentice tweets early on. Im not sure if those are part of the strategy or generally really worked up about people accusing him of shadeiness with the apprentice. The owners of the pizzeria are Holding Support<\/a> for its donors, we have people in trumps future administration are promoting some of the fake news stories. You know, this whole story of fake news is a huge issue. I think part of it is to do with the erosion of the credibility of the mainstream media, but its also frankly to do with the fact that we have difficult distinguishing between different kinds of sources. Niall, i have to leave it there. Thank you for checking in with me today. Thanks. At the top of the hour, more on Rex Tillerson<\/a>, getting the nod as Donald Trumps<\/a> choice for secretary of state. Nbcs chief Foreign Affairs<\/a> correspondent Andrea Mitchell<\/a> broke the news first within the past hour. She rejoins us in a moment to explain why trump chose the exxon mobil ceo. Y when growth presents itself . American express open cards can help you take on a new job, or fill a big order or expand your office and take on whatever comes next. Find out how American Express<\/a> cards and services can help prepare you for growth at open. Com. 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